Re: [gentoo-user] OT: future moderation
Am 12.06.2011 01:19, schrieb Matt Harrison: Hi list, [...] I don't know if anyone is subscribed to the ruby-talk mailing list at the moment (or used to be on the comp.lang.lisp group a while ago). There is an odd character there who is harming the community by either being insane (not my words -- those of ruby guru Ryan Davis) or with extremely well crafted trolling. I see the trouble that ruby-talk is having with him and I wondered firstly, if we would have similar trouble moderating his crap (he alternates between email, usenet and forums. Apparently they can't moderate him) and secondly, if/when he turns up here can we please shoot him down the instant he arrives. [...] In case there is serious trouble (spam bots and mis-configured out-of-office replies are the only cases I know of), you can file a bug for the mailing list at bugs.gentoo.org under the Gentoo Infrastructure project. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design
On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:22:00 David W Noon wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: [...] Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the breakage. [...] I hope all is clear now. This one is also shown as a reply to Indi. Coincidence? -- Rgds Peter
[gentoo-user] [OT] iSCSI target
Hi, I wanted to play a bit with iSCSI and wants to setup iSCSI target(s) on one of my servers. Now I find two iSCSI target software's in portage (sys- block/iscsitarget sys-block/open-iscsi). Does anyone out there any experience with either one of these? Pro/Cons? When looking at the web-sites open-iscsi seems dead, last update of web-site 2005 and latest release from July 2009. iscsitarget does not look much better - latest release July 2010. So, what are you using and are you happy with it? Regards, -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:06:00 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:22:00 David W Noon wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design: [...] Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the breakage. [...] I hope all is clear now. This one is also shown as a reply to Indi. Coincidence? No. These headers, from my message, indicate why: In-Reply-To: h0rbj-6tn...@gated-at.bofh.it References: h0nu6-po...@gated-at.bofh.it h0o3m-1jx...@gated-at.bofh.it h0qrx-61...@gated-at.bofh.it h0rbj-6tn...@gated-at.bofh.it The message id's were still being munged by the rogue NNTP server, so your MUA is attempting to rebuild the thread structure based on Subject: and Date: header lines. It seems Claws on my system and KMail on your system do things differently, so KMail is attaching my reply to Mick's message erroneously, whereas Claws attached it correctly (here) to Mick's message. You should see this reply correctly threaded to your message, provided you are not reading the mailing list through Usenet downstream from the bofh.it server. - -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk30rUgACgkQRQ2Fs59Psv8d7QCdHgabWKY7/Ytvdyw2y4oP8pIX DasAn2lBO9OPn8PI74tUtqiGCIq+cVun =ugjt -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] iSCSI target
Am 12.06.2011 13:23, schrieb Dan Johansson: Hi, I wanted to play a bit with iSCSI and wants to setup iSCSI target(s) on one of my servers. Now I find two iSCSI target software's in portage (sys- block/iscsitarget sys-block/open-iscsi). Does anyone out there any experience with either one of these? Pro/Cons? When looking at the web-sites open-iscsi seems dead, last update of web-site 2005 and latest release from July 2009. iscsitarget does not look much better - latest release July 2010. So, what are you using and are you happy with it? Regards, This [1] has been posted on Gentoo-user and Gentoo-dev about a week ago. Therefore open-iscsi seems to be alive and kicking - at least on Gentoo. No personal experience, though. [1] http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/dev/231940 Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] OT: retrieving log with svn
Hi, For tracing an issue with a software (OpenSource) I need to know, what file gets changed in what revision (the change itsself is subject to further checks...). I dont want to stress the svn server more than nescessary so I want to issue the correct command once. With other projects I did a svn log and its lists all revisions and the comments made, but not a list of filenames of the files, which were changed at each revision. Is there a way to get a list of all files changed with each revision for all revisions? What command do I need to submit? Thank you very much for any help in advance! Have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] USB Problems
Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk
[gentoo-user] LIRC problem
Hello all, Tried to setup LIRC. I built my own serial receiver for serial, and it works. I get a /dev/lirc0 and mode2 generates output on keypresses. Currently I am using a One for All URC 7130 When I run irrecord it takes me through two phases of pressing keys, and then it asks me for only the next key and then quits. Is it not supposed to ask for all keys? Is there another way to configure it? There is no config file on the lirc website for my remote. Regards, Coert
