Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
because you wrote poll: $ loginctl show-session 1 Id=1 Timestamp=Mo 2014-02-10 08:45:40 CET TimestampMonotonic=28555352 VTNr=7 Display=:0 Remote=no Service=gdm-password Scope=session-1.scope Leader=1352 Audit=1 Type=x11 Class=user Active=yes State=active IdleHint=no IdleSinceHint=0

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 10 February 2014 09:13:37 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: because you wrote poll: $ loginctl show-session 1 Id=1 Timestamp=Mo 2014-02-10 08:45:40 CET TimestampMonotonic=28555352 VTNr=7 Display=:0 Remote=no Service=gdm-password Scope=session-1.scope Leader=1352 Audit=1 Type=x11

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 10/02/14 00:43, walt wrote: Recent threads about consolekit vs logind(systemd) have made me curious, so I've been studying... A few of us have had recent problems with things like plugging USB sticks, which once worked transparently but now require root privileges. I've discovered that

[gentoo-user] Re: module woes

2014-02-10 Thread James
William Kenworthy billk at iinet.net.au writes: I had this problem back a few months and I had made a typo in grub so the kernels were not loading the correct initrd. BillK I'm using grub2. Can you be a bit more specific? James

[gentoo-user] Re: module woes

2014-02-10 Thread James
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes: What is stumping me is why all three kernels boot, but the modules only point to 3.10.25, even when boot either the second (kernel-3.13.0-gentoo-r1) kernel or the third (config-3.13.1-gentoo) kernel. I apologise if what I suggest has already

[gentoo-user] Re: module woes

2014-02-10 Thread James
walt w41ter at gmail.com writes: Baffling things happen to me when I compile modules with /usr/src/linux pointing to the wrong sources. Worth a quick look. -rw-r--r-- 1 root0 Dec 25 21:19 .keep lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 20 Feb 2 04:01 linux - linux-3.13.1-gentoo/ nope.it's fine.

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:36 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On 10 February 2014 09:13:37 CET, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: because you wrote poll: $ loginctl show-session 1 Id=1 Timestamp=Mo 2014-02-10 08:45:40 CET TimestampMonotonic=28555352 VTNr=7 Display=:0

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: because you wrote poll: Sorry? Who wrote poll where? $ loginctl show-session 1 Id=1 Timestamp=Mo 2014-02-10 08:45:40 CET TimestampMonotonic=28555352 VTNr=7 Display=:0 Remote=no Service=gdm-password

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 4:52 AM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 10/02/14 00:43, walt wrote: Recent threads about consolekit vs logind(systemd) have made me curious, so I've been studying... A few of us have had recent problems with things like plugging USB sticks, which once

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 10.02.2014 16:12, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: because you wrote poll: Sorry? Who wrote poll where? Subject of mail ... afai see. S

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 10.02.2014 16:13, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I would not expect to have to type I the local root password when administering something on a remote host. And you don't need to with logind. logind runs here as well. What to change? Wher to put that startx -- vt01 in my case (systemd,

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:50 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 10.02.2014 16:12, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: because you wrote poll: Sorry? Who wrote poll where? Subject of mail ... afai see.

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 10.02.2014 16:13, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I would not expect to have to type I the local root password when administering something on a remote host. And you don't need to with logind. logind runs here as

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 10.02.2014 16:55, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Stefan, I'm not following you. Do you have the same problem that Walt has? In your DE you are being asked for your root password when you insert a USB stick or when you power off the machine from the menu? Only when I start virtual machine

[gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. User is in the portage group: $ whoami stroller $ groups stroller wheel

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 10.02.2014 16:55, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: Stefan, I'm not following you. Do you have the same problem that Walt has? In your DE you are being asked for your root password when you insert a USB stick or when

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Gleb Klochkov
Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. 10.02.2014 20:07 пользователь Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk написал: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/02/2014 18:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. I don't sync as user alan, I let

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group portage is not enough. That merely lets

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/02/2014 21:03, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 19:03, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather not. Thanks, though. Being in group

[gentoo-user] Re: User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread eroen
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 14:03:44 -0500, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkov glebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 16:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage tree. User is in the portage group: $

Re: [gentoo-user] [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 10.02.2014 17:11, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: I remeber something similar when I was running gnome-boxes. However, nowadays I use qemu directly; it never asks for my root password. I run it as a normal user, obviously. I don't know if this is related to logind. looked through the files

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 19:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 10/02/2014 21:03, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:09:55PM +, Stroller wrote On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 4:55 pm, Gleb Klochkovglebiu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Try to use sudo with no password for eix-sync. I'd really rather

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How recent? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see that the email file suffix changed from

[gentoo-user] Re: [poll] What is your session state?

2014-02-10 Thread walt
On 02/09/2014 06:06 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Feb 9, 2014 at 4:43 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Recent threads about consolekit vs logind(systemd) have made me curious, so I've been studying... A few of us have had recent problems with things like plugging USB sticks, which

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 11:57 pm, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: ... There is no subsequent requirement not to invoke emerge --sync as root. What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? To reduce the number of times the

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Stroller
On Tue, 11 February 2014, at 12:05 am, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 10 February 2014, at 11:57 pm, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: ... There is no subsequent requirement not to invoke emerge --sync as root. What's the point, if you still have to run as

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How recent? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see that

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 10/02/2014 20:30, Kerin Millar wrote: On 10/02/2014 16:05, Stroller wrote: Hello all, I'm a little bit rusty, but my recollection is that I should be able to perform `eix-sync` (or `emerge --sync`?) as a user to synchronise my local copy of the portage tree with Gentoo's master portage

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the principle of least privilege. Is there any specific reason for portage to

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Kerin Millar
On 11/02/2014 01:23, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the principle of least privilege. Is there

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 01:57, Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:10:50PM +, Kerin Millar wrote As mentioned in a few other posts, recent snapshots are portage:portage throughout so it's a done deal for new installations. How recent? Looking back into ~/Maildir/spam/cur/ I see

Re: [gentoo-user] User eix-sync permissions problem

2014-02-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/02/2014 03:23, Walter Dnes wrote: On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:28:43AM +, Kerin Millar wrote On 10/02/2014 23:57, Walter Dnes wrote: What's the point, if you still have to run as root (or su or sudo) for the emerge update process? It's the principle of least privilege. Is there