Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384257 Search an ye shall find ... On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 04:42 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: === FLTK ===
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
Am 17.10.2011 00:46, schrieb Alex Schuster: Florian Philipp is not up to date yet: I agree that the problem should be solved but just in case Colleen wants to continue with his installation (I know, he is installing Gentoo for ~~~ ~~~ the first time so I doubt he values his time very high ;-) ), I suggest ~~~~~~~ Read the rest of this thread, you'll be quite surprised :-) Wonko Ups, sorry Colleen! :-D signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to cross compile Perl for ARM?
On 10/14/2011 05:15 PM, czernitko wrote: AFAIK the biggest disadvantage of crossdev-created toolchain, compared to other cross compilation tools, is that without usage of emulator (like qemu-user) it is not possible to compile things that use in their configure scipts checks that need to be run on the target architecture (like Perl). I don't know how the CodeSourcery toolchain was generated so I'm probably missing your point, but with buildroot I easily build the whole rootfs on Gentoo x86 PC. No target emulation at all. buildroot takes off of you the burden of patching the configure scripts to properly cross-compile. But, the version of buildroot I used does not include Perl, only 'microperl' (which I did not need so I never compiled).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to cross compile Perl for ARM?
Thank you James! I totally missed the existence of gentoo-embedded list, I I'll post my questions there. 2011/10/16 James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com czernitko czernitko at gmail.com writes: Hello!I started playing a little bit with cross compilation for ARM architecture. Using crossdev I created a toolchain for arm-none-linux-gnueabi tuple.Now I'd like to emerge some more packages, but perl constantly refuses to emerge and it is needed by many packages. You have the right idea using the gentoo embedded handbook as your guide. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/ You may want to join/post to the gentoo-embedded list where you'll find much more expertise on ARM and cross-compiling issues. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:35:35 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
preup() {
if [ $IFACE = eth0 ]; then
ebegin Reloading broadcom and tg3 modules
modprobe -r foo bar
modprobe broadcom
modprobe tg3
ewend $? Failed to reload modules
fi
return 0
}
This seems more elegant than a separate init script, but do you want it
to return 0 unconditionally? If the modules fail to load, surely you want
the attempt to bring the interface up to abort?
--
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Famed tautologist dies of suicide in distressing tragedy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
On 17 October 2011 09:15, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 00:35:35 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote:
preup() {
if [ $IFACE = eth0 ]; then
ebegin Reloading broadcom and tg3 modules
modprobe -r foo bar
modprobe broadcom
modprobe tg3
ewend $? Failed to reload modules
fi
return 0
}
This seems more elegant than a separate init script, but do you want it
to return 0 unconditionally? If the modules fail to load, surely you want
the attempt to bring the interface up to abort?
In my head I find it less elegant to be honest. Is it up to a network
configuration script to load the *kernel* module for the hardware?
--
Regards,
Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:19:16 +0100, Mick wrote: This seems more elegant than a separate init script, but do you want it to return 0 unconditionally? If the modules fail to load, surely you want the attempt to bring the interface up to abort? In my head I find it less elegant to be honest. Is it up to a network configuration script to load the *kernel* module for the hardware? Is it up to an init script to do that either? I'd say no. either way seems wrong, but having the network config check that the interface is available before trying to bring it up seems somewhat less wrong. -- Neil Bothwick I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
Am 17.10.2011 13:30, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 12:19:16 +0100, Mick wrote: This seems more elegant than a separate init script, but do you want it to return 0 unconditionally? If the modules fail to load, surely you want the attempt to bring the interface up to abort? In my head I find it less elegant to be honest. Is it up to a network configuration script to load the *kernel* module for the hardware? Is it up to an init script to do that either? I'd say no. either way seems wrong, but having the network config check that the interface is available before trying to bring it up seems somewhat less wrong. Yes, I intended it to return 0 unconditionally. My reasoning was that a) trying anyway doesn't hurt. b) when you change your kernel config or hardware and don't need that workaround anymore, it is better to have a working network and