Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet?

2012-12-21 Thread Mark David Dumlao
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Kevin Chadwick ma1l1i...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 05:46:33 +0800
 Mark David Dumlao madum...@gmail.com wrote:

 
  A concensus would be good. A right consensus is more likely to get a
  consensus. This has no bearing on the matters at hand.

 /usr as the default prefix for installed packages is the consensus
 of the vast majority of packages out there. Why do you think this has
 no bearing on their consideration?

 I'm just pointing out that despite what many seem to state there are
 losses and unclear/non forth coming positive reasons or real benefits
 to the current apparently to be imposed or your doomed consensus of
 consolidating data. Once your at multi-user the whole filesystem is one
 for all intensive purposes anyway and so much of what you have said is
 misleading. It really shouldn't be a difficult problem to fix, it is
 just data after all.

I'm having trouble understanding the whole paragraph - my English
parser must have been broken with my last emerge -uDNtav world. I'd
revdep-rebuild, but my /usr is on nfs and rebuilding the binaries
there would break them for the other shared clients. ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 21.12.2012 06:13, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?
 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.
+1

Works good with (user)groups, important modules are well integrated into
each other (f.e.: you can link objects from address book, file manager
or project manager to a calendar entry as an attachment), easy to
install, fine granular permission system, sync through carddav, ical,
caldav, webdav works, but feels kind of limited, activesync only in
commercial version, works also with php-fcgi, devs help in community forum.



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, December 21, 2012 11:33:49 AM Daniel Troeder wrote:
 On 21.12.2012 06:13, J. Roeleveld wrote:
  Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?
  
  Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.
 
 +1
 
 Works good with (user)groups, important modules are well integrated into
 each other (f.e.: you can link objects from address book, file manager
 or project manager to a calendar entry as an attachment), easy to
 install, fine granular permission system, sync through carddav, ical,
 caldav, webdav works, but feels kind of limited, activesync only in
 commercial version, works also with php-fcgi, devs help in community forum.

Syncml works as well with the synthesis client on my Android phone.
The lack of activesync makes me consider the commercial version, but that's 
not for this year yet.

--
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread Daniel Troeder
On 21.12.2012 12:19, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 On Friday, December 21, 2012 11:33:49 AM Daniel Troeder wrote:
 On 21.12.2012 06:13, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?

 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.

 +1

 Works good with (user)groups, important modules are well integrated into
 each other (f.e.: you can link objects from address book, file manager
 or project manager to a calendar entry as an attachment), easy to
 install, fine granular permission system, sync through carddav, ical,
 caldav, webdav works, but feels kind of limited, activesync only in
 commercial version, works also with php-fcgi, devs help in community forum.
 
 Syncml works as well with the synthesis client on my Android phone.
hmm... nice... a question:
If a calendar entry has invitaions to multiple users and some categories
are selected, und you change that entry on your phone, will the
invitaions and categories be preserved or reset?

 The lack of activesync makes me consider the commercial version, but that's 
 not for this year yet.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, December 21, 2012 12:35:11 PM Daniel Troeder wrote:
 On 21.12.2012 12:19, J. Roeleveld wrote:
  On Friday, December 21, 2012 11:33:49 AM Daniel Troeder wrote:
  On 21.12.2012 06:13, J. Roeleveld wrote:
  Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
  Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?
  
  Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.
  
  +1
  
  Works good with (user)groups, important modules are well integrated into
  each other (f.e.: you can link objects from address book, file manager
  or project manager to a calendar entry as an attachment), easy to
  install, fine granular permission system, sync through carddav, ical,
  caldav, webdav works, but feels kind of limited, activesync only in
  commercial version, works also with php-fcgi, devs help in community
  forum.
  
  Syncml works as well with the synthesis client on my Android phone.
 
 hmm... nice... a question:
 If a calendar entry has invitaions to multiple users and some categories
 are selected, und you change that entry on your phone, will the
 invitaions and categories be preserved or reset?

Not entirely certain, there are multiple options to change on phone and on 
server side.
I only create entries with invitations when logged in to the server.
I tend to mostly read the appointments on the phone and to add single-person 
(me) entries on the phone that then get moved to the server.

