Re: [gentoo-user] Holy Quran in all languages Available
On Tue, 2016-07-26 at 14:23 -0500, R0b0t1 wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=talqltbOsNU > > Won't be praying for you, so don't be praying for me. > Silence http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/sounds-silence-simon-garfunkel -islam-video
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Holy Quran in all languages Available
Ian Blosswrote: > Meh, OP's the one posting this in a distro discussion mailing list And this was a bad idea. But IMO it was also a bad idea to respond. I think that we don't need any religious discussions here. Apart from that, top posting sucks. ;-) -- Regards wabe > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016, 19:18 Deven Lahoti wrote: > > > make America great again amirite? is this the level of shitpost > > we're falling to? > > > > On Jul 26, 2016 22:13, "James" wrote: > > > >> uniq-star.com> writes: > >> > >> > Quran in 55 languages > >> > >> > http://www.truemuslims.net > >> > >> > >> tl;dr > >> > >> Here is a quick reference:: > >> > >> http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx > >> > >> > >> James > >> > >> > >>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Holy Quran in all languages Available
Meh, OP's the one posting this in a distro discussion mailing list On Tue, Jul 26, 2016, 19:18 Deven Lahotiwrote: > make America great again amirite? is this the level of shitpost we're > falling to? > > On Jul 26, 2016 22:13, "James" wrote: > >> uniq-star.com> writes: >> >> > Quran in 55 languages >> >> > http://www.truemuslims.net >> >> >> tl;dr >> >> Here is a quick reference:: >> >> http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx >> >> >> James >> >> >>
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Holy Quran in all languages Available
make America great again amirite? is this the level of shitpost we're falling to? On Jul 26, 2016 22:13, "James"wrote: > uniq-star.com> writes: > > > Quran in 55 languages > > > http://www.truemuslims.net > > > tl;dr > > Here is a quick reference:: > > http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx > > > James > > >
[gentoo-user] Re: Holy Quran in all languages Available
uniq-star.com> writes: > Quran in 55 languages > http://www.truemuslims.net tl;dr Here is a quick reference:: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx James
Re: [gentoo-user] Holy Quran in all languages Available
You can't convert us from the church of Gentoo On Tue, Jul 26, 2016, 16:48 R0b0t1wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Landis Blackwell > wrote: > > y u no snackbar? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_War > > dw, had a snickers and chewed it over with a twix. > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Holy Quran in all languages Available
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Landis Blackwellwrote: > y u no snackbar? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_River_War dw, had a snickers and chewed it over with a twix.
Re: [gentoo-user] Holy Quran in all languages Available
y u no snackbar? On 7/26/2016 2:23 PM, R0b0t1 wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=talqltbOsNU Won't be praying for you, so don't be praying for me.
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Andrew Lowewrote: > Anyone got any idea as to what has changed? What should I be looking > for to fiddle to get my preferred behaviour, modem/machine startup in any > order and I'll get an IP address. Is there a dchp "polling time" or > something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? Newer dhcpcds can be configured to request an address when an interface goes up. Did a change in settings slip through a dispatch-conf? (Aside: This is the main cause of network issues when dhcpcd is installed and a dhcpd is not running.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness
On 26/07/2016 18:53, Andrew Lowe wrote: On 27/07/16 00:10, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 26/07/2016 18:01, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. Then something changed. One day I forgot to turn on the modem first. I turned the machine on then realised the modem wasn't on, I turned it, the modem, on and prepared to reboot the machine only to see an IP address appear. It appeared that dhcp was now periodically attempting to get an address whereas in the past, if on boot it didn't find one, that was it, it just gave up. It appears that my machine has now, for some reason reverted to "the olden days" of IP address allocation. No modem at boot, no IP address. Reboot the machine, with the modem continuing to run, and I get an IP address. When I have no IP address, I can run "dhcpcd restart" and I'll get one. Anyone got any idea as to what has changed? What should I be looking for to fiddle to get my preferred behaviour, modem/machine startup in any order and I'll get an IP address. Is there a dchp "polling time" or something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? Thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew There's no single global default, that is set is whatever dhcp client you are using. Which one is it? dhcpcd Thanks. What's in your /etc/dhcpcd.conf and related network configs/settings?
