[gentoo-user] Re: Mounting Question...
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is what I would recommend for a normal linux system: [hs]da1: /boot, 64M, ext2 [hs]da2: /, 256M, ext3 or xfs [hs]da3: LVM I used to use something like this for a long time as well, but I think it was Neil from this list, who made me think about that - what's the use of /boot here? Why a seperate /boot partition? Anyway, I now stopped using a seperate /boot and integrated it with /, so that I only need to have this: [hs]da1: /, 512m, ext3, reiserfs or maybe xfs [hs]da2: swap, size as needed [hs]da3: LVM I don't have swap on LVM, as I'd like to do suspend-to-disk, which is easier to do with an old-style partition. And I also don't resize my swap partition. But if I'd need *additional* swap, I'd create that as a LV on LVM - it's just the primary SWAP, which I like to keep off-LVM. Regards, Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Python vs C++
David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suspect C++ runs somewhat faster, but that's not the issue here. Is that actually true (especially for the Portage case)? I'd suspect that portage sometimes tends to be slow, because of the myriad of files it has to deal with. So it's I/O which is slow. Would that problem go away, if the engine would be rewritten in C++? Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Creating a restricted user
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then can't log in via GDM. Makes sense. I want the user to be able to log in via GDM but not via ssh. Is that configured in ssh? Yes, you can configure that in SSH. There are the DenyUsers DenyGroups keywords for sshd_config. Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Picasa 2.7 Beta
Hello. Google just (?) released a new version of Picasa - 2.7 beta. Did somebody of you manage to get this to run on Gentoo Linux? I downloaded the RPM from http://picasa.google.com/linux/download.html, http://dl.google.com/linux/rpm/testing/i386/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm, and unpacked it by doing: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id Now I tried to run picasa by executing: /opt/picasa/bin/picasa This seems to work - somewhat... With that, I mean that Picasa starts, but it just hangs there, see http://picasaweb.google.ch/Fam.Skwar/Screenshots/photo#5143020740590645730. I cannot click on any of the buttons and the splash screen also doesn't go away. Anyone with more luck? Cheers, Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:49:03 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz And why should that make any difference? I mean, after all, I am able to extract the package. It's just, that I cannot run it. Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:49:03 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: cd / rpm2cpio /tmp/picasa-2.7.3736-7.i386.rpm | cpio -id http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz BTW: It also now reports, that rpm2targz doesn't work *G* -- Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Picasa 2.7 Beta
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:01:55 +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=200568 reports success using rpm2targz And why should that make any difference? I mean, after all, I am able to extract the package. It's just, that I cannot run it. I'm not saying that the extraction method is important, but that someone has got it to run and detailed the steps in the bug report. Well, let's not fight, but his steps are at least as detailed as what I've written here :) Granted, he wrote that he also created desktop files - that's something, I haven't done. But I think, that's at as important as the way the stuff was extracted, don't you think? :) Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Emerging virtual/editor installs nano - why?
Hello. I installed stage-3 2007.0 and am now trying to configure it to my liking. For example, I dislike nano and would like to use vim instead. vim (among other editors) provides virtual/editor. So I thought, that I could add virtual/editor app-editors/vim to /etc/portage/profile/virtuals. BUT: winnb000488 portage # cat /etc/portage/profile/virtuals virtual/editor app-editors/vim winnb000488 portage # emerge -vpt virtual/editor These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] virtual/editor-0 0 kB [ebuild N] app-editors/nano-2.0.6 USE=-debug -justify -minimal ncurses nls -slang spell unicode 1,285 kB Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 1,285 kB Why's that? Why is nano being installed to satisfy the virtual/editor need? When I add virtual/mta mail-mta/esmtp to the virtuals file and try to emerge virtual/mta, esmtp should be installed: winnb000488 portage # echo virtual/mta mail-mta/esmtp profile/virtuals winnb000488 portage # emerge -vpt virtual/mta These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] mail-mta/esmtp-0.5.0-r1 USE=-mailwrapper 123 kB [ebuild N] net-libs/libesmtp-1.0.4 USE=-debug ssl 344 kB Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 467 kB Without that line in the virtuals file, ssmtp is going to be installed: winnb000488 portage # grep -v esmtp profile/virtuals /tmp/dummy ; cat /tmp/dummy profile/virtuals ; rm /tmp/dummy winnb000488 portage # cat profile/virtuals virtual/editor app-editors/vim winnb000488 portage # emerge -vpt virtual/mta These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N] mail-mta/ssmtp-2.61-r2 USE=-ipv6 -mailwrapper -md5sum ssl 53 kB [ebuild N] net-mail/mailbase-1 USE=pam 0 kB Total: 2 packages (2 new), Size of downloads: 53 kB So, what am I doing wrong with regards to virtual/editor? I know that I could just install app-editors/vim and be done, but I'd like to know why emerge virtual/editor doesn't work the way I expect it to work (or why my expectation is wrong). Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerging virtual/editor installs nano - why?
Hello. On Dec 7, 2007 3:56 PM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7 Dec 2007, at 13:29, Alexander Skwar wrote: Emil Beinroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a virtual/editor package in the tree, that selects nano as the default choice. How does it do that? How do I make it select something else? I think you simply emerge vi (or vim or emacs or joe or whatever) and then portage will no longer try to emerge nano (or any other editor). Yes, I know. That's one way. But why am I able to preselect the virtual/mta by editing the virtuals file and why can't this same thing be done for virtual/editor? Basically, I'd like to *preselect* what should be taken as a virtual. Best regards, Alexander
[gentoo-user] Re: Emerging virtual/editor installs nano - why?
Emil Beinroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, there is a virtual/editor package in the tree, that selects nano as the default choice. How does it do that? How do I make it select something else? A virtual/mta package does not exist ATM. True. There are just packages which PROVIDE virtual/mta. Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Emerging virtual/editor installs nano - why?
Emil Beinroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:29:54PM +0100, Alexander Skwar wrote: Emil Beinroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a virtual/editor package in the tree, that selects nano as the default choice. How does it do that? It's done by using the RDEPEND variable inside the virtual/editor ebuild. RDEPEND=|| ( app-editors/nano app-editors/dav ... That says that the package needs any of the packages in parentheses to run. If none of them are installed, the first one in the list is selected to be installed. (AFAIK) Thx. Understood. [...] How do I make it select something else? I would say you don't. Just emerge the package you want (as you already mentioned). Okay. And why am I able to preselect the mta the way I demonstrated? Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerging virtual/editor installs nano - why?
