Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing the button Details,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Dale
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:52:00 AM Alan Grimes wrote: That said, I spent the day doing diagnostics: Findings: 1. There were a hell of a lot more memory errors than I had seen before. 2. There was a smudge on one of the dimm's contacts and some of the usual

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:34:24 PM Rod wrote: Hi List, I am having problems compiling Snort :( I have tried emerge snort Also tried compiling in the comandline I have tried all my installed gcc profiles... # gcc-config -l [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Rod r...@rods.id.au wrote: Hi List, I am having problems compiling Snort :( I have tried emerge snort Also tried compiling in the comandline I have tried all my installed gcc profiles... # gcc-config -l [1]

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root password. The window title is PolicyKit - KDE and pressing

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?

2015-08-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 03:08:41 waben...@gmail.com wrote: walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seeing horrible performance from the xfce window manager (xfwm4) on my main, everyday machine, but not on an older backup machine or on any of the linux virtual machines I run on virtualbox. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Install PreQualifying Matrix

2015-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:29 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: for (BS) Big Science, imho. BS needs all resources solving and supporting a single problem, with as low of latency as possible. What kind of latency are you expecting to get

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
(You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: I may have missed something here, but I'm puzzled. Without running an exhaustive search, the only \*baloo\* or \*nepomuk\* files I see on this box are these: $ find . -name \*baloo\*

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Dale
Peter Humphrey wrote: (You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 09:18:05 Dale wrote: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:52:00 AM Alan Grimes wrote: That said, I spent the day doing diagnostics: Findings: 1. There were a hell of a lot more memory errors than I had seen before. 2. There was a

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 12:07:00 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: (You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2015 13:25, Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 09:18:05 Dale wrote: Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:52:00 AM Alan Grimes wrote: That said, I spent the day doing diagnostics: Findings: 1. There were a hell of a lot more memory errors than I had seen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 1:52:00 AM Alan Grimes wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: Please don't bother this list with more of your complaining until you grow up and learn how to use computers properly. I built my first machine nearly a quarter century ago. =| Shame! That said, I spent the

[gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Rod
Hi List, I am having problems compiling Snort :( I have tried emerge snort Also tried compiling in the comandline I have tried all my installed gcc profiles... # gcc-config -l [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.5.4 [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.6.4 [3] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.7.3

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote: There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed. I haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I did notice a batch of news files going by during a recent

[gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread hw
Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace != with ne (if ($a ne $a) {), it doesn't print. Is that a bug or a feature? And if it's a feature, what's the explanation?

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Rod
On 08/22/2015 06:33 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:34:24 PM Rod wrote: Hi List, I am having problems compiling Snort :( I have tried emerge snort Also tried compiling in the comandline I have tried all my installed gcc

Re: [gentoo-user] use CGI::FormBuilder::Multi; ...

2015-08-22 Thread hw
Am 21.08.2015 um 21:18 schrieb Fernando Rodriguez: On Friday, August 21, 2015 12:36:59 PM hw wrote: Hi, any idea why Umlaute are not displayed correctly when they appear in text generated from the FormBuilder module? When looking at the source of the form in the web browser, it has: ?xml

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2015 15:26, hw wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace != with ne (if ($a ne $a) {), it doesn't print. Is that a bug or a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 12:47:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 22/08/2015 13:25, Mick wrote: Then try a replacement PSU if you have a spare one, or take your multimeter and measure the output, checking for lower voltage values and fluctuations. If you get bad measurements, then take your

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread hw
Am 22.08.2015 um 15:43 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 22/08/2015 15:26, hw wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace != with ne (if ($a ne $a) {), it doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread R0b0t1
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-off_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_epsilon Either add a tolerance (a - b = t) or compare them as strings as you've been doing.

