[gentoo-user] what's going on with updates ?

2010-09-12 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Since few days ( two or three ?), every time I launch emerge, it's saying me it needs an update of portage itself. In plus, I have upgraded udev at least two times (160>161>162 today)... Plus, I have had two warning message concerning updates : sudo and an other... what's going on ? Is somebody

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge - pointing to local file

2010-09-12 Thread Joseph
On 09/13/10 01:09, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 09/13/2010 12:41 AM, Joseph wrote: Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to local source file? I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7 but it does not seems to exist on any mirror (I have in may make.conf), I found aste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Al wrote: > Hope you have the power to go that way far enough on your own until it > becomes interesting for more people. Well, let's see where it goes. I'll continue my work and it seems that soon a few others might jump in. > I did good progress with Gentoo on Cygwin this WE. 3 big packages

Re: [gentoo-user] automatically updated certain packages

2010-09-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 23:13:28 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > The script has a list of packages which should be updated > completely automatically, but *only* if they're pulled in as > dependency (beginning from world), and others not in that list > should *not* be updated. Would piping emerge -pu

Re: [gentoo-user] automatically updated certain packages

2010-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:13 on Sunday 12 September 2010, Enrico Weigelt did opine thusly: > Hi folks, > > > I've got a tricky task for automatic update script, which requires > some portage magic ... > > The script has a list of packages which should be updated > completely automatic

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge - pointing to local file

2010-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:09 on Monday 13 September 2010, Nikos Chantziaras did opine thusly: > On 09/13/2010 12:41 AM, Joseph wrote: > > Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to > > local source file? > > I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7 > > but it d

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-12 Thread Al
> > Just let the project grow. It does not require anyone jumping into > it to stick with it for long time. All I'm proposing right now is > adopt the model, which makes collaboration w/ other distros easier. > It's something like an aggreement as FHS. Hope you have the power to go that way far en

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Andrea Conti wrote: > More importantly, code which is intended to be used in shared objects > must be compiled with specific options as position-independent code, > whereas code in an archive needs not. Not necessarily. But it can't be shared at runtime anymore, since the dynamic loader has to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Shared libraries in Gentoo

2010-09-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Al wrote: > >> What is your strategia to build up a community? > > > > Actually, I don't really have any. All I can do is offering it > > as OSS and do a little bit advocacy here and there - I don't > > have the resources to build up real community structures all > > alone. Of course, anybody's

[gentoo-user] automatically updated certain packages

2010-09-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I've got a tricky task for automatic update script, which requires some portage magic ... The script has a list of packages which should be updated completely automatically, but *only* if they're pulled in as dependency (beginning from world), and others not in that list should *not*

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge - pointing to local file

2010-09-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/13/2010 12:41 AM, Joseph wrote: Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to local source file? I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7 but it does not seems to exist on any mirror (I have in may make.conf), I found asterisk-addons-1.4.7.tar.gz file but I need to p

[gentoo-user] emerge - pointing to local file

2010-09-12 Thread Joseph
Can someone refresh my memory how to emerge application pointing to local source file? I need to re-emerge: asterisk-addons-1.4.7 but it does not seems to exist on any mirror (I have in may make.conf), I found asterisk-addons-1.4.7.tar.gz file but I need to point emerge to local file instead.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-12 Thread Al
> > What I am saying is that there is no way to dynamically load code from a > .a file, at least not with the system tools, period. > O.K. so we have to stress the term archive in your statement. Al

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device SOLVED

2010-09-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > But that silly k3b returns > > No optical drive found. > > K3b did not find any optical device in your system. > > Solution : Make sure HAL daemon is running, it is used by K3b for finding > > devices. > > and on the terminal > > Finally solved, a matter of per

Re: [gentoo-user] copying /var&lib/world(32bitroot) -> 64bitroot ???