Re: [gentoo-user] Holy Quran in all languages Available
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=talqltbOsNU Won't be praying for you, so don't be praying for me.
[gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format
Tom H gmail.com> writes: > > > I you're using GTP but want to stick to MBR, then you create 1MB > > > partition to hold the boot loader, then /boot and the rest. Hello, The idea is to be able to set up a batch of 2T+ disks now and in the future, all pretty much the same (generic) layout for both bios based systems and efi systems, so the drives do not have to have the partition tables changed. A standard partition scheme will put the extra disk space (according to size) all into the /usr/local partition. A wide variety of File systems will be imposed on the /usr/local and maybe the other (3) partitions:: /; /boot/: /usr File systems can change, especially what is on /usr/local. Distributed file systems will be routinely tested too. All drive will keep the default boot-drive partitions, maybe for multiple different systems/kernels (all linux though) so if a drive is to be used as a non-boot drive, the some of the partitions may not be mounted for a particular experiment (cluster/codes) configuration. I hope this clearly states the ultimate goal so the myriad of bios systems I have can be used, but also the same scheme with many new embedded and efi based systems with many different processors (and Soc) on the mobo. Much of the testing will be only changing codes on gentoo systems. But there will be time when a *buntu cluster is tested, keeping all the hardware identically the same as a gentoo reference run. Testing a wide (wild?) variety of clusters will constantly mix and match disks to various motherboards and embedded systems (with sata) interfaces. So what I'm looking for is for someone to edit the partition table I post below, so that it looks like what I need. I have tons of verbiage of what to do, but not a single, example partition table of what it would actually look like (perhaps as viewed by several different (CLI) partitioning tools (gdisk, fdisk, parted) to highlight the minutia of the partition table.. A companion fstab (ext2/3/4) that works, would be keenly appreciated. I only ask because I have failed at this effort in the past and currently. > > > About the 100MB EFI-partition: it's a Microsoft recommendation: > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition, read the > > > "create the partition" section. I intend to only use grub-legacy for this effort. But, some explanation as to when I would absolutely need grub-2, if that case even exists, would be keen knowledge to have. Some other common distros, when I cannot get something to work with gentoo, would be alpine and arch, when a gentoo solution evades me. I might even spin up a complete (DC/OS) like mesosphere or CoreOS for benchmarking. The idea is to take a small cluster and spin it up with several different (cluster centric) solutions to problems and measure the performance in a variety of test surveys. The suspected outcome is that gentoo that is minimized and optimize (including kernel and compiler and framework tweaks), is always the performance king of the clusters. At this point my evidence is anecdotal and not 'publishable grade'. I want to be fair to the bloated vendor communities and have a consistent hardware platform, for these test-surveys. Additionally, searching out details of kernel tweaks that optimize a particular problem-set of cluster-code-solutions is also of keen interest to me. > > Please bottom-post. Agreed. > > The OP wants a partition scheme for both "standard" and efi firmware, > > so he wants an EF02 (gdisk name) of 1MB and an EF00 (also gdisk name). Guys, the drives are 2T and larger, so the ridiculously largest partition size needed in the worst case scenario, that works as specd-above is the best answer. > > The OP wanted the EF02 to be mounted as "/boot" so it has to be larger > > than 100MB in order to accommodate multiple kernels (and possibly > > initramfs "thingies" as they're sometimes called here). I have never had a linux system with less than 6 kernels, often many more, just for that one system. I use to hack kernels for breakfast (2.2-early 3.x) so yes tons of space for kernel hackery is warranted. All kernels will also be archived to a separate backup machine/system. Kernel tweaks (as found in kernel sources, as well as many codes in the wild, pretty much means that endless kernel tests are warranted and that does require gigs of disk space and organized back end storage and notations. > Then the OP is lucky as the handbook describes this exact scheme the OP > wants. Only one adjustment should be considered - I would recommend > around 500 MB for /boot if the OP wants to use multiple systems and if > disk space is of no special concern. I was think 2G for /boot. Here is a common partition table and subsequent fstab that folks are encourage to edit as to what they would use for this universal partitioning scheme. #parted -l /dev/sda Model: ATA WDC WD20EARX-00P (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 2000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B Partition
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: GPT newbee needs some help
An alternate workaround that I found (I had the same issue) is to run partprobe. It'll find them and add them to /dec whether you have kernel support for GPT or not.