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Mick
On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 14:13:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote: There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed. I haven't seen that before - I'd better look into it. I

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:26:56 PM hw wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace != with ne (if ($a ne $a) {), it doesn't print. Is

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 12:07:00 Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: (You're up early! :) ) On Saturday 22 August 2015 05:03:31 Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 11:04:42 PM Rod wrote: On 08/22/2015 06:33 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:34:24 PM Rod wrote: Hi List, I am having problems compiling Snort :( I have tried emerge snort Also tried compiling in

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I can tell you that equality comparisons on floats are problematic, and always will be due to how they are stored (double-precision floats, inhernetly inexact). This is not a problem per se, it's a systemic side

Re: [gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-22 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sat, 22 Aug 2015 17:15:38 -0400 schrieb Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:52:47 PM allan gottlieb wrote: I use systemd and wish to employ timers an analogue of cron.daily. The system is a laptop that is normally turned off each evening.

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 8:27:17 AM Rod wrote: Snipped out the previous, takes a while to scroll... On 08/23/2015 07:40 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: Post the output of: emerge -vap snort and then: USE=normalizer emerge -vap snort The only way NormFlags is left out (as far as I

Re: [gentoo-user] Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 3:19:50 PM Alan Grimes wrote: Isn't this the filthiest oscilloscope u've seen recently? The only bare metal contact that I could safely use to get a reading off was a +12v line on a spare PCI-E gpu plug. The ground reference is the chassis. You can see the

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Aug 22 2015, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: I can tell you that equality comparisons on floats are problematic, and always will be due to how they are stored (double-precision floats, inhernetly inexact). This is not

Re: [gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 10:17:04 PM allan gottlieb wrote: On Sat, Aug 22 2015, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Sat, 22 Aug 2015 17:15:38 -0400 schrieb Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:52:47 PM allan gottlieb wrote: I use systemd and wish

Re: [gentoo-user] Filthy oscilloscope picture! =P

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2015 21:19, Alan Grimes wrote: Isn't this the filthiest oscilloscope u've seen recently? I've seen cleaner. And dirtier. The only bare metal contact that I could safely use to get a reading off was a +12v line on a spare PCI-E gpu plug. The ground reference is the chassis. You

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Rod
On 08/23/2015 08:59 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 8:27:17 AM Rod wrote: Snipped out the previous, takes a while to scroll... On 08/23/2015 07:40 AM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: Post the output of: emerge -vap snort and then: USE=normalizer emerge -vap snort The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?

2015-08-22 Thread bitlord
On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 19:08 -0700, walt wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 04:08:41 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using XFCE as DE and xfwm4 as WM. Since I bought a new GPU (Radeon R7 250), I don't use compositing any more because it causes tearing when I watch videos in fullscreen with

Re: [gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:52:47 PM allan gottlieb wrote: I use systemd and wish to employ timers an analogue of cron.daily. The system is a laptop that is normally turned off each evening. As I read the manuals one can have either a monotone or a realtime timer. But I seem to need

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Paul Colquhoun
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:57:41 hw wrote: Am 22.08.2015 um 15:43 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 22/08/2015 15:26, hw wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e:

Re: [gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Aug 22 2015, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Sat, 22 Aug 2015 17:15:38 -0400 schrieb Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 4:52:47 PM allan gottlieb wrote: I use systemd and wish to employ timers an analogue of cron.daily. The system is a laptop

[gentoo-user] Re: 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread walt
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:57:41 +0200 hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: It is a recipe for disaster when you tell your computer to print something but it prints something else instead. The Android Stagefright exploit is a real-life example of exactly such a disaster. The arithmetic

[gentoo-user] using systemd timers as a cron replacement

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
I use systemd and wish to employ timers an analogue of cron.daily. The system is a laptop that is normally turned off each evening. As I read the manuals one can have either a monotone or a realtime timer. But I seem to need features of each. Specifically, I would like the daily timer to

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:03:31 AM Dale wrote: Peter Humphrey wrote: On Friday 21 August 2015 10:06:15 Francisco Ares wrote: Hi, In fact, I can only suppose there's something related to changing from nepomuk to baloo: Now, every time I log in, a window pops up asking for root

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Dale
Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:03:31 AM Dale wrote: I removed the USE flags here and got this: root@fireball / # emerge -uvaDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ]

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Dale
Alan Grimes wrote: The PSU is an Antec EarthWatts 750. Biggest hoggs outside the motherboard are the, um, er, well [nvidia 980 gpu] and an aging Western Digital Velociraptor boot drive. There is also a 3TB drive for all my p***, er kerbals ( Kerbal Space Program ) . There is one optical

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone using xfce4 with compositing turned off?

