Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome-control-center any way to configure without pulseaudio?

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:08:26 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: Remember arts and esd? They went the way of HAL. Nuff said. The thing to remember is that humans cannot multitask audio very well. Have you ever been talking to someone when the fire alarm went off? Then you'd realise we can multitask

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thu, January 26, 2012 8:16 am, Dale wrote: Hi list, I ran across this news item about Google: http://alturl.com/s7xi5 The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with. Next they will want a camera

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mathurin
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Hi list, I ran across this news item about Google: http://alturl.com/s7xi5 The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with. Next they will want a camera on my rig

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 01:16:01AM -0600, Dale wrote I'm sort of getting tired of switching emails every time I switch ISPs or there is a policy change. That is why I switched to gmail in the first place. No matter what ISP I use, I can still use Gmail. Yet, here I am again. Years ago,

[gentoo-user] OT: Managing Wifi-APs

2012-01-26 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
What do you guys use to manage access to your company's Wifi? I got to research how to provide access for the customers of my client, people waiting for getting their cars fixed ... It should be easy to provide them with access while on the other hand it should be loggable, controllable, etc.

[gentoo-user] Clicking on URLs in kmail-1.13.7 launches libreoffice

2012-01-26 Thread Mick
Over the last couple of weeks I noticed that when I click on a URL in an email I get libreoffice launching a few seconds after Konqueror has opened up the URL. I think this started happening after the recent update of KDE to 4.7.4 and after the initial what the ... it is now becoming annoying.

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 08:48:28 Michael Mathurin wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Hi list, I ran across this news item about Google: http://alturl.com/s7xi5 The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google since they seem to be doing things that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome-control-center any way to configure without pulseaudio?

2012-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:08:26 -0500 Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: An answer from a different Walter G... I also don't use pulse - plain ALSA is good enough for me - but looking over the design goals for pulseaudio I see a decent attempt to deal with audio properly for the

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:07:51 +, Mick wrote: BTW, it seems to me that if you access youtube and at the same time search Google without being logged in to any of their portals, they will not be tracking your email for user profiling purposes. They may be logging IP addresses but it could

[gentoo-user] advice about Gentoo (Oracle, Java, VMWare...)

2012-01-26 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
Hi all, I have been a former user, and in my new occupation I think Gentoo could be a perfect tool. Context - I admin a server for PHP and Java Web developers - I have to run a Gentoo host which have LXC guests (also Gentoo-only). - About the LXC guests -- 1 LXC guest with PHP4 (with custom

[gentoo-user] xorg on ppc64

2012-01-26 Thread Roger Mason
Helllo, I have installed xorg-server on a mac G5 (ppc64, 32 bit userland). I configured the kernel for xorg according to the gentoo xorg howto. However, the server will not start: (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Jan 26 08:57:27 2012 (==) Using system config directory

[gentoo-user] Re: advice about Gentoo (Oracle, Java, VMWare...)

2012-01-26 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 01/26/2012 02:05 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: But... - Installing Oracle's Java is not so easy: http://goo.gl/tbBFW This isn't Java. To install Oracle's Java on Gentoo, simply emerge dev-java/oracle-jdk-bin and you're set.

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Timo Briddigkeit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/26/2012 08:16 AM, Dale wrote: Hi list, I ran across this news item about Google: http://alturl.com/s7xi5 The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 11:33:14 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:07:51 +, Mick wrote: BTW, it seems to me that if you access youtube and at the same time search Google without being logged in to any of their portals, they will not be tracking your email for user profiling

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread John J. Foster
Dale - I've been using Fastmail since 2005. Absolutely no issues at all. I do pay for the enhanced account. Good luck festus On Thu, Jan 26, 2012, at 01:16 AM, Dale wrote: Hi list, I ran across this news item about Google: http://alturl.com/s7xi5 The long URL is below. I'm sort of

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 12:56:49 +, Mick wrote: They can track a lot more than IP addresses, your browser can provide a lot of information, not just user-agent but installed fonts, plugin information and much more. There is enough to do a damn good job of identifying you even when your IP

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Dale
John J. Foster wrote: Dale - I've been using Fastmail since 2005. Absolutely no issues at all. I do pay for the enhanced account. Good luck festus Do they allow encrypted messages too? I looked at the help pages and I'm pretty sure it does. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Hampicke
There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that showed you how much it could glean from even an anonymous session, but I can't remember where is was. Somewhere like the EFF. I guess you mean

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote: There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that showed you how much it could glean from even an anonymous session, but I can't remember

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 13:50:46 Neil Bothwick wrote: Not that Google's profiling of individual's information is that hot anyway. Last year they approached me about a job for which I am completely unqualified - and not just because it meant getting out of bed before 9am :-O Ha, ha! A very

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Dale
Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote: There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that showed you how much it could glean from even an anonymous session,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: advice about Gentoo (Oracle, Java, VMWare...)

