On 01/08/2013 00:25, Stroller wrote:
On 31 July 2013, at 22:43, Alan McKinnon wrote:
...
Are we OK on this for now, or is there more to discuss?
Yes, that's great. I'm glad we can be open and honest when we've got these
kinds of problems.
On other occasions I've worried that you
On 07/31/2013 02:05 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote:
On 1/08/2013 04:34, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
It seems a little rude to pop in, address them personally, and ask them
each if they'd devote months of their time towards mentoring me. (Doing
so can pressure someone into agreeing to something he
Am 01.08.2013 03:02, schrieb Walter Dnes:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:45:48AM +0100, Kerin Millar wrote
Please provide the content of /proc/cpuinfo on the host.
The first one is my shiney almost new desktop (Dell Inspiron 660) and
the second one is my hot backup (more like emergency
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:48:19 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
I want to become a dev, what's my next step? There is none. Help out,
and maybe someone will notice you? Ok, I'm on it. Been doing it for
years, and I know several other people in the same situation. It doesn't
work, and recruitment
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013 14:34:41 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
It seems a little rude to pop in, address them personally, and ask them
each if they'd devote months of their time towards mentoring me. (Doing
so can pressure someone into agreeing to something he doesn't want to
do, or makes him
on 08/01/2013 12:59 AM Paul Hartman wrote the following:
If no disks are attached, I wonder if something is probing it?
I checked my dmesg and every time I plug in my eSATA enclosure, I see
this very similar message:
[156541.724580] ata7: exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x404
Hi All,
Yesterday there was an portage upgrade and after that I got it if I
would like to use euse:
sayusi-desktop sayusi # euse -E gtk3
ERROR: $PORTDIR couldn't be determined
What is it and why that variable not determined? I did not do anything
and my machine was estarted since portage
on 08/01/2013 01:10 AM Bruce Hill wrote the following:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:17:02PM +0300, Thanasis wrote:
on 07/31/2013 10:06 PM Paul Hartman wrote the following:
There are a few approaches to try figuring it out explained here:
Wang Xuerui idontknw.w...@gmail.com wrote:
在 2013-8-1 上午10:26， cov...@ccs.covici.com写道：
Can a shell script tell if systemd is the init? I have a couple of
places where it would be nice to know this.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Check /proc/1/comm or something like that,
On 08/01/2013 09:42:35 AM, András Csányi wrote:
Hi All,
Yesterday there was an portage upgrade and after that I got it if I
would like to use euse:
sayusi-desktop sayusi # euse -E gtk3
ERROR: $PORTDIR couldn't be determined
What is it and why that variable not determined? I did not do
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 02:00:23AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
You need an OpenRC use flag to install OpenRC init scripts? That's
simply a lie.
An apology to Daniel might be in order. I start my USE flag with
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 06:11:02PM +0530, Yohan Pereira wrote
On 31/07/13 at 08:30am, Tanstaafl wrote:
So, how should this be used to 'opt out of systemd completely'?
from main make.conf
Use this variable if you want to selectively prevent certain
files from being copied into your
On Tuesday 30 Jul 2013 07:45:39 Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
I've been running a Windows 7 (professional)guest with Virtualbox on my
GenToo system for some years.
But recently I have a broken network either due to Virtualbox or due to
some
(automatic) Windows updates.
The situation is
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:24:17 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
You can use it to prevent ebuilds from installing unit files
or open-rc scripts from doing so (based on what you want to opt-out
of).
From the man page...
INSTALL_MASK = [space delimited list of file names]
I do not want
The 01/08/13, Hans de Graaff wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1chap=2
documents this from the new developer perspective. Note how it says to
contact the recruiters if you don't already have found a mentor yourself.
There is also
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht nsebre...@piing.fr wrote:
The 01/08/13, Hans de Graaff wrote:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=1chap=2
documents this from the new developer perspective. Note how it says to
contact the recruiters if you don't
On 1 August 2013 11:18, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
On 08/01/2013 09:42:35 AM, András Csányi wrote:
Hi All,
Yesterday there was an portage upgrade and after that I got it if I
would like to use euse:
sayusi-desktop sayusi # euse -E gtk3
ERROR: $PORTDIR couldn't be
The 01/08/13, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
I don't see the major difference between that and opening a bug and
attaching the patch. Only that bugzilla allow to manage the process,
not have leftovers, and future people can resume past discussions.
The bugzilla thing is what makes the difference, IMHO.
On 08/01/2013 02:11 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 01/08/13, Alon Bar-Lev wrote:
I don't see the major difference between that and opening a bug and
attaching the patch. Only that bugzilla allow to manage the process,
not have leftovers, and future people can resume past discussions.
The
The 01/08/13, hasufell wrote:
You can use the command line too.
www-client/pybugz
I know this tool. I did try it. At that time it was buggy and did not
work for me. Though, this would still be a busy process as this is just
another interface og the bugzilla thing.
