Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 11:53 PM, José Maldonado wrote: > > The last days, ArsTechnica publish this new: > > http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/06/goodbye-apt-and-yum-ubuntus-snap-apps-are-coming-to-distros-everywhere/ > > "Snaps now work natively on Arch,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 6:29 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I think I've gotten burned out talking about the advantages of systemd > on Gentoo lists. If anybody wants to chat about it feel free to ping > me via email or irc, but not in a channel. You're giving up far too early!

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 12:59 AM, Michael Orlitzky <m...@gentoo.org> wrote: > On 06/06/2016 06:04 PM, Tom H wrote: >> 1) I've never used systemd on Gentoo but I assume that you can >> co-install openrc and systemd. So you'd want to check whether systemd >> is runni

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd to manage (DNS) security?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:19 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM, James wrote: >> >> https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2016-June/014964.html > > That's pretty old news. In any case, you certainly don't need to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 6:27 PM, J. wrote: > El dom, 05-06-2016 a las 12:09 -0400, Michael Orlitzky escribió: >> >> Does that happen with rc-service, too? Or only with the init script >> (which uses openrc-run)? I recently updated the job on the wiki to >> use rc-service

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:23 AM, J. wrote: > > SYSTEMD_INIT_PID=`pgrep -o -U 0 systemd` Doesn't systemd call "init" rather "systemd" if you use the "sysv-utils" flag?

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 12:48 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I'm planning on adding USE=cron to mail-filter/spamassassin to perform > nightly updates. I have a script that works for OpenRC, > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SpamAssassin#Daily_updates > > but I've commented where I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig ?

On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 12:52 AM, James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Tom H gmail.com> writes: >> >> Perhaps: >> /usr/src/linux/scripts/kconfig/Makefile >> /usr/src/linux/scripts/kconfig/conf.c > > thx, You're welcome. I'm not too sure what you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig ?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:42 PM, James wrote: >>> >>> 1) #make silentoldconfig >>> 2) #make olddefconfig >>> 3) #make oldconfig >>> >>> (3) still seems to work. (2) uses defaults so I do not want that, >>> but what about (1)? What's the difference between (1) and (3) ?

Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig ?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 4:01 AM, James wrote: > > After copying the current ".config" to the newly linked sources > (/usr/src/linux) I use to run 'make oldconfig'. Now, looking at > the gentoo wiki [1] I see (2) choices but no 'make oldconfig':: > > 1) #make

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving names of local hosts locally

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> >> Solution: obey best practice. Never run auth and cache on the same >> address. On the same machine is fine, they are different daemons.

Re: [gentoo-user] resolving names of local hosts locally

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:01 AM, Adam Carter wrote: >> >> There are several problems with your idea. First, the configured >> >> namservers in resolv.conf are caching servers, not authoritative >> servers. You never configure an auth server to act as a cache. Yes, it >> can

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird "df" output

On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 12:10 AM, wrote: > > I'll admit that my system setup is a bit unusual. A long time ago, in > a place far away, hard drives were small, compared to today's standards. > The usual unix practice of multiple seprate partitions was not feasable > for me,

Re: [gentoo-user] Bind stole my /

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 9:00 PM, Jarry <mr.ja...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10-Nov-15 14:22, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Mike Gilbert <flop...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> >>> Can you try replacing /etc/mtab with a symlink to /proc/self/mount

Re: [gentoo-user] Bind stole my /

On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:32 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Jarry wrote: >> On 08-Nov-15 17:58, Mike Gilbert wrote: >>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Jarry wrote: I noted one strange thing

Re: [gentoo-user] workstation iptables

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 3:14 PM, James wrote: > > #!/bin/bash > # A basic stateful firewall for a workstation or laptop that isn't running any > # network services like a web server, SMTP server, ftp server, etc. > > if [ "$1" = "start" ] > then > echo "Starting

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:41 PM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Wednesday, August 26, 2015 6:27:14 PM Michel Catudal wrote: I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a partition and gave up. Is that bug fixed? It insists on installing on the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:03 PM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: You do need a manager like efibootmgr unless you have a really good bios menu where you can manage your entries. Only removable media is autodetected on all EFI boxes I've seen. I use GRUB2 because my

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-08-27, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: I've had serious problems in the past getting to to install on a partition and