2015-08-22 Thread walt
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 04:08:41 +0200 waben...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using XFCE as DE and xfwm4 as WM. Since I bought a new GPU (Radeon R7 250), I don't use compositing any more because it causes tearing when I watch videos in fullscreen with 3840x2160. With this GPU I also had some random

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Fernando Rodriguez
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 7:40:31 PM walt wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:57:41 +0200 hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: It is a recipe for disaster when you tell your computer to print something but it prints something else instead. The Android Stagefright exploit is a real-life

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2015 18:40, Alan Grimes wrote: The PSU is an Antec EarthWatts 750. Biggest hoggs outside the motherboard are the, um, er, well [nvidia 980 gpu] and an aging Western Digital Velociraptor boot drive. There is also a 3TB drive for all my p***, er kerbals ( Kerbal Space Program ) .

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/22/2015 09:42 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-off_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_epsilon Either add a tolerance (a - b = t) or compare them as strings as you've been doing. You probably want |a - b| = t there =) But... that can cause problems too.

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread allan gottlieb
On Sat, Aug 22 2015, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 08/22/2015 09:42 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round-off_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_epsilon Either add a tolerance (a - b = t) or compare them as strings as you've been doing. You probably want |a - b| =

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2015 16:57, hw wrote: Am 22.08.2015 um 15:43 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 22/08/2015 15:26, hw wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace !=

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 22/08/2015 17:38, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 4:26 PM, hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/22/2015 01:27 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: Floating point addition isn't even commutative: 0.1 + 0.2 + 0.3 0.6001 0.1 + (0.2 + 0.3) 0.6 That demonstrates non-associativity. I believe floating point is commutative: a+b = b+a Derp, thanks, you're right =)

Re: [gentoo-user] nepomuk gone, baloo enters

2015-08-22 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 22 August 2015 14:48:18 Mick wrote: On Saturday 22 Aug 2015 14:13:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Saturday 22 August 2015 12:37:01 Mick wrote: There was an e-news item: 2015-08-11-nepomuk-removal Oo-er. Eselect news list here shows all news items as having been removed.

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 4:26 PM, hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That will print: e: '69.99', t: '69.99' When I replace != with ne (if ($a ne $a) {), it doesn't

[gentoo-user] Re: Install PreQualifying Matrix

2015-08-22 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: Don't get me wrong - I appreciate the desire for bare-metal performance in the high-performance computing world. I've heard stories/rumors of Gentoo getting attention elsewhere in this domain, and we have a disproportionate number of physical

Re: [gentoo-user] 69.99 != 69.99

2015-08-22 Thread Franz Fellner
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 16:57:41 +0200, hw h...@gartencenter-vaehning.de wrote: Am 22.08.2015 um 15:43 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On 22/08/2015 15:26, hw wrote: Hi, I have the following in a perl script: if ($a != $b) { print e: '$a', t: '$b'\n; } That

Re: [gentoo-user] Snort compiling problems

2015-08-22 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Rod r...@rods.id.au wrote: On 08/22/2015 06:33 PM, Fernando Rodriguez wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 5:34:24 PM Rod wrote: Hi List, I am having problems compiling Snort :( I have tried emerge snort Also tried compiling in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Epic list of total FAIL.

2015-08-22 Thread Alan Grimes
The PSU is an Antec EarthWatts 750. Biggest hoggs outside the motherboard are the, um, er, well [nvidia 980 gpu] and an aging Western Digital Velociraptor boot drive. There is also a 3TB drive for all my p***, er kerbals ( Kerbal Space Program ) . There is one optical drive and four chassis