Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie
On 28/02/14 08:47, Stroller wrote: On Wed, 26 February 2014, at 8:29 pm, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: … * Netscape (under AOL) aimed at becoming a pseudo-OS on top of Windows. We know how that turned out. You appear to be underestimating it - whilst the AOL suite was hated by many of those forced to use it (I guess in the late 90's or early 00's), it is / was so massively popular with grannies that it is still available today. Dial-up division is still AOL's most profitable division, earning them $500m per year,[1] and I would attribute the popularity of the AOL desktop suite to this. I've seen this profitability attributed to misinformed customers who don't know they no-longer need AOL now they have DSL, but having been told by a number of people that all they want out of their computer is their AOL, I find it had to agree with that characterisation. AOL's desktop suite has certainly not been a failure for the company. Stroller. [1] http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/02/18/aol-dial-up-profits/ This must be a US -only thing since I've never even heard of AOL desktop/suite before, even while lived through the 90's and the bulletin board times (as being a SysOp myself ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Peeve - finding kernel config options
On 02/28/2014 02:31 AM, walt wrote: On 02/27/2014 09:58 AM, thegeezer wrote: wow, it's been years that i've been staring at it and trying to find device drivers with bleary eyes. I'm having cataract surgery next month. Care to join me? ;) yikes at 39? i can't believe i have missed the obvious for so very long thanks! always happy to learn new things I just checked the gentoo-user archives and found that you've been posting here for many moons, but flying below my radar until very recently. Why? Because you've been posting into threads that are way above my pay grade, so I haven't been reading them :/ Anyway, a belated welcome to the mailing list and thanks for the valuable info you've been sharing with us. thanks, very happy to be here as it is also a treasure trove of valuable information :) BTW, based on the content of your posts I'd estimate that you're roughly two years older than I am, which would make you about 41, right? good guess, actually ~35
[gentoo-user] [OT?] How to get WebDAV going on Apache?
Hello list, Apologies if this is off-topic here but I don't know where else to ask. I'm having trouble getting owncloud installed on my LAN mini-server. Its post-inst check complains the WebDAV interface seems to be broken. I found this how-to but it's getting long in the tooth: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-338668-start-0.html If I include all the extras under IfModule mod_dav.c I get permission refused to run post-inst-check, even if I comment out the Limit block. I did do the parts about /var/dav, /var/lib/dav and htpasswd. I've added DAV and DAV_FS to APACHE2_OPTS in /etc/conf.d/apache2, but when I restart apache no DAV module is listed in the output from apache2 -M. Can anyone see what I'm missing? -- Regards Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] How to get WebDAV going on Apache?
On Fri, 28 Feb 2014 10:55:59 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: Apologies if this is off-topic here but I don't know where else to ask. I'm having trouble getting owncloud installed on my LAN mini-server. Its post-inst check complains the WebDAV interface seems to be broken. It works for me here. I found this how-to but it's getting long in the tooth: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-338668-start-0.html If I include all the extras under IfModule mod_dav.c I get permission refused to run post-inst-check, even if I comment out the Limit block.I did do the parts about /var/dav, /var/lib/dav and htpasswd. I didn't need to do any of that. I've added DAV and DAV_FS to APACHE2_OPTS in /etc/conf.d/apache2, but when I restart apache no DAV module is listed in the output from apache2 -M. Do you have the modules installed? Here APACHE_MODULES contains dav dav_fs dav_lock and /etc/conf.d/apache2 has only one line APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D INFO -D SSL -D SSL_DEFAULT_VHOST -D LANGUAGE -D SUEXEC -D PHP5 -D PHP -D DAV -- Neil Bothwick Stupid user error. Terminate user (Y/n) ? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] How to get WebDAV going on Apache?
On 28 Feb 2014 16:26, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hello list, Apologies if this is off-topic here but I don't know where else to ask. I'm having trouble getting owncloud installed on my LAN mini-server. Its post-inst check complains the WebDAV interface seems to be broken. I found this how-to but it's getting long in the tooth: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-338668-start-0.html If I include all the extras under IfModule mod_dav.c I get permission refused to run post-inst-check, even if I comment out the Limit block. I did do the parts about /var/dav, /var/lib/dav and htpasswd. I've added DAV and DAV_FS to APACHE2_OPTS in /etc/conf.d/apache2, but when I restart apache no DAV module is listed in the output from apache2 -M. Can anyone see what I'm missing? -- Regards Peter You don't need moddav for owncloud. Owncloud implements it via php.
Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie
On Fri, 28 February 2014, at 8:05 am, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: … * Netscape (under AOL) aimed at becoming a pseudo-OS on top of Windows. We know how that turned out. You appear to be underestimating it - whilst the AOL suite was hated by many of those forced to use it (I guess in the late 90's or early 00's), it is / was so massively popular with grannies that it is still available today. ... AOL's desktop suite has certainly not been a failure for the company. This must be a US -only thing since I've never even heard of AOL desktop/suite before, even while lived through the 90's and the bulletin board times (as being a SysOp myself ;-) I'm in the UK, myself. The AOL software is browser, email, IM and ads, all wrapped up in a single Windows application. http://i.imgur.com/bUin2ki.png I doubt there's anyone on this list who wouldn't find it obnoxious, but there are people who are really happy with it. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] what is lvmetad?
In the newest lvm, there is something called lvmetad, but it won't start because /run/lvm is missing. When I created by hand, it then started, but when I then started lvm which would not start without lvmetad, it said lvmetad was started, but disabled. Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Thanks. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] what is lvmetad?
On 28/02/2014 21:12, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: In the newest lvm, there is something called lvmetad, but it won't start because /run/lvm is missing. When I created by hand, it then started, but when I then started lvm which would not start without lvmetad, it said lvmetad was started, but disabled. Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Thanks. the ebuild issues an elog: * Make sure the lvm init script is in the runlevels: * # rc-update add lvm boot * * Make sure to enable lvmetad in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf if you want * to enable lvm autoactivation and metadata caching. Did you notice it and follow it? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] what is lvmetad?
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/02/2014 21:12, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: In the newest lvm, there is something called lvmetad, but it won't start because /run/lvm is missing. When I created by hand, it then started, but when I then started lvm which would not start without lvmetad, it said lvmetad was started, but disabled. Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Thanks. the ebuild issues an elog: * Make sure the lvm init script is in the runlevels: * # rc-update add lvm boot * * Make sure to enable lvmetad in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf if you want * to enable lvm autoactivation and metadata caching. Did you notice it and follow it? I did not ignore, but I could not find where use_lvmetad was and up till now it never made any difference, but I see where it is. but lvmetad would not start at all till I manually created /run/lvm. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: [gentoo-user] what is lvmetad?
On 28/02/2014 21:47, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/02/2014 21:12, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: In the newest lvm, there is something called lvmetad, but it won't start because /run/lvm is missing. When I created by hand, it then started, but when I then started lvm which would not start without lvmetad, it said lvmetad was started, but disabled. Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Thanks. the ebuild issues an elog: * Make sure the lvm init script is in the runlevels: * # rc-update add lvm boot * * Make sure to enable lvmetad in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf if you want * to enable lvm autoactivation and metadata caching. Did you notice it and follow it? I did not ignore, but I could not find where use_lvmetad was and up till now it never made any difference, but I see where it is. but lvmetad would not start at all till I manually created /run/lvm. /run is a tmpfs, so something must mkdir it as startup time. I reckon that is device-mapper: $ grep /run/lvm * device-mapper: checkpath -q -d -m 0700 -o root:root /run/lvm /run/lock/lvm lvmetad:pidfile=/var/run/lvmetad.pid Do you have device-mapper configured to run? I must admit I see oddities sometimes on my lvm-enabled hosts where the /var/run - /run symlinks are missing. I think you should file a bug, either the code is wrong or the docs/elogs are insufficient here -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] what is lvmetad?
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/02/2014 21:47, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 28/02/2014 21:12, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: In the newest lvm, there is something called lvmetad, but it won't start because /run/lvm is missing. When I created by hand, it then started, but when I then started lvm which would not start without lvmetad, it said lvmetad was started, but disabled. Can anyone tell me what is going on here? Thanks. the ebuild issues an elog: * Make sure the lvm init script is in the runlevels: * # rc-update add lvm boot * * Make sure to enable lvmetad in /etc/lvm/lvm.conf if you want * to enable lvm autoactivation and metadata caching. Did you notice it and follow it? I did not ignore, but I could not find where use_lvmetad was and up till now it never made any difference, but I see where it is. but lvmetad would not start at all till I manually created /run/lvm. /run is a tmpfs, so something must mkdir it as startup time. I reckon that is device-mapper: $ grep /run/lvm * device-mapper: checkpath -q -d -m 0700 -o root:root /run/lvm /run/lock/lvm lvmetad:pidfile=/var/run/lvmetad.pid Do you have device-mapper configured to run? I must admit I see oddities sometimes on my lvm-enabled hosts where the /var/run - /run symlinks are missing. I think you should file a bug, either the code is wrong or the docs/elogs are insufficient here Maybe I will do that as the lvmetad is started before devicemapper if I remember correctly or somehow the dependencies are wrong. I am not sure why its a requirement, I don't scan new lvm volumes very often at all, so its not saving any time, if that is why it exists. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