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 16:36]: Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, may be this could help to track th eerror more closely: Recompile the kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set. If not already done, enable CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and read about the available commands in the according docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/. This is a overall life saver in many other cases too. But it may be a security hole also -- you can disable it in /proc/ later. If possible change /etc/fstab to mount the partition to which logging will go with the sync option so every log entry will go directly onto the bare metal instead of a RAM buffer. Reboot into console mode (no X). cd to the logging directory and do a tail -f onto the logfile in question Insert the USB stick of death ;) and see, whether you can see anything in the tailed log. If not do the magic sysrq dance to sync hds, remount readonly and finally reboot. Take a closer look into the resulting logs. Good luck! Nevertheless have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: retrieving log with svn
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, For tracing an issue with a software (OpenSource) I need to know, what file gets changed in what revision (the change itsself is subject to further checks...). I dont want to stress the svn server more than nescessary so I want to issue the correct command once. With other projects I did a svn log and its lists all revisions and the comments made, but not a list of filenames of the files, which were changed at each revision. Is there a way to get a list of all files changed with each revision for all revisions? What command do I need to submit? Check the man page, but I use svn -v log to get the file names. Hope this helps. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: retrieving log with svn
cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [11-06-12 17:12]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, For tracing an issue with a software (OpenSource) I need to know, what file gets changed in what revision (the change itsself is subject to further checks...). I dont want to stress the svn server more than nescessary so I want to issue the correct command once. With other projects I did a svn log and its lists all revisions and the comments made, but not a list of filenames of the files, which were changed at each revision. Is there a way to get a list of all files changed with each revision for all revisions? What command do I need to submit? Check the man page, but I use svn -v log to get the file names. Hope this helps. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com Hi John, YES! That helps a lot ! THX! :) Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: future moderation
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:58 on Sunday 12 June 2011, Mark Knecht did opine thusly: On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Matt Harrison iwasinnamuk...@genestate.com wrote: Hi list, An odd post here but I'm sitting up after midnight with a few beers and I wanted to get an advanced word on this. I don't know if anyone is subscribed to the ruby-talk mailing list at the moment (or used to be on the comp.lang.lisp group a while ago). There is an odd character there who is harming the community by either being insane (not my words -- those of ruby guru Ryan Davis) or with extremely well crafted trolling. I see the trouble that ruby-talk is having with him and I wondered firstly, if we would have similar trouble moderating his crap (he alternates between email, usenet and forums. Apparently they can't moderate him) and secondly, if/when he turns up here can we please shoot him down the instant he arrives. Ok, as I'm writing this it does seem that I'm going a little crazy, but I consider this list my home. I love this list and the people on it..I don't post that much these days but I have learned a lot. When I do post, I get very helpful replies and I know you're good people. I would just hate for this guy to come on here and wreck the joint. Take this as you will, drunken ramblings or well-meant concern :) Matt Matt, I'm sure your concerns are well intentioned so let's assume for the sake of conversation that there was going to be a problem. I've been a member of this list for (I think) 11 or 12 years now. I know of no case (made public anyway) where a specific individual has been banned. It's always been the receiver's requirements (you and me) to blacklist the individual if we don't like what they say. That's not to say that whoever moderates the server couldn't do something. I simply don't know that anyone ever has taken a step quite that drastic. +1 We've been lucky so far on gentoo-user. OTOH, luck extending for 12 years years probably isn't luck anymore, and is more like skill. Like Mark says, we've had our fair share of twits over the years. But there's always been a chorus from the members about how the troller is being a twit, and it doesn't take long before they give up and go away. Part of the fun from a troller's POV is when folk bite, this list doesn't let that happen much. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Graphviz needs libjpeg.la