On Dec 7, 2007 4:37 PM, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 December 2007 16:21:31 Alexander Skwar wrote: So the expectation should be, that it's not going to be possible to preselect an mta the way I've shown, as soon as virtual/mta is converted to a new style virtual. Is that right? Is there work going on to change all the old style virtuals to new style ones? You are right except for the fact that virtual/mta will not be converted any time soon (if ever). Old style virtuals allow their providers to block all other providers by blocking the virtual. This isn't possible with the current format for new style virtuals so it isn't going to happen. editor didn't need that feature and thus could easily be converted... Ah, okay. Pretty bad situation, though, isn't it? I mean, with the way it is now, we've got some virtuals which work with virtuals and some, which don't. Do you happen to know, if there's a bug which should rectify this broken situation? Alexander z� ��(��j)b� b�
[gentoo-user] Re: ruby gems
Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 02:47:24 +, Thufir wrote:
Now, http://packages.gentoo.org/package/dev-ruby/rails?full_cat shows
that 1.2.5 is stable, though. 1.8.6_p110-r1 looks to be latest stable
release of ruby available through portage for x86 systems.
arrakis ~ # eix rails
[I] dev-ruby/rails
Available versions:
(1.1) 1.1.6 ~1.1.6-r1
(1.2) ~1.2.0 ~1.2.1 ~1.2.2 ~1.2.3
Installed versions: 1.1.6(1.1)(18:31:16 11/21/07)(doc fastcgi mysql
-postgres sqlite -sqlite3)
Homepage:http://www.rubyonrails.org
Description: ruby on rails is a web-application and
persistance framework
arrakis ~ #
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ eix rails
* app-admin/eselect-rails
Available versions: 0.10
Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/
Description: Manages Ruby on Rails symlinks
* dev-ruby/rails
Available versions:
(1.1) 1.1.6 (~)1.1.6-r2
(1.2) (~)1.2.3 1.2.3-r1 (~)1.2.4 1.2.5
{doc fastcgi mysql postgres sqlite sqlite3}
Homepage:http://www.rubyonrails.org
Description: ruby on rails is a web-application and persistance
framework
Found 2 matches.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ date
Do 22. Nov 10:13:26 CET 2007
If I'm interpreting eix correctly there's not even an option to unmask
1.2.5 (which shouldn't need unmasking).
You need to sync.
Alexander
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[gentoo-user] Re: Disk ARchiver command line questions
Thufir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Disk ARchiver command line questions From: Thufir hawat.thufir at gmail.com Subject: Disk ARchiver command line questions Newsgroups: gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general Date: 2007-10-17 09:09:22 GMT I've been reading the man pages, but command line stuff isn't my forte :( I want to backup some data using DAR (Disk ARchive) and here's what I have so far: arrakis ~ # arrakis ~ # arrakis ~ # ls -alh /mnt/VolGroup00/LogVol00/home/ total 24K drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Oct 17 01:55 . drwxr-xr-x 24 500 500 4.0K Oct 16 22:47 .. drwx-- 30 500 500 4.0K Oct 16 22:47 thufir arrakis ~ # arrakis ~ # dar --create /mnt/VolGroup00/LogVol00/home/thufir/ --slice 690M --tree-format --beep --pause 862 inode(s) saved with 0 hard link(s) recorded 0 inode(s) changed at the moment of the backup 0 inode(s) not saved (no inode/file change) 0 inode(s) failed to save (filesystem error) 0 inode(s) ignored (excluded by filters) 0 inode(s) recorded as deleted from reference backup Total number of inode considered: 862 EA saved for 0 inode(s) arrakis ~ # arrakis ~ # ls -alh /mnt/VolGroup00/LogVol00/home/total 106M drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Oct 17 01:57 . drwxr-xr-x 24 500 500 4.0K Oct 16 22:47 .. drwx-- 30 500 500 4.0K Oct 16 22:47 thufir -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 106M Oct 17 01:57 thufir.1.dar arrakis ~ # arrakis ~ # date Wed Oct 17 01:58:01 PDT 2007 arrakis ~ # Starting with the least important questions and increasing in significance: 1.) How can I change the command so the .dar files are named backup. [n].dar instead of thufir.[n].dar? By using the --create option :) I use: --create /.backup/2007-11-13 Result: Files named 2007-11-13.1.dar, 2007-11-13.2.dar ... get created in the /.backup directory. 2.) As it stands, it's going to take 862 slices to backup this data without compression? No. What makes you think that? I asked for slices of 690M, why is it only showing as 106M for this particular slice? Because all of your data is only 106M big, after compression. 3.) Do I just burn thufir.1.dar to disc (CD-R) as a regular data disc using, for example, the builti-in nautilus burner? Yes. If you trust CD-R, that is :) 4.) How do I get DAR to generate the second slice? It does it automatically, as soon as the slice reaches the specified maximum size. I know that these questions are answered in the manual, Yes. PS: There's a dar mailing list as well. Dennis, the author of dar, reads it and very quickly responds there as well; always very helpful! Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: glibc unmerged by accident
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 18:49 -0500, de Almeida, Valmor F. wrote: glibc was unmerged and now I can't use common shell commands such as ls or cp to list and copy files from a backup. I am thinking that to fix this I will have to boot from a cd and emerge glibc. [...] busybox ash Hopefully it's not dynamically linked ... But even then, he won't have much luck emerging something, as gcc requires glibc. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: glibc unmerged by accident
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He just wanted to copy over some files from backup. Specifically he requested common shell commands such as ls or cp Well, he requested, that he wanted to do a merge: | I am thinking that to fix this I will have to boot from a cd and emerge | glibc. He also said, that he cannot use common shell commands anymore, that's true. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: OT: Is EVMS dead?
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: pvcreate /dev/hda vgcreate data /dev/hda lvcreate -L42g data mkfs /dev/data/lvol0 What's so hard about that? Does that fit on a postcard? it needs a little more detail so a user can extrapolate to what they need but, The detail can be found in the howto; eg. http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html What is hard however is developing the postcard level documentation for disaster recovery. - Get new drive - Do as mentioned above - Get stuff from backup Pretty short, if you ask me ;) -v: pvcreate /dev/hda: Intialize the device as a physical volume (pv), so that it can be used by LVM. One time job. would need reference physical volume, physical device associations (i.e. single disc or hardware raid). What? is there any way to display/enumerate them independent of non-LVM devices? Pardon? vgcreate data /dev/hda: Create a container called data which will hold the different sub-containers. The data container is made up of the /dev/hda physical volume. what is a sub container? Exactly. why is it needed? when do you need it? That's too basic. People asking that kind of question shouldn't be administering a system. do/can you create a container spanning multiple devices? When, how, why? See howto. lvcreate -L42g data: Create a logical volume (lv) on the data volume group (vg). It's sized 42g (42GiB). again, is a logical volume a single physical volume? They don't belong together. See the howto. If the volume group called data (how did it get from container to volume group) What? is the same as the physical volume, It isn't. As explained in the howto. why not just use the physical volume? What? mkfs /dev/data/lvol0: Create a file system on the newly created lv. in other words, the logical volume is treated by the system in exactly the same way as a physical volume. Nope. It's a logical disk. What? these are just some of the naïve user questions that come to mind. Those users shouldn't admin a system. They aren't answers concisely in most of the documentation I have seen. Part of the reason I say explain it on a postcard is because the format forces you to focus your thoughts and explain the system concisely. And those useless questions are because you wanted a postcard explanation. with your users or the implementation is really off. Nope. Some things simply *ARE* complicated. Richard Feynman, a great physicist, once stated that if you can not explain a (physics) problem at a freshman level then you don't understand the problem. Might be. But you need to have more space than a postcard. Edward Tufte has a series of books on information design simplifying complicated things so that you can communicate clearly. Either of these men are smarter than you and I put together. That's not hard (well, at least as far as being smarter than me is concerned *G*). Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] glibc upgrade - re-emerge system?
Hello! This morning, I upgraded to glibc 2.7 from whatever used to be current in ~x86 before that (2.6.). Do you guys do a emerge -e system, ie. recompile everything, after such an upgrade? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Trying to install binary package - Endless loop of cache miss?
Hello.
I'm trying to install one package from a binary package http host.
To do so, I added to my make.conf:
PORTAGE_BINHOST=http://public-files.askwar.gentoo-packages.s3.amazonaws.com/GentooUSB/packages/All/;
Now I'm running:
winnb000488 / # emerge --verbose --debug --getbinpkgonly -pt zip
myaction None
myopts {'--tree': True, '--usepkgonly': True, '--pretend': True, '--getbinpkg':
True, '--buildpkg': True, '--alphabetical': True, '--verbose': True, '--debug':
True, '--getbinpkgonly': True, '--usepkg': True}
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies Fetching binary packages info...
cache miss: 'x' --- cache hit: 'o'
And the x keep on appearing.