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 12:50 PM, mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: The maintainers of grub are basically acting like dictators much like Microsoft. The whole point of using Linux was to have complete control of the PC. Who those morons think they are to tell me what I should use to boot Operating

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:05 PM, Jeremi Piotrowski jeremi.piotrow...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:19:29 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: For those of us with multiple Linux installations on a disk, that's a pretty big reason to stick with

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Thursday 27 August 2015 08:49:13 Mike Gilbert wrote: On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:27 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net I've had serious problems in the past getting [grub2] to install on a partition and gave

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: Le 2015-08-27 15:18, Fernando Rodriguez a écrit : Who are you to tell them what they should work on? They're acting like FOSS developers, many of whom work for free or underpaid so they work on whatever the fuck they

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub1: Cant ? Re: keeping grub 1

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Michel Catudal mcatu...@comcast.net wrote: The language toward us is not much nicer. There is some arrogance from the other side of the issue. We've been fighting this for years. It is a lie to say that it cannot install on a partition. What makes it not

Re: [gentoo-user] [~and64] Headsup for googled the previous one to vmlinu-chrome users

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 22 May 2015 23:13:06 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 17:04:49 -0500, Dale wrote: I also save the config with the same version part as the kernel, that way I know which config goes with which kernel.

Re: [gentoo-user] [~and64] Headsup for googled the previous one to vmlinu-chrome users

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2015 23:29:40 +0100, Mick wrote: make install does it exactly the way you are doing it, but faster and less prone to error. Hmm ... I may have used it the wrong way quite a few years ago, but it would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~and64] Headsup for google-chrome users

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 6:19 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/2015 02:38 PM, Tom H wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:13 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/2015 06:32 AM, Mick wrote: Did you also enable CONFIG_MEMCG MEMCG_KMEM in your kernel? When I use the search function

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~and64] Headsup for google-chrome users

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:13 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/22/2015 06:32 AM, Mick wrote: Did you also enable CONFIG_MEMCG MEMCG_KMEM in your kernel? When I use the search function in make menuconfig I don't see any mention of MEMCG, so I suspect that particular config item must be

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:57 AM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee l...@yagibdah.de wrote: I can't even read them on a working system. If that's true (which I highly doubt, more probably you don't know how to read

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Linux now there's the Magic SysRq Key feature for that. If enabled (I think it is by default, may be wrong) you can use ctrl-alt-sysrq plus one these keys even if your kernel panics or freezes in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to poweroff the system from user?

On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Emanuele Rusconi ema...@gmail.com wrote: Easy to remember as Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken I remember it as the reverse of busier. A variant I read somewhere is Raising (Skinny) Elephants Is So Utterly Boring. Skinny is an extra optional sync, it

Re: [gentoo-user] How to poweroff the system from user?

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 8:53 PM, microcai micro...@fedoraproject.org wrote: on Sunday 22 March 2015 02:32:00，German wrote： /sbin/poweroff says Must be a superuser :( then it's high time for you to trash away sysvint and openrc, and try systemd!!! I doubt that Fedora developers and users

Re: [gentoo-user] blockage

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 7:31 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It looks to me like sysvinit-2.88-r7 was stabilized and the maintainer of apcupsd didn't notice. From the ebuild for apcupsd-3.14.8-r2: DEPEND= || ( =sys-apps/util-linux-2.23[tty-helpers]

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: I also noticed this in the USE flags for systemd: - - sysv-utils : Install sysvinit compatibility symlinks and manpages for init, telinit, halt, poweroff, reboot, runlevel, and shutdown Should I enable

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check [Update]

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 11:42 AM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 14:03:21 -0400, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Canek had asked whether you were using systemd and therefore logind. Since you're using openrc, perhaps you should check whether installing consolekit

Re: [gentoo-user] portage alternatives

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/03/2015 00:34, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: But let's consider this: what level of chaos would arise if @system were dropped? Surely the

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check [Update]

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 8:14 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: waben...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 13 March 2015 23:28:32 Neil Bothwick wrote: I have this in /lib/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules: SUBSYSTEM==tty, KERNEL==tty[0-9]*, GROUP=tty,

Re: [gentoo-user] Screen: Cannot open your terminal '/dev/tty1' - please check [Update]

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:08 AM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 01:16:32 +0100 waben...@gmail.com wrote: waben...@gmail.com wrote: So it seems that after login you first have to chmod 770 the tty before you do a su - user (user have to be in group tty of course).

Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jc García jyo.gar...@gmail.com wrote: If you want an easy way of configuring wirless without GUI use wicd and the wicd curses client(enabled via USE flag), NetworkManager is simpler to use with a GUI, the CLI client is not so easy to use, but if you want to,

Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:27 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: Did you hear about CLI wi-fi tool iw? I am testing it right now, but seem cannot figure out how to use it iw is OK to set up an unencrypted or wep connection but you need wpa_supplicant for a wpa connection; and you need

Re: [gentoo-user] Network manager [ control of wireless and wired interafaces]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:18 PM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:15:53 PM Tom H wrote: I've never used nmcli except to get ip information (see below) but setting up NM without a gui is simple. This is my home wifi setup: # cat /etc

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: I compiled the latest gentoo-sources-3.19.1 with Canek's kerninst tool. It is configured to generate a loader-entry for the gummiboot bootloader. That bootloader is the default entry in the UEFI boot order and it

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 08.03.2015 16:59, Tom H wrote: Are the ownership and mode of e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf the same as the two others (although I'd assume that it wouldn't matter) and is it formatted

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: moved e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf to simply stefan.conf ... then it gets displayed (and boots fine as well) maybe we should name the conf-files in a different way? I listed my /boot set up in

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: The /boot partition in UEFI systems needs to be vfat. Permissions are not gonna matter that much in that. Very true. Stupid of me...

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:51 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: version?! I've never seen this and I don't use it. From [1]: title text to show in the menu version version string to append

Re: [gentoo-user] gummiboot does not display new kernel

On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 10:51:38 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Are the ownership and mode of e55a6b6a09bd2b1c50216272545a8d1f-3.19.1-gentoo.conf the same as the two others (although I'd assume that it wouldn't matter) and

Re: [gentoo-user] EFI install ( continum) [ system hangs at boot ]

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 2:00 AM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: On Saturday, February 28, 2015 12:50:37 PM Tom H wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: Efibootmgr is not a boot manager, it's an utility

Re: [gentoo-user] EFI install ( continum) [ system hangs at boot ]

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Fernando Rodriguez frodriguez.develo...@outlook.com wrote: Efibootmgr is not a boot manager, it's an utility to interface with the EFI firmware on the motherboard and you don't need to hardcode the command line on the kernel, look at the -u option of

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot ( Error loading \vmlinuz :Not found)

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 5:50 AM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, this was probably my third unsuccesful install on UEFI. This time with gummiboot. I've followed this guide: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gummiboot and did exactly what was written. What is the vmlinuz it is complaining

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:26 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I've been Googling and playing around a bit. I have the main ADSL connection to the world working via iproute2, but not the 169.254.0.0/16 net. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. My setup... * desktop PC

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Let's forget about additional routes with different metrics, and try to get the simplest case working, and move forward from there. If I have /etc/conf.d/net as... modules=( !iproute2 ) config_eth0=

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:43 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 23 Feb 2015 08:39:42 Walter Dnes wrote: Looks like it's time to play around with the ip command and try to duplicate my current setup. Does anyone have a multi-route setup similar to mine configured with

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: rpm or deb package installs

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: rpms and debs are both cpio files so the easy way is to unpack them and see what's going on: rpm2cpio name.rpm | cpio -iv --make-directories dpkg -x somepackage.deb ~/temp/ For deb packages, you can use binutils'

Re: [gentoo-user] What happened to my 2nd eth0?

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:52 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: My DSL router modem is at 192.168.123.254. I have an HDHomerun network TV tuner that insists on coming up somewhere in the 169.254.X.Y block. Up until upgrading from 32 to 64 bits, I was able to see a 2nd eth0 (i.e.

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot up error messages. Init thingy needed now??