a warning rather than no network and an error. c) for something that is potentially important for the user to get access to the system, you should try as hard as possible to get it running before giving up. Of course, this is more important for a headless server than a desktop but scripts tend to get copied around. Concerning what is more elegant: no clue. I guess you could even use udev for this stuff but I don't know the syntax. One thing that I worry more about is that there might be a race condition. Maybe after loading the module, some time is necessary for the interface to appear. I ran into an issue like that while playing around with the zram module. In such a case, the separate init script has a higher chance to succeed than a bash function called some milliseconds before the interface initialization. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
On Mon, October 17, 2011 12:35 am, Florian Philipp wrote:
snipped
I agree that the problem should be solved but just in case Colleen wants
to continue with his installation (I know, he is installing Gentoo for
the first time so I doubt he values his time very high ;-) ), I suggest
he either implements my proposal outlined above or adds similar code to
/etc/conf.d/net:
preup() {
if [ $IFACE = eth0 ]; then
ebegin Reloading broadcom and tg3 modules
modprobe -r foo bar
modprobe broadcom
modprobe tg3
ewend $? Failed to reload modules
fi
return 0
}
For correctness, please change the 4th line above from:
modprobe -r foo bar
to:
modprobe -r broadcom tg3
I somehow doubt there will be a module called foo or bar :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional
On Saturday 10/15/11 00:05:35 CST, Lavender wrote: It's my fault, there're no line-breaks because I wrote the letters exactly like what the screenshot shows . I will write just like this letter. No more questions , good evening and tomorrow is a nice day ! A little tip about your mail client. It handles mail thread references incorrectly, and changes mail titles. Maybe you could try a mail agent like gmail which does a good job for mailling lists. -- oooO: (..): :\.(:::Oooo:: ::\_)::(..):: :::)./::: ::(_/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
On Mon, 17 Oct 2011 14:39:40 +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: Is it up to an init script to do that either? I'd say no. either way seems wrong, but having the network config check that the interface is available before trying to bring it up seems somewhat less wrong. Yes, I intended it to return 0 unconditionally. My reasoning was that a) trying anyway doesn't hurt. Fair enough. One thing that I worry more about is that there might be a race condition. Maybe after loading the module, some time is necessary for the interface to appear. I ran into an issue like that while playing around with the zram module. In such a case, the separate init script has a higher chance to succeed than a bash function called some milliseconds before the interface initialization. You could add a sleep 1 to preup(). -- Neil Bothwick By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another Install Issue
Am 17.10.2011 14:40, schrieb J. Roeleveld:
On Mon, October 17, 2011 12:35 am, Florian Philipp wrote:
snipped
I agree that the problem should be solved but just in case Colleen wants
to continue with his installation (I know, he is installing Gentoo for
the first time so I doubt he values his time very high ;-) ), I suggest
he either implements my proposal outlined above or adds similar code to
/etc/conf.d/net:
preup() {
if [ $IFACE = eth0 ]; then
ebegin Reloading broadcom and tg3 modules
modprobe -r foo bar
modprobe broadcom
modprobe tg3
ewend $? Failed to reload modules
fi
return 0
}
For correctness, please change the 4th line above from:
modprobe -r foo bar
to:
modprobe -r broadcom tg3
I somehow doubt there will be a module called foo or bar :)
--
Joost
I should stop writing replies at midnight ;) First I call Colleen a male
newcomer, then I fail to change my own test code.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:Don’t doubt! It really works! It can help you right now!
Can Dennis be dropped from the mailing list? I sent him an email off-list a week ago, but we're still seeing these. On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:34 AM, Dennis Preus mig_25_fox...@hotmail.com wrote: ...Experiment in your sexual life more! http://www.letm.fr/com.friend.php?ukid_hotmail=03u4 -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re:Don’t doubt! It really works! It can help you right now!
* Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com: Can Dennis be dropped from the mailing list? Should have happened: bug #387401
[gentoo-user] Re: My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!
On 10/16/2011 03:11 PM, Jesús J. Guerrero Botella wrote: I have no idea if the default X pointer theme has changed lately. Yes, gnome-themes-standard just updated to gnome3, which I don't much like. The gnome control center doesn't have any way to set a mouse pointer theme AFAICT, but the optional gcursor package does the job.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: My X11 mouse icons have acquired unwanted borders. Help!