What's taking so long there? The directory index isn't that big (51k, see
http://public-files.askwar.s3.amazonaws.com/public-files.askwar.gentoo-packages.s3.amazonaws.com_GentooUSB_packages_All.index.htm).
Thanks,
Alexander Skwar
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Is EVMS dead?
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirk Heinrichs wrote: heap. It's a classic example of second system syndrome as defined by the mythical Man month. Errh, what? rtfb it was published in 1972, is still in print and the first five chapters are as relevant today as they were when it was first published. It explains why software projects fail. I think it's pretty sad when failings in an industry recognized 35 years ago are still happening today. Brooks says write one system to throw away because you are going to anyway. The first time you implement, you don't understand the problem and you frequently leave out functionality or implement things in a clumsy or incorrect way. This next implementation you, in theory, understand the problem and can do a better job which leads us to... second system syndrome. when you implement a system for the second time you think you have the problem fully understood, add lots of features and capabilities and end up with a disaster on your hands because you over estimated your capabilities. which is really Fred Brooks's way of saying write two system to throw away because you're going to anyway. a great example of this is Microsoft. They rarely get anything right until the third version (implementation). Other examples are easily found if you just look. It's overly complicated, poorly documented, and has a terrible user interface that only a geek would even consider using. What's wrong with the excelent user guide on the project's site? Which of the three UIs exactly do you think is horrible? could never get the containers nesting right. What container nesting? Oh, you're talking about EVMS? I too never got the hang of it. I'm perfectly fine with using plain LVM. If the instructions on how to use an LVM can't be explained on a postcard, you don't understand how to communicate pvcreate /dev/hda vgcreate data /dev/hda lvcreate -L42g data mkfs /dev/data/lvol0 What's so hard about that? Does that fit on a postcard? -v: pvcreate /dev/hda: Intialize the device as a physical volume (pv), so that it can be used by LVM. One time job. vgcreate data /dev/hda: Create a container called data which will hold the different sub-containers. The data container is made up of the /dev/hda physical volume. lvcreate -L42g data: Create a logical volume (lv) on the data volume group (vg). It's sized 42g (42GiB). mkfs /dev/data/lvol0: Create a file system on the newly created lv. with your users or the implementation is really off. Nope. Some things simply *ARE* complicated. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Is EVMS dead?
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric Martin wrote: drive. All I had to do was vgscan and vgchange -a y and I was up and running. Actually, I too had a problem with my VG's named the same thing. It wasn't a problem to access different LV's but I changed the VG anyway. As a pointer for people, you might want to append the name of your box to your VG, that way it will be (probably) unique on your network. Also you'll know where you are if you need to do a backup like I had to. that's a really good suggestion (appending the system name). As for the just doing a VGA scan etc., never work for me. What VGA scan? Usually the drive would not be recognized and as far as the new system is concerned, the only useful thing you could do with it was format. WFM. You must be doing something strange. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Is EVMS dead?
Eric S. Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:01:28 -0500, Eric S. Johansson wrote: If you machine dies and your backups are inadequate, you may want to try and recover the disc by putting it into another system. How? If you didn't back up a bunch of magic information from the original system's /etc directory, you're well and truly screwed. Or you could run vgscan, provided everything is not auto-detected before you get the chance. if I remember correctly, and it has been quite a while, vgscan only works if your lvm.conf is intact. Merging one lvm.conf with one from another machine is tricky and is not always successful unless you are living with LVM and then it is only mostly successful. if you don't have your original lvm.conf, again if memory serves, you need to go rooting through the first fewsectors of your disk to find what looks like it might be perhaps, possibly the data you need. What the heck are you talking about? All that's needed to be done is a vgscan followed by a vgchange. That's it. in looking for examples for this kind of recovery process, I came across a rather nice page from our friends at Novell. friends? Novell, that's the enemy! Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Using Amazon S3 as a PORTAGE_BINHOST
Hello. I'd like to use one of my public buckets at Amazon S3 to store the package files. To do so, I uploaded the packages to s3. They are available at http://public-files.askwar.gentoo-packages.s3.amazonaws.com/, all stored under the prefix GentooUSB/packages, eg. at http://public-files.askwar.gentoo-packages.s3.amazonaws.com/GentooUSB/packages/All/python-updater-0.3.tbz2. To make portage use this binhost, I set in make.conf: PORTAGE_BINHOST=http://public-files.askwar.gentoo-packages.s3.amazonaws.com/GentooUSB/packages/; But when I now try to use a package from there, eg. =app-admin/python-updater-0.3, I get an error message: winnb000488 / # emerge -vp --getbinpkgonly =app-admin/python-updater-0.3 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies \Fetching binary packages info... x-amz-request-id: 1C961B660CF71C9F x-amz-id-2: qH6bzWMvFg+tG1iI0JFTefqCoxJBg3lrL2jdRVw1LrSc2djm0s+oEYiSGlHw1rgE Content-Type: application/xml Transfer-Encoding: chunked Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:10:52 GMT Server: AmazonS3 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? ErrorCodeNoSuchKey/CodeMessageThe specified key does not exist./MessageKeyGentooUSB/packages//KeyRequestId1C961B660CF71C9F/RequestIdHostIdqH6bzWMvFg+tG1iI0JFTefqCoxJBg3lrL2jdRVw1LrSc2djm0s+oEYiSGlHw1rgE/HostId/Error address: /GentooUSB/packages/ Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/emerge, line 5481, in ? retval = emerge_main() File /usr/bin/emerge, line 5476, in emerge_main myopts, myaction, myfiles, spinner) File /usr/bin/emerge, line 4802, in action_build mydepgraph = depgraph(settings, trees, myopts, myparams, spinner) File /usr/bin/emerge, line 991, in __init__ --getbinpkgonly in self.myopts) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/portage.py, line 6598, in populate self.remotepkgs = getbinpkg.dir_get_metadata( File /usr/lib/portage/pym/getbinpkg.py, line 448, in dir_get_metadata filelist = dir_get_list(baseurl, conn) File /usr/lib/portage/pym/getbinpkg.py, line 294, in dir_get_list raise Exception, Unable to get listing: %s %s % (rc,msg) Exception: Unable to get listing: 404 Server did not respond successfully (404: Not Found) I suppose that's so, because there's no /GentooUSB/packages directory on the server? If you go to http://public-files.askwar.gentoo-packages.s3.amazonaws.com/GentooUSB/packages/, you only get a 404 error. But the file http://public-files.askwar.gentoo-packages.s3.amazonaws.com/GentooUSB/packages/All/python-updater-0.3.tbz2 exists just fine. Does anyone know, if it's somehow possible to use S3 with Portage as a host for PORTAGE_BINHOST? Thanks, Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] libxml++config.h missing - what package should provide the file?