The different options make it difficult to check everything and is one of the 
reasons the Activesync option in the commercial version is so attractive.

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[gentoo-user] disk accesses per subdirectory tree

2012-12-21 Thread Helmut Jarausch

Hi,

I'd like to put some subdirectory trees (of / and of /usr and of /home)  
onto an SSD.
For that I'd like to count the disk accesses which go to a given  
subdirectory tree

in some given time intervall.

Is there any utility which can measure this?

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 21.12.2012 12:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld:
 On Friday, December 21, 2012 11:33:49 AM Daniel Troeder wrote:
 On 21.12.2012 06:13, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?

 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.

 +1

 Works good with (user)groups, important modules are well integrated into
 each other (f.e.: you can link objects from address book, file manager
 or project manager to a calendar entry as an attachment), easy to
 install, fine granular permission system, sync through carddav, ical,
 caldav, webdav works, but feels kind of limited, activesync only in
 commercial version, works also with php-fcgi, devs help in community forum.
 
 Syncml works as well with the synthesis client on my Android phone.
 The lack of activesync makes me consider the commercial version, but that's 
 not for this year yet.
 
You might want to look at tine20[1] - which originally was a part of
egroupware. It provides ActiveSync.


[1] http://www.tine20.org/




Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote:

Am 21.12.2012 12:19, schrieb J. Roeleveld:
 On Friday, December 21, 2012 11:33:49 AM Daniel Troeder wrote:
 On 21.12.2012 06:13, J. Roeleveld wrote:
 Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?

 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.

 +1

 Works good with (user)groups, important modules are well integrated
into
 each other (f.e.: you can link objects from address book, file
manager
 or project manager to a calendar entry as an attachment), easy to
 install, fine granular permission system, sync through carddav,
ical,
 caldav, webdav works, but feels kind of limited, activesync only in
 commercial version, works also with php-fcgi, devs help in community
forum.
 
 Syncml works as well with the synthesis client on my Android phone.
 The lack of activesync makes me consider the commercial version, but
that's 
 not for this year yet.
 
You might want to look at tine20[1] - which originally was a part of
egroupware. It provides ActiveSync.


[1] http://www.tine20.org/

When they get PostgreSQL support sorted. I will. Till then it's a no-go as I 
don't feel like running 2 database servers.
For that reason I also don't switch to Gallery3.

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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread Grant
Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?

- Grant

 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.

 Originally for the calendar and addressbook. But gradually been using the 
 other stuff as well apart from that website module. (not logged in at the 
 moment. Can't check the actual name)

 I quite like it. It does what it says on the box.
 It's also easy to set up when you have some experience with other webapps. 
 Integrates well with Kontakt from KDE and probably also others (but can't 
 comment on it)

 Is there anything in particular you want to know about it?

 --
 Joost

I'm just trying to figure out if it's something I should investigate.
A thread like this with people whose opinions I trust saying they like
it is extremely helpful. :)

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread Grant
 Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?

 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.

 +1

 Works good with (user)groups, important modules are well integrated into
 each other (f.e.: you can link objects from address book, file manager
 or project manager to a calendar entry as an attachment), easy to
 install, fine granular permission system, sync through carddav, ical,
 caldav, webdav works, but feels kind of limited, activesync only in
 commercial version, works also with php-fcgi, devs help in community forum.

 Syncml works as well with the synthesis client on my Android phone.
 The lack of activesync makes me consider the commercial version, but that's
 not for this year yet.

 You might want to look at tine20[1] - which originally was a part of
 egroupware. It provides ActiveSync.


 [1] http://www.tine20.org/

Has anyone used egroupware and tine20 (or others?) and would recommend
one over the other?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Fri, December 21, 2012 21:05, Grant wrote:
Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?

- Grant

 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.

 Originally for the calendar and addressbook. But gradually been using
 the other stuff as well apart from that website module. (not logged in
 at the moment. Can't check the actual name)

 I quite like it. It does what it says on the box.
 It's also easy to set up when you have some experience with other
 webapps. Integrates well with Kontakt from KDE and probably also others
 (but can't comment on it)

 Is there anything in particular you want to know about it?