2010-09-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:27 on Sunday 12 September 2010, meino.cra...@gmx.de did opine thusly: > Hi, > > Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file > from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world" > then, when logged into my 64bit system to

Re: [gentoo-user] copying /var&lib/world(32bitroot) -> 64bitroot ???

2010-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
Mark Knecht [10-09-12 19:48]: > On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:27 AM, wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file > > from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world" > > then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same s

Re: [gentoo-user] copying /var&lib/world(32bitroot) -> 64bitroot ???

2010-09-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 10:27 AM, wrote: > > Hi, > > Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file > from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world" > then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same stuff ??? > > best regards, > mcc > It's OK t

Re: [gentoo-user] copying /var&lib/world(32bitroot) -> 64bitroot ???

2010-09-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday 12 September 2010 19:27:10 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file > from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world" > then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same stuff ??? > > best regard

[gentoo-user] copying /var&lib/world(32bitroot) -> 64bitroot ???

2010-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, Do I shoot into my own feet when copying the /var/lib/world-file from my 32bit system to my 64bit system and doing a "emerge -e world" then, when logged into my 64bit system to install the same stuff ??? best regards, mcc

[gentoo-user] Re: sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-12 Thread walt
On 09/11/2010 01:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: The root user (sometimes portage) creates /usr/src/linux-* Someone tell me again exactly how user alan is supposed to build those sources? From the kernel README: To configure and build the kernel use: cd /usr/src/linux-2.6.N make O=/home

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-12 Thread Andrea Conti
> So why shouldn't you be able to load an unshared lib (without PIC) > dynamically? Sure there still would be some additional steps. I am not talking specifically about PIC/non-PIC code here. PIC is relevant because when you're doing dynamic loading you generally cannot predict at what (virtual) a

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-12 Thread Al
>> This was actually a potential risk once upon a time: > > Sorry to drift from the topic, but would somebody please explain to me > what a potential risk is? How does it differ from a risk? A risk is always potential. A potential risk is when you are not sure if it is a risk at all. Al

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device SOLVED

2010-09-12 Thread Mick
On Sunday 12 September 2010 17:27:36 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr: > > Selon Mick : > > > On Saturday 11 September 2010 17:01:29 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > > Selon Stéphane Guedon : > > > > > Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-12 Thread Bill Longman
> I agree there's no point in using sudo, but what's the problem? You > don't need to edit the kernel sources merely to build a new kernel. You > can build your kernel outside the tree using for example: > make O=/home/user/kernel/tree/ menuconfig > make O=/home/user/kernel/tree/ > > This is how I

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd missing in stage3 of AMD64...?

2010-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
J. Roeleveld [10-09-12 18:25]: > On Sunday 12 September 2010 16:26:23 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Hi, > > > > currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system. > > > > I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system. > > There was a net-connection without any problems (using DS

Re: [gentoo-user] undetected DVD r/w device SOLVED

2010-09-12 Thread alain . didierjean
Selon alain.didierj...@free.fr: > Selon Mick : > > > On Saturday 11 September 2010 17:01:29 alain.didierj...@free.fr wrote: > > > Selon Stéphane Guedon : > > > > Le Monday 06 September 2010 17:11:17, alain.didierj...@free.fr a écrit > : > > > > > Selon Stroller : > > > > > > On 6 Sep 2010, at 09:

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd missing in stage3 of AMD64...?

2010-09-12 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 16:26 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system. > There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp). > > After several steps I chrooted into the new environment and ... > no net anymore. eth0 was up (ifconfi

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd missing in stage3 of AMD64...?

2010-09-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Sunday 12 September 2010 16:26:23 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system. > > I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system. > There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp). > > After several steps I chroot

Re: [gentoo-user] dhcpd missing in stage3 of AMD64...?

2010-09-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM, wrote: > > Hi, > > currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system. > > I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system. > There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp). > > After several steps I chrooted into the new environ

[gentoo-user] dhcpd missing in stage3 of AMD64...?

