Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:30:32 -0400, > Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> On 4/22/20 1:19 PM, John Covici wrote: >>> That makes no sense to me -- portage itself says those files are owned >>> by 14.7.1965(14) so if its telling me that why does it not just >>> replace those files? >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

Jorge, Sorry for top posting. I'm at a site with limited capabilities at the moment. Please forgive. I'm slightly confused by the question but before I get into that please provide the output of cat /proc/asound/cards cat /proc/asound/modules What desktop environment are you using? What

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 13:30:32 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 4/22/20 1:19 PM, John Covici wrote: > > > > That makes no sense to me -- portage itself says those files are owned > > by 14.7.1965(14) so if its telling me that why does it not just > > replace those files? > > > > Aha, you're

[gentoo-user] ALSA wizard...

... desperately needed. The setup: -- a microphone connected to an audio interface, which connects to an USB port in the computer. The interface works like a USB sound card, at least regarding sound capture. It works: I can record my voice with arecord into a wav file, and then play the file with

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.2.3-r21 1 >> >app-crypt/tpm2-tss 2.3.3 1 1 >> >> This is strange: Both versions are only ~amd64, and in your previous >> posting the output for {isstable} was indeed 0. > > No. It was only 0 in the output of the

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On 4/22/20 3:22 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > But I don't generally want my entire system statically linked, only a > few things. > FWIW, I do know there are situations where static linking is the right thing to do.

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 2:19 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 3:15 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > > > Why would I need to emerge world? Portage knows the full list of > > packages that depend on openssl, transitively. > > > > Unless you're generalizing to say that (almost) everything

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On 4/22/20 3:15 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > Why would I need to emerge world? Portage knows the full list of > packages that depend on openssl, transitively. > > Unless you're generalizing to say that (almost) everything depends on > openssl, I suppose. > > Also, didn't the handbook, at one

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:33 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 2:24 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:19 PM Michael Orlitzky > > wrote: > > > > How do you plan to update all of your programs when there's a > security > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 10:15:31AM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Maybe wrt visual handicaps you are right, but wrt keyboard access to > everything that "normal" users do with the mouse, I violently disagree. Ian, I'm sorry I have invoked feelings of such violence. I did mean for visual

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 02:38:40PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > Rust packages get no security updates. Neither do Go packages. That's > what I'm screaming about in those threads on gentoo-dev that you singled > out in your original post =) Oh... I was under the impression that $EGO_SUMS

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On 4/22/20 2:24 PM, Consus wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 02:19:19PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> How do you plan to update all of your programs when there's a security >> vulnerability in, say, OpenSSL? > > emerge -1 @world of course :D > > By the way, Rust does support dynamic linking

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On 4/22/20 2:24 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:19 PM Michael Orlitzky > wrote: > > How do you plan to update all of your programs when there's a security > vulnerability in, say, OpenSSL? > > > Is there some reason why all packages

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 02:19:19PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > How do you plan to update all of your programs when there's a security > vulnerability in, say, OpenSSL? emerge -1 @world of course :D By the way, Rust does support dynamic linking (to a degree), but does not have (yet, I pray)

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 1:19 PM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > How do you plan to update all of your programs when there's a security > vulnerability in, say, OpenSSL? > Is there some reason why all packages that depend on OpenSSL, transitively, could not be recompiled?

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On 4/22/20 2:08 PM, lego12...@yandex.ru wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 07:48:01PM +0200, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: >> Whatever, but QA is by my side and I'm helping removing static libraries >> from gentoo packages. > > Man, this is not a technical argument. Sorry :-). You are wrong from a >

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 07:48:01PM +0200, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > Whatever, but QA is by my side and I'm helping removing static libraries > from gentoo packages. Man, this is not a technical argument. Sorry :-). You are wrong from a technical point of view. And the fact above says just: -

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 1:29 PM, Dale wrote: >> Some may recall my thread about emerge only using one core when doing >> it's build list.  As was discussed in that thread, it would be really >> difficult to build that list in pretty much any language because it just >> isn't set up to

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Whatever, but QA is by my side and I'm helping removing static libraries from gentoo packages. https://projects.gentoo.org/qa/policy-guide/installed-files.html?highlight=static#pg0302 Also more context here: https://flameeyes.blog/2011/08/29/useless-flag-static-libs/

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On 4/22/20 1:29 PM, Dale wrote: > > Some may recall my thread about emerge only using one core when doing > it's build list.  As was discussed in that thread, it would be really > difficult to build that list in pretty much any language because it just > isn't set up to do that, the tree itself

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On 4/22/20 1:19 PM, John Covici wrote: > > That makes no sense to me -- portage itself says those files are owned > by 14.7.1965(14) so if its telling me that why does it not just > replace those files? > Aha, you're not doing anything wrong. The old 14.7.x version was slotted:

