[gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?

2020-08-27 Thread james
Gentoo, https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2020/08/25/is-an-umbrella-organization-a-good-choice-for-gentoo/ Surely some of the business/legal savvy folks want to "chime in" on Sir Gorny's proposal? I just read this on 'hacker news' It just sounds like mostly a lack of fund raising to

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Council vs Umbrella Corp ?

2020-08-27 Thread Dale
james wrote: > Gentoo, > > > > https://blogs.gentoo.org/mgorny/2020/08/25/is-an-umbrella-organization-a-good-choice-for-gentoo/ > > > > Surely some of the business/legal savvy folks want to "chime in" on > Sir Gorny's proposal? > > > I just read this on 'hacker news' > > It just sounds like mostly

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-27 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, August 27, 2020 8:15 PM, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 8/27/20 7:00 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > > > but i this way of looking at protocols (despite being common) is wrong. > > Why do you think that it is wrong? > > What is not factually correct

Re: [gentoo-user] new mail protocol rfc (was Re: tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?)

2020-08-27 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 06:02:43PM -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > On 8/27/20 11:55 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > Nevertheless, as xkcd so brilliantly explains, TeX inspires a level of blind > > trust in the content of a document [2]. As long as you avoid proposing > > standards in the form of an

Re: [gentoo-user] new mail protocol rfc (was Re: tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?)

2020-08-27 Thread Grant Taylor
On 8/27/20 11:55 AM, Ashley Dixon wrote: Well said; thanks for the correction. Of course. My intention is to positively contribute to and learn from the community. Mathematical notation can be seen as a tightly coupled analogue to this sort of typesetting: the same book that

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-27 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 09:07:03PM +, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: > anyway i'm out of this. massive waste of time. i > could've finished server-side hillarymail by it. Oh, come on. People on this list have decades of experience managing and implementing e-mail protocols, and you

Re: [gentoo-user] Determine cause of xorg-server downgrade?

2020-08-27 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 19:59:14 - (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: > How do you determine the cause of a downgrade? > > Today I did "emerge --sync" and "emerge -auvNDt world" with (I think) > no configuration changes since the last update a couple days ago, and > now emerge wants to downgrade

[gentoo-user] Re: Determine cause of xorg-server downgrade?

2020-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-08-27, Grant Edwards wrote: > How do you determine the cause of a downgrade? > > Today I did "emerge --sync" and "emerge -auvNDt world" with (I think) > no configuration changes since the last update a couple days ago, and > now emerge wants to downgrade xorg-server from 1.20.9 to

Re: [gentoo-user] Determine cause of xorg-server downgrade?

2020-08-27 Thread Jack
On 2020.08.27 15:59, Grant Edwards wrote: How do you determine the cause of a downgrade? Today I did "emerge --sync" and "emerge -auvNDt world" with (I think) no configuration changes since the last update a couple days ago, and now emerge wants to downgrade xorg-server from 1.20.9 to

[gentoo-user] Determine cause of xorg-server downgrade?

2020-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
How do you determine the cause of a downgrade? Today I did "emerge --sync" and "emerge -auvNDt world" with (I think) no configuration changes since the last update a couple days ago, and now emerge wants to downgrade xorg-server from 1.20.9 to 1.20.8-r1: Calculating dependencies... done!

Re: [gentoo-user] Configure sshd to listen on specific interfaces?

2020-08-27 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2020-08-27 09:40, Grant Edwards wrote: > I'm trying to figure out how to conifgure openssh sshd to listen on > specific interface(s). I know how to configure it to listen on a > specific IP address, but what do you do when using DHCP and don't know > what IP address is going to be assigned. >

Re: [gentoo-user] new mail protocol rfc (was Re: tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?)

2020-08-27 Thread Ashley Dixon
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 10:26:59PM -0600, Grant Taylor wrote: > I'm sure there are those that will disagree with me. But I don't think it's > as important how professional things look as long as they are sound ideas. > Lest it be an ad hominem attack. Which, as previously indicated is not a >

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-27 Thread Caveman Al Toraboran
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Thursday, August 27, 2020 12:21 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: > email emailemail > SMTP SMTP POP3S/IMAPS > A) [1]---(TCP)---[2]---(TCP)---[3]---(TCP)---[4] > > Now what you are proposing: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-27 Thread Grant Taylor
On 8/27/20 7:00 AM, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote: but i this way of looking at protocols (despite being common) is wrong. Why do you think that it is wrong? What is not factually correct about it? i also disagree with the network layering proposed by osi or the other ones commonly published

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-27 Thread Grant Taylor
On 8/27/20 6:07 AM, Victor Ivanov wrote: I have been quietly following this discussion and I've seen SRS being mentioned a number of times. Welcome to an active part in the conversation. :-) Now, I know what SRS _does_ (perhaps not fully?) to prevent unintended rejection by a receiving MTA

Re: [gentoo-user] Configure sshd to listen on specific interfaces?

2020-08-27 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 15:48 +0100, Victor Ivanov wrote: > On 27/08/2020 14:40, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I do _not_ want it to listen on 0.0.0.0. > > > > I want it to listen on 127.0.0.1 and on whatever IP addresses are > > assigned to two specified interfaces. > > As far as I'm aware, I don't

[gentoo-user] Re: Configure sshd to listen on specific interfaces?

2020-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2020-08-27, Victor Ivanov wrote: >> I want it to listen on 127.0.0.1 and on whatever IP addresses are >> assigned to two specified interfaces. > As far as I'm aware, I don't think OpenSSH allows for listening on a > specific interface. I'm pretty sure that's the case. > You can, however,

Re: [gentoo-user] Configure sshd to listen on specific interfaces?

2020-08-27 Thread Victor Ivanov
On 27/08/2020 14:40, Grant Edwards wrote: > I do _not_ want it to listen on 0.0.0.0. > > I want it to listen on 127.0.0.1 and on whatever IP addresses are > assigned to two specified interfaces. As far as I'm aware, I don't think OpenSSH allows for listening on a specific interface. You can,

[gentoo-user] Configure sshd to listen on specific interfaces?

2020-08-27 Thread Grant Edwards
I'm trying to figure out how to conifgure openssh sshd to listen on specific interface(s). I know how to configure it to listen on a specific IP address, but what do you do when using DHCP and don't know what IP address is going to be assigned. I do _not_ want it to listen on 0.0.0.0. I want it

Re: [gentoo-user] tips on running a mail server in a cheap vps provider run but not-so-trusty admins?

2020-08-27 Thread Victor Ivanov
On 27/08/2020 02:31, Grant Taylor wrote: >     - SRS (mail-filter/libsrs2) [] >    - emerge -a mail-filter/libsrs2 > I have been quietly following this discussion and I've seen SRS being mentioned a number of times. Now, I know what SRS _does_ (perhaps not fully?) to prevent unintended