2012-01-26 Thread Andrés Becerra Sandoval
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote: On 01/26/2012 02:05 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: But... - Installing Oracle's Java is not so easy: http://goo.gl/tbBFW This isn't Java. To install Oracle's Java on Gentoo, simply emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote: There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] IPv6 usage patterns (static, DHCPv6, RA, mDNS, ?)

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: As you may have gathered from my posts yesterday, I'm working on adding IPv6 to an embedded device (actually a family of serial device servers). I've got the device working fine with link-local addressing, but I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:12:43 +, Mick wrote: Not that Google's profiling of individual's information is that hot anyway. Last year they approached me about a job for which I am completely unqualified - and not just because it meant getting out of bed before 9am :-O Ha, ha! A very

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:05:25 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that showed you how much it could glean from even an anonymous session, but I can't remember where is was.

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread John J. Foster
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012, at 07:59 AM, Dale wrote: John J. Foster wrote: Dale - I've been using Fastmail since 2005. Absolutely no issues at all. I do pay for the enhanced account. Good luck festus Do they allow encrypted messages too? I looked at the help pages and I'm pretty

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:05:25 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that showed you how much it could

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread John J. Foster
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012, at 08:22 AM, John J. Foster wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012, at 07:59 AM, Dale wrote: John J. Foster wrote: Dale - I've been using Fastmail since 2005. Absolutely no issues at all. I do pay for the enhanced account. Good luck festus Do they allow

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:34:56AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: I guess you mean https://panopticlick.eff.org/ My results from work: Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,939,102 tested so far. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 07:59:57AM -0600, Dale wrote: John J. Foster wrote: Dale - I've been using Fastmail since 2005. Absolutely no issues at all. I do pay for the enhanced account. Good luck festus Do they allow encrypted messages too? I looked at the help pages and I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I guess you mean https://panopticlick.eff.org/ My results from work: Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,939,102 tested so far. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:34:56AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: I guess you mean https://panopticlick.eff.org/ My results from work: Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,939,102 tested so

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: I guess you mean https://panopticlick.eff.org/ My results from work: Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,939,102

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Hampicke
Within our dataset of visitors, one in 0 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys INF bits of identifying information. I think I broke it. I win? :) Sweet, panopticlick.eff.org got gentoo'd :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 16:04:45 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:34:56AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: I guess you mean https://panopticlick.eff.org/ My results from work: Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 1,939,102 tested so far.

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread James Broadhead
On 26 January 2012 16:18, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote:     Within our dataset of visitors, one in 0 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours.     Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys INF bits of identifying information. I think I broke

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:16 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: The long URL is below.  I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with.  Next they will want a camera on my rig so they can watch me surf. To be honest, I already

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome-control-center any way to configure without pulseaudio?

2012-01-26 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:  An answer from a different Walter G... I also don't use pulse - plain ALSA is good enough for me - but looking over the design goals for pulseaudio I see a decent attempt to deal with audio properly for the future.

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Lorenzo Bandieri
Me, I use Chromium for using social media sites or Google services that I want to log-in to. Google+, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn. I don't use it for anything else. I use Firefox for everything else. I am not logged into any of those services in Firefox. I use RequestPolicy to block all

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 17:11:39 Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: Me, I use Chromium for using social media sites or Google services that I want to log-in to. Google+, Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn. I don't use it for anything else. I use Firefox for everything else. I am not logged into any of

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Lorenzo Bandieri lorenzo.bandi...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe slightly OT, but what do gentoo-users think about Tor? As an anonymising proxy, in my opinion, I consider it to be the most hostile network one could ever use. I would only use Tor from within a virtual

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.01.2012 11:07, schrieb Mick: On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 08:48:28 Michael Mathurin wrote: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Hi list, I ran across this news item about Google: http://alturl.com/s7xi5 The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google since they

RE: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mike Edenfield
From: Frank Steinmetzger [mailto:war...@gmx.de] Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:05 AM This backs me up in using noscript and flashblock. Sometimes I doubt myself when I get asked once more why I would use NoScript in times when most of the web relies on JS. I then say that privacy and

Re: [gentoo-user] Clicking on URLs in kmail-1.13.7 launches libreoffice

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 26. Januar 2012, 09:18:03 schrieb Mick: Over the last couple of weeks I noticed that when I click on a URL in an email I get libreoffice launching a few seconds after Konqueror has opened up the URL. I think this started happening after the recent update of KDE to 4.7.4 and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome-control-center any way to configure without pulseaudio?

2012-01-26 Thread pk
On 2012-01-26 12:22, Alan McKinnon wrote: I'm not opening up a debate and preparing an argument, I really want to know what you think about this matter. I apologize for butting in... Here's what *I* think about it (well, this is not about Pulseaudio specifically but I'm sure you'll get the

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Mick
On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 18:09:16 Florian Philipp wrote: This made me thinking: Does anyone out there use different browsers for different services? Like using Chrome only for GMail, Youtube and G+, Opera for Facebook and Firefox for normal browsing? Yes, I use Chromium --incognito to check

Re: [gentoo-user] Clicking on URLs in kmail-1.13.7 launches libreoffice

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 26. Januar 2012, 09:18:03 schrieb Mick: Over the last couple of weeks I noticed that when I click on a URL in an email I get libreoffice launching a few seconds after Konqueror has opened up the URL.

