Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-31 Thread Michael
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:01:21 BST Laurence Perkins wrote: > >-Original Message- > >From: Neil Bothwick > >Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 5:43 AM > >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS > > > >On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:47:53 +0100,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread David Rosenbaum
David On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 4:22 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-07-31, Kusoneko wrote: > > > > Jul 31, 2023 13:52:25 Grant Edwards : > > > >> On 2023-07-31, Kusoneko wrote: > >>> > Don't get me wrong, I'm "team plaintext" all day every day but I'm not > going to make my life more

[gentoo-user] Re: Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-07-31, Kusoneko wrote: > > Jul 31, 2023 13:52:25 Grant Edwards : > >> On 2023-07-31, Kusoneko wrote: >>> Don't get me wrong, I'm "team plaintext" all day every day but I'm not going to make my life more difficult on principles.  There are hills worth dying on but this

RE: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Laurence Perkins
> Jul 31, 2023 13:23:21 Matt Connell : > > > On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: > >>> Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire > >>> web engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people > >>> who knows full well what the answer is. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 14:46 -0400, Kusoneko wrote: > Why would you want a mail client to also be a web browser when you already > have a web browser to do that job? I will never understand the mindset of > trying to include web browsers into everything. Web browsers are massive > pieces of

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Michael
On Monday, 31 July 2023 19:13:19 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be > > put, but I can't find it now. > > That's a setting in the mail client. Kmail Settings > Accounts >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 17:03:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > What should I do about backups of the server? Don't bother, hard disks are dead reliable these days ;-) -- Neil Bothwick .sig a .sog of sixpence. pgp0RnKsAawdG.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:26:03 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I thought I should be able to specify where outgoing mail should be > put, but I can't find it now. That's a setting in the mail client. -- Neil Bothwick IBM: Itty Bitty Mentality pgp1DMtkh7ZVh.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Michael
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download > > all > > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the > > IMAP Account,

[gentoo-user] Re: Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-07-31, Alexe Stefan wrote: >> >> Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire web >> engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who >> knows full well what the answer is. >> > > What is the answer? Most of us don't like reading HTML. > Mutt

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Jack
On 2023.07.31 13:23, Matt Connell wrote: On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: > > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire > > web > > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who > > knows full well what the answer is. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:25:20 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download > > all > > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the > > IMAP Account,

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 20:16 +0300, Alexe Stefan wrote: > > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire > > web > > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who > > knows full well what the answer is. > > What is the answer? > Mutt doesn't need a web

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Alexe Stefan
> > Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire web > engine for an email client" but I'm also in the group of people who > knows full well what the answer is. > What is the answer? Mutt doesn't need a web engine. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Matt Connell
On Mon, 2023-07-31 at 17:14 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > I see it's a gnome program and has 17 new dependencies (to this box). Unfortunately one of them is webkit-gtk, which, if you don't have it already, is a compilation lift. Normally I would be in the chorus of "why do I need a whole entire

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 17:03:49 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > I already have it set up, so I hope I'd only have to deselect "Download all > messages for offline use" and then drag the locally stored emails to the IMAP > Account, which is shown at the top of the folder list, attached. Does that >

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 02:12:00 BST Matt Connell wrote: > On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 01:29 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've been a loyal user of KMail for many years. (Loyal? Masochistic > > might be a better word.) It suits me exactly - or it would if it were > > reliable. It isn't, though,

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 14:26:16 BST Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does > > > > it make? > > > > It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with > > the

RE: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS

2023-07-31 Thread Laurence Perkins
>-Original Message- >From: Neil Bothwick >Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2023 5:43 AM >To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org >Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Simple installation on BTRFS > >On Sat, 29 Jul 2023 10:47:53 +0100, Michael wrote: >> I doubt I will need anything so frequent, these days my

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 15:19:22 BST Wols Lists wrote: > The big question that needs answering is "Are you storing your emails in > dovecot, or in kmail?" In KMail. My server has fetchmail -> postfix -> dovecot. Fetchmail collects POP3 emails from my ISP and forwards it to postfix, and dovecot

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/07/2023 13:33, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote: On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither program cares that I

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:33:18 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > But you're running the IMAP server locally, so what difference does > > > it make? > > It's just the way things have 'just growed'. I could start again with > the server keeping the mails itself, but it's a good deal of work. Not

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 31 July 2023 08:34:05 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. > >>> Neither program cares that I have also used the other to

Re: [gentoo-user] Email clients

2023-07-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/07/2023 00:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 30 Jul 2023 23:53:39 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: ... I use Claws 99% of the time, but occasionally run Thunderbird. Neither program cares that I have also used the other to read my mail. Ah, but you're using IMAP4 and leaving your emails on