Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Gerrit Kuehn
On Wed, 6 May 2020 22:39:39 -0500 Dale wrote: > If you enjoy using Gentoo, or if you don't, if you skip this thread, > you won't be missing a whole lot.  I don't recall any breaking news > or life saving tips in it.  ROFL What a nice comment to read when starting my day. Thanks! ;-) cu

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 8:28 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 4/22/20 12:24 PM, Michael Jones wrote: > > > On a source-based distribution, the thing that manages package > > installations can break itself if it incorrectly installs a library that > > a subsequent run of itself would

RE: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Pengcheng Xu
That seems reasonable, people always tend to bring in new ideas when trying to prove what they're saying. I'm just amazed by the activeness of the community :) It's great to know that I'm not missing something useful if not going through the discussion, so thanks! Regards, -- Pengcheng Xu

Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Dale
Pengcheng Xu wrote: > Sorry for possible necroposting, but I'm pretty interested what's happening > in this thread, as there seems to be detailed discussion on topics under this > "Is Gentoo dead?" clickbait subject. The whole conversation list does not > even fit in a single screen... Would

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:14 PM Caveman Al Toraboran > wrote: >> are you referring to python's dependence on expat >> and glibc? >> > More like bash's dependence. Well, and in the case of glibc just > about everything. When those break you're basically stuck recovering >

[gentoo-user] Sensor readout (new PC)

2020-05-06 Thread tuxic
HI, Still updateing/configuring/correcting/completing my new PC... This time it is the sensors readout via 'glances' My setup: AMD Ryzen 5 2600. MSI Tomahawk Max, NVidia RTX 3600 SUPER Kernel 5.6.11 vanilla sys-apps/lm-sensors 3.6.0 Beforehand I did a sensors-detect and answered every item

RE: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Pengcheng Xu
Sorry for possible necroposting, but I'm pretty interested what's happening in this thread, as there seems to be detailed discussion on topics under this "Is Gentoo dead?" clickbait subject. The whole conversation list does not even fit in a single screen... Would someone kindly provide some

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:14 PM Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > are you referring to python's dependence on expat > and glibc? > More like bash's dependence. Well, and in the case of glibc just about everything. When those break you're basically stuck recovering from a rescue disk.

Re: [OBORONA-SPAM] Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?

2020-05-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:13 PM Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > just to say that some portagy thing (layman) can't > work now as emerge was rebuilding packages to > remove python3_6): > > running "layman -S"... > Traceback (most recent call last): > File

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread tuxic
Hi Walter, thanks for your input again. A said previously: This is not a problem of a high load, which needs to be handled. This is kinda temporary deadlock. Even if I would choose the best possible scheduler...the CPU would not get the chance to execute the code of the scheduler, because

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread Walter Dnes
You can make some tradeoffs with kernel options. Which one you choose is up to you (assuming it's your personal machine). In "make menuconfig" go to... General setup --> Preemption Model ---> You have 3 choices. The 1st choice will probably finish your rendering fastest, but other

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On your troubled machine set up a terminal and ping google.com repeatedly once a second. Watch to see if that actually stops when your machine is showing problems. You don't have to shell in from a separate machine. I just find it more repeatable and if the machine really hangs sometimes you can

RE: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread Pengcheng Xu
Well, I think you should be able to set up some real-time monitoring that keeps collecting system status in the background and make some plot to observe if something's going wrong during the Blender workload. An easy setup would be to fire up a Prometheus and Grafana docker app, and to run

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread tuxic
On 05/06 04:19, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > On 05/06 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:21 AM wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > while rendering with Blender the system performance (especially > > > graphic related stuff) lacks. That's not nice but it seems that this > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] [bug] uClibc-ng-1.0.33 won't fetch

2020-05-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 5/5/20 9:59 PM, akater wrote: > Michael Orlitzky writes: > >> www-client/pybugz > > I have that one installed, actually! But I'd rather use it through > Elisp interface... which I'm likely to write if nobody else does but > it's unlikely to happen in the upcoming months. And I'm concerned

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] ubuntu equivalent of world file

2020-05-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:39 AM marco restelli wrote: > 2020-05-06 11:29 GMT+02:00, marco restelli : > > Hi all, > >this is a bit off topic, but probably is not an unknown problem for > > many on the list. > > > > I am a long time gentoo user and I occasionally work on an Ubuntu > > system. I

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread tuxic
On 05/06 07:07, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:21 AM wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > while rendering with Blender the system performance (especially > > graphic related stuff) lacks. That's not nice but it seems that this > > is the way it is designed. > > > > What makes me a little

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread tuxic
On 05/06 02:47, Ashley Dixon wrote: > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 09:16:33AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > > It looks like blender is a heavy-duty program that bogs down your > > system. You could buy a new machine, or you could try the "nice" > > command. The tradeoff is that your system becomes

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:21 AM wrote: > > > Hi, > > while rendering with Blender the system performance (especially > graphic related stuff) lacks. That's not nice but it seems that this > is the way it is designed. > > What makes me a little nervous are freezes of several seconds. It not > onlu

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 09:16:33AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > It looks like blender is a heavy-duty program that bogs down your > system. You could buy a new machine, or you could try the "nice" > command. The tradeoff is that your system becomes more responsive > because the program is

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread tuxic
On 05/06 09:16, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 12:21:00PM +0200, tu...@posteo.de wrote > > > Does everyone has the same problems probably already solved > > or any idea how I can those freezes? > > It looks like blender is a heavy-duty program that bogs down your > system. You

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread Walter Dnes
On Wed, May 06, 2020 at 12:21:00PM +0200, tu...@posteo.de wrote > Does everyone has the same problems probably already solved > or any idea how I can those freezes? It looks like blender is a heavy-duty program that bogs down your system. You could buy a new machine, or you could try the

[gentoo-user] New PC hangs/lacks ?

2020-05-06 Thread tuxic
Hi, while rendering with Blender the system performance (especially graphic related stuff) lacks. That's not nice but it seems that this is the way it is designed. What makes me a little nervous are freezes of several seconds. It not onlu freezes but the whole graphical interface of everything

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] ubuntu equivalent of world file

2020-05-06 Thread marco restelli
2020-05-06 11:29 GMT+02:00, marco restelli : > Hi all, >this is a bit off topic, but probably is not an unknown problem for > many on the list. > > I am a long time gentoo user and I occasionally work on an Ubuntu > system. I wonder > whether there is an Ubuntu equivalent of the portage world

[gentoo-user] [OT] ubuntu equivalent of world file

2020-05-06 Thread marco restelli
Hi all, this is a bit off topic, but probably is not an unknown problem for many on the list. I am a long time gentoo user and I occasionally work on an Ubuntu system. I wonder whether there is an Ubuntu equivalent of the portage world file, to separate the packages installed because the user