Re: [gentoo-user] insane backends

2017-11-05 Thread Philip Webb
Further to the thread re mysterious behaviour of 'sane-backends', I remembered what happened when I set my new scanner up earlier in 2017. There is no driver in 'sane-backends', because it contains a binary blob. You have to download an appropriate pkg for the V550 from Epson, which provides

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-11-05 14:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> Second, my actual objection is more to sticking wrappers around an >> upstream program just to extend its capabilities, when other software >> is maintained upstream that

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-05 21:40, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Agreed again. My desktop cronjobs are all empty and when I had some > they were of the "do this once a week or once a day" variety. I didn't > care when they ran, just that they did every so often What about the synchronization and predictability

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-05 14:22, Rich Freeman wrote: > Second, my actual objection is more to sticking wrappers around an > upstream program just to extend its capabilities, when other software > is maintained upstream that already does what you're re-inventing. > When you already have 47 different cron

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/11/2017 17:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >> There are other schedulers out there that succeed where cron fails (eg >> Control-M, chronos, quartz), but those are all large, bulky, designed >> for big complex

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2017-11-05 07:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> But, I agree that it makes far more sense to just have desktop users >> use an appropriate cron implementation designed to handle the machine >> being off most of the time

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Kai Peter
On 2017-11-05 18:12, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:56:56 +0100, Kai Peter wrote: OT: Seems that since the last update of my MUA the formatting of my mails is broken - at least at reply's. There are extra line breaks. G - if you not do everything by

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:56:56 +0100, Kai Peter wrote: > OT: Seems that since the last update of my MUA the formatting of my > > mails is broken - at least at reply's. There are extra line breaks. > > G - if you not do everything by yourself ... ;-) ... at least you have someone else to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Kai Peter
There are other schedulers out there that succeed where cron fails (eg Control-M, chronos, quartz), but those are all large, bulky, designed for big complex installs/requirements and probably not suited for simple things you'd deploy out of a base in portage Long time

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-11-05 07:11, Rich Freeman wrote: > But, I agree that it makes far more sense to just have desktop users > use an appropriate cron implementation designed to handle the machine > being off most of the time vs trying to use shell scripting to make > vixie cron into such an implementation. >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 16:46:07 +0200 > Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly > incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready for launch. What, like KDE-4, KDE-plasma, ... ? -- Regards, Peter.

[gentoo-user] How to crack open an *.AppImage Was: [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread tuxic
On 11/05 04:04, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 11/05 04:46, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 05/11/2017 15:48, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > > On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote: > > >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, wrote: > > >>> On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 05/11/2017 15:48, tu...@posteo.de wrote: >> >> unpacking is not implemented yet. > > > Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly > incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:43 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > There are other schedulers out there that succeed where cron fails (eg > Control-M, chronos, quartz), but those are all large, bulky, designed > for big complex installs/requirements and probably not suited for

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread tuxic
On 11/05 04:46, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 05/11/2017 15:48, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > > On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, wrote: > >>> On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, wrote: > > > > I got

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/11/2017 15:48, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, wrote: >>> On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, wrote: > > I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 05/11/2017 16:28, Kai Peter wrote: > > > On 2017-11-04 18:42, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> On 2017-11-04 01:39, Kai Peter wrote: > >> > >>> > If you want to run a monthly job on a host that is not always on, do > >>> > you have to pretend it's an hourly job and check in the script > >>> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI: Daily / weekly / monthly cron jobs run twice on DST - non-DST transition

2017-11-05 Thread Kai Peter
On 2017-11-04 18:42, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2017-11-04 01:39, Kai Peter wrote: > If you want to run a monthly job on a host that is not always on, do > you have to pretend it's an hourly job and check in the script > itself? This is a special case to me. IMHO special

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread tuxic
On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, wrote: > > On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote: > >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, wrote: > >>> > >>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which > >>> has the extension "*.AppImage". > >>> > >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd

2017-11-05 Thread Mick
On Saturday, 4 November 2017 19:23:40 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > On 04/11/17 18:15, siefke_lis...@web.de wrote: > >> I have a short question to systemd. I would like to ask your experience > >> in the changeover. Was it

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, wrote: > On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, wrote: >>> >>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which >>> has the extension "*.AppImage". >>> >>> What is that? >>> >>> Is it possible to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread tuxic
On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote: > On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, wrote: > > > > I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which > > has the extension "*.AppImage". > > > > What is that? > > > > Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common? > > How to handle

[gentoo-user] CURA font renderer

2017-11-05 Thread tuxic
Hi, Since cura/curaengine (portage) does not compile on my system and is relatively old I downloaded cura for Linux from www.ultimaker.com. This runs on my system without the installation of addtional applications/libraries. Unfortunately the font rendering screwed up and makes menu entries,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, wrote: > > I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which > has the extension "*.AppImage". > > What is that? > > Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common? > How to handle that? Does it use this spec?

[gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

2017-11-05 Thread tuxic
Hi, I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which has the extension "*.AppImage". What is that? Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common? How to handle that? Thanks a lot for any help in advance! Cheers Meino