Git workflow has been on
On 08/01/2013 03:15 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote:
The 01/08/13, hasufell wrote:
You can use the command line too.
www-client/pybugz
I know this tool. I did try it. At that time it was buggy and did not
work for me. Though, this would still be a busy process as this is just
another
Hello,
On Wed, 31 Jul 2013, Paul Hartman wrote:
http://serverfault.com/questions/244944/linux-ata-errors-translating-to-a-device-name
All flawed IMHO. My version (works with PATA too), possibly flawed too:
~/bin/ataid_to_drive.sh
#!/bin/bash
oIFS=$IFS
IFS=$'\n'
CTRLS=( $(/sbin/lspci |
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Thanasis thana...@asyr.hopto.org wrote:
on 08/01/2013 01:10 AM Bruce Hill wrote the following:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:17:02PM +0300, Thanasis wrote:
on 07/31/2013 10:06 PM Paul Hartman wrote the following:
There are a few approaches to try figuring it out
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:42 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu wrote:
Hi All,
Yesterday there was an portage upgrade and after that I got it if I
would like to use euse:
sayusi-desktop sayusi # euse -E gtk3
ERROR: $PORTDIR couldn't be determined
What is it and why that variable not
On 1 August 2013 16:16, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
When I upgraded portage yesterday, it added this PORTDIR line to
make.conf for me when I ran etc-update. Did you update your config
files after upgrading portage?
I remember there was an etc-update, but make.conf was
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:51:56AM +0300, Thanasis wrote:
I keep the cable connected to both the motherboard's sata port and to
the external eSata disk enclosure.
The _only_ time that I am _certain_ I've received that particular error is in
a very similar case. My workstation has 2 SATA
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:37:34AM +0300, Thanasis wrote:
Me too. That's exactly how I use this Sata port, so it must be related
to the way the kernel handles/probes it.
BTW, I use a cable which is sata - eSata, i.e. sata for the
motherboard side and eSata for the external disk side, and I
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 12:15:28 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk w
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 06:24:17 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
You can use it to prevent ebuilds from installing unit files
or open-rc scripts from doing so (based on what you want to
opt-out of).
From the man
For months I've been using apps that need the tun and fuse kernel modules,
and I've never needed to modprobe those two modules until about a week ago.
The modules were loaded automagically when those apps started up. (I never
understood how that happened, BTW.)
Suddenly those two apps won't start
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 10:46:04 -0500, »Q« wrote:
Everything is a file, nor does the man page say anything about not
using it to mask out directories. Bearing in mind that this is the
means chosen by the devs, it is reasonable to assume that it is
practicable.
Elsewhere, man make.conf
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 02:00:23AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
You need an OpenRC use flag to install OpenRC init scripts? That's
simply a
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:04 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
For months I've been using apps that need the tun and fuse kernel modules,
and I've never needed to modprobe those two modules until about a week ago.
The modules were loaded automagically when those apps started up. (I never
Am 01.08.2013 09:37, schrieb Thanasis:
on 08/01/2013 12:59 AM Paul Hartman wrote the following:
If no disks are attached, I wonder if something is probing it?
I checked my dmesg and every time I plug in my eSATA enclosure, I see
this very similar message:
[156541.724580] ata7: exception
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs systemd
thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update, debating on
whether to update to the regular udev, or to
On 2013-08-01 12:28 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
Neglected to mention, it is still running 171-r10
Am 01.08.2013 18:28, schrieb Tanstaafl:
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me
find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from
Am 01.08.2013 19:16, schrieb Marc Stürmer:
net.ifnames=0
Worked like a charm to me.
Forgot to mention the more thorough documentation though, so here it is:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade
You
Hi,
System is an AMD64.
I am trying to follow these instructions:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beagleboneblack/install.xml
and get problems while executing
Build a crosscompiler
Code Listing 3.2: Building a crosscompiler
# crossdev -S armv7a-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi
On Thursday 01 August 2013 12:28:38 Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've googled
On 01/08/13 at 08:07pm, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
System is an AMD64.
I am trying to follow these instructions:
http://dev.gentoo.org/~armin76/arm/beagleboneblack/install.xml
and get problems while executing
Build a crosscompiler
Code Listing 3.2: Building a
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:28:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me
find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from udev to eudev.
emerge -Ca udev
emerge -1a eudev
But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to
on 08/01/2013 05:43 PM Bruce Hill wrote the following:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 10:37:34AM +0300, Thanasis wrote:
Me too. That's exactly how I use this Sata port, so it must be related
to the way the kernel handles/probes it.
BTW, I use a cable which is sata - eSata, i.e. sata for the
on 08/01/2013 07:38 PM Volker Armin Hemmann wrote the following:
Am 01.08.2013 09:37, schrieb Thanasis:
on 08/01/2013 12:59 AM Paul Hartman wrote the following:
If no disks are attached, I wonder if something is probing it?
