Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 1:42 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 31/01/2024 17:56, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I don't think there are > > any RAID implementations that do full write journaling to protect > > against the write hole problem, but those would obviously underperform > > zfs as well. > > This

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Wols Lists
On 31/01/2024 17:56, Rich Freeman wrote: I don't think there are any RAID implementations that do full write journaling to protect against the write hole problem, but those would obviously underperform zfs as well. This feature has been added to mdraid, iirc. Cheers, Wol

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, Thelma wrote: > On 1/31/24 08:50, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: >> >>> Honestly, at this point I would not run any storage I cared about on >>> anything but zfs. There are just so many benefits. >> >> I'll definitely put zfs on my list of things to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: > > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux? > The main barrier is that its license isn't GPL-compatible. It is FOSS, but the license was basically designed to keep it from

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Thelma
On 1/31/24 08:50, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 6:45 AM John Covici wrote: I know you said you wanted to stay with ext4, but going to zfs reduced my backup time on my entire system from several hours to just a few minutes because taking a

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 6:45 AM John Covici wrote: >> >> I know you said you wanted to stay with ext4, but going to zfs reduced >> my backup time on my entire system from several hours to just a few >> minutes because taking a snapshot is so quick and copying

[gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-01-31, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: > On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 20:38 +, Grant Edwards wrote: >> >> It took me an embarassing number of tries to get the intervals and >> crontab entries to mesh so it worked the way I wanted. It's not >> really >> that difficult (and it's pretty well

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 6:45 AM John Covici wrote: > > I know you said you wanted to stay with ext4, but going to zfs reduced > my backup time on my entire system from several hours to just a few > minutes because taking a snapshot is so quick and copying to another > pool is also very quick. >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread John Covici
On Wed, 31 Jan 2024 03:14:19 -0500, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: > > On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 20:38 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > > It took me an embarassing number of tries to get the intervals and > > crontab entries to mesh so it worked the way I wanted. It's not > > really > > that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread gentoo-user
On Tue, 2024-01-30 at 20:38 +, Grant Edwards wrote: > > It took me an embarassing number of tries to get the intervals and > crontab entries to mesh so it worked the way I wanted. It's not > really > that difficult (and it's pretty well documented), but I managed to > combine a misreading of