[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-07-30 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 31/07/2013 07:32, Daniel Campbell wrote: I was interested in becoming a dev for a little while, but the testing and what looks to be prolonged process kinda put me off of the idea. It just seems like a lot of bureaucratic work. Perhaps my impression is wrong, though... You are right that the p

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 07/30/2013 05:40 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > There is going to be resistance. Two months ago there was a huge > thread in gentoo-dev, because a package maintaner complained that his > co-maintainer added a systemd unit to the package: > > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/85

Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-30 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tue, July 30, 2013 23:34, Randy Westlund wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 07:52:11AM +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> >> Will the server be internet-facing? >> I would make sure you have a firewall and only open the port needed for >> the front-end. >> Don't update the kernel too often, keep an eye

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:31 PM, wrote: > First and foremost, thank you Canek. > > On Tue, Jul 30 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:56 PM, wrote: >> >>> I am a gnome-3 user, who wants to continue with gnome-3. >>> [ I described my current state--beginning of wiki ]

Re: [gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

2013-07-30 Thread gottlieb
First and foremost, thank you Canek. On Tue, Jul 30 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:56 PM, wrote: > >> I am a gnome-3 user, who wants to continue with gnome-3. >> [ I described my current state--beginning of wiki ] > > Sounds reasonable. > >> [ I asked about /etc/mt

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 06:36:57AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote > Side question... > > I want to run the vmware tools on my gentoo VM (so the host can safely > power it down), but it also requires modules. Why do you need vmware tools? From the host, execute... ssh root@ /sbin/poweroff ...or, if

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-07-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 07:48:19PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 07/30/2013 02:16 PM, hasufell wrote: > > And we need MOAR devs > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2 > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > > > > so awesome!

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-07-30 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 07/30/2013 02:16 PM, hasufell wrote: > And we need MOAR devs > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > > so awesome! srsly! > > What many people don't seem to get is: you don't need to be a commi

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
There is going to be resistance. Two months ago there was a huge thread in gentoo-dev, because a package maintaner complained that his co-maintainer added a systemd unit to the package: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/85792 In the end, the maintainer rage-quit: http://article.gm

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM, wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > >> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Volkov > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez

Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium: questions

2013-07-30 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 09:11:37 Pavel Volkov wrote: > I have 2 questions about how Chromium operates with a clean profile. > I run it like this: > % chromium --user-data-dir= > > Directory is empty (at first launch). > > After the first launch, some entries immediately appear in History. I > vis

Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-30 Thread Randy Westlund
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 07:52:11AM +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > For that, you could, in time, look into PostGIS (or similar). > Interesting, I'll keep that in the back of my mind. > Will the server be internet-facing? > I would make sure you have a firewall and only open the port needed for >

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-07-30 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 07/30/2013 01:16 PM, hasufell wrote: > And we need MOAR devs > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2 > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs > > so awesome! srsly! > > What many people don't seem to get is: you don't need to be a commi

[gentoo-user] Gentoo is so AWESOME

2013-07-30 Thread hasufell
And we need MOAR devs http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1&chap=2 https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo/Staffing_Needs so awesome! srsly! What many people don't seem to get is: you don't need to be a commit monkey doing your 100+ commits per week. Our minimum r

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: >> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> >> > Therefore, as of today, anyo

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > >> > >> On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> > Therefore, as of today, anyone can have a Gentoo machine with only > >> > syste

Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-30 Thread Bruce Hill
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 02:35:21PM +0100, Mick wrote: > > > > spot a girl > > How old are you, sonny and how does your comment address the question of the > OP? He's Chinese in his early 20s... -- Happy Penguin Computers >') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo,

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-30 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 30.07.2013 07:35, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Michael Hampicke wrote: >> Am 30.07.2013 03:04, schrieb walt: >>> As I posted in another thread, after successfully updating to gnome-3.8 >>> on a virtual gentoo machine that's been running systemd for months, I

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: >> >> On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> > Therefore, as of today, anyone can have a Gentoo machine with only >> > systemd, with no OpenRC installed. >> >> Reall

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >> William Hubbs closed bug #409385[1] as fixed, introducing >> virtual/service-manager and adding it to the @system set, and dropping >> OpenRC from baselayout's post dependencies. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium: questions

2013-07-30 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > I have 2 questions about how Chromium operates with a clean profile. > I run it like this: > % chromium --user-data-dir= > > Directory is empty (at first launch). > > After the first launch, some entries immediately appear in History. I > vis

Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-30 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 11:31:05 microcai wrote: > 2013/7/30 Randy Westlund : > > Hey guys, > > > > I'm planning to set up an SQL server for my dad's small canvas awning > > business, and I've never done this before. Most of my sysadmin-type > > skills are self-taught. I could use some advice. >

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Kerin Millar
On 30/07/2013 11:36, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-07-30 4:11 AM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: It needs a couple of kernel modules to work, but emerge will promt to you what it needs. Side question... I want to run the vmware tools on my gentoo VM (so the host can safely power it down), but it also req

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/07/2013 12:36, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2013-07-30 4:11 AM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: >> It needs a couple of kernel modules to work, but emerge will promt to >> you what it needs. > > Side question... > > I want to run the vmware tools on my gentoo VM (so the host can safely > power it down), b

