Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread gevisz
My thanks to all who replied to my question. The problem was with my local router, which I also used as DNS. After excluding it from /etc/resolv.config and /etc/init.d/net files, Firefox started to work as expected. Thanks to all of you, I now have a working Gentoo on my desktop!!! Still, a

[gentoo-user] layman issues

2013-08-05 Thread András Csányi
Good Morning All, After update the layman repositories and portage tree I got this at almost every package in every layman repository. Did I miss something or I should inform the maintainer of the repository to do something to the packages? Reading category 50|163 ( 30%): dev-util .. Could

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Mick
On Monday 05 Aug 2013 07:06:08 gevisz wrote: My thanks to all who replied to my question. The problem was with my local router, which I also used as DNS. After excluding it from /etc/resolv.config and /etc/init.d/net files, Firefox started to work as expected. Hmm ... I wonder if this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 08/04/2013 11:56 AM, Dale wrote: Anthony G. Basile wrote: I have refrained from flamewars, but I want to reassure people, eudev will not be dropped. I noticed the other day, posted on this thread by the way, that it left beta too. I'm assuming you are involved in the project so allow me

Re: [gentoo-user] Freeze after suspend-to-ram with kernel 3.10

2013-08-05 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 10:02:05AM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: I tried to confirm my oberservation by deliberately hibernating it multiple times yesterday -- it always woke up with 3.9. Now I booted it with 3.10 and it didn't come up on the first try. Do you have any suggestion how I

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 04/08/13 05:56, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:02:39AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like sys-apps/module-init-tools already was removed as unnecessary later on. You want eudev removed, and Lennart Poettering wants udev on

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Marc Stürmer
Why is was forked you ask? Because of the predictable Name stuff and some People disliked the attitude of the udev programmer which was either my way or the high way. aside choice is always Good to have so in the end IT was bound to happen sooner or later and is a Good thing to have.

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/08/13 13:27, Marc Stürmer wrote: Why is was forked you ask? Because of the predictable Name stuff and some People disliked the attitude of the udev programmer which was either my way or the high way. aside choice is always Good to have so in the end IT was bound to happen sooner or later

Re: [gentoo-user] Complete list of USE flags?

2013-08-05 Thread Daniel Troeder
Am 04.08.2013 20:31, schrieb Pandu Poluan: Hello guys, I'm a bit ashamed to ask this question, as it belies how long I haven't actually installed a 'lightweight' Gentoo system... But I digress. On to my question: Anyone knows an exhaustive list of USE flags? And a related

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 06:12:02AM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote I am the current lead. You may follow the activity here [1]. [1] https://github.com/gentoo/eudev/commits/master Thank you very much for your work on eudev, from an end-user who benefits from your work. -- Walter Dnes

[gentoo-user] /usr/locale vs /usr/share/locale

2013-08-05 Thread Alexey Mishustin
Hello list, I have noticed today this folder on my laptop: /usr/locale. It contains multiple subfolders-languages with LC_MESSAGES. I wonder why these LC_MESSAGES are situated there, and not at /usr/share/locale, as on my other machine with Gentoo installed. Equery says that /usr/locale belongs

Re: [gentoo-user] How much effort from udev-197-r3 to 206

2013-08-05 Thread Nick Khamis
please read the news it's a must. If your network card drivers are built as modules ''in theory'' you are not effected. If they are built into the kernel, you will have to delete a 70- something file, and replace it with an 80- something empty file, to keep the same ethN wlanN names. Sorry, i do

[gentoo-user] Re: /usr/locale vs /usr/share/locale

2013-08-05 Thread Alexey Mishustin
2013/8/5 Alexey Mishustin shum...@shumkar.ru: Hello list, I have noticed today this folder on my laptop: /usr/locale. It contains multiple subfolders-languages with LC_MESSAGES. I wonder why these LC_MESSAGES are situated there, and not at /usr/share/locale, as on my other machine with

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 11:06:52AM +0100, Mick wrote: Suggestions of Michael Kintzios This is the new kernel naming scheme of NICs. Which-ever nomenclature you decide to use, check that that's the only one having a symlink in /etc/init.d to net.lo Yes, there is only enp2s15

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 08/05/2013 06:19 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: On 04/08/13 05:56, Walter Dnes wrote: On Fri, Aug 02, 2013 at 05:02:39AM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote Looking forward to lastrite sys-fs/eudev just like sys-apps/module-init-tools already was removed as unnecessary later on. You want eudev

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Tanstaafl
Going back and re-reading finds this answer to my other last question - also from you Neil (so thanks again!)... But I'm curious... On 2013-08-01 2:43 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:28:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I've googled until my fingers are blue, but

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:59:09 -0500 schrieb Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 11:06:52AM +0100, Mick wrote: Suggestions of Michael Kintzios This is the new kernel naming scheme of NICs. Which-ever nomenclature you decide to use, check that

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-05 10:10 AM, Anthony G. Basile bas...@opensource.dyc.edu wrote: On 08/05/2013 06:19 AM, Samuli Suominen wrote: That might be the systemd upstream view point, but definately isn't mine. Fact is that udev can be built and ran standalone without systemd and you don't need eudev for

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 04:31:44PM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:59:09 -0500 schrieb Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com: If this is the new kernel naming scheme of NICs, why this in dmesg: [4.725902] systemd-udevd[1176]: renamed network interface wlan0 to