Hello. I'm trying to compile gnome-extra/assogiate-0.2.0, and it fails, because it cannot find libxml++config.h: In file included from /usr/include/libxml++-2.6/libxml++/exceptions/parse_error.h:25, from ../libassogiate/mime-type.hh:30, from mime-package.hh:26, from mime-package.cc:24: /usr/include/libxml++-2.6/libxml++/exceptions/exception.h:28:28: error: libxml++config.h: No such file or directory Could somebody please tell me, which package should provide this file? And while we're at it, does anybody know if there's something like the now gone PFS, Portage File Search service, which used to be at http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~fejf/cgi-bin/pfs-web.pl? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: permissions, fstab and LVM
Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2007 schrieb Thufir: Read my first response again: In fstab you specify who can _mount_ a volume. In the _mounted_ volumes filesystem, you specify access rights using chmod, chgrp, chown or, if using ACLs, setfacl. And if you don't want to do that, maybe switch the filesystemtype to something like VFAT? This way, you don't have to worry about permissions anymore and can specify the owner in fstab. Wnat is meant by mounting the volume recursively, please? Don't know, didn't write that. I wrote: ...mount, then (recursively) change permissions... Well, the then was missing :) Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: LVM : pros cons
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extra benefits of LVM: You won't need this right now for your simple desktop with one drive, but it's good to know what else LVM can do: Snapshots. Well, I disagree. This feature is also very useful on a single drive setup. Reason why: Backup. You can easily create snapshot(s) and then backup those snapshot volumes. And at the same time, you can keep on working on the normal filesystems. This is a lifesaver if your job is to perform backups of 4TB databases that can never be taken down for backups. IMO it's also good for smaller setups. For huge setups, it's sort of a must, exactly as you wrote. If you need any more convincing, IBM mainframes and HP machines running HP-UX have required you to use LVM for years now - you can't get to the disks without using LVM. Not true. With HP-UX 11.11, you could also choose *NOT* to use LVM. But nobody in a right state of mind would do that :) (Well, generally speaking at least. There will certainly be some corner cases, I suppose.) Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: To Neil Bothwick: Question re ntfs-3g
Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil, back on 15 July, you stated that you used ntfs-3g with only the in-kernel fuse modules. That's what I'm doing as well. When I try that, I get the following error: error while loading shared libraries: libfuse.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I find I have to use sys-fs/fuse to be able to mount ntfs-3g. Correct. You need to install sys-fs/fuse, as it contains the library, some binaries and *OPTIONALLY* the kernel module. The module will only be built, if the user has NOT built the module in the kernel. Is there something else I should be doing? Install sys-fs/fuse :) Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] X.Org 1.4 with Nvidia?
Hello. When X.Org 1.4 first hit the portage tree, I masked it, as I had quite some problems getting it to work work with my Nvidia graphics card. I decided to stay with 1.3.0.0 for the time being. Now x11-base/xorg-server-1.4-r2 is in the tree. And also a new version of nvidia-drivers (nvidia-drivers-100.14.19). Does anyone know, if it's now safe to use xorg 1.4 with nvidia-drivers? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: emerge world
Arnau Bria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [blocks B ] media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.2 (is blocking [sys-power/hibernate-script-1.96-r1) So, I tryied to remove splasutils version: emerge -C =media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.2 but: # emerge -C =media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.2 Yep. It's saying, that any version before 1.5.2 is blocking. So, do: emerge -C 'media-gfx/splashutils-1.5.2' Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
· Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I don't buy the people that attack me is just jealous/trolling argument, sorry. Assuming good faith is always better. To tell I'm right and B is lying is quite trollish too. To tell I'm right, B If I was not informed about the background I may have thought in a similar way. But please tell me what you would do if you have been attacked in an unfair way? If *YOU* are attacked, it's mostly not unfair. There's most certainly some prior history. Most of the time, you attacked other people first. It is usual not to believe unproven claims, but why do so many people believe the unproven claims from Mr. Bloch? Maybe, just maybe, it's because of how you are? The problem with all the attacks was that the people around Mr. Bloch spread vague unproven claims as usual in calumniation campaigns. When asked to prove their claims, they either started with new vague attacks or stopped answering. *LOL* You've got the nerve to say that? When you, Jörg, post to Usenet and use Umlauts, your client neglects to add the necessary headers. You've been asked more than once by numerous people to prove your claim, that what you're doing is correct. The problem, however, is that -being it your fault or not- that incident somehow made hard for some people to rely on your tools. :( You cannot rely on the fork because it is full of bugs Works good enough for me. that never have been in the original software and because no bugs are fixed since nearly 6 months. Latest *RELEASE* was at 2007/05/06. Latest *RELEASE* of cdrecord is dated 09.09.2004. You cannot rely on it because it has been initiated by people who attack free software. You're talking about cdrecord? Alexander Skwar -- Death is a spirit leaving a body, sort of like a shell leaving the nut behind. -- Erma Bombeck -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] hald won't start
Hello! Since this morning, I'm unable to start hald. This is in so far a pretty big problem, as this means, that I cannot boot :| After setting HALD_VERBOSE=yes in /etc/rc.conf, I found that it filled the syslog with a lot of lines like device_info.c:984: Unhandled rule (0)! Searching the archive of this list, I found a thread started by Mick on July 14; see eg. http://www.nabble.com/forum/ViewPost.jtp?post=11596495framed=y In this thread, Alessandro del Gallo suggested to move files from /etc/udev/rules.d out of the way, to figure out what's exactly causing the issue. I did that, and even when I have *no* files at all in rules.d anymore, I cannot start hald by running /usr/sbin/hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes. From what other sources is hald fetching rules? Ie. what other file/directory might I need to empty? Thanks, Alexander -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hald won't start [SOLVED, sort of...]
Hi again! Quoting Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Since this morning, I'm unable to start hald. [...] device_info.c:984: Unhandled rule (0)! I found that this bug 172830 http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172830. This bug has to do with libgphoto2. Yesterday, I set the environment variable CAMERAS to only directory, as I don't have any camera requiring special treatment. When libphoto2 is build with CAMERAS=directory (and nothing else), it'll create bad HAL files. Workaround: Either don't set CAMERAS at all (meaning that all cameras will be built), or add at least one dummy camera. I took the 2nd solution; ie. in my make.conf, I now have: CAMERAS=ptp2 directory. After having rebuild libgphoto2, the system starts up fine. Have a nice day, Alexander Skwar This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:34:41 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: What does this have to do with GNU tar and it adding superflous options? Quite a lot. -j et.al. are non-standard options. If a (badly written) script relies on the presence of -j, this script won't work with a POSIX compliant tar The script is only badly written if it is supposed to be POSIX compliant. Additional features can enhance a program Given that we're talking about use of non-standard options present only in GNU tar vs. easily accessible standard compliant ways of solving the same problem: No, a script is badly written, if it makes use of non-standard options. and make scripts using it more readable/efficient/compact, providing the environment does not require POSIX-compliance. e.g. portage can use tar-specific enhancements if tar is in system on all profiles. Yes, it's very bad that Gentoo scripts don't limit themselves to POSIX. Another windmill to fight against. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Alexander Skwar, Yes, it's very bad that Gentoo scripts don't limit themselves to POSIX. Another windmill to fight against. Artificially limiting yourself to the lowest common denominator when better options are available is bad, and discourages evolution. Well, depends. Making use of non standard options when standard compliant options are avialable, is no-good evolution. It very much tastes of the way Microsoft handles standards. Eg. have a look at how MS treated Java or HTML (granted, Netscape wasn't much better either). Back to tar: Why use tar -j in scripts, when bzip2 | tar does the same thing? I very much disagree that tar -j is the better option here; in fact, I'd say that bzip2 | tar is the better option, as it works on a lot more systems than tar -j does. Heck, tar -j even does not work on all GNU tar implementations, as very old GNU tars don't have bzip2 support at all and -j wasn't always used for bzip2. POSIX specifies the minimum set of options and features, not the maximum. As long as the standards aren't broken, nothing is wrong, and adding new, useful and compatible features is one way that standards get improved. No, it's not. To improve a standard, you make sure that the standard gets amended and then you implement something. Not the other way around. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:14:58 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: Back to tar: Why use tar -j in scripts, when bzip2 | tar does the same thing? I very much disagree that tar -j is the better option here; Either way requires that you first determine the type of compression used before you can decide where to pipe tar's output, if at all. Whereas something like tar xf somefile avoids the need to do file somefile and parse the output first. Pardon? tar xf somefile doesn't do any compression at all. I don't get what you mean. in fact, I'd say that bzip2 | tar is the better option, as it works on a lot more systems than tar -j does. Heck, tar -j even does not work on all GNU tar implementations, as very old GNU tars don't have bzip2 support at all and -j wasn't always used for bzip2. If you don't know the details of the platform running your script, you should of course stick to POSIX, which tar can do fine. No, GNU tar is not completely POSIX compliant. The files it creates don't completely comply to the standard. But that's another story. But if your script in running in an environment you control, why not make use of more efficient methods? If there are more efficient methods: Maybe. But if the non standard options aren't more efficient, why use them at all? tar -j is a good example here: Internally, tar invokes the external bzip2 command. So with tar | bzip2 vs. tar -j, both are equally efficient. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: star
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:45:51 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: Either way requires that you first determine the type of compression used before you can decide where to pipe tar's output, if at all. Whereas something like tar xf somefile avoids the need to do file somefile and parse the output first. Pardon? tar xf somefile doesn't do any compression at all. I don't get what you mean. No, but it does do whatever decompression is required. Hey, that's a nice feature. I didn't know about that. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Sep 2007, at 09:30, Alexander Skwar wrote: ... and if p7zip supports pipes, you don't need its support in tar. Just pipe from/to it. It does and that's the way it's supposed to be used on unix, according to its manpage. GNU tar features the -j, -z and -Z options. Yes, bad, isn't it? These options are not part of the Posix standard. It would be good, if these superflous options wouldn't be present at all. I say superflous, as pipes work just fine. These are much more convenient than piping, No. and it would be nice to see p7zip supported in the same way. No. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: star
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar schrieb: Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: star supports p7zip which can be much better and especially more flexible than bzip2, gzip and zip. Uhm, what's bad about tar cf - | p7zip It's a bit cumbersome to create a pipe each time I access an archive. Okay. I don't think so. I used find and grep to search for any implementations of tar compressing to stdout - I couldn't find any. What do you mean? Just that I used regular expressions to search for tar writing to stdout, something that star can't, apparently. star can write to stdout. ./star -c -f - . ../s It seems it didn't work. What is it? Not all but some emerge actions failed while using star. No wonder. Command line options aren't compatible. And hell will freeze before Mr. Schilling will change. I'll move /bin/tar to /bin/gnutar and make a symlink from /usr/bin/star to /bin/tar. Let's see if it works. Command line options aren't identical. I wouldn't wonder if you run into problems. Well, most are. Not really. For GNU tar, tar cf - . ../s would work. Not so for star. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar ha scritto: Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24 Sep 2007, at 09:30, Alexander Skwar wrote: ... and if p7zip supports pipes, you don't need its support in tar. Just pipe from/to it. It does and that's the way it's supposed to be used on unix, according to its manpage. GNU tar features the -j, -z and -Z options. Yes, bad, isn't it? These options are not part of the Posix standard. It would be good, if these superflous options wouldn't be present at all. I say superflous, as pipes work just fine. It's not that an option becomes bad just because it's not carved into the POSIX standard. To a degree, it is. What's important, I guess, is that tar is POSIX-compliant, so that if you want, you can build POSIX-compliant scripts etc. , Depends. On the hand, you're right. But if non-compliant options exist, people tend to use them. That's bad in so far, as they get used to non-standard behaviour. That's especially bad, as standard compliants solution exist. but I can't see how non-POSIX but handy extensions could be bad. Let me give you a different example, although it has nothing to do with POSIX. Internet Explorer translates a \ in a URL to /. That's a non standard compliant behaviour. Now, as many people (still *G*) use IE, many people rely on that mis-behaviour of IE and make it hard for non-misbehaving browsers (ie. Mozilla) to display the content. What does this have to do with GNU tar and it adding superflous options? Quite a lot. -j et.al. are non-standard options. If a (badly written) script relies on the presence of -j, this script won't work with a POSIX compliant tar (like star or any Unix tar (eg. Sun, HP, ...)). Is that bad? Yes, it is. It is bad, as there's an easily accessible solution to this problem available: Use pipes! In this case, the solution would be: tar cf - dir | bzip2 dir.tar.bz2 tar cf - dir | 7z a -si dir.tar.7z Or for decompression: bzcat dir.tar.bz2 | tar xf - 7z x -so dir.tar.7z | tar xf - Maybe it's me not seeing the problem. Yep. Maybe the POSIX standard could just be extended as well. :) Equally fine. and it would be nice to see p7zip supported in the same way. No. No means nothing. Tell us why. Pipes exist. The current integration of 7-zip is fine. There's no need to integrate other compression into tar. Actually, there's no need at all to integrate ANY compression alg. into tar. Furthermore, especially with 7zip, an integration into tar would make the use of 7zip somewhat limited, as all of the additional command line options of 7z would not be accessible anymore. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I'd like to know: Is it fully backward compatible to tar? Could I safely unmerge tar and make a symlink from tar to star? star is fully Posix compliant. GNU tar is not. In theory, there could be problems with GNU tar tar archives if they are unpacked using star. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: star
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Samstag, 22. September 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: star supports p7zip which can be much better and especially more flexible than bzip2, gzip and zip. Its other features (better funcionality for acl, sparse files, recovery and backups among other things) didn't sound bad, either. I don't know - bzip2 is very good at 'recovery' because only the affected block is lost. True - in theory. It doesn't help you much, if you lose a block in a .tar.bz2 file, as the block sizes of bzip2 and tar won't overlap. Thus, something like .bz2.tar would be better, meaning a tar which contains pre compressed files. Granted, compression ratio would be worse. If you want safety, I'd either suggest afio or maybe something like par. and if p7zip supports pipes, you don't need its support in tar. Just pipe from/to it. It does and that's the way it's supposed to be used on unix, according to its manpage. as you can see, you need to play around with pipes anyway when you use star. So switching just because of one compression algo and become incompatible with the way emerge unpacks packages sounds pretty stupid IMHO. ACK Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Hacked by association?
· Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: tcp localhost:10030 tcp *:snpp [...] With netstat -lp it looks like *:snpp is associated with apache2 and is using the same pid as *:http and *:https. If that's so, then there should be a Listen directive in httpd.conf or one of the included files. Do a grep -r 444 /etc/apache2 444 is the number associated with snpp. Alexander Skwar -- Ever get the feeling that the world's on tape and one of the reels is missing? -- Rich Little -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: SSH won't restart
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Well, I also found myself being unable to start sshd, but these most often were due to some configuration changes. And exactly for this is why test-restart was proposed by me. And exactly in these cases, a test-restart won't work, as you'd need to shutdown the primary sshd first. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: SSH won't restart
Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 16 September 2007 18:01:48 Alexander Skwar wrote: Key words in some circumstances. Like? Actually, I never found this to be true. Never? Good for you. Yep. Grant, the original poster would disagree (who got himself locked out due to the inability to restart sshd BTW), and so would I as it happened to me today and has done several times in the past Well, I also found myself being unable to start sshd, but these most often were due to some configuration changes. Never had I found, that shutting down all the running ssh sessions would have helped. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
· Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS Forget about it. There are far too many open proxies out there, like my own at http://alexander.skwar.name/~askwar/stuff/proxy/. Blacklists don't work. BTW: This has nothing at all to do with Gentoo. Alexander Skwar -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
· Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Could you not add the sites to your hosts file and point them back to local? No. This won't hinder a user from accessing a proxy site and have that site fetch and display the content. Check out one of the MANY MANY proxy sites at http://proxy.org/. Alexander Skwar -- Ad astra per aspera. [To the stars by aspiration.] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: [gentoo]Block certain websites
· Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 16 September 2007, Alexander Skwar wrote: · Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi all, This is to know how to block certain websites as I intend to set up a browsing centre based on Gentoo OS Forget about it. There are far too many open proxies out there, like my own at http://alexander.skwar.name/~askwar/stuff/proxy/ /me makes a mental note to bookmark this Feel free to use it. No guarantees about performance, though ;) /me makes another note to buy Alexander a beer next time I go to Europe :-) *g* Thanks. One important thing to note, though. It's important to remember that the proxy operator could easily sniff all the traffic that's going through the proxy. The proxy needs to be able to read the traffic. Now, I swear that *I* am not going to log any traffic going through my system. But you've gotta decide if you trust me... On a larger note, exactly this question was the reason for the recent tor problem, cf. http://www.derangedsecurity.com/time-to-reveal%e2%80%a6/ or http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/09/11/1730258. Cheers, Alexander Skwar PS: *LOL* My signature is random. I _swear_ :) -- Simon: I swear - when it's appropriate. Kaylee: Simon, the whole point of swearing is that it ain't appropriate. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: SSH won't restart
· Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: However, I think I just found a solution. openssh, in some circumstances (I believe to be openssl changing ABI), will not restart as you found. It will only not restart when it's being actively used, so you can't do so will logged in. To restart it when your logged out on a remote server is simply a matter of doing this: # (sleep 15 /etc/init.d/sshd restart) Hm? I don't find this to be true. I often restart sshd by doing exactly /etc/init.d/sshd restart. While I'm remote logged in via SSH. I find, that after having done this, new settings/versions are active. Alexander Skwar -- Seeing is believing. You wouldn't have seen it if you hadn't believed it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart
· Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 16 September 2007 16:40:45 Alexander Skwar wrote: openssh, in some circumstances (I believe to be openssl changing ABI), will not restart as you found. It will only not restart when it's being actively used, so you can't do so will logged in. I've just done this on a remote system and can now happily log back in, and restart ssh without issue. Hm? I don't find this to be true. I often restart sshd by doing exactly /etc/init.d/sshd restart. While I'm remote logged in via SSH. I find, that after having done this, new settings/versions are active. Key words in some circumstances. Like? Actually, I never found this to be true. Alexander Skwar -- I hate trolls. Maybe I could metamorph it into something else -- like a ravenous, two-headed, fire-breathing dragon. -- Willow -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: SSH won't restart
· Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Graham Murray wrote: What circumstances? I too have performed updates on several remote systems via SSH and run /etc/init.d/sshd restart and never had any problems. Something like /etc/init.d/sshd test-restart would be nice. For what? It'd allow all of us to stop worrying about a potential restart/lockout issue. A /etc/init.d/sshd stop won't kill any SSH sessions. It'll simply the sshd master process. Because of that, additional logins won't be possible. Alexander Skwar -- I remember Ulysses well... Left one day for the post office to mail a letter, met a blonde named Circe on the streetcar, and didn't come back for 20 years. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: SSH won't restart
· Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Alexander Skwar wrote: A /etc/init.d/sshd stop won't kill any SSH sessions. It'll simply the sshd master process. Because of that, additional logins won't be possible. You seem to believe that most people makes no mistakes. No, I don't. I wouldn't need test-restart (I use the one-time telnetd-over-vpn), but it seems others might find it useful. For what? What should it safeguard against? You can't just start a 2nd instance of sshd while the 1st is still running, as they (usually) should then bind to the same port. That won't work, obviously. Alexander Skwar -- Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. -- Abraham Lincoln -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. I should have started that a number of the failures have come while doing revdep-rebuild. One seemingly large problem is that revdep-rebuild wants to rebuild packages that are no longer in portage so you have to remove those from the rebuild or attempt to change revision numbers by hand on the fly in the long command that revdep-rebuild -p creates. revedep-rebuild -X. That's default in the rewritten version. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Immensely disappointed in emerge -DuN world these days
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe the revdep-rebuild guys should (could?) include -X if it's the right thing to do? They do. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] -mno-tls-direct-seg-refs for Xen
Hello. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xen_and_Gentoo#TLS_and_CFLAGS states, that '-mno-tls-direct-seg-refs' is to be added to the CFLAGS. Do I need this flag on my dom0, or just on my domU's? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mouse Paste
· Korthrun [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This did work before I changed everything from the basic xmouse config. I'd change everything back to the normal config and then gradually at stuff, until it breaks again. This way, you'll see when it breaks and it'll be easier to help you. Alexander Skwar -- Ace: Don't you realize that with Buttercup on our side ... WE COULD CONTROL TOWNSVILLE?! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Extending a partition with LVM on it
· Marc Joliet [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What I want to know is, how would I go about filling the gap to have a single, large partition for maindisk? You don't need to. You'd create a new partition, make that a pv (pvcreate) and then run vgextend to include that new pv in maindisk. For the moment I added a new partition (via cfdisk, that I did dare do) that takes up the entire gap and extended maindisk to that. Fine. It's not what I wanted, but it works. What do you dislike about this? Alexander Skwar -- MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it. -- from Lars Wirzenius' .sig -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
· Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There's one thing that has prevented me from ever using LVM: the need to have an initrd (or initramfs). You only need an initrd, if you wish to have / on LVM. But if you put / (incl. /boot) on a normal partition, there's no need at all for an initrd. Alexander Skwar -- Chuck Norris is not Politically Correct. He is just Correct. Always. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
· Remy Blank [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Well, I haven't spent much time looking at rescue CDs, I have always used Knoppix up to now and it has been good enough. I'll just check that recent LVM tools are on it. Knoppix is *NOT* a rescue disc! It lacks some essential tools, eg. LVM stuff. I recommend GRML as a rescue disc. Alexander Skwar -- Promising costs nothing, it's the delivering that kills you. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: 500 meg / partition (including /boot) *WITHOUT USING LVM*
· Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 10:45:15AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote You will always have a pretty good idea how much space / needs, it contains /bin, /sbin, /etc, /root and /lib. Unless oyu are in the habit of storing stuff in /root, 500M is plenty. So put / on a regular partition, everything else in LVM and your initramfs worries go away. s/LVM/a partition using the rest of the hard drive/ No way. For sure not a partition of size ~500 G. That's something you never ever do. The only thing you need worry about is where are you going to get a decent howto that explains the concepts. You are dealing with three layers of stuff on top of physical partitions and some docs out there are ... confusing. Once you get the picture fully, it's as easy pie and makes perfect sense. Remove the LVM layer and things become even easier. Does it? How do you have different filesystem types for different directories? How do you minimize the effect of a corrupted filesystem? Really, LVM is the answer to all those prayers you have been sending up to $DEITY for years :-) Exactly. I don't get why people try so hard to not use LVM. Alexander Skwar -- Reed It is important to note that the primary reason the Roman Empire fail is that they had no concept of zero... thus they could not test the success or failure of their C programs. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: df shows /dev/dm-* instead of LV name
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A bug report is certainly warranted, the information reported now is useless. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=190853 Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] df shows /dev/dm-* instead of LV name
Hello. Since recently, when I ran df, it printed the volume group and logical volume names. Now it prints: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 484602328049151549 69% / udev 10240 136 10104 2% /dev devshm 253956 0253956 0% /dev/shm /dev/dm-1 2844672 1816768 1027904 64% /usr /dev/dm-4 1048540198972849568 19% /tmp [...] Note the /dev/dm-1 and /dev/dm-4. This used to be something like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /mandriva/boot $ df Dateisystem 1K-Blöcke Benutzt Verfügbar Ben% Eingehängt auf /dev/root 396623342210 33931 91% / udev 10240 168 10072 2% /dev /dev/mapper/sys-ng_USR 3165112 2612868397628 87% /usr /dev/mapper/sys-ng_Var 524268139316384952 27% /var [...] Any idea about why the hetzner system shows dm-1? And what needs to be done to change that? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- Jealousy is all the fun you think they have. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage File Search gone - alternatives?