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-07-30 4:11 AM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: It needs a couple of kernel modules to work, but emerge will promt to you what it needs. Side question... I want to run the vmware tools on my gentoo VM (so the host can safely power it down), but it also requires modules. For security reasons

Re: [gentoo-user] SQL Server Advice for Small Business

2013-07-30 Thread microcai
2013/7/30 Randy Westlund : > Hey guys, > > I'm planning to set up an SQL server for my dad's small canvas awning > business, and I've never done this before. Most of my sysadmin-type skills > are self-taught. I could use some advice. spot a girl

Re: [gentoo-user] fail: kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.5-r1

2013-07-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/07/2013 11:38, Alain Didierjean wrote: > > > - Mail original - >> De: "Neil Bothwick" >> À: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >> Envoyé: Dimanche 28 Juillet 2013 18:06:38 >> Objet: Re: [gentoo-user] fail: kde-base/kdelibs-4.10.5-r1 >> >> On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 17:59:49 +0200 (CEST), Alain

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/07/2013 11:28, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 07/30/2013 10:20:22 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 30/07/2013 08:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I've been running a Windows 7 (professional)guest with Virtualbox >> on my >> > GenToo system for some years. >> > But recently I have a b

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/7/30 Helmut Jarausch : > On 07/30/2013 10:11:54 AM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm using qemu-kvm for hoisting a Windows 7, but always typing the >> long commandline is anoying, so I wrote a little script to start the >> VM. I recently switched to libvirt and virt-manager, which do

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 07/30/2013 10:20:22 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 30/07/2013 08:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running a Windows 7 (professional)guest with Virtualbox on my > GenToo system for some years. > But recently I have a broken network either due to Virtualbox or due to > some > (

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Helmut Jarausch
On 07/30/2013 10:11:54 AM, Randolph Maaßen wrote: Hi, I'm using qemu-kvm for hoisting a Windows 7, but always typing the long commandline is anoying, so I wrote a little script to start the VM. I recently switched to libvirt and virt-manager, which do the commandline work for me, and creatting n

Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium: questions

2013-07-30 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Yohan Pereira wrote: > Just a hunch but have you signed into Chromium with your google account > ? Google has this feature/anti-feature (based on your outlook) where it > syncs bookmarks, history among other things with their servers so you have > access to it on

Re: [gentoo-user] [Preliminary report] Gnome-3.8 update works with openrc :)

2013-07-30 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 30/07/13 04:13, Mark David Dumlao wrote: walt, are you using pam_systemd? I have a hunch that systemd-logind should still work. nope, logind no longer works with anything else than systemd since 205 we have given up on logind+openrc, that's why gnome also now pulls in systemd at portage

Re: [gentoo-user] Chromium: questions

2013-07-30 Thread Yohan Pereira
On 30/07/13 at 12:11pm, Pavel Volkov wrote: > I have 2 questions about how Chromium operates with a clean profile. > I run it like this: > % chromium --user-data-dir= > > Directory is empty (at first launch). > > After the first launch, some entries immediately appear in History. I > visited tho

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 30/07/2013 08:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I've been running a Windows 7 (professional)guest with Virtualbox on my > GenToo system for some years. > But recently I have a broken network either due to Virtualbox or due to > some > (automatic) Windows updates. > > The situation is more

Re: [gentoo-user] conf.d/net and systemd

2013-07-30 Thread covici
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:53 PM, wrote: > > Hi there. I would like to know how I can use my existing conf.d/net if > > I were to use systemd, or is there some better way to do this? I have > > two static networks an internal and external one and use the postup fo

Re: [gentoo-user] conf.d/net and systemd

2013-07-30 Thread covici
Pavel Volkov wrote: > On Tuesday 30 July 2013 00:53:08 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > Hi there. I would like to know how I can use my existing conf.d/net if > > I were to use systemd, or is there some better way to do this? I have > > two static networks an internal and external one and use t

Re: [gentoo-user] which VM do you recommend?

2013-07-30 Thread Randolph Maaßen
2013/7/30 Helmut Jarausch : > Hi, > > I've been running a Windows 7 (professional)guest with Virtualbox on my > GenToo system for some years. > But recently I have a broken network either due to Virtualbox or due to some > (automatic) Windows updates. > > The situation is more than strange. > > So

[gentoo-user] Chromium: questions

2013-07-30 Thread Pavel Volkov
I have 2 questions about how Chromium operates with a clean profile. I run it like this: % chromium --user-data-dir= Directory is empty (at first launch). After the first launch, some entries immediately appear in History. I visited those before, but it's not everything I visited. Approximately

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote: > On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Therefore, as of today, anyone can have a Gentoo machine with only > > systemd, with no OpenRC installed. > > Really? Bug 373219 is still open. > Sorry, I missed your explanatio

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > William Hubbs closed bug #409385[1] as fixed, introducing > virtual/service-manager and adding it to the @system set, and dropping > OpenRC from baselayout's post dependencies. > > Therefore, as of today, anyone can have a Gentoo machine

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

2013-07-30 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Monday 29 July 2013 14:04:38 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 28/07/13 11:22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > Basically, systemd is now a first class citizen in Gentoo (on par with > > OpenRC) > > This is great. Thanks to everyone involved! > > Does someone know whether a KDE system can work relia