media-gfx/graphviz-2.26.3-r2 fails to compile because: grep: /usr/lib/libjpeg.la: No such file or directory The file does not exist. /usr/lib has the following files: libjpeg.a libjpeg.so - libjpeg.so.8.0.2 libjpeg.so.62 libjpeg.so.8 - libjpeg.so.8.0.2 libjpeg.so.8.0.2 I've reemerged jpeg, run revdep-rebuild, etc. I've scoured the web and found a number of issues and bugs related to the libjpeg.la file but none of them offer a solution which works for me. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. -- [The] common men-in-the-street and women-in-the-street ... have as great a hate and contempt of sex as the greyest Puritan ... They insist that a film- heroine shall be a neuter, that real sex feelings shall only be shown by the villain or villainess. - D.H. Lawrence
Re: [gentoo-user] Graphviz needs libjpeg.la
于 2011年06月13日 00:43, Daniel D Jones 写道: media-gfx/graphviz-2.26.3-r2 fails to compile because: grep: /usr/lib/libjpeg.la: No such file or directory The file does not exist. /usr/lib has the following files: libjpeg.a libjpeg.so - libjpeg.so.8.0.2 libjpeg.so.62 libjpeg.so.8 - libjpeg.so.8.0.2 libjpeg.so.8.0.2 I've reemerged jpeg, run revdep-rebuild, etc. I've scoured the web and found a number of issues and bugs related to the libjpeg.la file but none of them offer a solution which works for me. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. doing grep jpeg\\.la /usr/lib/lib*.la may help. Maybe some other libtool archive pull in the libjpeg.la signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Graphviz needs libjpeg.la
Daniel D Jones ddjones at riddlemaster.org writes: media-gfx/graphviz-2.26.3-r2 fails to compile because: try this and then study the results for clues: equery depgraph --depth=1 graphviz search for pkgs one level deep that graphviz needs to compile I've reemerged jpeg, run revdep-rebuild, etc. I've scoured the web and found a number of issues and bugs related to the libjpeg.la file but none of them offer a solution which works for me. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. First you have to use the tools, such as equery to discern hints as to your compilation issue(s). Then try things like this: emerge dev-util/lafilefixer ; lafilefixer --justfixit revdep-rebuild -- --keep-going Lafilefixer is on the way to being deprecated so make sure you have recently sync the system and performed updates to all of your software. Other times package get orphaned and leave fragments of files around. Read up on eclean. [1] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Gentoo_maintenance Good hunting, hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:45:38 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 16:36]: Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, may be this could help to track th eerror more closely: Recompile the kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set. If not already done, enable CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and read about the available commands in the according docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/. This is a overall life saver in many other cases too. But it may be a security hole also -- you can disable it in /proc/ later. If possible change /etc/fstab to mount the partition to which logging will go with the sync option so every log entry will go directly onto the bare metal instead of a RAM buffer. Reboot into console mode (no X). cd to the logging directory and do a tail -f onto the logfile in question Insert the USB stick of death ;) and see, whether you can see anything in the tailed log. If not do the magic sysrq dance to sync hds, remount readonly and finally reboot. Take a closer look into the resulting logs. Good luck! Nevertheless have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc Thanks mmc, CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set to y When I plug in USB device SYSREQ does not work. I have tested when system is normal and all ok with SYSREQ so USB device is locking up system completely. I have put sync in mount table but when device is inserted error log is not being produced (in /var/log/messages, etc). I may end up having to take a photo of error log(lol). Or there maybe some other way of catching error which Gentoo gurus may advise. I have tried 3 memory sticks and they all lock system up. These work on another PC using Arch and work on this PC dual booting with Windows. I have a usb hard drive which works ok so it is a memory stick only issue Hmmm. -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 20:52]: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:45:38 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 16:36]: Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, may be this could help to track th eerror more closely: Recompile the kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set. If not already done, enable CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and read about the available commands in the according docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/. This is a overall life saver in many other cases too. But it may be a security hole also -- you can disable it in /proc/ later. If possible change /etc/fstab to mount the partition to which logging will go with the sync option so every log entry will go directly onto the bare metal instead of a RAM buffer. Reboot into console mode (no X). cd to the logging directory and do a tail -f onto the logfile in question Insert the USB stick of death ;) and see, whether you can see anything