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 05:08:51AM -0700, walt wrote: On 10/16/2011 03:15 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hello, Gentoo! I'm using Gnome 2.32.1 in X11. My mouse pointers have all acquired unwanted borders. That is to say, where there used just to be a solid black arrow, it is now surrounded by a black outline enclosing a white outline around the arrow. I don't like this! I didn't ask for it! I first noticed this problem while starting Firefox. It seemed to hiccup a bit (I think), and then all pointers (in all applications) went bad. I've looked inside Gnome preferences, but can't find a way to change the pointers back. I suspect this is an X setting rather than a Gnome one. Have a look at gnome-extra/gcursor. Just done that. I've installed it, and it gives just four choices, all of which have the border I don't like or (even worse) a shadow. Other than that it gives a file selector, which doesn't seem to be of any use. What I want is to just to get back the plain black icons I had before. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: I got similar errors for some other package on my wife's machine last night. In that case they were solved by using the ~amd64 version of the package. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [11-10-17 18:40]: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: I got similar errors for some other package on my wife's machine last night. In that case they were solved by using the ~amd64 version of the package. - Mark ...and I thought, the credo is dont mix 'em Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [11-10-17 18:40]: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: I got similar errors for some other package on my wife's machine last night. In that case they were solved by using the ~amd64 version of the package. - Mark ...and I thought, the credo is dont mix 'em Unless you know what you're doing, or can avoid annoying someone who does. This is a transition period for libpng, and those are always messy. They're still working on getting things stabilized, as a lot of currently masked versions are the only versions with libpng15 support. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 12:59 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [11-10-17 18:40]: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: I got similar errors for some other package on my wife's machine last night. In that case they were solved by using the ~amd64 version of the package. - Mark ...and I thought, the credo is dont mix 'em Unless you know what you're doing, or can avoid annoying someone who does. This is a transition period for libpng, and those are always messy. They're still working on getting things stabilized, as a lot of currently masked versions are the only versions with libpng15 support. Hm. Actually, there's a phrase someone I know likes to say: There are universal principles, but there are no universal applications. So you shouldn't mix 'em, except when you have to. (Though, if you find you have to, it's probably worthwhile filing a bug asking for a stabilization request.) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:59 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [11-10-17 18:40]: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: I got similar errors for some other package on my wife's machine last night. In that case they were solved by using the ~amd64 version of the package. - Mark ...and I thought, the credo is dont mix 'em Best regards, mcc BTW - It was dev-lang/R that I had this problem with. In general, don't mix 'em. I agree. However things gotta work and there doesn't seem to be a consistent release process so that when the Gentoo devs release a common library as 'stable' they also ensure that _every_ app that uses the library runs with that library. I think that's what's happened here. It's mostly OK, but there are a few things that still point at 1.4, Now, in general, don't mix 'em, but here's my package.keywords file for my compute server:: mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ~amd64 sys-apps/portage ~* app-portage/eix ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox-modules ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox-additions ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox-extpack-oracle ~amd64 x11-drivers/xf86-video-virtualbox ~amd64 x11-drivers/xf86-input-virtualbox ~amd64 app-emulation/vmware-modules ~amd64 app-emulation/vmware-tools ~amd64 app-emulation/vmware-player ~amd64 x11-libs/libview ~amd64 sci-libs/ta-lib ~amd64 sys-power/cpufrequtils ~amd64 media-libs/tiff ~amd64 dev-util/nvidia-cuda-toolkit ~amd64 dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk ~amd64 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~amd64 media-video/nvidia-settings ~amd64 dev-util/codeblocks ~amd64 x11-misc/read-edid ~amd64 net-im/skype ~amd64 app-forensics/chkrootkit ~amd64 dev-lang/R ~amd64 dev-util/kbuild ~amd64 mark@c2stable ~ $ Most of this is due to me wanting newer versions but I think a few may not have stable versions at all, or didn't when I first installed them. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re:Don’t doubt! It really works! It can help you right now!