On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: My partitions are something like this. Normal partitions, /boot and root itself. /usr and /var on LVM. Gentoo dropped support for booting without mounting

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 7:05 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/03/2015 03:29 AM, Tom H wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:46 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: This morning I got waiting on lockfile foo in /usr/portage/distfiles locking not available from my nfs3 clients when trying

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 8:46 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/02/2015 10:29 AM, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:31 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: For example, I had to add the rpcbind.service to the multi-user systemd target because even nfs3 seems to need it. You must mean

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 7:31 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: For example, I had to add the rpcbind.service to the multi-user systemd target because even nfs3 seems to need it. You must mean because especially nfsv3 needs it because, theoretically, nfsv4 doesn't need rpcbind since an nfsv4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: I believe that starting nfs-client.service or nfs-server.service starts everything needed EXCEPT rpcbind. I'd have to re-trace everything, but I think that there are multiple packages involved here and the upstream units

Re: [gentoo-user] [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 4:18 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Everybody's favoritest cuddly FOSS personality Theo de Raadt is quoted in Wikipedia as saying: NFS4 is not on our roadmap. It's a horribly bloated protocol that they keep adding crap to. The latest nfs-utils package demonstrates

Re: [gentoo-user] grub - gummiboot: good

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.01.2015 20:47, Tom H wrote: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.01.2015 19:50, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: On 28.01.2015 19:44, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: So now

Re: [gentoo-user] grub - gummiboot: good

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.01.2015 21:31, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: My command lead to a non-booting machine ... the gummiboot-entry was removed from UEFI. tried your command and rebooted, worked, thanks! You're welcome. Would you

Re: [gentoo-user] grub - gummiboot: good

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.01.2015 21:36, Tom H wrote: My command lead to a non-booting machine ... the gummiboot-entry was removed from UEFI. But IIRC the 'tree' output that you'd posted, you shouldn't have the leading '\EFI

Re: [gentoo-user] grub - gummiboot: good

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 5:20 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: I rm`ed the ESP and started over. gummiboot boots fine again. I added some entries to /etc/grub.d/40_custom (some pointers to isos etc) and ran grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/efi/EFI/grub_uefi/grub.cfg When I chose

Re: [gentoo-user] grub - gummiboot: good

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.01.2015 01:36, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2015 00:40:32 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: No need for chainloading with UEFI. Set Gummiboot as the default boot option and hold down Esc (or whichever

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 22.01.2015 um 19:06 schrieb Tom H: Sure. My point was that anyone can claim that systemd is (un)popular in the embedded space. I don't know if it is popular; in embedded systems though the last thing you need

Re: [gentoo-user] grub - gummiboot: good

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 5:31 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: ... and if you have no need for multi-booting then the kernel efi stub is very simple to configure and still works reliably (with openrc and no initrd here). No need to install a separate boot manager. It's not just

Re: [gentoo-user] grub - gummiboot: good

On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.01.2015 19:50, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: On 28.01.2015 19:44, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: So now Linux Boot Manager is gummiboot ... and grub is grub ;) And for the records: renaming Linux Boot Manager to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:06 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Samsung's starting to release Tizen-driven phones, TVs, white goods, etc. Tizen uses systemd and, given the size of Samsung, the number of systemd embedded

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Zitat von Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com: Lennart claims that the embedded world loves systemd. I suspect that, as in other corners of the Linux world, there are lovers and haters of systemd. Embedded systems also quite

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I think the fundamental flaw with systemd is the fact that the duality of support for systemd and other init solutions is so quickly abondoned. If they were allowed (encouraged) to run side by side for a few years, let

Re: [gentoo-user] SOLVED: Slow startx - Why does hostname -f hang?

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Urs Schütz u.sch...@bluewin.ch wrote: I changed /etc/hosts as Mick/Michael pointed out in an other reply, and this solved the slow response. Here the relevant part of the corrected, working /etc/hosts: # IPv4 and IPv6 localhost aliases 127.0.0.1

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and switched

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 1:01 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: BTW Todd, does Mint allow to boot only in console mode, i.e. without X and DE? If Mint uses Ubuntu's ubiquity installer, you can hit F6 then Esc to get to the kernel cmdline when you're at the screen where you choose to try or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 25 Dec 2014 09:20:15 Tom H wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 12:17:19 -0500 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 6:30 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried to boot my Asus MoBo A88XM-PLUS, after I disabled CMS and switched Secure Boot to other OS (as opposed to MS Windows), with sysrescuecd-4.4.1. Unfortunately I can't get a console due to this error: error:

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC, new boot concepts

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Old dogs and new tricks springs to mind. I am building a new PC and what with UEFI, APUs and SSDs, it feels like that the world has moved a long way since the last time I had to install gentoo. I'll be taking my time to

Re: [gentoo-user] New PC, new boot concepts

On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 19 Dec 2014 15:46:43 Todd Goodman wrote: * Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com [141219 10:22]: I am trying to find out what is considered good practice as far as UEFI/MBR and boot management goes. FWIW, I've built

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh gen too install - unsuccesful

On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM, German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: That's where I think the problem lies Mick. My system is uefi. Too bad that gen too officially doesn't support it. I just wish gentoo developers take a closer look at the issue and come out with uefi capable minimal

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unix philosophy question for old farts: the original purpose for /tmp ?