in the tailed log. If not do the magic sysrq dance to sync hds, remount readonly and finally reboot. Take a closer look into the resulting logs. Good luck! Nevertheless have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc Thanks mmc, CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set to y When I plug in USB device SYSREQ does not work. I have tested when system is normal and all ok with SYSREQ so USB device is locking up system completely. I have put sync in mount table but when device is inserted error log is not being produced (in /var/log/messages, etc). I may end up having to take a photo of error log(lol). Or there maybe some other way of catching error which Gentoo gurus may advise. I have tried 3 memory sticks and they all lock system up. These work on another PC using Arch and work on this PC dual booting with Windows. I have a usb hard drive which works ok so it is a memory stick only issue Hmmm. -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;) Just another shot into the dark: Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to let the usb-sticks work correctly. Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early phase of the bootprocess. With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the according modules with modinfo -p modulename to see, whether there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue. Modify under Kernel hacking in the kernel config the Default message log level to see more. Furthermore there is a switch Kernel debugging with sub-options. May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;) Last thing: If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks: Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition. This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would give a hint, where to search next. Good luck! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi John, if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;) Just another shot into the dark: Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to let the usb-sticks work correctly. Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early phase of the bootprocess. With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the according modules with modinfo -pmodulename to see, whether there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue. Modify under Kernel hacking in the kernel config the Default message log level to see more. Furthermore there is a switch Kernel debugging with sub-options. May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;) Last thing: If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks: Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition. This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would give a hint, where to search next. Good luck! Best regards, mcc Have you looked to see if that mobo has a USB problem and a BIOS update to fix it? Just curious. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:20:48 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 20:52]: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:45:38 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 16:36]: Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, may be this could help to track th eerror more closely: Recompile the kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set. If not already done, enable CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and read about the available commands in the according docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/. This is a overall life saver in many other cases too. But it may be a security hole also -- you can disable it in /proc/ later. If possible change /etc/fstab to mount the partition to which logging will go with the sync option so every log entry will go directly onto the bare metal instead of a RAM buffer. Reboot into console mode (no X). cd to the logging directory and do a tail -f onto the logfile in question Insert the USB stick of death ;) and see, whether you can see anything in the tailed log. If not do the magic sysrq dance to sync hds, remount readonly and finally reboot. Take a closer look into the resulting logs. Good luck! Nevertheless have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc Thanks mmc, CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set to y When I plug in USB device SYSREQ does not work. I have tested when system is normal and all ok with SYSREQ so USB device is locking up system completely. I have put sync in mount table but when device is inserted error log is not being produced (in /var/log/messages, etc). I may end up having to take a photo of error log(lol). Or there maybe some other way of catching error which Gentoo gurus may advise. I have tried 3 memory sticks and they all lock system up. These work on another PC using Arch and work on this PC dual booting with Windows. I have a usb hard drive which works ok so it is a memory stick only issue Hmmm. -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;) Just another shot into the dark: Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to let the usb-sticks work correctly. Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early phase of the bootprocess. With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the according modules with modinfo -p modulename to see, whether there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue. Modify under Kernel hacking in the kernel config the Default message log level to see more. Furthermore there is a switch Kernel debugging with sub-options. May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;) Last thing: If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks: Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition. This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would give a hint, where to search next. Good luck! Best regards, mcc Thanks Meino, Have recompliled USB as modules (ehci-hcd, ohci-hcd and usb-storage and load with /etc/conf.d/modules but still locks ups. Hope these are the right ones. I'll try scsi next. Also tried fdisk Linux file system and format ext3. But all to no avail. Still locking up. Have configure kernel hacking options as suggested. Error message as follows:- Bug: unable to handle kernel null pointer
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:50:18 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi John, if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;) Just another shot into the dark: Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to let the usb-sticks work correctly. Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early phase of the bootprocess. With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the according modules with modinfo -pmodulename to see, whether there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue. Modify under Kernel hacking in the kernel config the Default message log level to see more. Furthermore there is a switch Kernel debugging with sub-options. May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;) Last thing: If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks: Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition. This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would give a hint, where to search next. Good luck! Best regards, mcc Have you looked to see if that mobo has a USB problem and a BIOS update to fix it? Just curious. Dale :-) :-) Thanks Dale, Good thinking. Will have a look. Did upgrade earlier in the year but will have another look. -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
On Sunday 12 June 2011 15:30:12 john wrote: Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted have the same problem with 2.6.39 and 2.6.39.1 Whenever I disconnect my telephone from usb I have a 1 in 5 chance of a nice panic. Since your is an always panic maybe you should recreate it with vanilla sources and report it on lkml. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
On Sunday 12 June 2011 15:50:18 Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi John, if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;) Just another shot into the dark: Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to let the usb-sticks work correctly. Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early phase of the bootprocess. With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the according modules with modinfo -pmodulename to see, whether there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue. Modify under Kernel hacking in the kernel config the Default message log level to see more. Furthermore there is a switch Kernel debugging with sub-options. May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;) Last thing: If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks: Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition. This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would give a hint, where to search next. Good luck! Best regards, mcc Have you looked to see if that mobo has a USB problem and a BIOS update to fix it? lets see: 2.6.36 works fine 2.6.37 works fine 2.6.38.0 works fine 2.6.39 panic does not look like mobo problem. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
john wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:50:18 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Have you looked to see if that mobo has a USB problem and a BIOS update to fix it? Just curious. Dale :-) :-) Thanks Dale, Good thinking. Will have a look. Did upgrade earlier in the year but will have another look. Since the sticks work in other systems, they SHOULD be ok. Then it becomes a hardware issue. If they work in a OS then it makes me wonder if there is something about the BIOS itself. Maybe the BIOS has a issue that only affects it when it is being booted from. Just my weird thinking. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sunday 12 June 2011 15:50:18 Dale wrote: Have you looked to see if that mobo has a USB problem and a BIOS update to fix it? lets see: 2.6.36 works fine 2.6.37 works fine 2.6.38.0 works fine 2.6.39 panic does not look like mobo problem. In that case, you are likely correct. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:02:13AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 04 June 2011 20:31:35 David W Noon wrote: I'm reading it a bit late because I was doing a full system backup of my own newsserver system (~40 gigs) with the cron jobs all stopped, including the one that pulls messages from news.eternal-september.org. So I was off the air for about 3½ hours today. I'm using Kmail with bog-standard threading and aggregation, and this message is shown as a reply, not to Dale but to Indi; the message that contains this: Thanks for reporting on Thunderbird. When you say mutt has broken threading in the past, can you please be more specific? AFAIK there have been no problems like that in a couple of years. That looks like serious breakage to me. I haven't checked the references headers though, as I'm whizzing through a week's worth of e-mails after time away. It's dealt with days ago. Checked and verified in various MUAs. But thanks. :) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
