Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alexander Puchmayr
Depending on your available ram and swap space, you might want to mount /var/tmp/portage as tmpfs. My fstab entry shows none/var/tmp/portagetmpfs size=10g,nr_inodes=1m I have 4GB ram, and the speed benefit especially for open/libre-office is quite impressive. The

[gentoo-user] wireshark fails. undefined reference to ****

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Is anyone else running into this: libtool: link: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DINET6 -D_U_=__attribute__((unused)) -march=native -O2 -pipe -Wall -W -Wextra -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels -Wpointer-arith -Wno-pointer-sign -Warray-bounds -Wcast-align -Wformat-security -I/usr/include

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 08:24:37 Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Depending on your available ram and swap space, you might want to mount /var/tmp/portage as tmpfs. My fstab entry shows none/var/tmp/portagetmpfs size=10g,nr_inodes=1m I have 4GB ram, and the speed

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 08:24:37 Alexander Puchmayr wrote: Depending on your available ram and swap space, you might want to mount /var/tmp/portage as tmpfs. My fstab entry shows none                    /var/tmp/portage  

Re: [gentoo-user] wireshark fails. undefined reference to ****

2011-07-27 Thread Todd Goodman
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [110727 05:07]: Is anyone else running into this: libtool: link: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -DINET6 -D_U_=__attribute__((unused)) -march=native -O2 -pipe -Wall -W -Wextra -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wendif-labels -Wpointer-arith -Wno-pointer-sign

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 14:29:12 Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: What will libreoffice do if /var/tmp/portage is a tmpfs? Start swapping like mad? No; the tmpfs runs out of space, and the build fails. Had that happen with

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Wednesday 27 July 2011 14:29:12 Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: What will libreoffice do if /var/tmp/portage is a tmpfs?  Start swapping like mad?

Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread Andy Wilkinson
On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, pk wrote: On 2011-07-26 22:36, Alokat wrote: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L7100 @ 1.20GHz snip I guess *core2* is the right one? Yes, acc. to:

Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com wrote: ** On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, pk wrote: On 2011-07-26 22:36, Alokat wrote: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L7100 @ 1.20GHz snip I guess *core2* is the right one? Yes, acc.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a tmpfs filesystem is half the physical RAM, unless you specify more as a

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a tmpfs filesystem is half the physical RAM,

RE: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
-original message- Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU From: Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.com Date: 2011-07-27 21:09 Another good trick I've found on the forums is to run: $ gcc -### -e -v -march=native /usr/include/stdlib.h The last line of output will include the various CFLAGS that

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 15:40:03 Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap partition. Perhaps you didn't have any swap at the time. The default size for a

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 July 2011 15:40:03 Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:41:33 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: Doesn't do that here. When tmpfs is full it starts being swapped out to the swap

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:52:53 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported doing actually measurements

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:52:53 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported

Re: [gentoo-user] wireshark fails. undefined reference to ****

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: It looks like you're missing linking in of libgcrypt. Maybe ensure you have an up to date version (or not too up to date.) Or try emerging without the gcrypt use flag? I just emerged that for x86 and had no problem. But I don't have the gcrypt use flag enabled. Todd

Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Andy Wilkinson drukar...@gmail.comwrote: ** On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, pk wrote: On 2011-07-26 22:36, Alokat wrote: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L7100 @ 1.20GHz

Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 17:13:21 Kfir Lavi wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Andy Wilkinson Another good trick I've found on the forums is to run: $ gcc -### -e -v -march=native /usr/include/stdlib.h The

Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 17:13:21 Kfir Lavi wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Andy Wilkinson  Another good trick I've found on the forums is

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported doing actually measurements

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all.

Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 21:24:33 Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 Jul 2011 17:13:21 Kfir Lavi wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Kfir Lavi lavi.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Andy

Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Todd Goodman wrote: It's certainly possible it's unrelated. Or it could be something similar and the other bug reporter made a mistake bisecting or didn't run long enough to fail with that bisection. It's possibly a lot of things since we don't have enough information. I don't think that

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I wonder how effective tmpfs is for PORTAGE_TMPDIR as the builds that need a lot of disk space can often require a fair bit of memory too, and tmpfs is using it all. In this last week someone reported doing

Re: [gentoo-user] CFlags for CPU

2011-07-27 Thread pk
On 2011-07-27 20:32, Mick wrote: It seems that on my early i7, the -march=core2 does not have all the -msse* flags enabled, while native does: Acc. to this there is a flag for i7, BUT... I'm not sure if current stable version accepts it:

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here.  It's not like I'm going to run out or anything.  I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left.  That is more than enough to compile

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left.

Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels

2011-07-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 22:03:31 Dale wrote: Does this make sense to anyone? Yes. I think your power interruption has damaged the drive electronics. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter number 5290

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Joshua Murphy
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com  wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I have 16Gbs here.  It's not like I'm going to run out or

Re: [gentoo-user] X Freezes With Firefox on Many Post 2.6.38 Kernels

2011-07-27 Thread James Wall
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Here is a update.  Let's see what folks think about this situation.  I mentioned in another thread that I did a from scratch kernel.  It was a .35 version.  It seemed to work fine, for a while.  When I tell Seamonkey to

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Joshua Murphy wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:51 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.comwrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:58:28 -0500, Dale wrote: I

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:54:22 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: It makes sense because the ramdisk is using memory that would otherwise be used for compilation and filesystem caches. tmpfs isn't implemented as a ramdisk, it's implemented as a thin layer on top of the filesystem cache. That's

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: It makes sense because the ramdisk is using memory that would otherwise be used for compilation and filesystem caches. I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on tmpfs and still have 8Gbs left.

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:07:30 -0500, Dale wrote: It makes sense because the ramdisk is using memory that would otherwise be used for compilation and filesystem caches. I have 16Gbs here. It's not like I'm going to run out or anything. I can put half on

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Neil Bothwick wrote: I wasn't thinking of systems with that much memory. Like you, I'd expect your system to be faster, even if not by much, using tmpfs. That's what I was expecting too. It is confusing for sure. Years ago, I used tmpfs, and it was slightly faster, but on

[gentoo-user] Re: mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-27 Thread walt
On 07/25/2011 08:54 PM, Grant wrote: BTW, can anyone tell me why I'm using icedtea6-bin instead of icedtea? When I first installed icedtea-bin there was no icedtea package, so I tried to compile it myself using online instructions and gave up in frustration. I'm glad you asked, because now

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: That's what I was expecting too. It is confusing for sure. Years ago, I used tmpfs, and it was slightly faster, but on average only few seconds in an hou-long emerge. I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run KDe here. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used 8Gbs, you got a lot running or something. o_O That should read less than 2 Gbs all the time. I hit the wrong button. lol Dale :-) :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 07/25/2011 08:54 PM, Grant wrote: BTW, can anyone tell me why I'm using icedtea6-bin instead of icedtea? When I first installed icedtea-bin there was no icedtea package, so I tried to compile it myself using online instructions and gave up in frustration. I'm glad

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Carter
Now I got to ask a question.  Does this replace the other flash player thingy that has so many security holes? No, java != flash, different plugin. Try about:plugins in the URL box so see what you have.

[gentoo-user] Re: Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread walt
On 07/27/2011 08:01 AM, Michael Mol wrote: If you allow tmpfs to be backed by swap... Does that require some extra configuration?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Adam Carter wrote: Now I got to ask a question. Does this replace the other flash player thingy that has so many security holes? No, java != flash, different plugin. Try about:plugins in the URL box so see what you have. OK. I just thought there may be a open source option that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: mysqld invoked oom-killer

2011-07-27 Thread Adam Carter
OK.  I just thought there may be a open source option that is better or at least has less security problems. There are some, lightspark and gnash are in portage. I've never tried any of them...

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run KDe here. I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used 8Gbs, you got a lot running or something.

[gentoo-user] Re: wireshark fails. undefined reference to ****

2011-07-27 Thread walt
On 07/27/2011 09:04 AM, Dale wrote: Todd Goodman wrote: It looks like you're missing linking in of libgcrypt. Maybe ensure you have an up to date version (or not too up to date.) Or try emerging without the gcrypt use flag? I just emerged that for x86 and had no problem. But I don't have

Re: [gentoo-user] Running out of space on /var partition

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
Alex Schuster wrote: Dale writes: Alex Schuster wrote: I don't use tmpfs any more, as 8G of RAM is barely enough to run KDe here. I run KDE here and it uses less than 1Gbs all the time. Most of the time it hovers around 1Gb with a lot of junk open. If your used 8Gbs,

[gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?

2011-07-27 Thread walt
On 07/26/2011 06:07 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Anyone here knows at what time the Gentoo IRC channels are usually active? In UTC, if possible :) (Still can't wrap my head around USA time zone codes) I'd like to commission a survey of, say, MS, google, and Oracle, to see who is wearing a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: wireshark fails. undefined reference to ****

2011-07-27 Thread Dale
walt wrote: On 07/27/2011 09:04 AM, Dale wrote: Todd Goodman wrote: It looks like you're missing linking in of libgcrypt. Maybe ensure you have an up to date version (or not too up to date.) Or try emerging without the gcrypt use flag? I just emerged that for x86 and had no

[gentoo-user] logrotate blocks portage?

2011-07-27 Thread Pandu Poluan
Tried `emerge -avuND @world` and found out that logrotate blocks portage : Total: 17 packages (13 upgrades, 1 downgrade, 2 new, 1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 39,167 kB Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied) * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be * installed at the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: IRC active time?

2011-07-27 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:23 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/26/2011 06:07 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Anyone here knows at what time the Gentoo IRC channels are usually active? In UTC, if possible :) (Still can't wrap my head around USA time zone codes) I'd like to commission a survey