Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 01:40:09 Dale wrote: You got a crystal ball or something? Not yet, my supplier is still awaiting new stock from the manufacturer... -- Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 07:12:48 Jake Moe wrote: If you're talking about proper Audio-CD as one that's audio-only, no mixed data in there as well, then yes, I'm sure. And I have over 500 CDs; I can't test them all. :-P But yeah, a selection of CDs have all had the same result. And

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:59:19 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: There's nothing gratuitous about it. It's perfectly suited for the purpose, in this particular case. No it is not: there's no need for it. it adds nothing useful, and it makes one wince. The sense would not have been changed by

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:49:52 -0600, Dale wrote: What can change? We are stuck with a hardware spec from 30 years ago for booting. That won't change any time soon. File systems for one. They do make new ones every once in a while. ' That's the one area ion which GRUB may need an

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 12/01/2011 22:48, Stroller a écrit : On 12/1/2011, at 6:14pm, Jacques Montier wrote: ... after chroot, i can install every package except grub in /boot. I get the message : your boot partition, detected as being mounted as /boot, is read-only. Remounting it in read-write mode ... Then

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Dale
Jacques Montier wrote: What i did this morning : - boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom. I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so : - mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo - mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot - mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/usr - mount /dev/sda8 /mnt/gentoo/home - mount -t proc proc

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 10:59, Dale a écrit : Jacques Montier wrote: What i did this morning : - boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom. I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so : - mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo - mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot - mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/gentoo/usr - mount /dev/sda8

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Jake Moe
On 01/13/11 18:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 13 January 2011 07:12:48 Jake Moe wrote: If you're talking about proper Audio-CD as one that's audio-only, no mixed data in there as well, then yes, I'm sure. And I have over 500 CDs; I can't test them all. :-P But yeah, a selection of CDs

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Dale
Jacques Montier wrote: Le 13/01/2011 10:59, Dale a écrit : Jacques Montier wrote: What i did this morning : - boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom. I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so : - mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo - mount /dev/sda3 /mnt/gentoo/boot - mount /dev/sda7

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 11:33:09 Jake Moe wrote: On 01/13/11 18:12, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday 13 January 2011 07:12:48 Jake Moe wrote: If you're talking about proper Audio-CD as one that's audio-only, no mixed data in there as well, then yes, I'm sure. And I have over 500 CDs;

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 11:36, Dale a écrit : Jacques Montier wrote: Le 13/01/2011 10:59, Dale a écrit : Jacques Montier wrote: What i did this morning : - boot from a sysrescuecd cdrom. I have 4 partitions for boot, /, usr and home, so : - mount /dev/sda6 /mnt/gentoo - mount /dev/sda3

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Can you actually play that wav-file? Or is it just a collection of garbage? As far as I know, CD-Paranoia access the cd-drive a bit more directly then other tools. Eg. it approaches it like a CD-ROM, rather then CD-Audio. You are mistaken, cdparanoia

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:07:02 Joerg Schilling wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Can you actually play that wav-file? Or is it just a collection of garbage? As far as I know, CD-Paranoia access the cd-drive a bit more directly then other tools. Eg. it approaches it

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Dale
Jacques Montier wrote: I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition mounted and now it works ! I don't understand... Jacques I wonder if it is a bug or something in the CD you booted? I recently booted systemrescue CD and it worked fine but I didn't try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:07:02 Joerg Schilling wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Can you actually play that wav-file? Or is it just a collection of garbage? As far as I know, CD-Paranoia access the cd-drive a bit more directly then other tools. Eg. it approaches it

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote: Jacques Montier wrote: I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition mounted and now it works ! I don't understand... Jacques I wonder if it is a bug or something in the CD you booted? I recently booted

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: From the FAQ on cdparanoia's website (http://xiph.org/paranoia/faq.html) it looks like that it's not based on cdda2wav, but actually uses a re-write of cdda2wav since January 1998. If this is the case, does it still have inferior quality compared to

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread pk
On 2011-01-13 10:41, Neil Bothwick wrote: No. Hard disks are hard disks, BIOSes are BIOSes. If that changed, the World would fall apart. That's why you can get a kernel panic if you forgot to build your SATA controller's drivers into the kernel, but GRUB quite happily loaded the same kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:07:02 Joerg Schilling wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Can you actually play that wav-file? Or is it just a collection of garbage? As far as I know, CD-Paranoia access the cd-drive a bit more

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 13:37:04 Joerg Schilling wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: From the FAQ on cdparanoia's website (http://xiph.org/paranoia/faq.html) it looks like that it's not based on cdda2wav, but actually uses a re-write of cdda2wav since January 1998. If

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:00:45 +0100, pk wrote: If I remember correctly, grub (legacy) is not compatible with EFI or GPT... That's right, so GRUB's current lifespan will end when we use those methods exclusively. This won't happen soon. I'd be more than happy for GRUB1 to become obsolete if it