I checked my dmesg and every time I plug in my eSATA enclosure, I
Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot
On 2013-08-01 4:04 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I switched when it was still fresh and it wasn't to bad from what I
recall. Just emerge -C udev and emerge eudev. I think I masked udev to
make sure it didn't get pulled in any more by something else but other
than that, it just worked.
On 01/08/13 19:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've googled until my fingers are
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 08:41:56AM +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote
You can use march=native on your gentoo hosts, that's no problem, as
long as you don't use it on your guests. That's the hole idea of VMs:
being able to move the virtual machine to another machine, that might be
completely
Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2013-08-01 4:04 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I switched when it was still fresh and it wasn't to bad from what I
recall. Just emerge -C udev and emerge eudev. I think I masked udev to
make sure it didn't get pulled in any more by something else but other
than
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 01/08/13 19:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've
On 30/07/2013 22:04, walt wrote:
On 07/29/2013 06:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Can anyone post a .config for a 3.8.13 kernel that is known to work on
a vbox install of gentoo as guest.
Working on a fresh install but don't have gentoo running anywhere to
rob a .config from.
This one worked for
On 02/08/13 00:49, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 01/08/13 19:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular
On 01/08/2013 22:38, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 08:41:56AM +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote
You can use march=native on your gentoo hosts, that's no problem, as
long as you don't use it on your guests. That's the hole idea of VMs:
being able to move the virtual machine to another
Hi there,
When I start X (or start kdm), I get a segmentation fault and no X.
The Xorg-log says:
[ 8675.702] (**) NVIDIA(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[ 8675.702] (==) NVIDIA(0): RGB weight 888
[ 8675.702] (==) NVIDIA(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[ 8675.702] (==) NVIDIA(0): Using
On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've googled until my fingers
On 01/08/13 23:02, Alexander Puchmayr wrote:
Hi there,
When I start X (or start kdm), I get a segmentation fault and no X.
[...]
Kernel 3.8.18, nvidia-drivers 304.88 (Last to support the GeForce7600, newer
drivers do not support it any more).
Any ideas?
Try manually rolling your own ebuild
On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote:
On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to
On 02/08/13 07:42, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote:
On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
...
so why follow with unreliable fork, when there is the official package
available with equal features?
easy - it works and while I had machines running some of
On 08/01/2013 03:08 PM, Kerin Millar wrote:
On 30/07/2013 22:04, walt wrote:
On 07/29/2013 06:29 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Can anyone post a .config for a 3.8.13 kernel that is known to work on
a vbox install of gentoo as guest.
Working on a fresh install but don't have gentoo running anywhere
On 02/08/13 07:42, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote:
On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on
On 02/08/13 03:19, William Kenworthy wrote:
On 02/08/13 07:42, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 02:27, William Kenworthy wrote:
On 02/08/13 00:28, Tanstaafl wrote:
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 02:42:36AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote
nope, you just believed all the FUD there has been out there. i've said
it many times, and i'll say it again:
the only real different is USE=rule-generator and that's it
and sys-fs/eudev is constantly out of date and
On Thu, Aug 01, 2013 at 12:28:38PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote
Hi all,
Ok, rehashing this, but please don't turn it into another udev vs
systemd thread.
I have an older server that I have been putting off this update,
debating on whether to update to the regular udev, or to eudev.
I've
On 02/08/13 04:01, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 02:42:36AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote
nope, you just believed all the FUD there has been out there. i've said
it many times, and i'll say it again:
the only real different is USE=rule-generator and that's it
and sys-fs/eudev is
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in
sys-fs/udev
Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a
single valid bug filed about them.
Stop spreading FUD.
Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in
sys-fs/udev
Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a
single valid bug filed about them.
Stop spreading FUD.
Looking forward to lastrite
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in
sys-fs/udev
Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a
single valid bug filed about them.
Stop spreading FUD.
Looking
On 02/08/13 11:01, Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in
sys-fs/udev
Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a
single valid bug filed about them.
Stop
On 02/08/13 06:14, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in
sys-fs/udev
Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a
single valid bug filed about them.
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:43 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote:
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 02:00:23AM -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Daniel Campbell li...@sporkbox.us wrote:
You need an OpenRC use flag
Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org writes:
Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed, not a
single valid bug filed about them.
Stop spreading FUD.
In what way are network interface names predictable? A new system
arrives on your desk, what is the name of the first (or
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 06:14, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in
sys-fs/udev
Futhermore predictable network interface names work as designed,
not a
single
On 02/08/13 08:28, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 06:14, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
On 02/08/13 05:48, Dale wrote:
Samuli Suominen wrote:
Huh? USE=firmware-loader is optional and enabled by default in
sys-fs/udev
Futhermore predictable network interface names work
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