On Sunday 12 June 2011 22:30:30 john wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:20:48 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 20:52]: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:45:38 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 16:36]: Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted Hi John, may be this could help to track th eerror more closely: Recompile the kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set. If not already done, enable CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and read about the available commands in the according docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/. This is a overall life saver in many other cases too. But it may be a security hole also -- you can disable it in /proc/ later. If possible change /etc/fstab to mount the partition to which logging will go with the sync option so every log entry will go directly onto the bare metal instead of a RAM buffer. Reboot into console mode (no X). cd to the logging directory and do a tail -f onto the logfile in question Insert the USB stick of death ;) and see, whether you can see anything in the tailed log. If not do the magic sysrq dance to sync hds, remount readonly and finally reboot. Take a closer look into the resulting logs. Good luck! Nevertheless have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc Thanks mmc, CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set to y When I plug in USB device SYSREQ does not work. I have tested when system is normal and all ok with SYSREQ so USB device is locking up system completely. I have put sync in mount table but when device is inserted error log is not being produced (in /var/log/messages, etc). I may end up having to take a photo of error log(lol). Or there maybe some other way of catching error which Gentoo gurus may advise. I have tried 3 memory sticks and they all lock system up. These work on another PC using Arch and work on this PC dual booting with Windows. I have a usb hard drive which works ok so it is a memory stick only issue Hmmm. Hi John, if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;) Just another shot into the dark: Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to let the usb-sticks work correctly. Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early phase of the bootprocess. With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the according modules with modinfo -p modulename to see, whether there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue. Modify under Kernel hacking in the kernel config the Default message log level to see more. Furthermore there is a switch Kernel debugging with sub-options. May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;) Last thing: If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks: Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition. This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would give a hint, where to search next. Good luck! Best regards, mcc Thanks Meino, Have recompliled USB as modules (ehci-hcd, ohci-hcd and usb-storage and load with /etc/conf.d/modules but still locks ups. Hope these are the right ones. I'll try scsi next. Also tried fdisk Linux file system and format ext3. But all to no avail. Still locking up. Have configure kernel hacking options as suggested. Error message as follows:- Bug: unable to handle kernel null pointer dereference at 0048 IP
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-13 01:13]: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 21:20:48 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 20:52]: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:45:38 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk [11-06-12 16:36]: Gents Whenever I insert external USB device my machine locks and I have to do a hard reset (sys req does not even work). I have tried this in a graphical environment and without. Machine boots up fine with USB keyboard and mouse but will not boot up with usb storage (memory stick - tried several) I have recently upgrade kernel to 2.6.38-r6 when this error started (approx). Hav also tried 2.6.38-r7 (which according to bugzilla should fix an issue similar to this) the error still happens. Any suggestions on kernel config options, debugging would be appreciated. And how to trap full error message. Error message alongs these lines Kernel panic not syncing - fatal exception in iterrupt ksoftirqd/1 Not tainted -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, may be this could help to track th eerror more closely: Recompile the kernel with CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set. If not already done, enable CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and read about the available commands in the according docs under /usr/src/linux/Documentation/. This is a overall life saver in many other cases too. But it may