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness
On 27/07/16 00:10, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 26/07/2016 18:01, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. Then something changed. One day I forgot to turn on the modem first. I turned the machine on then realised the modem wasn't on, I turned it, the modem, on and prepared to reboot the machine only to see an IP address appear. It appeared that dhcp was now periodically attempting to get an address whereas in the past, if on boot it didn't find one, that was it, it just gave up. It appears that my machine has now, for some reason reverted to "the olden days" of IP address allocation. No modem at boot, no IP address. Reboot the machine, with the modem continuing to run, and I get an IP address. When I have no IP address, I can run "dhcpcd restart" and I'll get one. Anyone got any idea as to what has changed? What should I be looking for to fiddle to get my preferred behaviour, modem/machine startup in any order and I'll get an IP address. Is there a dchp "polling time" or something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? Thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew There's no single global default, that is set is whatever dhcp client you are using. Which one is it? dhcpcd
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness
W dniu 2016-07-26 18:01, Andrew Lowe pisze: Hi all, I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. Then something changed. One day I forgot to turn on the modem first. I turned the machine on then realised the modem wasn't on, I turned it, the modem, on and prepared to reboot the machine only to see an IP address appear. It appeared that dhcp was now periodically attempting to get an address whereas in the past, if on boot it didn't find one, that was it, it just gave up. It appears that my machine has now, for some reason reverted to "the olden days" of IP address allocation. No modem at boot, no IP address. Reboot the machine, with the modem continuing to run, and I get an IP address. When I have no IP address, I can run "dhcpcd restart" and I'll get one. Anyone got any idea as to what has changed? What should I be looking for to fiddle to get my preferred behaviour, modem/machine startup in any order and I'll get an IP address. Is there a dchp "polling time" or something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? Thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew Hi Andrew, You can set-up a deamon to "monitor" your desired interface and try to acquire connection whenever possible. The handbook introduces ifplugd and also mentions netplug - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Networking/Dynamic. -- Artur
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness
W dniu 2016-07-26 18:01, Andrew Lowe pisze: Hi all, I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. Then something changed. One day I forgot to turn on the modem first. I turned the machine on then realised the modem wasn't on, I turned it, the modem, on and prepared to reboot the machine only to see an IP address appear. It appeared that dhcp was now periodically attempting to get an address whereas in the past, if on boot it didn't find one, that was it, it just gave up. It appears that my machine has now, for some reason reverted to "the olden days" of IP address allocation. No modem at boot, no IP address. Reboot the machine, with the modem continuing to run, and I get an IP address. When I have no IP address, I can run "dhcpcd restart" and I'll get one. Anyone got any idea as to what has changed? What should I be looking for to fiddle to get my preferred behaviour, modem/machine startup in any order and I'll get an IP address. Is there a dchp "polling time" or something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? Thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew Hi Andrew, You can set-up a deamon to "monitor" your desired interface and try to acquire connection whenever possible. The handbook introduces ifplugd and also mentions netplug - https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Networking/Dynamic. -- Artur
Re: [gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness