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:41:09 -0500 schrieb Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com: [...] My point is don't say the new kernel naming scheme of NICs, say the new systemd naming scheme of NICs. Oh, oops. I don't know how I managed to misread your email that spectacularly. Sorry! -- Marc

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Mick
On Monday 05 Aug 2013 15:41:09 Bruce Hill wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 04:31:44PM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:59:09 -0500 schrieb Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com: If this is the new kernel naming scheme of NICs, why this in dmesg: [4.725902]

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Stroller
On 5 August 2013, at 15:41, Bruce Hill wrote: … For those of us with 2 or more NICs, myself included, we have already setup our systems to use multiple NICs for a purpose and configured the system so that nothing can/will/needs to rename subsequent NICs. Except you can't say that if you have

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2013 16:41, Bruce Hill wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 04:31:44PM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:59:09 -0500 schrieb Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com: If this is the new kernel naming scheme of NICs, why this in dmesg: [4.725902] systemd-udevd[1176]:

[gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

2013-08-05 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello, I am using svn to update a repository. Somebody added files to the repository with weird characters in the filename. SVN refuses to update the respository unless I first: export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 I don't know or really care what that mumbo jumbo means, but I would like an answer to

[gentoo-user] Re: Browsers cannot access WWW while ping and host utilities work as expected.

2013-08-05 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2013-08-04, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 04 Aug 2013 19:56:08 gevisz wrote: The ifconfig utility shows that instead of eth0 I have somewhat strange enp2s15 but I have played with this and found no difference after forcing udev to name it eth0. This is the new kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

2013-08-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am using svn to update a repository. Somebody added files to the repository with weird characters in the filename. SVN refuses to update the respository unless I first: export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/locale vs /usr/share/locale

2013-08-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Alexey Mishustin shum...@shumkar.ru wrote: Hello list, I have noticed today this folder on my laptop: /usr/locale. It contains multiple subfolders-languages with LC_MESSAGES. I wonder why these LC_MESSAGES are situated there, and not at /usr/share/locale, as

Re: [gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

2013-08-05 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:53:11PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am using svn to update a repository. Somebody added files to the repository with weird characters in the filename. SVN refuses to

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:27 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated (on ~amd64). Can you elaborate on what this update was that

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-05 4:18 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:27 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated (on

Re: [gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

2013-08-05 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 02:53:11PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am using svn to update a repository. Somebody added

[gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
! Pls don't flame me :-) ! Don't misunderstand ... I happily trust gentoo on most of my customers servers. A customer of mine chose SLES 10 back then to run a VMware-Server installation (1.0.x back then) because they had some big company-license-pool available. That server is to be replaced

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/08/2013 23:20, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: ! Pls don't flame me :-) ! Don't misunderstand ... I happily trust gentoo on most of my customers servers. A customer of mine chose SLES 10 back then to run a VMware-Server installation (1.0.x back then) because they had some big

Re: [gentoo-user] SLES or gentoo ... ?

2013-08-05 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 05.08.2013 23:55, schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 05/08/2013 23:20, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: ! Pls don't flame me :-) ! Don't misunderstand ... I happily trust gentoo on most of my customers servers. A customer of mine chose SLES 10 back then to run a VMware-Server installation (1.0.x

Re: [gentoo-user] export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

2013-08-05 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: The handbook documents setting a system-wide default locale. You generally do this by setting the LANG variable in /etc/conf.d/02locale.

[gentoo-user] Re: export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8

2013-08-05 Thread Kai Krakow
Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com schrieb: 3. The handbook suggests that I should add this line to /etc/env.d/02locale: 'LC_COLLATE=C', but I do not know if they are again talking about the language DE. RESOLUTION: I assumed LC_COLLATE=C refers to english and added the line without

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 01:19:34PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote That might be the systemd upstream view point, but definately isn't mine. Your view and mine don't matter. Upstream's view matters. That's how we end up with fiascos like GNOME and Microsoft's Metro interface. Fact is that

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 09:18:38PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote On Mon, 05 Aug 2013 10:24:27 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: But there's not a lot of point as eudev isn't that different to udev now, AFAICT, and a recent update forced me to switch back to udev because eudev hadn't been updated

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-05 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Aug 05, 2013 at 10:10:45AM -0400, Anthony G. Basile wrote For now. And you get a ton of bloat. I removed over 300 unused functions. Wonderful. It reminds me of... http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/26979.html Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add,

[gentoo-user] installing systemd

2013-08-05 Thread gottlieb
(I brought an old system upto the state of my real one and am trying to follow the wiki for converting to systemd). I am upto the part where the wiki says emerge --ask systemd I believe the wiki left out unmerging or something since the emerge gives conflicts (as expected). What must I

Re: [gentoo-user] installing systemd

2013-08-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: (I brought an old system upto the state of my real one and am trying to follow the wiki for converting to systemd). I am upto the part where the wiki says emerge --ask systemd I believe the wiki left out unmerging or something

Re: [gentoo-user] installing systemd

2013-08-05 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Aug 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: (I brought an old system upto the state of my real one and am trying to follow the wiki for converting to systemd). I am upto the part where the wiki says emerge --ask systemd I

Re: [gentoo-user] installing systemd

2013-08-05 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:59 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Mon, Aug 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: (I brought an old system upto the state of my real one and am trying to follow the wiki for converting to systemd). I am upto the

Re: [gentoo-user] installing systemd

2013-08-05 Thread gottlieb
On Mon, Aug 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 9:59 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Mon, Aug 05 2013, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 8:26 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: (I brought an old system upto the state of my real one and am trying to follow