 --
 Joost

 I'm just trying to figure out if it's something I should investigate.
 A thread like this with people whose opinions I trust saying they like
 it is extremely helpful. :)

Is there any specific functionality you are looking for?
If yes, we can check if it has it for you.

You can also test the commercial version easily by getting a test account at:
http://www.egroupware.org/trial

The community version doesn't have all the functionality of the commercial
version though.

Tine20 was mentioned as an alternative, but it doesn't work with Postgresql.

--
Joost




Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread Grant
Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?

- Grant

 Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.

 Originally for the calendar and addressbook. But gradually been using
 the other stuff as well apart from that website module. (not logged in
 at the moment. Can't check the actual name)

 I quite like it. It does what it says on the box.
 It's also easy to set up when you have some experience with other
 webapps. Integrates well with Kontakt from KDE and probably also others
 (but can't comment on it)

 Is there anything in particular you want to know about it?

 --
 Joost

 I'm just trying to figure out if it's something I should investigate.
 A thread like this with people whose opinions I trust saying they like
 it is extremely helpful. :)

 Is there any specific functionality you are looking for?
 If yes, we can check if it has it for you.

Actually I've never used groupware before and I'm hoping to figure out
which of these packages is most highly recommended and then give it a
try.  tine20 and egroupware have demos I'm experimenting with.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} anyone tried egroupware?

2012-12-21 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Friday, December 21, 2012 12:21:48 PM Grant wrote:
 Has anyone tried egroupware?  Any opinions on it?
 
 - Grant
 
  Yes. I have been using the community version for several years.
  
  Originally for the calendar and addressbook. But gradually been using
  the other stuff as well apart from that website module. (not logged in
  at the moment. Can't check the actual name)
  
  I quite like it. It does what it says on the box.
  It's also easy to set up when you have some experience with other
  webapps. Integrates well with Kontakt from KDE and probably also others
  (but can't comment on it)
  
  Is there anything in particular you want to know about it?
  
  --
  Joost
  
  I'm just trying to figure out if it's something I should investigate.
  A thread like this with people whose opinions I trust saying they like
  it is extremely helpful. :)
  
  Is there any specific functionality you are looking for?
  If yes, we can check if it has it for you.
 
 Actually I've never used groupware before and I'm hoping to figure out
 which of these packages is most highly recommended and then give it a
 try.  tine20 and egroupware have demos I'm experimenting with.

Use the one you end up feeling most comfortable with and that provides you 
with the functionality and usability that is important to you.

I quite like the usual stuff (email, calendar, addressbook, todolist) and 
extra stuff (projects, bug/feature/support/ tracker, wiki, knowledgebase, 
bookmarklist) that is in egroupware and the seamless way in which all these 
are integrated together and where you can easily link different items 
together.
(Can't link directly to an email, but you can add an email to the infolog 
which can then be linked and/or converted to a todo-item, project, .)

There are a few things I still want to experiment with, including something I 
think will allow me to automatically create certain items from emails. For 
instance, an email to  supp...@example.com  would be either merged into an 
existing support-call or a new call created depending on some filter.

But that is something I'll play with over the next few months :)

--
Joost



[gentoo-user] android and mtp

2012-12-21 Thread luis jure

hello list, 

i would appreciate suggestions and recommendations to manage a device
(samsung galaxy note II) with android ICS.

as you may know (i didn't until today...), ICS doesn't connect the device
as a good old USB mass storage device, but rather using this MTP thing.

i googled a bit and found that i already had libmtp installed. mtp-detect
sees the device alright. any ideas what would be the best and easiest way
to mount/umount the device for file transfer, syncing, etc?

i'm using xfce, and it would be ideal if i could find a way that
integrates well with the desktop.


best,


lj



Re: [gentoo-user] android and mtp

2012-12-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM, luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote:

 hello list,

 i would appreciate suggestions and recommendations to manage a device
 (samsung galaxy note II) with android ICS.

 as you may know (i didn't until today...), ICS doesn't connect the device
 as a good old USB mass storage device, but rather using this MTP thing.

 i googled a bit and found that i already had libmtp installed. mtp-detect
 sees the device alright. any ideas what would be the best and easiest way
 to mount/umount the device for file transfer, syncing, etc?

 i'm using xfce, and it would be ideal if i could find a way that
 integrates well with the desktop.