On 26/07/2016 18:01, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem > turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. > Then something changed. One day I forgot to turn on the modem first. I > turned the machine on then realised the modem wasn't on, I turned it, > the modem, on and prepared to reboot the machine only to see an IP > address appear. > > It appeared that dhcp was now periodically attempting to get an > address whereas in the past, if on boot it didn't find one, that was it, > it just gave up. It appears that my machine has now, for some reason > reverted to "the olden days" of IP address allocation. No modem at boot, > no IP address. Reboot the machine, with the modem continuing to run, and > I get an IP address. When I have no IP address, I can run "dhcpcd > restart" and I'll get one. > > Anyone got any idea as to what has changed? What should I be looking > for to fiddle to get my preferred behaviour, modem/machine startup in > any order and I'll get an IP address. Is there a dchp "polling time" or > something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? > > Thoughts greatly appreciated, > Andrew > There's no single global default, that is set is whatever dhcp client you are using. Which one is it? -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
[gentoo-user] Machine running before modem turned on - Network weirdness
Hi all, I can remember in the distant past that I had to have my modem turned on before the computer otherwise, I wouldn't get an IP address. Then something changed. One day I forgot to turn on the modem first. I turned the machine on then realised the modem wasn't on, I turned it, the modem, on and prepared to reboot the machine only to see an IP address appear. It appeared that dhcp was now periodically attempting to get an address whereas in the past, if on boot it didn't find one, that was it, it just gave up. It appears that my machine has now, for some reason reverted to "the olden days" of IP address allocation. No modem at boot, no IP address. Reboot the machine, with the modem continuing to run, and I get an IP address. When I have no IP address, I can run "dhcpcd restart" and I'll get one. Anyone got any idea as to what has changed? What should I be looking for to fiddle to get my preferred behaviour, modem/machine startup in any order and I'll get an IP address. Is there a dchp "polling time" or something similar that I need to set to get this running nicely again? Thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:10 AM, Artur Zychwrote: > 26 lip 2016 10:29 "Tom H" napisał(a): >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zych wrote: >>> >>> If you're using GPT disk and want to use uefi then you can just create >>> one efi partition (should be around 200-500mb (depends if you're >>> planning on using multiple systems on the same disk) - this will hold >>> .efi files for all your systems as well as the bootloader. >>> >>> I you're using GTP but want to stick to MBR, then you create 1MB >>> partition to hold the boot loader, then /boot and the rest. >>> >>> About the 100MB EFI-partition: it's a Microsoft recommendation: >>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition, read the >>> "create the partition" section. >> >> Please bottom-post. >> >> The OP wants a partition scheme for both "standard" and efi firmware, >> so he wants an EF02 (gdisk name) of 1MB and an EF00 (also gdisk name). >> >> The OP wanted the EF02 to be mounted as "/boot" so it has to be larger >> than 100MB in order to accomodate multiple kernels (and possibly >> initramfs "thingies" as they're sometimes called here). > > Then the OP is lucky as the handbook describes this exact scheme the OP > wants. Only one adjusment should be considered - I would recommend around > 500 MB for /boot if the OP wants to use multiple systems and if > disk space is of no special concern. I haven't looked at the handbook for a long time but I hope that it doesn't recommend creating both of these partitions by default. It doesn't make sense for a default setup.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Neil Bothwickwrote: > On 26 July 2016 10:29:08 CEST, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zych wrote: >>> >>> If you're using GPT disk and want to use uefi then you can just create >>> one efi partition (should be around 200-500mb (depends if you're >>> planning on using multiple systems on the same disk) - this will hold >>> .efi files for all your systems as well as the bootloader. >>> >>> I you're using GTP but want to stick to MBR, then you create 1MB >>> partition to hold the boot loader, then /boot and the rest. >>> >>> About the 100MB EFI-partition: it's a Microsoft recommendation: >>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition, read the >>> "create the partition" section. >> >> Please bottom-post. >> >> The OP wants a partition scheme for both "standard" and efi firmware, >> so he wants an EF02 (gdisk name) of 1MB and an EF00 (also gdisk name). >> >> The OP wanted the EF02 to be mounted as "/boot" so it has to be >> larger than 100MB in order to accomodate multiple kernels (and >> possibly initramfs "thingies" as they're sometimes called here). > > It's the ESP (EF00) that can be used as /boot, EF02 is a special > partition that should exist but not be used. Good catch. I no longer have my initial email but it looks like I also screwed up my first para and emailed it unfinished; somehow.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format