be a security hole also -- you can disable it in /proc/ later. If possible change /etc/fstab to mount the partition to which logging will go with the sync option so every log entry will go directly onto the bare metal instead of a RAM buffer. Reboot into console mode (no X). cd to the logging directory and do a tail -f onto the logfile in question Insert the USB stick of death ;) and see, whether you can see anything in the tailed log. If not do the magic sysrq dance to sync hds, remount readonly and finally reboot. Take a closer look into the resulting logs. Good luck! Nevertheless have a nice weekend! Best regards, mcc Thanks mmc, CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ and CONFIG_USB_DEBUG set to y When I plug in USB device SYSREQ does not work. I have tested when system is normal and all ok with SYSREQ so USB device is locking up system completely. I have put sync in mount table but when device is inserted error log is not being produced (in /var/log/messages, etc). I may end up having to take a photo of error log(lol). Or there maybe some other way of catching error which Gentoo gurus may advise. I have tried 3 memory sticks and they all lock system up. These work on another PC using Arch and work on this PC dual booting with Windows. I have a usb hard drive which works ok so it is a memory stick only issue Hmmm. -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk Hi John, if sysreq does not work after inserting the usbstick then the kernel stops working completly (the sysreq-code of the kernel is not entered), which seems to be that something happening on very low level (the problem not the sysreq-code of course... ;) Just another shot into the dark: Do you have modularized all usb-related stuff? This also may help to let the usb-sticks work correctly. Ah! Another thing: Insert the related modules into /etc/conf.d/modules so that they get loaded in a very early phase of the bootprocess. With modules loaded and with no usb-sticks as root inspect the according modules with modinfo -p modulename to see, whether there a additional parameters you may pass to the modules to get an extra of informations or - better - to fix the issue. Modify under Kernel hacking in the kernel config the Default message log level to see more. Furthermore there is a switch Kernel debugging with sub-options. May be turning on these may also help to get closer to all evil ;) Last thing: If there is nothing valueable stored on the usbsticks: Try to reformat the usbsticks. Instead of putting a FAT32-fs on the bare device, create a regular partition and create a Linux-fs (reiserfs, ext2/3/4 or like that) on that partition. This may not be good idea in general, but - if it works - this would give a hint, where to search next. Good luck! Best regards, mcc Thanks Meino, Have recompliled USB as modules (ehci-hcd, ohci-hcd and usb-storage and load with /etc/conf.d/modules but still locks ups. Hope these are the right ones. I'll try scsi next. Also tried fdisk Linux file system and format ext3. But all to no
Re: [gentoo-user] Sorting soundcards...
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:49 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: it seems that snd-hda-intel no longer supports vid= and pid=, since there messages unknown parameter in the bootlog. Also I dont find any product ids when grepping in /sys/. or with lspci -vv. I am using Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24. on a vanilla linux 2.6.39.1 kernel... Hmm, it's strange because I'm using the same kernel exactly, but don't have any error. I think you're correct that vid/pid options don't exist for hda-intel. Maybe it's only a coincidence that it ever worked for me in the correct order. Keeping USB from becoming first was the biggest problem for me. Anyway, to get the VID/PID you could use lspci with the -nn option to show both name and numeric form. But that does not matter now. :) I think the correct option for HDA module (instead of vid/pid) is id which is a text identifier. To get the ID of your card, you can do like follows, and hope they are different... I don't know what you can do if they are both the same. $ cat /proc/asound/card0/id Intel $ cat /proc/asound/card1/id NVidia So in my case, one card is called Intel and other is NVidia. I think I will change my modprobe options to be like this instead: options snd-intel-hda model=intel-x58,auto enable_msi=1,0 index=0,1 id=Intel,NVidia options snd-usb-audio index=2 (I did not try it yet) Hopefully that method can work for you, too. Otherwise, udev rules /should/ be the last way to determine the order, but I have not done that.
[gentoo-user] Why does my boot-up sequence look... well... messy?
Hello, I've been scratching my head about this problem. I'm installing Gentoo x86 on XenServer. When I run the Minimal CD using HVM-mode, I got a nice, tidy/tabulated, and colorful output: See: http://i.imgur.com/Trus5.png However, when I've successfully adapted the installation into PV-mode the output becomes messy: * The [ok] is no longer right-justified, but on a new line * The [ok] is no longer colored; just bland white See: http://i.imgur.com/etVww.png Now, what should I do so that the boot sequence again shows a tidy and colorful output? TIA Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
[gentoo-user] OT: Firefox - saved or not ot be saved...