I think you can use mtpfs and then browse it like any other disk. I
don't have any MTP device to test it myself.



Re: [gentoo-user] disk accesses per subdirectory tree

2012-12-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
 Hi,

 I'd like to put some subdirectory trees (of / and of /usr and of /home) onto
 an SSD.
 For that I'd like to count the disk accesses which go to a given
 subdirectory tree
 in some given time intervall.

 Is there any utility which can measure this?

 Many thanks for a hint,
 Helmut.


Hi Helmut,
   Only responding to say I'd been looking for something to do the
same thing myself and haven't found anything.

   That said, a couple of points:

1) You should be able to watch for issues using smartctl, assuming a
modern SSDs.

2) In a post where I asked about this sort of stuff in the Vertex
forums I received the following response from folks who seem to have
more experience than I. Of course, take this with a grain of salt:

[QUOTE]
Just using round numbers and assuming effective wear leveling, your 30
GB file may get rewritten once a month. That's 25% of the 128 GB
drive, so each NAND cell will get rewritten 3 times a year. If the
NAND is good for 10,000 rewrites, you have LOTS of years available...

Even if it's rewritten every day, that's 100 NAND rewrites/year, or
100 years of NAND life based on rewrites.

You can use any numbers you want, but it will still likely come out to
longer than we care about...
[/QUOTE]

   Keep in mind that the idea of 'effective wear leveling' is
___really___ important here. Unlike an HD, SSDs do not write over and
over to the same location forever. If a block of the drive starts to
get heavily used, in terms of number of writes, then firmware will
move the block to another location and remap the address. This happens
in the drive, not by the OS, so it's invisible to us. (First order
anyway - there are probably ways to find out but I'm not looking for
those.)

   Anyway, as there hadn't been any responses I thought I would...

Cheers,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] slideshow on USB stick

2012-12-21 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is it possible to create slide show (pictures) on USB stick and play on a
 TV?

It may depend on specific TV brand and model that you own. For
example, my Philips branded HDTV can play a slideshow of images
(optionally with mp3 music in the background!) based on an XML
definition which was documented in the TV manual.



Re: [gentoo-user] android and mtp

2012-12-21 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:56 PM, luis jure l...@internet.com.uy wrote:

 hello list,

 i would appreciate suggestions and recommendations to manage a device
 (samsung galaxy note II) with android ICS.

 as you may know (i didn't until today...), ICS doesn't connect the device
 as a good old USB mass storage device, but rather using this MTP thing.

 i googled a bit and found that i already had libmtp installed. mtp-detect
 sees the device alright. any ideas what would be the best and easiest way
 to mount/umount the device for file transfer, syncing, etc?

 i'm using xfce, and it would be ideal if i could find a way that
 integrates well with the desktop.


 best,


 lj


Same issue here with the new Kindle Fire HD. I managed to mount it
successfully using jmtpfs from the poly-c overlay.

This link was helpful to me

http://research.jacquette.com/jmtpfs-exchanging-files-between-android-devices-and-linux/

HTH,
Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] android and mtp

2012-12-21 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 16:19:10 -0600, Paul Hartman wrote:

  as you may know (i didn't until today...), ICS doesn't connect the
  device as a good old USB mass storage device, but rather using this
  MTP thing.

No, and there's a good reason for that. In order to mount the device as a
USB storage device on the computer, it has to be unmounted on the phone.
You can't have a single filesystem directly mounted by two operating
systems at once.

 I think you can use mtpfs and then browse it like any other disk. I
 don't have any MTP device to test it myself.

I found that to be rather fragile, jmtpfs works far better for me, with a
Galaxy S3 and a Nexus 7.


-- 
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Top Oxymorons Number 37: Sanitary landfill


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[gentoo-user] E17 lock screen

2012-12-21 Thread Kevin Brandstatter
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So e17 just came out and ive been using for a bit. The only problem
ive had with it is that i cant check the option to lock the screen on
suspend. I don't think this is a problem on some of the other
distributions so thought it could be a policy problem on gentoo.

Curious if anyone else uses e17/has this problem and maybe a fix. or
just for suggestions of where to look

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