On Oct 17, 2011 8:50 PM, Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org wrote: * Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com: Can Dennis be dropped from the mailing list? Should have happened: bug #387401 Whoa... never knew you can /dev/null someone through b.g.o ... O_o Can I /dev/null my boss using a locally-installed bugzilla? ;-) Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
On 10/17/11 6:59 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [11-10-17 18:40]: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: I got similar errors for some other package on my wife's machine last night. In that case they were solved by using the ~amd64 version of the package. - Mark ...and I thought, the credo is dont mix 'em Best regards, mcc It is on the way to stable https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=385195 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
On Oct 18, 2011 12:22 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:59 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com [11-10-17 18:40]: On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after updating to lipng15 and rebuilding all needed stuff, fltk and graphicsmagick exhibit build failures: I got similar errors for some other package on my wife's machine last night. In that case they were solved by using the ~amd64 version of the package. - Mark ...and I thought, the credo is dont mix 'em Best regards, mcc BTW - It was dev-lang/R that I had this problem with. In general, don't mix 'em. I agree. However things gotta work and there doesn't seem to be a consistent release process so that when the Gentoo devs release a common library as 'stable' they also ensure that _every_ app that uses the library runs with that library. I think that's what's happened here. It's mostly OK, but there are a few things that still point at 1.4, Now, in general, don't mix 'em, but here's my package.keywords file for my compute server:: mark@c2stable ~ $ cat /etc/portage/package.keywords sys-kernel/gentoo-sources ~amd64 sys-apps/portage ~* app-portage/eix ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox-modules ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox-additions ~amd64 app-emulation/virtualbox-extpack-oracle ~amd64 x11-drivers/xf86-video-virtualbox ~amd64 x11-drivers/xf86-input-virtualbox ~amd64 app-emulation/vmware-modules ~amd64 app-emulation/vmware-tools ~amd64 app-emulation/vmware-player ~amd64 x11-libs/libview ~amd64 sci-libs/ta-lib ~amd64 sys-power/cpufrequtils ~amd64 media-libs/tiff ~amd64 dev-util/nvidia-cuda-toolkit ~amd64 dev-util/nvidia-cuda-sdk ~amd64 x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers ~amd64 media-video/nvidia-settings ~amd64 dev-util/codeblocks ~amd64 x11-misc/read-edid ~amd64 net-im/skype ~amd64 app-forensics/chkrootkit ~amd64 dev-lang/R ~amd64 dev-util/kbuild ~amd64 mark@c2stable ~ $ Most of this is due to me wanting newer versions but I think a few may not have stable versions at all, or didn't when I first installed them. - Mark That seems short ;-) My package.accepted_keyword file is already longer than 80 lines... without X or any GUI :-P I'm such a control freak -.- Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] libpng15: fltk graphicsmagick failed to build
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 11:09 AM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Oct 18, 2011 12:22 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP Now, in general, don't mix 'em, but here's my package.keywords file for my compute server:: SNIP Most of this is due to me wanting newer versions but I think a few may not have stable versions at all, or didn't when I first installed them. - Mark That seems short ;-) My package.accepted_keyword file is already longer than 80 lines... without X or any GUI :-P I'm such a control freak -.- Rgds, Yeah, I imagine for lots of people this list looks short. For Meino it might look huge. In my case all my machines (8 of them) run stable mainly because I like the stability it gives me. I then add only the few ~amd64 things I think I that specific machine needs, and in the case of this thread, a package or two that require babysitting until the devs get caught up. I try to run eix-test-obsolete after every update to catch when they fix things, as in the case of dev-lang/R. When the version I have installed becomes stable I try to remember to remove the corresponding entry from package.keywords, but I don't always remember. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re:Don’t doubt! It really works! It can help you right now!
Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 17, 2011 8:50 PM, Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org mailto:t...@gentoo.org wrote: * Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com mailto:mike...@gmail.com: Can Dennis be dropped from the mailing list? Should have happened: bug #387401 Whoa... never knew you can /dev/null someone through b.g.o ... O_o Can I /dev/null my boss using a locally-installed bugzilla? ;-) Rgds, I did that to my ex. I didn't have to file a bug report either. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?