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 11:22 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: >> On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:01 PM, Consus wrote: >> >>> Yeah, mgorny likes to do some provocative stuff like forking Portage. >> patching P*E is heretic, and forking it is >> outright blasphemous. >> > For

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:03:39 -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 4/22/20 11:58 AM, John Covici wrote: > > > > Yes, portage agrees with that statement, maybe I didn't give you the > > whole log, I thought it said that in there -- I did see that, I am > > sure. My question is how does this work

Re: [gentoo-user] new hd: Security / hdparm / differences

On Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:34:10 BST tu...@posteo.de wrote: > Hi, > > In my system there is a 3T Winchester digital blue > > Model Number: WDC WD30EZRZ-00GXCB0 > Firmware Revision: 80.00A80 > > > I bougth a second one for backyp purposes > > Model Number: WDC

[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

On 2020-04-22 13:28, Ashley Dixon wrote: > This is the ONE situation under which I would recommend GNOME, as it > is generally the best with built-in accessibility features [3]. I don't know about that. Mouse Keys was broken for at least 2 Fedora releases (it would do the moves but not the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 11:58 AM, John Covici wrote: >> Yes, portage agrees with that statement, maybe I didn't give you the >> whole log, I thought it said that in there -- I did see that, I am >> sure. My question is how does this work normally, when you merge a >> package and

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:47 AM wrote: > C is more widespread, than C++. > Yes, this is true. > C++ is unneededly complex and for such core thing like a portage > C would be better. C code is simpler and robust. More people know it. > More people can send patches. Etc. > I disagree to the

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:32:49AM -0500, Michael Jones wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > No-no. C++ is a nightmare. A few people want to use it. > > C++ is an extremely widespread language with millions of lines of code > written daily world wide. C is more widespread,

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:30 AM wrote: > > No-no. C++ is a nightmare. A few people want to use it. > C++ is an extremely widespread language with millions of lines of code written daily world wide. Lots of people want to use it. Just not people who want to write a PMS compliant package

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:28 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > I won't say this is impossible, but in general it hasn't been true for a > long time in Gentoo. Old libraries are left behind until you rebuild the > things that link against them (that's what emerge @preserved-rebuild > does). When used

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:16:20PM -0400, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 12:14 PM, lego12...@yandex.ru wrote: > > Yes. And yes again :-). +1 > > portage must be in C and statically linked. > > python is a strange dependency. > > Paludis was a C++ package manager, but is dead now. No

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On 4/22/20 12:24 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > On a source-based distribution, the thing that manages package > installations can break itself if it incorrectly installs a library that > a subsequent run of itself would dynamically link against. > I won't say this is impossible, but in general

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On 4/21/20 12:58 PM, Consus wrote: Hi, In all honesty, is Gentoo dead? Gentoo-Dev is filled with passive aggression (though being developers-only mailing list), Github bot warns you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority and probably no one will help you, and even

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:18 PM Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > > Nothing should be statically linked, please stop spreading the disease. > Gee, maybe the musl project should commit suicide? If at least they had read the vulgata consciously before starting the project... > Il Mer 22 Apr 2020,

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 06:17:52PM +0200, Alessandro Barbieri wrote: > Nothing should be statically linked, please stop spreading the disease. You are wrong ;-). -- Олег Неманов (Oleg Nemanov)

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:18 AM Alessandro Barbieri < lssndrbarbi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nothing should be statically linked, please stop spreading the disease. > On a source-based distribution, the thing that manages package installations can break itself if it incorrectly installs a library

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 7:35 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 11:22 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:01 PM, Consus con...@ftml.net wrote: > > > > > Yeah, mgorny likes to do some provocative stuff like forking Portage. > > > > patching P*E is

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Nothing should be statically linked, please stop spreading the disease. Il Mer 22 Apr 2020, 18:14 ha scritto: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 04:07:52PM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > in fact, i think portage sucks so much it must be > > rewritten from scratch, in such a way that it has > >

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On 4/22/20 12:14 PM, lego12...@yandex.ru wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 04:07:52PM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: >> in fact, i think portage sucks so much it must be >> rewritten from scratch, in such a way that it has >> least run-time dependencies, so we stop worrying >> about upgrading

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

On 4/22/20 6:41 AM, Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: Martin, On Tuesday, 2020-04-21 18:02:37 -, you wrote: ... DEFAULT_ARCH is normally not used, because it should be set in the profile. Does eix --print ARCH also show amd64? BINGO! No, it doesn't: $ eix --print ARCH x86_64 $

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On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 04:07:52PM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > in fact, i think portage sucks so much it must be > rewritten from scratch, in such a way that it has > least run-time dependencies, so we stop worrying > about upgrading other packages, such as python. Yes. And yes again

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On 4/22/20 12:07 PM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > i was joking. i agree with you + mgorny. I got that =) > in fact, i think portage sucks so much it must be > rewritten from scratch, in such a way that it has > least run-time dependencies, so we stop worrying > about upgrading other

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: best rss reader?