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 18:09:16 Florian Philipp wrote: This made me thinking: Does anyone out there use different browsers for different services? Like using Chrome only for GMail, Youtube and G+, Opera for Facebook and

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 26 Jan 2012 18:09:16 Florian Philipp wrote: This made me thinking: Does anyone out there use different browsers for different services? Like

Re: [gentoo-user] Clicking on URLs in kmail-1.13.7 launches libreoffice

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Donnerstag, 26. Januar 2012, 14:51:45 schrieb Michael Mol: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: Am Donnerstag, 26. Januar 2012, 09:18:03 schrieb Mick: Over the last couple of weeks I noticed that when I click on a URL in an email I get

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 12:16, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:05 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote: There is actually a huge amount of information available, giving a high level of pseudo-uniqueness. There was a web site that

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:52:47 -0500, Michael Mol wrote: I guess you could achieve the same using different user profiles. For example `firefox --no-remote -P google` and `firefox --no-remote -P default`. Ha!  I didn't know that FF can handle different profiles!  I better read on this

[gentoo-user] weird problem with missing docs during emerge

2012-01-26 Thread Davide Carnovale
Hi all, a few days ago i had to reinstall my gentoo box. while doing so, various ebuilds failed while trying to copy some documentation. I don't have the doc use flag enabled, so i found it weird that emerge was looking for it. My temporary fix was to enable the doc flag on a per package basis,

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 15:12:39 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:12:43 +, Mick wrote: Not that Google's profiling of individual's information is that hot anyway. Last year they approached me about a job for which I am completely unqualified - and

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Hampicke
My first reaction was, why would Google need a CV from me, surely they already know more about me than my mother does? Clearly they don't. Of course they do! They just wanted you to confirm what they know about you. Who knows, maybe you lied when you posted a story on facebook where you told

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 26 Jan 2012 22:47:18 +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote: My first reaction was, why would Google need a CV from me, surely they already know more about me than my mother does? Clearly they don't. Of course they do! They just wanted you to confirm what they know about you. Who knows,

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 07:59:57AM -0600, Dale wrote: John J. Foster wrote: Dale - I've been using Fastmail since 2005. Absolutely no issues at all. I do pay for the enhanced account. Good luck festus Do they allow encrypted messages too? I looked at the help

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread William Kenworthy
On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 11:14 -0500, Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:34:56AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: I guess you mean https://panopticlick.eff.org/ My results from work: Your browser

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 26 January 2012 21:29:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: I've been contacted, and interviewed by phone, by Google TWICE. Both times the person said straight up they read gentoo-users shrug I was contacted too, but I think they were swayed by my sig. Anyway, no further contact once I told

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Michael Mol
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:38 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Thu, 2012-01-26 at 11:14 -0500, Michael Mol wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:34:56AM -0500, Michael Mol wrote: I guess you mean

[gentoo-user] OT: Lightweight commandline flatfile database

2012-01-26 Thread Walter Dnes
Rather than keep music on my hard drive, I'm going the cloud route by keeping a list of my favourite Youtube clips. Ideally, I'd like something that I can activate from the command line, and even launch Firefox. sqlite is overkill in terms of features/size. Is there something smaller. It

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: advice about Gentoo (Oracle, Java, VMWare...)

2012-01-26 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby
On 01/26/2012 03:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Installing Oracle's Java is not so easy: http://goo.gl/tbBFW This isn't Java. Yes, sorry, this is not Java, it's Oracle DB, but I'll have to setup an Oracle database too. Is it really that complicated for that particular software? -- RMA.

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Graham Murray
James Broadhead jamesbroadh...@gmail.com writes: I wouldn't find it at all surprising if gentoo systems came out pretty unique; no standard set of fonts, for example. So maybe if you change your fonts regularly it might not be able to track you - thinking that you are actually multiple

Re: [gentoo-user] Google privacy changes

2012-01-26 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: Hi list, I ran across this news item about Google: http://alturl.com/s7xi5 The long URL is below. I'm sort of getting to where I don't like Google since they seem to be doing things that I'm just not comfy with. Next they will want a camera on my rig so they can watch me

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: advice about Gentoo (Oracle, Java, VMWare...)

2012-01-26 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:19:38 +0300 Mihamina Rakotomandimby miham...@rktmb.org wrote: On 01/26/2012 03:33 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Installing Oracle's Java is not so easy: http://goo.gl/tbBFW This isn't Java. Yes, sorry, this is not Java, it's Oracle DB, but I'll have to setup an