On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:58:24AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote On 10/13/2011 02:35 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell for some testing. Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Inspiron 530 Well, since you're too busy to use Google, let me do that for you ;-) http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/OM/HTML/appendix.htm The sound chip is a Realtek ALC888. I'm sure this is all the info needed to select the correct driver. Your Google-fu is stronger than mine. I did try Google, but it didn't occur to me to use that specific search. Anyhow, thanks for the info. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
[gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of packages. I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:52:54PM -0500, Dale wrote Or lspci -k would tell what driver the CD was using, if sound worked which I bet it did. That tells me which *DRIVER* is in use (so does lspci -v for that matter). It does *NOT* tell me the *AUDIO CODEC*. lspci -k shows... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device 020d Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
On 10/17/2011 05:07 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of packages. I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? Not really. This is about it: http://blog.jolexa.net/ I complained about the lack of USE flag documentation, life goes on. You can probably do without them set.
[gentoo-user] How to configure eth1:1 ?
I'm trying to configure a second IP address for eth1 using the syntax I found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=2#doc_chap1 But, it doesn't work. Here's my /etc/init.d/net file: config_eth0=192.168.8.4/16 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.0.254 config_eth1=10.0.0.1/8 192.168.250.1/24 But, starting eth1 says: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Bringing up interface eth1 * Starting netplug on eth1 ... [ ok ] * Backgrounding ... * ERROR: net.eth1 failed to start Only eth1 is configured. eth1:1 isn't configured. If I configure the interfaces by hand, it works fine: alpha init.d # ifconfig eth1 10.0.0.1/8 alpha init.d # ifconfig eth1:1 192.168.250.1/24 alpha init.d # ifconfig [...] eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:17:84:a7:b3 inet addr:10.0.0.1 Bcast:10.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:128173 errors:0 dropped:120 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:57741 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:10965596 (10.4 MiB) TX bytes:39773535 (37.9 MiB) Interrupt:20 Base address:0xc000 eth1:1Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:16:17:84:a7:b3 inet addr:192.168.250.1 Bcast:192.168.250.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 Interrupt:20 Base address:0xc000 [...] How do I configure a second IP address for an interface? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I have the power to at HALT PRODUCTION on all gmail.comTEENAGE SEX COMEDIES!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/17/2011 05:07 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of packages. I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? Not really. This is about it: http://blog.jolexa.net/ I complained about the lack of USE flag documentation, life goes on. You can probably do without them set. hehe So who is this Jeremy guy anyway, thinking he'll just change USE flag defaults to make _his_ life easier? ;-) OK, I'm fine with it, and glad to know I wasn't purposely left off the distribution list. I go into a funk and am hard to be around when that happens... ;-) Chaeers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
Mark Knecht writes:
Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild
about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were
showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this
point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf
and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of
packages.
I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there??
There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th:
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Hello,
In a few days, USE={python,perl} will be removed from the profile
defaults. There has been sufficient levels of testing so the impact to
users will be small besides a potentially large number of rebuilds
which should not be a cause for alarm. The end result will be
beneficial for a vast majority of people.
See further reading:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/msg_ae405bb743eeda9dc66773998ee50759.xml
Thanks,
Jeremy
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It has also been discussed a little here, at least in the 'tabbed
x11-terms/rxvt-unicode' thread. But that only deals with some
implications of the flag removal, not so much about why they have been
removed. I think.
Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Michael Orlitzkymich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/17/2011 05:07 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of packages. I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? Not really. This is about it: http://blog.jolexa.net/ I complained about the lack of USE flag documentation, life goes on. You can probably do without them set. hehe So who is this Jeremy guy anyway, thinking he'll just change USE flag defaults to make _his_ life easier? ;-) OK, I'm fine with it, and glad to know I wasn't purposely left off the distribution list. I go into a funk and am hard to be around when that happens... ;-) Chaeers, Mark I disabled mine a while back. I had only one package that I had to add it back in package.use. As far as I can tell, everything works fine. Package you wonder: app-mobilephone/gammu python May want to think about removing them, if it interests you. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure eth1:1 ?