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:05 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: systemd puts /tmp on a tmpfs by default. True, but there was pushback by Fedora developers when this became the default so Lennart patched systemd for a /tmp mount in /etc/fstab to override /lib/systemd/system/tmp.mount. A

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new install using lxdeL no `run' cmd

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote: James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: OK, if that is true, who is answering your questions on lxde, which I am still using? I have lots of breakage on lxde; I do not bother fixing. I'm working on migrating to lxqt. Good

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Custom ebuilds for CoreOS

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 10:17 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: And finally, I think that alll init systems are going to become very irrelevant in the next few years, as what they provide, can be passed from a *personal cluster* to any and all hardware, dymanically. That's what the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to find out to what file(...) writes goes on a idle system...

On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 11:05 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com [14-12-06 21:16]: Prong (1) includes all issues related to systemd. Probably embedded experience with systemd is rare, just guessing. Certainly I have none of that experience. So post to those iotop

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: Adoption of Systemd by other major distros sb good for Gentoo. Disgruntled Debians, Fedoras, Archies (IIRC they've also adopted it) will have a choice of giving in or moving to Slackware or Gentoo. Many of them may

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: Some devs take this stuff too personally. Only the devs? LOL

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 11/23/2014 1:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: So, don't be surprised if FreeBSD develops something *really* similar (along the lines of the second bullet) to systemd in the future Doesn't matter

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 11/23/2014 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Also, I'll wager it likely won't be implemented in such a way as to be perceived by its user base as being shoved down their throats. Clarification -

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 11:53 PM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 21:05:16 + Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 2014 20:25:22 +0200, Gevisz wrote: I switched from Ubuntu 10.04 to Gentoo just because it forced closing window button x to the upper-left

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Gevisz gev...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 + (UTC) Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching from Ubuntu to Gentoo just to get a different desktop seems like

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 07:18:30AM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote Can you find one example of any situation where the linux kernel has ever required any specific implementation of anything in userspace as a matter of policy

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng-3.6.1 nearly no log anymore

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 04:11:56PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote USE=systemd simply means to enable support for systemd, not that it is running. Generally stuff like this should be a matter of configuration, not build

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Friday 31 October 2014 15:09:26 J. Roeleveld wrote: I've got a few systems where grub1 doesn't work. This is more likely caused by some changes in used filesystems instead of any other cause. If I really wanted

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: The systemd line was always that if you wanted to ship your logs off to another box, use rsyslog. So I've never understood the embedding of an httpd

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] NFS server broken again :(

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have an example of a service that uses After= but doesn't need a Requires= or a Wants=? I'm either being unimaginative or plain dumb, but I can't think

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: You guys should check out the ELK stack: http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/ Basically, transform logs to JSON with logstash, throw the JSON into elastic search, and make plots with Kibana. We use it at work;

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 5:47 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel a...@alectenharmsel.com wrote: You guys should check out the ELK stack: http://www.elasticsearch.org/overview/ Basically, transform logs to JSON with logstash, throw the

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: That makes perfect sense. I still have systems using the old grub. It works so why mess with it? However, I may give gummiboot a whirl, especially as UEFI let's your multiple bootloader. I use gummiboot on my laptop and

Re: [gentoo-user] Raiders of the lost package...

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 1:10 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Debain everywhere... Ubuntu everywhere... To use this library just do a apt-get build-essential, apt-get this and apt-get that...your done. It's a metapackage to install compilation and packaging packages. So the Gentoo equivalent

Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels

On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Sunday 02 November 2014 18:05:29 Tom H wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Peter Humphrey My grub-0.99 lets me choose from four kernels and two or three run levels at boot time, and grub-2 can't handle

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