Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:45:55PM +0100, Stroller wrote I'm sceptical over the benefits of upgrading a 4 year old PC (short of ripping most all the guts out and starting again). I know the industry has currently settled on PCIe, but haven't bus speeds increased in the last 4 years? Are all

Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 1:11 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:  I've posted a snapshot of the Dell's internals on my ISP's personal webspace at http://clients.teksavvy.com/~walterdnes/misc/dell2.jpg  Is the long black slot PCIe?  What's the short black slot? If you look closely,

Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Apr 11, 2012 1:15 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:45:55PM +0100, Stroller wrote I'm sceptical over the benefits of upgrading a 4 year old PC (short of ripping most all the guts out and starting again). I know the industry has currently settled on

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome without PulseAudio?

2012-04-11 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Hi there! Recently, PulseAudio got installed. Seems like gnome-settings-daemon version 3 no longer has the pulseaudio use flag, so it wants pulseaudio, which needs

Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 02:11:35 schrieb Walter Dnes: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:45:55PM +0100, Stroller wrote I'm sceptical over the benefits of upgrading a 4 year old PC (short of ripping most

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 11.04.2012 18:10, schrieb Silvio Siefke: Hello, On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:53:22 +0200 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: It's a Linux-VServer. In this setup, all virtual private servers share the kernel of the host system (It's like a glorified chroot). You don't need grub. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 06:53:22 +0200 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: It's a Linux-VServer. In this setup, all virtual private servers share the kernel of the host system (It's like a glorified chroot). You don't need grub. The host system calls /sbin/init. I've followed this

Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 02:11:35 schrieb Walter Dnes: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:45:55PM +0100, Stroller wrote I'm sceptical over the benefits of upgrading a 4 year old PC (short of ripping most all the guts out and starting again). I know the industry has currently settled on PCIe,

Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 13:51:28 schrieb Pandu Poluan: On Apr 11, 2012 1:15 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 06:45:55PM +0100, Stroller wrote I'm sceptical over the benefits of upgrading a 4 year old PC (short of ripping most all the guts out

Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 11.04.2012 18:33, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 13:51:28 schrieb Pandu Poluan: [...] But the main point would be that the newest graphics cards are all released in PCIe version only, and future mobos will all support PCIe, so it's a future-safe investment.

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Sebastian Beßler
On 11.04.2012 01:14, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: i have Vserver from Strato. I want installed Gentoo, because i like Gentoo. I have found two Howtos, but what i not really understand, what is with the Kernel and Grub, i can nothing read there. Or understand i something wrong? Be aware that

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads up, remote root vulnerability discovered in Samba

2012-04-11 Thread Jeff Horelick
On 10 April 2012 23:56, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: Samba versions 3.6.3 and all versions previous to this are affected by a vulnerability that allows remote code execution as the root user from an anonymous connection. As this does not require an authenticated

Re: [gentoo-user] PCI video cards, hardware accel, upported by open-source drivers?

2012-04-11 Thread Stroller
On 11 April 2012, at 17:33, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I've posted a snapshot of the Dell's internals on my ISP's personal webspace at http://clients.teksavvy.com/~walterdnes/misc/dell2.jpg Is the long black slot PCIe? What's the short black slot? The long black slot looks like PCIe.

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:58:15 +0200 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote: This is my /etc/conf.d/net (of course you have to adapt subnets): modules=iproute2 modules=!ifconfig config_venet0=83.169.5.6/32 broadcast 0.0.0.0 routes_venet0=191.255.255.1/32 scope link default

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome without PulseAudio?

2012-04-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.04.2012 07:29, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: http://arunraghavan.net/2012/02/gentoo-pulseaudio-alsa-update/ Damn, I read Gentoo Universe and I totally missed that. Cool, thanks, I will remove the config file. Removed that one long ago, but went through masking and unmasking pulseaudio

[gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Just being curious: I use my main workstation primarily for work. Ok, gnome3 needs some graphic acceleration, aside from that I can only think of the occasional mythfrontend running on my desktop. I consider to chose nouveau drivers instead of the nvidia-drivers-package. What are your