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:37:04 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: cdda2wav gives inferior quality compared to cdparanoia and is still actively maintained. Did you really mean to write that? -- Neil Bothwick Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
wick n...@digimed.co.uk: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:37:04 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: cdda2wav gives inferior quality compared to cdparanoia and is still actively maintained. Did you really mean to write that? Probably s/inferior/superior/ -- Daniel Pielmeier

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 13:37:04 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: cdda2wav gives inferior quality compared to cdparanoia and is still actively maintained. Did you really mean to write that? Of course: no, I wanted to write superior ;-) Jörg --

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:25:08 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: cdda2wav gives inferior quality compared to cdparanoia and is still actively maintained. Did you really mean to write that? Of course: no, I wanted to write superior ;-) As a sales pitch, it did seem rather lacking ;-)

Re: [SOLVED]Re: [gentoo-user] vbox 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.

2011-01-13 Thread Bill Longman
On 01/12/2011 07:25 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 01/12/2011 10:57 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP If not BIOS then I'd look at kernel config next. - Mark If it helps here's my 2.6.36-r6 .config. Cheers, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread Mick
On 13 January 2011 13:12, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:00:45 +0100, pk wrote: If I remember correctly, grub (legacy) is not compatible with EFI or GPT... That's right, so GRUB's current lifespan will end when we use those methods exclusively. This won't

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:25:08 +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: cdda2wav gives inferior quality compared to cdparanoia and is still actively maintained. Did you really mean to write that? Of course: no, I wanted to write superior ;-)

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 12:28, J. Roeleveld a écrit : On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote: Jacques Montier wrote: I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition mounted and now it works ! I don't understand... Jacques I wonder if it is a bug or something in the CD

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Mick
On 13 January 2011 16:17, Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr wrote: Le 13/01/2011 12:28, J. Roeleveld a écrit : On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote: Jacques Montier wrote: I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot partition mounted and now it works ! I

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread pk
On 2011-01-13 16:01, Joerg Schilling wrote: Which program does lack what? As I understand it, he refered to what you wrote (i.e. the sales pitch) not to any program... But I'm a bit curious about how cdparanoia and cdda2wav can be inferior/superior at all; they both read the same _digital_

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread pk
On 2011-01-13 14:12, Neil Bothwick wrote: That's right, so GRUB's current lifespan will end when we use those methods exclusively. This won't happen soon. Intel is pushing (U)EFI... http://www.taranfx.com/bios-death-uefi http://www.hardcoreware.net/msi-using-uefi-sandy-bridge/ Best regards

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread Joerg Schilling
pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-01-13 16:01, Joerg Schilling wrote: Which program does lack what? As I understand it, he refered to what you wrote (i.e. the sales pitch) not to any program... But I'm a bit curious about how cdparanoia and cdda2wav can be inferior/superior at all;

Re: [gentoo-user] Web Server Memory Issues

2011-01-13 Thread Stroller
On 12/1/2011, at 10:47pm, Kaddeh wrote: ... First, addressing the SQL issue and why I think that that could be one of the causes. The entire site, for the most part is all in one giant DB (~9GB) a significant part of that is a 3gb table full of raw image data (yes, I know that this is a

Re: [SOLVED]Re: [gentoo-user] vbox 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.

2011-01-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Valmor de Almeida val.gen...@gmail.com wrote: On 01/12/2011 10:57 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP If not BIOS then I'd look at kernel config next. - Mark If it helps here's my 2.6.36-r6

Re: [gentoo-user] grub installation problem

2011-01-13 Thread Jacques Montier
Le 13/01/2011 17:41, Mick a écrit : On 13 January 2011 16:17, Jacques Montier jacques.mont...@numericable.fr wrote: Le 13/01/2011 12:28, J. Roeleveld a écrit : On Thursday 13 January 2011 12:17:24 Dale wrote: Jacques Montier wrote: I re-emerged grub in Gentoo with my separated (sda3) boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Web Server Memory Issues

2011-01-13 Thread Kaddeh
I have a standard 2x RAM swap size of 4gb. The problem that I am seeing though is that the applications (MySQL and apache) are segfaulting -before- the system starts to swap, almost where they have an aversion to using swap. Cheers Kad On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Stroller

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread pk
On 2011-01-13 17:54, Joerg Schilling wrote: cdda2wav nows aabout vendor unique SCSI commands that give better results and it knows about various defects and deviations from the Red book standard. With this knowledge, it is able to extract things typically better and in many cases it is

Re: [SOLVED]Re: [gentoo-user] vbox 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.