On 2011-10-17, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to configure a second IP address for eth1 using the syntax I found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=2#doc_chap1 But, it doesn't work. Here's my /etc/init.d/net file: config_eth0=192.168.8.4/16 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.0.254 config_eth1=10.0.0.1/8 192.168.250.1/24 But, starting eth1 says: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Bringing up interface eth1 * Starting netplug on eth1 ... [ ok ] * Backgrounding ... * ERROR: net.eth1 failed to start Only eth1 is configured. eth1:1 isn't configured. I disabled netplug for both interfaces, and that got rid of the error message: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Bringing up interface eth1 * 10.0.0.1/8 ... [ ok ] * 192.168.250.1/24 ...[ ok ] Now I can ping addresses in the 192.168.250/24 subnet. However, I still don't see eth1:1 in netstat output the way that I do when I manually configure it. According TFM, eth1:1 should have been created for the second address. What gives? How do you see the second IP address that's configured for an interface if ifconfig won't show it to you? -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I own seven-eighths of at all the artists in downtown gmail.comBurbank!
Re: [gentoo-user] How to configure eth1:1 ?
Am 17.10.2011 23:25, schrieb Grant Edwards: I'm trying to configure a second IP address for eth1 using the syntax I found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=2#doc_chap1 But, it doesn't work. Here's my /etc/init.d/net file: config_eth0=192.168.8.4/16 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.0.254 config_eth1=10.0.0.1/8 192.168.250.1/24 But, starting eth1 says: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Bringing up interface eth1 * Starting netplug on eth1 ... [ ok ] * Backgrounding ... * ERROR: net.eth1 failed to start Only eth1 is configured. eth1:1 isn't configured. eth1 is the second physical interface (which you don't have). From /usr/share/doc/openrc-0.8.3-r1/net.example.bz2 # If you need more than one address, you can use something like this # NOTE: ifconfig creates an aliased device for each extra IPv4 address # (eth0:1, eth0:2, etc) # iproute2 does not do this as there is no need to config_eth0=192.168.0.2/24 192.168.0.3/24 192.168.0.4/24 # However, that only works with CIDR addresses, so you can't use # netmask. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to configure eth1:1 ?
Am 17.10.2011 23:42, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 17.10.2011 23:25, schrieb Grant Edwards: I'm trying to configure a second IP address for eth1 using the syntax I found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=2#doc_chap1 But, it doesn't work. Here's my /etc/init.d/net file: config_eth0=192.168.8.4/16 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.0.254 config_eth1=10.0.0.1/8 192.168.250.1/24 But, starting eth1 says: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Bringing up interface eth1 * Starting netplug on eth1 ... [ ok ] * Backgrounding ... * ERROR: net.eth1 failed to start Only eth1 is configured. eth1:1 isn't configured. eth1 is the second physical interface (which you don't have). From /usr/share/doc/openrc-0.8.3-r1/net.example.bz2 # If you need more than one address, you can use something like this # NOTE: ifconfig creates an aliased device for each extra IPv4 address # (eth0:1, eth0:2, etc) # iproute2 does not do this as there is no need to config_eth0=192.168.0.2/24 192.168.0.3/24 192.168.0.4/24 # However, that only works with CIDR addresses, so you can't use # netmask. Regards, Florian Philipp Ugh, sorry. Just ignore that. I didn't see the second line in config_eth1. The odd quoting confused me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
Mark Knecht writes:
Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild
about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were
showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this
point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf
and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of
packages.
I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there??
There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th:
--
Hello,
In a few days, USE={python,perl} will be removed from the profile
defaults. There has been sufficient levels of testing so the impact to
users will be small besides a potentially large number of rebuilds
which should not be a cause for alarm. The end result will be
beneficial for a vast majority of people.
See further reading:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/msg_ae405bb743eeda9dc66773998ee50759.xml
Thanks,
Jeremy
--
It has also been discussed a little here, at least in the 'tabbed
x11-terms/rxvt-unicode' thread. But that only deals with some
implications of the flag removal, not so much about why they have been
removed. I think.
Wonko
Interesting. I guess I'm no longer subscribed 'cause I haven't seen a
message from there in months. I'll go resubscribe.