2010-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, currently I am on the way to install a AMD64 root system. I use the AMD64 gentoo iso to boot into a 64bit system. There was a net-connection without any problems (using DSL and dhcp). After several steps I chrooted into the new environment and ... no net anymore. eth0 was up (ifconfig) but

Re: [gentoo-user] Up-/Down-grade of KDE

2010-09-12 Thread Graham Murray
Dan Johansson writes: > On Sunday 12 September 2010 12.11:14 Dan Johansson wrote: >> Yesterday my ~x86 Gentoo box got KDE upgraded to 4.5.1 and today portage >> want to downgrade it again to 4.4.5 and I can not figure out why. >> >> My "emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving / around...

2010-09-12 Thread Alex Schuster
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: > I also cannot evaluate the real impact the position of the /-partition > on the harddisk has on system performance. I read about it years ago > and since than I always put the partitions always in the sequence of > "boot","swap","root","home" onto the harddisks. May b

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-12 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:16:31 +0100 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 12 September 2010 00:15:34 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > > But since you're not convinced, now it would be nice, for my own > > education, and perhaps someone else's, that you elaborated a bit > > more. What exactly do you find non

Re: [gentoo-user] Up-/Down-grade of KDE

2010-09-12 Thread Dan Johansson
On Sunday 12 September 2010 12.11:14 Dan Johansson wrote: > Yesterday my ~x86 Gentoo box got KDE upgraded to 4.5.1 and today portage > want to downgrade it again to 4.4.5 and I can not figure out why. > > My "emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use world > --pretend" gives a lot o

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-12 Thread Al
> You can't link dynamically against a library archive, so all DL code on Don't you contradict http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/introduction.html with this? Practically you never do. But could, if you really wanted? AFAIK you need PIC only to share libs in memory. The rest is already

[gentoo-user] Up-/Down-grade of KDE

2010-09-12 Thread Dan Johansson
Yesterday my ~x86 Gentoo box got KDE upgraded to 4.5.1 and today portage want to downgrade it again to 4.4.5 and I can not figure out why. My "emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use world --pretend" gives a lot of output for KDE-components like this:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 12 September 2010 00:15:34 Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > But since you're not convinced, now it would be nice, for my own > education, and perhaps someone else's, that you elaborated a bit > more. What exactly do you find non convincing in that usage of the > adjective? How would you express th

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: undetected DVD r/w device

2010-09-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 12 September 2010 01:15:56 walt wrote: > On 09/11/2010 11:24 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday 11 September 2010 18:50:04 Mick wrote: > >> Deselect that which is deprecated and will be removed soon > > > > I hope it won't. I have one box whose drives the new drivers cannot > > de

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-12 Thread Stéphane Guedon
Le Saturday 11 September 2010 22:52:09, walt a écrit : > On 09/11/2010 02:13 AM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: > > synce few days, I have a message of portage suggestiung me to use the > > "static- libs" USE flag for media-libs/jpeg-6b. > > > > What may be the consequence ? Please be gentle with explaini

[gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 09/11/2010 12:13 PM, Stéphane Guedon wrote: synce few days, I have a message of portage suggestiung me to use the "static- libs" USE flag for media-libs/jpeg-6b. What may be the consequence ? Please be gentle with explaining this sorte of things, as I have not the knowledges to understand the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: static-libs

2010-09-12 Thread Andrea Conti
> "DL libraries aren't really a different kind of library format (both > static and shared libraries can be used as DL libraries);" Library archives (.a) and shared objects (.so) differ in several ways. Roughly speaking: >From a file format perspective, .a files are simple collections (man ar) of

Re: [gentoo-user] sudo in kernel config ?

2010-09-12 Thread Gregory Shearman
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: > > Some people, such as myself, use kernel sources outside of portage (I > follow a git repo) and do so as a non-root user. In this case the > kernel tree is not owned by root and the config/compile is easily done > as a non-root user. > > If you are super-paranoi