2011-01-13 Thread Valmor de Almeida
On 01/13/2011 09:58 AM, Bill Longman wrote: On 01/12/2011 07:25 PM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: On 01/12/2011 10:57 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP If not BIOS then I'd look at kernel config next. - Mark If it helps

Re: [gentoo-user] xen-sources and igb (intel network) driver

2011-01-13 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 01/11/2011 03:09 PM, Konstantinos Agouros wrote: In 1294686017.7979@rumba elw...@agouros.de (Konstantinos Agouros) writes: Hi, I just upgraded my box to a phenom and an intel quad gbit card. The card is a 82575GB. It is recognized (I use xen-sources 2.6.34-r4) and also tried the latest

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday 13 January 2011 19:12:05 pk wrote: On 2011-01-13 17:54, Joerg Schilling wrote: cdda2wav nows aabout vendor unique SCSI commands that give better results and it knows about various defects and deviations from the Red book standard. With this knowledge, it is able to extract

Re: [gentoo-user] A tiny titillating taste of grub2

2011-01-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:00 AM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2011-01-13 10:41, Neil Bothwick wrote: No. Hard disks are hard disks, BIOSes are BIOSes. If that changed, the World would fall apart. That's why you can get a kernel panic if you forgot to build your SATA controller's drivers

Re: [gentoo-user] Web Server Memory Issues

2011-01-13 Thread Bill Longman
On 01/13/2011 09:59 AM, Kaddeh wrote: I have a standard 2x RAM swap size of 4gb. The problem that I am seeing though is that the applications (MySQL and apache) are segfaulting -before- the system starts to swap, almost where they have an aversion to using swap. Are you running 32 bits?

Re: [SOLVED]Re: [gentoo-user] vbox 64-bit guest will fail to detect a 64-bit CPU and will not be able to boot.

2011-01-13 Thread kashani
On 1/13/2011 10:32 AM, Valmor de Almeida wrote: I think I had the CONFIG flags set to Y already. The BIOS change and a shut down before booting was what apparently solved it. I shutdown the laptop and went to bed, the next morning after booting the machine I fired up vbox and all worked. I have

Re: [gentoo-user] Web Server Memory Issues

2011-01-13 Thread kashani
On 1/12/2011 10:59 AM, Kaddeh wrote: So, I have run into an interesting problem while building out a web server for a client which I haven't come across before and I was hoping that the list would be a good way for me to find the answer. A little beckground on the systems: P4 @ 3.0Ghz 2GB PC2

Re: [gentoo-user] Web Server Memory Issues

2011-01-13 Thread Kaddeh
yes, but that should have an effect on swap space. Cheers Kad On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Bill Longman bill.long...@gmail.comwrote: On 01/13/2011 09:59 AM, Kaddeh wrote: I have a standard 2x RAM swap size of 4gb. The problem that I am seeing though is that the applications (MySQL

[gentoo-user] PHP won't execute

2011-01-13 Thread Michael Sullivan
A several years ago I ran a public network out of my apartment. I had email, www, etc. etc. It all worked fine. Then one day a couple of years ago we decided that we could not afford to pay for a public IP address anymore, so we had it turned off. I haven't touched apache since then, but we

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange problem with audio CDs

2011-01-13 Thread pk
On 2011-01-13 20:14, J. Roeleveld wrote: They are easy to spot though as only CDs adhering to the red book standard are legally allowed to display the Audio-CD logo. Yeah, I read about Philips talking to the music industry about this a few years ago, claiming they would take them to court

[gentoo-user] PHP won't execute

2011-01-13 Thread Michael Sullivan
A several years ago I ran a public network out of my apartment. I had email, www, etc. etc. It all worked fine. Then one day a couple of years ago we decided that we could not afford to pay for a public IP address anymore, so we had it turned off. I haven't touched apache since then, but we

[gentoo-user] how to forbid dhcp for eth0

2011-01-13 Thread doherty pete
when i start the kernel, it wait long time to dhcp for eth0: eth0:dhcped 4.0.15 starting eth0:waiting for carrier i want to forbid dhcp,how can i do? -- pete_doherty

Re: [gentoo-user] how to forbid dhcp for eth0

2011-01-13 Thread James L
when i start the kernel, it wait long time to dhcp for eth0: eth0:dhcped 4.0.15 starting eth0:waiting for carrier i want to forbid dhcp,how can i do? -- pete_doherty Look at /etc/conf.d/net.example and set a static IP for eth0 or remove /etc/init.d/net.eth0 (to not start the interface).

Re: [gentoo-user] PHP won't execute

2011-01-13 Thread Mick
On Friday 14 January 2011 04:00:12 Michael Sullivan wrote: A several years ago I ran a public network out of my apartment. I had email, www, etc. etc. It all worked fine. Then one day a couple of years ago we decided that we could not afford to pay for a public IP address anymore, so we had

Re: [gentoo-user] how to forbid dhcp for eth0

2011-01-13 Thread Dale
doherty pete wrote: when i start the kernel, it wait long time to dhcp for eth0: eth0:dhcped 4.0.15 starting eth0:waiting for carrier i want to forbid dhcp,how can i do? -- pete_doherty I'm not sure but would this help? # Some people want a finer grain over hotplug/coldplug.