Hi, there is one feature of forefox, which bugs me: On the same site (www.blenderswap.com) I click to files to download. One is a *.blend, the other one is a *.rar. When I click the *.blend, the file gets downloaded and stored on my hd at once - bad! When I click the *.rar, the file gets NOT downloaded at once and instead I am offered a dialog, which asks what to do. I looked into Preferences-Application, which lists filetypes and the according action and DONT find an entry for *.blend files. Where can I change the action selected by Firefox which gets executed for a certain filetype else? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:57:11 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: john wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:50:18 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Have you looked to see if that mobo has a USB problem and a BIOS update to fix it? Just curious. Dale :-) :-) Thanks Dale, Good thinking. Will have a look. Did upgrade earlier in the year but will have another look. Since the sticks work in other systems, they SHOULD be ok. Then it becomes a hardware issue. If they work in a OS then it makes me wonder if there is something about the BIOS itself. Maybe the BIOS has a issue that only affects it when it is being booted from. Just my weird thinking. Dale :-) :-) Thanks, 2.6.36 works fine 2.6.38-r6/r7 panic Have noticed that using device drivers as modules allows me to boot with memory stick already inserted. This previously would not work. But the problem still occurs when stick is hot plugged. So the issue is half solved At least I can access memory stick. So thanks there. Will try Vanilla sources tonight and report bug to lkml. BIOS is latest standard. SO can't upgrade there -- -- -- John D Maunder j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Firefox - saved or not ot be saved...
meino.cra...@gmx.de: there is one feature of forefox, which bugs me: On the same site (www.blenderswap.com) I click to files to download. One is a *.blend, the other one is a *.rar. When I click the *.blend, the file gets downloaded and stored on my hd at once - bad! When I click the *.rar, the file gets NOT downloaded at once and instead I am offered a dialog, which asks what to do. I looked into Preferences-Application, which lists filetypes and the according action and DONT find an entry for *.blend files. What happens depends on the Content-Type with which the server delivers the file. Here is an example. http://www.triffids.de/pub/blend/ Both files are identical text files, but hm.blend1 comes with text/plain and hm.blend2 comes with text/hafi. The last is unknown *g*, so it will be asked what to do. text/plain is well known and the browser will display its content. Where can I change the action selected by Firefox which gets executed for a certain filetype else? Look at the Content-Type of your *.blend. One way to do this is with HEAD which is part of libwww-perl. hafi@i5 ~ $ HEAD http://www.triffids.de/pub/blend/hm.blend2 200 OK Connection: close Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:21:15 GMT Accept-Ranges: bytes ETag: 942355-b-4a590cf7e03b1 Server: Apache Content-Length: 11 Content-Type: text/hafi Last-Modified: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:01:21 GMT Client-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2011 05:21:15 GMT Client-Peer: 85.13.136.212:80 Client-Response-Num: 1 Hartmut -- Usenet-ABC-Wiki http://www.usenet-abc.de/wiki/ Von Usern fuer User :-)
[gentoo-user] /usr/portage/distfiles for amd64 and x86 -- the same?
Please forgive my (probably) stupid question: Are the distfiles in /usr/portage/distfiles identical for both amd64 and x86 Gentoo? Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
john wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:57:11 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: john wrote: On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:50:18 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Have you looked to see if that mobo has a USB problem and a BIOS update to fix it? Just curious. Dale :-) :-) Thanks Dale, Good thinking. Will have a look. Did upgrade earlier in the year but will have another look. Since the sticks work in other systems, they SHOULD be ok. Then it becomes a hardware issue. If they work in a OS then it makes me wonder if there is something about the BIOS itself. Maybe the BIOS has a issue that only affects it when it is being booted from. Just my weird thinking. Dale :-) :-) Thanks, 2.6.36 works fine 2.6.38-r6/r7 panic Have noticed that using device drivers as modules allows me to boot with memory stick already inserted. This previously would not work. But the problem still occurs when stick is hot plugged. So the issue is half solved At least I can access memory stick. So thanks there. Will try Vanilla sources tonight and report bug to lkml. BIOS is latest standard. SO can't upgrade there We know how hard it is to fix a flakey problem. It could be anything or it could be the half asleep geek in the chair. That last one gets me a LOT. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