Cheers,
Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure eth1:1 ?
On 2011-10-17, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-10-17, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to configure a second IP address for eth1 using the syntax I found at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=4chap=2#doc_chap1 But, it doesn't work. Here's my /etc/init.d/net file: config_eth0=192.168.8.4/16 routes_eth0=default via 192.168.0.254 config_eth1=10.0.0.1/8 192.168.250.1/24 But, starting eth1 says: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Bringing up interface eth1 * Starting netplug on eth1 ... [ ok ] * Backgrounding ... * ERROR: net.eth1 failed to start Only eth1 is configured. eth1:1 isn't configured. I disabled netplug for both interfaces, and that got rid of the error message: # /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start * Bringing up interface eth1 * 10.0.0.1/8 ... [ ok ] * 192.168.250.1/24 ...[ ok ] Now I can ping addresses in the 192.168.250/24 subnet. However, I still don't see eth1:1 in netstat output the way that I do when I manually configure it. According TFM, eth1:1 should have been created for the second address. What gives? OK, I think I've figured it out. The startup system is using iproute2 instead of ifconfig. The manual says that ifconfig is the default, and I don't see anywhere where I've overridden it, but the manual also says that if I were using ifconfig I'd have an eth1:1 device. Iproute2 knows how to assign multiple IP address to an interface without creating multiple devices, and using the ip command shows the second address: $ /sbin/ip address show [...] 3: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:16:17:84:a7:b3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.0.1/8 brd 10.255.255.255 scope global eth1 inet 192.168.250.1/24 brd 192.168.250.255 scope global eth1 [...] Still haven't figured out where iproute2 is getting enabled instead of the default ifconfig -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Gibble, Gobble, we at ACCEPT YOU ... gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Re: How to configure eth1:1 ?
On 2011-10-17, Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: Ugh, sorry. Just ignore that. I didn't see the second line in config_eth1. The odd quoting confused me. Sorry about that. I was trying various quoting schemes I'd found in examples. My current configuration works: modules_eth0=( !plug ) config_eth0=( 192.168.8.4/16 ) routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.0.254 ) modules_eth1=( !plug ) config_eth1=( 10.0.0.1/8 192.168.250.1/24 ) $ /sbin/ip address show 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:1b:21:b1:d1:e9 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.8.4/16 brd 192.168.255.255 scope global eth0 3: eth1: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:16:17:84:a7:b3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 10.0.0.1/8 brd 10.255.255.255 scope global eth1 inet 192.168.250.1/24 brd 192.168.250.255 scope global eth1 4: eth2: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000 link/ether 00:18:e7:08:20:33 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff And the lack of eth1:1 is presumably explained if the system is using the iproute2 module instead of the ifconfig module. My current theory is that iproute2 is getting used because I have openvpn installed with the iproute2 use flag. [I'm not actually using openvpn, but it's still istalled from a couple years ago when I was using it.] Yes, I know that the /24 subnet defined by the second eth1 address overlaps the /16 subnet defined by the eth0 address. For historical reasons, 192.168.250.nnn is on eth1, and 192.168.everything-but-250.nnn is on eth0. And eth2 is used only by a VM client OS. Yea, it's a messy, but it's still easier than using 4 different machines -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I appoint you at ambassador to Fantasy gmail.comIsland!!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 16:58, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:58:24AM +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote On 10/13/2011 02:35 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell for some testing. Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Inspiron 530 Well, since you're too busy to use Google, let me do that for you ;-) http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/OM/HTML/appendix.htm The sound chip is a Realtek ALC888. I'm sure this is all the info needed to select the correct driver. Your Google-fu is stronger than mine. I did try Google, but it didn't occur to me to use that specific search. Anyhow, thanks for the info. snd_hda_codec_realtek on kernel =2.6.31
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
Mark Knecht writes: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes: I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th: [...] Interesting. I guess I'm no longer subscribed 'cause I haven't seen a message from there in months. I'll go resubscribe. The list has been quite dead since June, then came the posting I quoted, and since October 8th there were some 15 GLSA postings. So it's a good resource again now. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl python?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes: I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th: [...] Interesting. I guess I'm no longer subscribed 'cause I haven't seen a message from there in months. I'll go resubscribe. The list has been quite dead since June, then came the posting I quoted, and since October 8th there were some 15 GLSA postings. So it's a good resource again now. Wonko Good to know. I've gotten so used to getting important stuff via eselect news read that I'm a bit surprised they didn't push a message out about this. None the less, thanks for the info! Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 10:52:54PM -0500, Dale wrote Or lspci -k would tell what driver the CD was using, if sound worked which I bet it did. That tells me which *DRIVER* is in use (so does lspci -v for that matter). It does *NOT* tell me the *AUDIO CODEC*. lspci -k shows... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device 020d Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel Yeah, the intel_hda system is pretty funky. My understanding is that the API is essentially a programmable plugboard connecting the various DSPs on the chip, and that the codec is a mapping of which pins connect to which. Kinda neat, actually. You'd think someone clever would try expressing that interface more intuitively to the user. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] zram / compcache, anyone?