[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/04/12 23:38, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Just being curious: I use my main workstation primarily for work. Ok, gnome3 needs some graphic acceleration, aside from that I can only think of the occasional mythfrontend running on my desktop. I consider to chose nouveau drivers instead of

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread ny6p01
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 10:38:50PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Just being curious: I use my main workstation primarily for work. Ok, gnome3 needs some graphic acceleration, aside from that I can only think of the occasional mythfrontend running on my desktop. I consider to

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Alecks Gates
The only reason I really use nvidia-drivers is because of VDPAU. Otherwise I can't watch HD videos on my media center. VDPAU works great, and I hope nouveau supports it or something equivalent eventually. Mythtv probably uses it, though that's just a guess. Alecks Gates, sent from Android on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.04.2012 23:14, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: What are your recommendations? Unless you need to use the console (nvidia-drivers don't provide a KMS fb console,) there's no reason to use Nouveau at the moment. The binary drivers perform better and save much more energy. With Nouveau,

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment on the nvidia drivers since I've never tried them. Nouveau works well enough

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.04.2012 23:14, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Unless you need to use the console (nvidia-drivers don't provide a KMS fb console,) there's no reason to use Nouveau at the moment. The binary drivers perform better and save much more energy. With Nouveau, your GPU will be running full-on

Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome without PulseAudio?

2012-04-11 Thread Alex Schuster
Canek Peláez Valdés writes: On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés writes: If it would just work, then I could make my players use it if they don't already. But what about old applications like Quake3, will they still work? Of

Re: [gentoo-user] nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:16, schrieb ny6...@gmail.com: I use the nouveau drivers because they update themselves when you update the kernel, and there's less work involved in keeping everything up to date. But I can't comment

[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 12/04/12 00:29, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:14, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: What are your recommendations? Unless you need to use the console (nvidia-drivers don't provide a KMS fb console,) there's no reason to use Nouveau at the moment. The binary drivers perform better

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, so im step by step near to run gentoo. I think the prob is the network config. The rc.log - http://nopaste.info/443b0bc302.html So it seems so that gentoo start perfectly, but ping give no answers. root@h2025095:~# ip addr 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 11.04.2012 23:38, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Note however that it's not obvious which version of nvidia-drivers to use. NVidia provides various different series of drivers. The drivers are versioned 96.*, 173.* and 295.*, and each version series is intended for different cards. If you

[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 12/04/12 00:32, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:14, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Unless you need to use the console (nvidia-drivers don't provide a KMS fb console,) there's no reason to use Nouveau at the moment. The binary drivers perform better and save much more energy. With

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:29:48 +0200 Sebastian Beßler sebast...@darkmetatron.de wrote: Be aware that you are then using Gentoo on a shared server and that you will have great impact on the performance of the other users on the host if your are not careful. Yes thats right, it more traffic on

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Silvio Siefke siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: I was once contacted from strato because of the high load I put on the server but then I changed /var/tmp/portage to tmpfs and added PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 PORTAGE_IONICE_COMMAND=ionice -c 3 -p \${PID} Ok its great

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/04/12 00:32, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:14, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Unless you need to use the console (nvidia-drivers don't provide a KMS fb console,) there's no reason to use Nouveau at the moment. The binary drivers perform better and

[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 12/04/12 01:55, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/04/12 00:32, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 11.04.2012 23:14, schrieb Nikos Chantziaras: Unless you need to use the console (nvidia-drivers don't provide a KMS fb console,) there's no reason to use Nouveau at the moment. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/04/12 01:55, Dale wrote: Somewhat related question. I use the Nvidia drivers here and have not had any issues in a while. How does one use VESA if the Nvidia drivers fail? One used to change it in xorg.conf but most don't have a xorg.conf any more. You

[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia-drivers vs. nouveau

2012-04-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 12/04/12 02:43, Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/04/12 01:55, Dale wrote: Somewhat related question. I use the Nvidia drivers here and have not had any issues in a while. How does one use VESA if the Nvidia drivers fail? One used to change it in xorg.conf but most don't have a

Re: [gentoo-user] Openvz Vserver

2012-04-11 Thread Silvio Siefke
Hello, so i has 3 times try to run gentoo and now run it on my vserver. Thx for help and all nice new day. Regards Silvio