On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 3:44 AM, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Really? Masked as in package.mask? When? I don't see that. > I use it too, and it is better than the alternatives IMO. i'm on ~amd, is this related to why you don't see it? from `/var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/package.mask`: ``` #

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On 4/22/20 11:58 AM, John Covici wrote: > > Yes, portage agrees with that statement, maybe I didn't give you the > whole log, I thought it said that in there -- I did see that, I am > sure. My question is how does this work normally, when you merge a > package and update is this not always the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:26:20 -0400, Jack wrote: > > > On 4/22/20 11:20 AM, John Covici wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:04:24 -0400, > > Dale wrote: > >> [1 ] > >> John Covici wrote: > >>> On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:53:24 -0400, > >>> Dale wrote: > >>> > I did a search on the forums for

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 11:30:01AM -0400, John Covici wrote: > Gnome requires you to use systemd, so be warned. Small addendum: GNOME, from version 3.3, can, technically, be used without systemd. See [1] and [2]. [1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GNOME/GNOME_Without_systemd/Gentoo [2]

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:01 PM, Consus wrote: > Yeah, mgorny likes to do some provocative stuff like forking Portage. patching P*E is heretic, and forking it is outright blasphemous.

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On 4/22/20 11:22 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > On Tuesday, April 21, 2020 11:01 PM, Consus wrote: > >> Yeah, mgorny likes to do some provocative stuff like forking Portage. > > patching P*E is heretic, and forking it is > outright blasphemous. > For everyone complaining about how long

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:32:12 -0400, Mark Knecht wrote: > > [1 ] > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:16 AM Majid Hussain > wrote: > > > > hey there mark, > > you are ausom! > > it has cleared things up alot! > > on the chroot what doo I need? > > thanks, > > Majid Hussain > > > > On 22/04/2020, Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On 4/22/20 11:20 AM, John Covici wrote: On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:04:24 -0400, Dale wrote: [1 ] John Covici wrote: On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:53:24 -0400, Dale wrote: I did a search on the forums for teamview but didn't find that problem. Did you perhaps install it without using portage at some

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 11:04:24 -0400, Dale wrote: > > [1 ] > John Covici wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:53:24 -0400, > > Dale wrote: > > > >> I did a search on the forums for teamview but didn't find that problem.  > >> Did you perhaps install it without using portage at some point?  If not, >

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:53:24 -0400, > Dale wrote: > >> I did a search on the forums for teamview but didn't find that problem.  >> Did you perhaps install it without using portage at some point?  If not, >> can you try to emerge it and post the failure here, a new thread might

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 04:46 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:36:21 BST Michael Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph wrote: > > > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or > physical > > > hardware with different

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 7:16 AM Majid Hussain wrote: > > hey there mark, > you are ausom! > it has cleared things up alot! > on the chroot what doo I need? > thanks, > Majid Hussain > > On 22/04/2020, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:45 AM Majid Hussain > > wrote: > >> > >> hi

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 19:58:03 +0300 Consus wrote: > Github bot warns > you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority and > probably no one will help you, Maybe that's a misinterpretation. Gentoo workflow isn't oriented around Pull requests, Pull requests are generally a

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

hey there mark, you are ausom! it has cleared things up alot! on the chroot what doo I need? thanks, Majid Hussain On 22/04/2020, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:45 AM Majid Hussain > wrote: >> >> hi there, >> now er days, the mate desktop is considderd very accessible, >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:53:24 -0400, Dale wrote: > > [1 ] > John Covici wrote: > > On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:15:18 -0400, > > Dale wrote: > >> [1 ] > >> John Covici wrote: > >>> I am seeing a lot more unmaintained packages -- at least in the ones I > >>> have -- than there used to be and bugs going

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 5:45 AM Majid Hussain wrote: > > hi there, > now er days, the mate desktop is considderd very accessible, > compared to gnome, > orca is the screen reader used when a gui is launched, > espeakup is the screen reader that is used on the tty before xorg and > friends are

[gentoo-user] layout.conf files in DISTDIR

Do you know why fetchcommandwrapper+aria2c can't download the layout.conf files in DISTDIR? Also why non distfiles files are allowed to be downloaded in DISTDIR (I'm looking at you repoman [1])? [1] https://github.com/vaeth/trickyfetch/issues/2

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

John Covici wrote: > On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:15:18 -0400, > Dale wrote: >> [1 ] >> John Covici wrote: >>> I am seeing a lot more unmaintained packages -- at least in the ones I >>> have -- than there used to be and bugs going unanswered probably >>> because of that. Not sure what to do about it,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: best rss reader?

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:25:45PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-04-20 05:09, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > > [1] https://github.com/kouya/snownews > > Snownews seems to lack SSL support completely, or am I wrong? The great > majority of feeds I read are https:// URLs. No, you're right, it

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

hey, sorry for being spammy, what desktop enviroment is used on the live dvd iso? gnome? mate? does that have orca on it? note, speech-dispatcher and espeak-ng are required for things to function, with pulse audio, Majid On 22/04/2020, Majid Hussain wrote: > hi there, > now er days, the mate

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

hi there, now er days, the mate desktop is considderd very accessible, compared to gnome, orca is the screen reader used when a gui is launched, espeakup is the screen reader that is used on the tty before xorg and friends are launched, it's what debian uses on the net install image, hence me

[gentoo-user] new hd: Security / hdparm / differences

Hi, In my system there is a 3T Winchester digital blue Model Number: WDC WD30EZRZ-00GXCB0 Firmware Revision: 80.00A80 I bougth a second one for backyp purposes Model Number: WDC WD30EZRZ-00Z5HB0 Firmware Revision: 80.00A80 Looks pretty simiiar to

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

> i'm blind and wanted to get started with gentoo. > what's accessibility like? > is there speech via orca the screen reader or sound on the minimal iso > via espeakup provided? > I red this document, > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Accessibility > which seembs to be up-to-date, is there a

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

There is the ongoing drama about go in the Gentoo-dev ML for example. Il Mar 21 Apr 2020, 19:12 Ashley Dixon ha scritto: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 07:58:03PM +0300, Consus wrote: > > In all honesty, is Gentoo dead? Gentoo-Dev is filled with passive > > aggression (though being developers-only

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:15:18 -0400, Dale wrote: > > [1 ] > John Covici wrote: > > > > I am seeing a lot more unmaintained packages -- at least in the ones I > > have -- than there used to be and bugs going unanswered probably > > because of that. Not sure what to do about it, I don't have time

[gentoo-user] gentoo accessibility re i'm blind,

hi there, i'm blind and wanted to get started with gentoo. what's accessibility like? is there speech via orca the screen reader or sound on the minimal iso via espeakup provided? I red this document, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Accessibility which seembs to be up-to-date, is there a

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:17:23 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > >"BOINC is an open-source software platform for computing using > >volunteered > >resources." > > Considering the current situation, I switched my systems to > foldingathome. Aren't BOINC doing COViD-19 work too? -- Neil Bothwick

[gentoo-user] Re: Problem understanding "eix"

Martin, On Tuesday, 2020-04-21 18:02:37 -, you wrote: > ... > DEFAULT_ARCH is normally not used, because it should be set in > the profile. Does > eix --print ARCH > also show amd64? BINGO! No, it doesn't: $ eix --print ARCH x86_64 $ And that rings a bell: for historical

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

On 22 April 2020 11:46:33 CEST, Peter Humphrey wrote: >On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:36:21 BST Michael Jones wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph >wrote: >> > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or >physical >> > hardware with different

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Tinderboxes?

On Tuesday, 21 April 2020 23:36:21 BST Michael Jones wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 5:02 PM Gregory Rudolph wrote: > > I would also offer up some computing power for that, on VMs, or physical > > hardware with different configurations. I'd like to be more involved with > > the Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 19:58 +0300, Consus wrote: > Hi, > > In all honesty, is Gentoo dead? Gentoo-Dev is filled with passive > aggression (though being developers-only mailing list), Github bot > warns > you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority > and > probably no one

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

John Covici wrote: > > I am seeing a lot more unmaintained packages -- at least in the ones I > have -- than there used to be and bugs going unanswered probably > because of that. Not sure what to do about it, I don't have time to > get into doing this much, just keeping up with world updates is

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 08:10:33PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > No it's not. It may be time consuming, especially the first time, but > it is not difficult because the handbook explains it well. It's pretty > much a once only job too as once you have a working config you can use > it as the base

Re: [gentoo-user] PORTAGE_BUILDDIR does not exist

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 21:58:09 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote: > I've been getting this build message for every package that I attempt > to emerge. I'm starting to become concerned that my Portage > installation is corrupt, although I want to make sure before I > try and embark on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

200421 Dale wrote ... : > Rich Freeman wrote ... : >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:49 PM Dale wrote: > ... I'm not sure why people keep thinking Gentoo is dying. > Sometimes I think it is more about the difference > between binary distros they are coming from > and Gentoo being source-based than

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 22:55:54 -0400, Dale wrote: > > [1 ] > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 9:49 PM Dale wrote: > >> Then they created moderators with people to enforce some rules. It got > >> better. Actually, a lot better. > > That is actually really good to hear. The whole