Re: [gentoo-user] -flto set for simh-3.9.0-r1 let gcc fail on my Beaglebone Black

2013-08-09 Thread Adam Carter
I already tried do set new CFLAGS via /etc/portage/env/nolto.conf: beagleboneblack:portage/package.envcat simh app-emulation/simh no-lto.conf and and an according file in /etc/porttage/package.env: beagleboneblack:portage/package.envcat simh app-emulation/simh no-lto.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.08.2013 07:19, schrieb Samuli Suominen: 2.02.99-r1 has it's own upstream systemd files in ~arch now (they are different from what the systemd-love overlay has, AFAIK) $ qlist lvm2 |grep systemd /usr/lib/systemd/system/dm-event.socket /usr/lib/systemd/system/dm-event.service

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread András Csányi
On 7 August 2013 02:38, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I was so hot to prove to myself that I could do the Big Update on both systemd and openrc gentoo machines that I didn't spend much time actually *using* gnome-3.8 until yesterday. Have you ever lived or worked in a building during a big

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 09.08.2013 11:13, schrieb András Csányi: Kde is not a possible solution for you? I'm just asking, I do not want to start a flamewar about which is the better/worst. :) That's the reason why I have kde and xfce on my machine. I always have a fallback plan. I spend I few weeks for Unity

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2013 11:15, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 09.08.2013 11:13, schrieb András Csányi: Kde is not a possible solution for you? I'm just asking, I do not want to start a flamewar about which is the better/worst. :) That's the reason why I have kde and xfce on my machine. I always have

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-01 2:43 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:28:38 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from udev to eudev. emerge -Ca udev emerge -1a eudev

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 09 Aug 2013 11:33:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. Is there any advantage in a KDE user switching to systemd? I've seen the arguments for and

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 09/08/2013 13:19, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 09 Aug 2013 11:33:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. Is there any advantage in a KDE

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:12:50 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from udev to eudev. emerge -Ca udev emerge -1a eudev Two last questions (first one never got answered,

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:33:53AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. This would be a _very_ good post to end this thread upon. Too bad there's not an

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Tanstaafl
On 2013-08-09 8:24 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 07:12:50 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: I've googled until my fingers are blue, but cannot for the life of me find any explicit instructions for *how* to switch from udev to eudev. emerge -Ca udev emerge -1a eudev

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread hasufell
On 08/09/2013 02:25 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:33:53AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. This would be a _very_ good post to

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Bruce Hill
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO filter messages. using D has worked to prune the list. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Henry W. Peters
On 8/9/2013 8:58 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO filter messages. using D has worked to prune the list. Do not really wish to

Re: [gentoo-user] -flto set for simh-3.9.0-r1 let gcc fail on my Beaglebone Black

2013-08-09 Thread meino . cramer
Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com [13-08-09 17:27]: I already tried do set new CFLAGS via /etc/portage/env/nolto.conf: beagleboneblack:portage/package.envcat simh app-emulation/simh no-lto.conf and and an according file in /etc/porttage/package.env:

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

2013-08-09 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote: On 8/9/2013 8:58 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:48:21PM +0200, hasufell wrote: You can use a proper mail client and filter messages. I use the most proper mail client, but have never read HOW-TO

Re: [gentoo-user] -flto set for simh-3.9.0-r1 let gcc fail on my Beaglebone Black

2013-08-09 Thread meino . cramer
meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de [13-08-09 18:32]: Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com [13-08-09 17:27]: I already tried do set new CFLAGS via /etc/portage/env/nolto.conf: beagleboneblack:portage/package.envcat simh app-emulation/simh no-lto.conf and and an

Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from old udev to eudev

2013-08-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 08:45:47 -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: No, the virtual is always needed, eudev satisfies it. but you do need to make sure your USE settings for eudev and virtual/udev match. Ok... so, as long as I don't have anything for either of them in package.use, I'm ok? Or -

Re: [gentoo-user] -flto set for simh-3.9.0-r1 let gcc fail on my Beaglebone Black

2013-08-09 Thread Adam Carter
For me I need to know, whether it is safe to recompile gcc natively on the beaglebone with lto support enabled via USE flag. This compilation will take about eight hours. So it would be fine to decide on a little bit more than try and error. ;) Or how can I circumvent the described