On 26 July 2016 10:29:08 CEST, Tom Hwrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zych > wrote: > > > > If you're using GPT disk and want to use uefi then you can just > create > > one efi partition (should be around 200-500mb (depends if you're > > planning on using multiple systems on the same disk) - this will > hold > > .efi files for all your systems as well as the bootloader. > > > > I you're using GTP but want to stick to MBR, then you create 1MB > > partition to hold the boot loader, then /boot and the rest. > > > > About the 100MB EFI-partition: it's a Microsoft recommendation: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition, read the > > "create the partition" section. > > Please bottom-post. > > The OP wants a partition scheme for both "standard" and efi firmware, > so he wants an EF02 (gdisk name) of 1MB and an EF00 (also gdisk name). > > The OP wanted the EF02 to be mounted as "/boot" so it has to be larger > than 100MB in order to accomodate multiple kernels (and possibly > initramfs "thingies" as they're sometimes called here). It's the ESP (EF00) that can be used as /boot, EF02 is a special partition that should exist but not be used. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format
26 lip 2016 10:29 "Tom H"napisał(a): > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zych wrote: > > > > If you're using GPT disk and want to use uefi then you can just create > > one efi partition (should be around 200-500mb (depends if you're > > planning on using multiple systems on the same disk) - this will hold > > .efi files for all your systems as well as the bootloader. > > > > I you're using GTP but want to stick to MBR, then you create 1MB > > partition to hold the boot loader, then /boot and the rest. > > > > About the 100MB EFI-partition: it's a Microsoft recommendation: > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition, read the > > "create the partition" section. > > Please bottom-post. > > The OP wants a partition scheme for both "standard" and efi firmware, > so he wants an EF02 (gdisk name) of 1MB and an EF00 (also gdisk name). > > The OP wanted the EF02 to be mounted as "/boot" so it has to be larger > than 100MB in order to accomodate multiple kernels (and possibly > initramfs "thingies" as they're sometimes called here). > Then the OP is lucky as the handbook describes this exact scheme the OP wants. Only one adjusment should be considered - I would recommend around 500 MB for /boot if the OP wants to use multiple systems and if disk space is of no special concern.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 2:56 AM, Artur Zychwrote: > > If you're using GPT disk and want to use uefi then you can just create > one efi partition (should be around 200-500mb (depends if you're > planning on using multiple systems on the same disk) - this will hold > .efi files for all your systems as well as the bootloader. > > I you're using GTP but want to stick to MBR, then you create 1MB > partition to hold the boot loader, then /boot and the rest. > > About the 100MB EFI-partition: it's a Microsoft recommendation: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition, read the > "create the partition" section. Please bottom-post. The OP wants a partition scheme for both "standard" and efi firmware, so he wants an EF02 (gdisk name) of 1MB and an EF00 (also gdisk name). The OP wanted the EF02 to be mounted as "/boot" so it has to be larger than 100MB in order to accomodate multiple kernels (and possibly initramfs "thingies" as they're sometimes called here).
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR & GPT dual compliant format
Hi, If you're using GPT disk and want to use uefi then you can just create one efi partition (should be around 200-500mb (depends if you're planning on using multiple systems on the same disk) - this will hold .efi files for all your systems as well as the bootloader. I you're using GTP but want to stick to MBR, then you create 1MB partition to hold the boot loader, then /boot and the rest. About the 100MB EFI-partition: it's a Microsoft recommendation: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/EFI_System_Partition, read the "create the partition" section. Regards, -az 2016-07-26 7:55 GMT+02:00 Neil Bothwick: > On 25 July 2016 13:36:24 GMT-04:00, David Haller > wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> On Sun, 24 Jul 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>> Step 1: Use gdisk to create a 1M partition at the start of the disk. >>> Step 2: Set its type to EF02 >>> >> >> I think the EFI-partition should be 100MiB. >> >> -dnh >> >> > The ESP (EF00) can be whatever size you need, mine is 1GB. Bit the > compatibility EF02 partition needs be inly 1MB. > -- > Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >