[gentoo-user] syslog-ng misbehaving

2021-04-06 Thread Dan Egli
Before I seek out a mailing list for syslog-ng, I was hoping I could get some tips from people here. I recently started trying to separate logs into various functions rather than letting everything go to /var/log/messages. So I created three filters in syslog-ng. One is intended to separate

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread Dale
antlists wrote: > On 06/04/2021 18:30, Dale wrote: >> Wols Lists wrote: >>> On 06/04/21 05:19, Dale wrote: Another question, can I just copy my current emails over and "import" them?  I think Seamonkey uses mbox type setup.  I know I could with Thunderbird but it was a bit fussy. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron and disabling emails for one script only

2021-04-06 Thread Dale
John Covici wrote: > On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 13:43:31 -0400, > Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> I set up a hard drive to backup my emails, world file, /etc and a couple >> other things.  I been doing it manually but finally set up a cron job to >> run it automatically.  I call it a script but some may

[gentoo-user] CTRL-C and pre-merge checks

2021-04-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, I've just started an emerge -e world to run overnight, and I realised I'd forgotten to mount /boot (for intel-microcode), so I hit CTRL-C to abort. It took several dozen attempts, because pre-merge checks were in progress. It seems that this operation doesn't pass the interrupt up

Re: [gentoo-user] IPsec

2021-04-06 Thread Grant Taylor
Pre-Script: I'm probably in a bad mental state to reply, but I want to answer some valid questions before others reply. Please take what I say and how I say it with a grain of salt. I don't mean anything personally. I /do/ appreciate the constructive and thought provoking responses that

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron and disabling emails for one script only

2021-04-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 14:42:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > > cron only sends an email if the job produces any output. If the script > > follows the *nix principle of succeed quietly, fail noisily, you > > should only get emails when things go wrong. However without seeing > > your mail-backup script, it is

[gentoo-user] Re: Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2021-04-06, antlists wrote: > On 06/04/2021 19:30, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: >> On Tue, 2021-04-06 at 19:19 +0100, antlists wrote: >>> Imap is quite happy with folders. Google let you create folders, IMAP >>> lets you access them. No problem. >> Disclaimer: I haven't used Gmail in a few

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread antlists
On 06/04/2021 19:30, Matt Connell (Gmail) wrote: On Tue, 2021-04-06 at 19:19 +0100, antlists wrote: Imap is quite happy with folders. Google let you create folders, IMAP lets you access them. No problem. Disclaimer: I haven't used Gmail in a few years. Interjection: Gmail does*not* support

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron and disabling emails for one script only

2021-04-06 Thread John Covici
On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 13:43:31 -0400, Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > I set up a hard drive to backup my emails, world file, /etc and a couple > other things.  I been doing it manually but finally set up a cron job to > run it automatically.  I call it a script but some may laugh at me > calling it

Re: [gentoo-user] IPsec

2021-04-06 Thread antlists
On 06/04/2021 20:07, Sid Spry wrote: If you control everything you can use wireguard or OpenVPN. https://lwn.net/Articles/850098/ Salutory reading ... Cheers, Wol

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron and disabling emails for one script only

2021-04-06 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 12:43:31 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Keep in mind, I do not want to disable ALL emails, just this one >> script.  How does one disable emails for this one cron job?  Do I have a >> typo or putting it in wrong place maybe?  Everything I found shows this >>

Re: [gentoo-user] IPsec

2021-04-06 Thread Sid Spry
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Grant Taylor wrote: > But I've started to get some more experience using IPsec without IKE > recently. > Can you clarify why you need to use IPsec? If it is to support a commercial client you may be better off handing them a system based around BSD. More

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 12:30:36 -0500, Dale wrote: > One thing, among others, I like about Seamonkey, folders and automatic > sorting.  For example, your reply went to a folder where all Gentoo user > mailing list emails go.  It also shows them by thread.  I like the > thread option for mailing lists

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron and disabling emails for one script only

2021-04-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 12:43:31 -0500, Dale wrote: > Keep in mind, I do not want to disable ALL emails, just this one > script.  How does one disable emails for this one cron job?  Do I have a > typo or putting it in wrong place maybe?  Everything I found shows this > should work but obviously I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread Matt Connell (Gmail)
On Tue, 2021-04-06 at 19:19 +0100, antlists wrote: > Imap is quite happy with folders. Google let you create folders, IMAP > lets you access them. No problem. Disclaimer: I haven't used Gmail in a few years. Interjection: Gmail does *not* support folders. Gmail uses *labels*, which mail

Re: [gentoo-user] Cron and disabling emails for one script only

2021-04-06 Thread antlists
On 06/04/2021 18:43, Dale wrote: Keep in mind, I do not want to disable ALL emails, just this one script.  How does one disable emails for this one cron job?  Do I have a typo or putting it in wrong place maybe?  Everything I found shows this should work but obviously I'm doing something wrong. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread antlists
On 06/04/2021 18:30, Dale wrote: Wols Lists wrote: On 06/04/21 05:19, Dale wrote: Another question, can I just copy my current emails over and "import" them? I think Seamonkey uses mbox type setup. I know I could with Thunderbird but it was a bit fussy. It did work tho. It also made it

[gentoo-user] Cron and disabling emails for one script only

2021-04-06 Thread Dale
Howdy, I set up a hard drive to backup my emails, world file, /etc and a couple other things.  I been doing it manually but finally set up a cron job to run it automatically.  I call it a script but some may laugh at me calling it that.  Anyway, I got cron to run it just fine.  It runs and copies

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 06/04/21 05:19, Dale wrote: >> Another question, can I just copy my current emails over and "import" >> them? I think Seamonkey uses mbox type setup. I know I could with >> Thunderbird but it was a bit fussy. It did work tho. It also made it >> easier to switch back. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for other Seamonkey users

2021-04-06 Thread Wols Lists
On 06/04/21 05:19, Dale wrote: > Another question, can I just copy my current emails over and "import" > them? I think Seamonkey uses mbox type setup. I know I could with > Thunderbird but it was a bit fussy. It did work tho. It also made it > easier to switch back. Consider setting up a local

Re: [gentoo-user] IPsec

2021-04-06 Thread Grant Taylor
On 4/6/21 8:09 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: I only managed to get it working between off-the-shelve devices, but would prefer to do it from Linux. That's where some of my experience is; SOHO routers, 15+ years ago. I think I did manage to get FreeS/WAN (at the time) to establish a VPN with one

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Michael Jones
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 4:54 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Michael. > > On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 18:08:58 -0500, Michael Jones wrote: > > [ ] > > > Without looking at the patch itself: > > > Have you considered something like kmscon as a userland alternative? > > To be honest, no. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade from 5.4 to 5.10: oldconfig "Restart config..."

2021-04-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 13:59:11 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > fwiw, I think I've always just copied the old .config across, then > > > done "make menuconfig". I think that also just accepts defaults for > > > anything new. > > > > It doesn't, it prompts for every change, with the default > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, John On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 10:13:39 -0400, John Covici wrote: > On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 09:14:23 -0400, > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 5 April 2021 19:13:18 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > We'll see how people react to it here, first. > > You're my hero! > Would this patch work

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread John Covici
On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 09:14:23 -0400, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Monday, 5 April 2021 19:13:18 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > We'll see how people react to it here, first. > > You're my hero! Would this patch work on 5.4.96 and following? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to

Re: [gentoo-user] IPsec

2021-04-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, April 5, 2021 3:46:37 AM CEST Grant Taylor wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have any experience with IPsec? Preferably on Gentoo or > Linux in general? > > I'd like to discuss some things (probably off list) while wading into > the IPsec pool. E.g.: > > - ip xfrm ... > - strongSwan

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge failure for dev-lang/R-4.0.4

2021-04-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On Mon, 2021-04-05 at 18:29 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > So, how much memory does R need to build ? > I have: > > $ free >    totalusedfree shared buff/cache > available > Mem: 6103628 1807560 2631444 146376 1664624 >

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 5 April 2021 19:13:18 BST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > We'll see how people react to it here, first. You're my hero! -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel upgrade from 5.4 to 5.10: oldconfig "Restart config..."

2021-04-06 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 5 April 2021 19:43:29 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 19:04:18 +0100, antlists wrote: > > > For the uninitiated, the difference here is that olddefconfig will > > > accept the default configuration value for any new/changed options, > > > whereas oldconfig will prompt the

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Monday, April 5, 2021 7:12:07 PM CEST Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hello, Gentoo. > > Yes, console soft scrolling is back! That essential feature that was > stripped out of the kernel at around 5.4.x has returned! > > Only this time, it's even better! Instead of one scrollback buffer > shared

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Karl. On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 21:58:37 +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Alan Mackenzie: > > Yes, console soft scrolling is back! That essential feature that was > > stripped out of the kernel at around 5.4.x has returned! > It is commit 087b6cb17df5834d395ab72da3f937380470ba15, > between

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:56 AM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > > > > I just tested it with kernel 5.11.11. Seems fine. > > Thanks! > Thank _you_! It is regrettable that console scrolling is out of the kernel. Even if one doesn't use the console that much, it is used once in a while, and those

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Jorge. On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 19:38:57 +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 6:12 PM Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hello, Gentoo. > > Yes, console soft scrolling is back! That essential feature that was > > stripped out of the kernel at around 5.4.x has returned! > > Only

Re: [gentoo-user] Console scrollback is back again!

2021-04-06 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hello, Michael. On Mon, Apr 05, 2021 at 18:08:58 -0500, Michael Jones wrote: [ ] > Without looking at the patch itself: > Have you considered something like kmscon as a userland alternative? To be honest, no. I wasn't really aware of it when I starting working on the Linux console.