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Just stumbled upon this blog: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html anyone got any experience with zram/compcache on Gentoo? I'm using zram in a gentoo server with only 256mb of RAM, only used for a few weeks so far. It seems to work and the server hasn't crashed yet. :) I have allocated 128MB of compressed swap (64x2, actually, to theoretically utilize both CPU cores for compression at the same time) followed by normal on-disk swap at lower priority. Usually my total swap used is less than 128MB so the real disk swap is rarely touched. It's difficult to say if there is any improved performance, but I haven't experienced any slowdown, which occasionally I did when swap became heavily used in the past. Keep in mind the 128MB zram is the uncompressed size, so the actual amount of RAM used by this should be much less, depending on contents of the swap. Some even recommend using zram equal to the amount of RAM but that idea scares me. After enabling the CONFIG_ZRAM module in kernel 3.0.6, I did this: modprobe zram num_devices=2 echo $((64*1024*1024)) /sys/block/zram0/disksize echo 1 /sys/block/zram0/reset mkswap /dev/zram0 swapon -p 11 /dev/zram0 (repeat for /dev/zram1 and so on) you can then swapoff your disk swap partition to empty it, then swapon with lower priority than the zram swap devices. Also note that zram is really just a generic compressed RAM drive. You don't have to use it for swap, you can mkfs anything you like onto it, to use as compressed tmp space or whatever... just know that it'll be gone when you reboot. I think zram can be beneficial in an environment where CPU power is plentiful but RAM needs to be conserved (i.e. fitting more virtual servers onto one physical box). I seem to recall there is a way for a virtual host to utilize zram automatically/transparently for the virtualized guests, but I don't personally know anything about that.
Re: [gentoo-user] zram / compcache, anyone?
Am 18.10.2011 07:16, schrieb Paul Hartman: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Just stumbled upon this blog: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html anyone got any experience with zram/compcache on Gentoo? I'm using zram in a gentoo server with only 256mb of RAM, only used for a few weeks so far. It seems to work and the server hasn't crashed yet. :) I have allocated 128MB of compressed swap (64x2, actually, to theoretically utilize both CPU cores for compression at the same time) followed by normal on-disk swap at lower priority. Usually my total swap used is less than 128MB so the real disk swap is rarely touched. It's difficult to say if there is any improved performance, but I haven't experienced any slowdown, which occasionally I did when swap became heavily used in the past. Keep in mind the 128MB zram is the uncompressed size, so the actual amount of RAM used by this should be much less, depending on contents of the swap. Some even recommend using zram equal to the amount of RAM but that idea scares me. After enabling the CONFIG_ZRAM module in kernel 3.0.6, I did this: modprobe zram num_devices=2 echo $((64*1024*1024)) /sys/block/zram0/disksize echo 1 /sys/block/zram0/reset # sleep 1 mkswap /dev/zram0 swapon -p 11 /dev/zram0 In my experience, it can be necessary to put a `sleep 1` between reset and mkswap because the /dev/zram0 disappears and reappears after the reset command. Another remark: The kernel docs recommend using /bin/echo instead of echo because problems are reported as write errors and the echo builtin of bash doesn't check for that. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
