[gentoo-user] email client with USE flags -gtk -kde?

2010-08-27 Thread tpar...@etherstorm.net
Can anyone recommend an email client that will work with -gtk and -kde 
USE flags? I know the common ones such as Thunderbird, Evolution, Kmail, 
and Claws are out. Is there a option similar to those or do I stick with 
something like Alpine?




[gentoo-user] 32/64bit confusion

2010-08-24 Thread tpar...@etherstorm.net
I have a new (first) gentoo amd64 install, multilib, and have been 
searching the docs, forums and google for information on how to handle 
emerges for 32bit programs on the 64bit install.


I have found some references to using -bin for 32bit programs (example: 
emerge wine-bin to get the 32bit version or emerge wine to get the 
64 bit version) but I haven't been able to get that to work; emerge 
wine-bin returns:  'emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy wine-bin.' 
Searches didn't turn up examples or explanations to help me find what I 
am doing wrong.


I also found references to making a chroot environment to use when 
running the 32bit programs, but they all made it sound like a short step 
from a dualboot - that I would not be able to use anything in my 64bit 
environment while that was running. For example, having a 32bit program 
running in windowed mode through wine while I have 64 bit work programs 
running on the same desktop, or 32 bit firefox (for flash) with the rest 
of the system 64bit.


The information must be in the documentation somewhere, but I am failing 
at finding the correct search terms to get me information newer than 
2005-2007. Thanks for any help you can give.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 32/64bit confusion

2010-08-24 Thread tpar...@etherstorm.net

On 8/24/2010 5:15 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

There is no such package. There are only very few -bin packages. In
other words, -bin is not a magic string you append to package names.

As for Wine, the ebuild changed recently to offer both 64bit as well as
32bit Wine. I think the binaries are called wine32 and wine64. Two
new USE flags have been introduced to control this: win32 and win64.
By default, both are enabled. If you disable the win64 USE flag,
you'll get only the 32bit Wine. And vice versa of course.


Thank you, that helps a great deal. Is it correct that if a program does 
have a -bin package I can emerge that and have it work as a 32 bit 
program in the 64 bit environment (and the same with wine32)?


Thank you for your patience explaining such probably simple stuff to a 
newbie. Even reading through the documents ahead of time gentoo seems to 
take a bit to wrap your brain around, but I love it so far and am 
learning a ton. :)







Re: [gentoo-user] 32/64bit confusion

2010-08-24 Thread tpar...@etherstorm.net

On 8/24/2010 5:44 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote:

Since you're building from
source, very few programs actually need to be 32-bit apps on a 64-bit
OS. ... In this case, the Wine
package maintainer has set up the ebuild to build 32-bit by default,
even on an amd64 profile.  ...
there is a whole list of packages
(app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-*) that have prebuilt binaries for things
like GTK, QT, SDL, etc.  (The packages in portage, including Wine, will
install the ones it needs automatically.)



Thank you! This makes a lot more sense now. :) I knew what I needed had 
to be there, just didn't know how to find it.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 32/64bit confusion

2010-08-24 Thread tpar...@etherstorm.net

On 8/24/2010 5:45 PM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote:

A good idea might be to install the package app-portage/eix. It allows you to, 
amongst other things, to search for packages in case you're uncertain about a 
package name. The search will also tell you whether the package is installed, 
what version as well as what use-flags there are for the package.
There are a lot of other benefits to this application so read the man page.


Extremely useful, grabbing it now, thank you!