Hello! I used the Portage File Search page at http://www.rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de/~fejf/cgi-bin/pfs-web.pl quite a lot, because it was just a great service. But as it seems, it is gone - at least for now :( Does anyone know of any alternatives? I'm looking for something which allows me to enter a filename of a *NOT* *INSTALLED* *FILE*, and it'll return me to which package this file belongs. Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- If it wasn't for Newton, we wouldn't have to eat bruised apples. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-portage.com gentoo-wiki.com
Aleksey V. Kunitskiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Anybody knows what is going on there? Their mysql server is down. I bet, it's because too many people used these sites, while the official sites are down. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to install mono on a new system. To do that, I'm building everything inside a chroot (it's the same system I referred to in the [...] mono-1.2.4 fails as well: [...] | [build/deps/basic-profile-check.exe] Error 1 make[6]: Entering directory | `/Gentoo/Portage/build/portage/dev-lang/mono-1.2.4/work/mono-1.2.4/mcs' | *** The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date *** You | may want to try 'make get-monolite-latest' ` [...] I'm building/compiling all of that on a Athlon XP system (no 64bit). It should finally run on a Celeron M system (32bit as well). Hence the -march and -mtune combination (see above). Quite some time ago, I already ran into this on a different system and reported this to bgo at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153781. Issue back then was, that I had security enhancements (PaX and the like) enabled. I don't have this now. Any ideas about what I might have to do to be able to build mono? I forgot to mount the proc filesystem into that chroot. So, to fix this problem, all I needed to do was mount -t proc ChrootProc /mnt/gentoo/proc Cheers, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: [...] mount -t proc ChrootProc /mnt/gentoo/proc [...] I thought this was the proper command to mount proc: mount -t proc proc /mnt/gentoo/proc What is the ChrootProc part? It doesn't matter if you write -t proc proc /mnt... or ChrootProc or FooBar. The source (proc, ChrootProc) is just symbolic name. To the system, it has no meaning whatsoever. It's just something for the user; and as I like to be able to easily differentiate between different things, I tend to chose names, which are differentiable. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?
Albert W. Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I apologize for the outage. We'll be back online next week and hopefully after that we'll have a better way of dealing with issues like this when they arise. So please have patience with us. As far as I'm concerned, it's fine that the site is down. No problem with that. What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that. I mean, it would have been nice, if there were some sort of I'll be back message, when users try to access http://packages.gentoo.org/. Or at least a message on the mailing list and more importantly, on the Gentoo homepage would have been good. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: packages.gentoo.org down?
· Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Friday 10 August 2007 18:01:09 Dan Cowsill wrote: Again, I apologize for the outage. We'll be back online next week and hopefully after that we'll have a better way of dealing with issues like this when they arise. So please have patience with us. As far as I'm concerned, it's fine that the site is down. No problem with that. What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that. [...] Maybe that means you should get your money back. Oh, wait... I definitely agree that the situation would have benefited from better communication. Of course it could. That's besides the point. No, it's not. It's exactly the point. The point is if you want immediate and professional reactions everytime something happens you should be paying someone to monitor things.. Monitor? As far as I understood it, the machine has been made inaccessible, no? If you expect volunteers to do the job you should cut them some slack when something goes wrong.. I do. That's why *I* wrote, that it is okay for me, that the site is down. I complained about the most important issue here - lack of communication. Alexander Skwar -- 'Mounten' wird für drei Dinge benutzt: 'Aufsitzen' auf Pferde, 'einklinken' von Festplatten in Dateisysteme, und, nun, 'besteigen' beim Sex. -- Christa Keil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: charset iso/utf
Philip Webb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 070810 Benno Schulenberg wrote: Philip Webb wrote: (I've just been reading LeCarré), Your email uses UTF-8, What do you mean ? You wrote: (I've just been reading LeCarré). Notice the letters é. This looks quite a lot like UTF-8 to me. In your header, you are saying, that you don't use UTF-8, though. but your mailer marked the message with charset=iso-8859-1. That is what I would expect Mutt to use. Why? Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org: dead?
Jarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I have problem on my side, Yes, you do. You seem to be unable to scroll back a few pages in this mailing list, to see that this question has been asked two times. or is that site really down? Yep. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] packages.gentoo.org down?
Hi! Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available? Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available? Port 80 closed, ping answers (RTT ~216ms). Tested from Argentina. Thx. So it's not just me. BTW: ping time: ~180ms, from Switzerland. VERY slow. Traceroute isn't helpful either: 17 nero-gw.Level3.net (63.211.200.246) 193.119 ms 202.437 ms 199.503 ms 18 corv-car1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.177) 216.742 ms 194.857 ms 190.510 ms and after that, no more replies :( Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cannot build mono: The contents of your 'monolite' directory may be out-of-date
unicode vim-syntax vorbis wifi win32codecs x86 xml xorg xv zlib ALSA_CARDS=loopback usb-audio via82xx ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard mouse synaptics KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LI NGUAS=de USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=fbdev vesa vga via | Unset: CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS ` I'm building/compiling all of that on a Athlon XP system (no 64bit). It should finally run on a Celeron M system (32bit as well). Hence the -march and -mtune combination (see above). Quite some time ago, I already ran into this on a different system and reported this to bgo at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153781. Issue back then was, that I had security enhancements (PaX and the like) enabled. I don't have this now. Any ideas about what I might have to do to be able to build mono? Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- Free markets select for winning solutions. -- Eric S. Raymond -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: is http://packages.gentoo.org/ off-line?
· Andrew Gaydenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Is it for me only? No, it's not. Please see the other thread, I started shortly :) before yours *g* BTW: It's still offline. Alexander Skwar -- Hey dol! merry dol! ring a dong dillo! Ring a dong! hop along! fal lal the willow! Tom Bom, jolly Tom, Tom Bombadillo! -- J. R. R. Tolkien -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: USB devices and CDs don't get mounted automatically anymore
I wrote: Since this morning, Gnome (?) doesn't mount USB sticks and CDs automatically anymore. How I hate that... I now have reinstalled udev, hal dbus with CONFIG_PROTECT=-*, and now automounting works again. Even in Gnome. Strange. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] USB devices and CDs don't get mounted automatically anymore
lcdm001 mtxorb n curses text LINGUAS=de USERLAND=GNU VIDEO_CARDS=dummy none nv nvidia vga | Unset: CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS ` Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: USB devices and CDs don't get mounted automatically anymore
I wrote: Since this morning, Gnome (?) doesn't mount USB sticks and CDs automatically anymore. I always used to be in the plugdev group and I still am a member of this group: ,[ output of id ] | uid=10001(askwar) gid=100(users) Gruppen=4(adm),10(wheel),16(cron),18(audio), | 19(cdrom),27(video),35(games),80(cdrw),85(usb),100(users),250(portage), | 443(plugdev) ` Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Stop net.eth0 from starting?
Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My question is, is there any way to stop net.eth0 from starting besides ethtool's preup function? If you never want net.eth0 to start, you could of course simply delete /etc/init.d/net.eth0. Another way to make net.eth0 NOT start is to modify /etc/conf.d/rc: ,[ /etc/conf.d/rc ] | # Some people want a finer grain over hotplug/coldplug. RC_PLUG_SERVICES is a | # list of services that are matched in order, either allowing or not. By | # default we allow services through as RC_COLDPLUG/RC_HOTPLUG has to be yes | # anyway. | # Example - RC_PLUG_SERVICES=net.wlan !net.* | # This allows net.wlan and any service not matching net.* to be plugged. | | RC_PLUG_SERVICES=!net.eth* ` That's what I do at home as well. Works very fine. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cannot compile texinfo: Illegal instruction - Wrong -march and -mtune flags?
Hello. I'm trying to compile sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5, which fails with this error message: $restore $backupdir/* `echo ./texinfo.info | sed 's|[^/]*$||'`; \ fi; \ rm -rf $backupdir; exit $rc /bin/sh: line 13: 9091 Illegal instruction ..//makeinfo/makeinfo -I . -o texinfo.info `test -f 'texinfo.txi' || echo './'`texinfo.txi make[2]: *** [texinfo.info] Error 132 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/work/texinfo-4.8/doc' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5/work/texinfo-4.8' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: sys-apps/texinfo-4.8-r5 failed. Call stack: ebuild.sh, line 1632: Called dyn_compile ebuild.sh, line 983: Called qa_call 'src_compile' ebuild.sh, line 44: Called src_compile texinfo-4.8-r5.ebuild, line 56: Called die Quite some time ago, I ran into the same problem and commented this in bgo at https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98951. The issue back then was: | Ok, I butchered your output a bit, but the fact is that you are using | -march=pentium4 on a AMD XP, which will not work ... I'm now trying to do something like this again. I'm trying to compile Gentoo on AMD XP for my Celeron M (Pentium4) machine. To do this, I have in make.conf: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium-m -mtune=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer Build machine is a Athlon XP system, target system shall be a Pentium M system. Why do I get the illegal instruction error? I thought that because of the -mtune=athlon-xp, the compiler would generate code which would work on athlon-xp machines and also on pentium-m machines, thanks to the -march flag. Or did I mix those two flags up? Should I use -march=athlon-xp -mtune=pentium-m instead? hetzner / # emerge --info Portage 2.1.2.11 (default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.5-r0, 2.6.21-gentoo-r4.04.non-hardened i686) = System uname: 2.6.21-gentoo-r4.04.non-hardened i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ Gentoo Base System release 1.12.9 Timestamp of tree: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 11:50:01 + dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.61 sys-devel/automake: 1.10 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.14 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.21 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i486-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium-m -mtune=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer CHOST=i486-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/gconf /etc/terminfo CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=pentium-m -mtune=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--alphabetical FEATURES=collision-protect distlocks metadata-transfer parallel-fetch sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/gentoo/ http://gentoo.mirror.solnet.ch http://distfiles.gentoo.org/; LINGUAS=de PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages --filter=H_**/files/digest-* PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.ch.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=X acpi alsa bash-completion berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread emboss encode esd evo fam firefox fortran gdbm gif gnome gstreamer gtk hal iconv isdnlog jpeg kde kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility libg++ libnotify mad midi mikmod mmx mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nfs nls nptl nptlonly offensive ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl png pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime readline reflection samba sdl session spell spl ssl svg tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode vim-syntax vorbis wifi win32codecs x86 xml xorg xv zlib ALSA_CARDS=loopback usb-audio via82xx ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=evdev keyboard mouse synaptics KERNEL=linux LCD_DEVICES=bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text LINGUAS=de USERLAND=GNU VID EO_CARDS=fbdev vesa vga via Unset: CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Thanks a lot, Alexander Skwar -- Can you MAIL a BEAN CAKE? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Cannot compile texinfo: Illegal instruction - Wrong -march and -mtune flags?
· Jan Seeger [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'd think that using -march overrides -mtune. You cannot at the same time tune for two architectures. Hm, what's an architecture? From my understanding, I'd need crossdev if I'd try to compile for, lets say, PA-RISC on a x86 system. But that's not what I'm trying to do - I'm trying to compile for x86 on a x86 system. Indeed, I think that I just have mixed up -march and -mtune (aka. -mcpu). The GCC 3.4.6 docs have it quite clear: ,[ http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.3.6/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html#i386-and-x86_002d64-Options ] | -mcpu=cpu-type | [...] | While picking a specific cpu-type will schedule things appropriately | for that particular chip, the compiler will not generate any code that | does not run on the i386 without the -march=cpu-type option being used. ` That's for -mcpu, which is, in 4.x, a deprecated synonym for -mtune. Well, I'll just give it a try. Alexander Skwar -- Another dream that failed. There's nothing sadder. -- Kirk, This side of Paradise, stardate 3417.3 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Cannot compile texinfo: Illegal instruction - Wrong -march and -mtune flags?
· Me, myself I: Indeed, I think that I just have mixed up -march and -mtune (aka. -mcpu). Seems like. I now have: CFLAGS=-O2 -mtune=pentium-m -march=athlon-xp -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and with this CFLAGS, I am able to compile texinfo. Alexander Skwar -- Q: What does it say on the bottom of Coke cans in North Dakota? A: Open other end. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Cannot compile texinfo: Illegal instruction - Wrong -march and -mtune flags?
· Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You see, they are not compatible and even if some code works I wouldn't bet multimedia apps will perform well. With -mtune the instruction set stays the same. It is just rearranged. Hm. Allright. When using just -mtune (ie. without -march), the docs at http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.1.2/gcc/i386-and-x86_002d64-Options.html say: | While picking a specific cpu-type will schedule things appropriately | for that particular chip, the compiler will not generate any code that | does not run on the i386 without the -march=cpu-type option being used. If -mtune=athlon-xp is used, code is generated which may make use of 3dNOW!. 3dNOW! is, of course, not to be found on 386 :) If the instruction set stays the same, code generated with -mtune=athlon-xp would not be executable on 386 machines, if I understand you correctly. Hm. With -mtune, the set of available instructions (ie. stuff like 3dNOW!, I suppose?) is NOT changed from the default of i386, is it? Or what does Tune to cpu-type everything applicable about the generated code, except for the ABI and the set of available instructions. mean - especially note the except for [...] the set of available instructions part. So with -mtune=pentium-m -march=athlon-xp I'm making the compiler generate code which is ordered the way it's best for pentium-m machines while allowing it to use athlon-xp instruction set? Is that what I'm doing? If so, then it seems you're right - code will run, but maybe not so well. Is that understanding correct? If so, then I really should think twice about using -mtune=pentium-m -march=athlon-xp, shouldn't I? Curious, Alexander Skwar -- No matter how many resources you have, it is never enough. -- Murphy's Computer Laws n�1 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gcc 4.2 and Core 2 Duo
Kenneth Prugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah I wasn't exactly positive if it did pull everything in, and specifying specifically can't really hurt at all as long as you know it's supported with your cpu. Doesn't the doc say, that it actually CAN hurt, as it forces the use of certain instructions, even if they would not be used automatically? Because of that, I'd refrain from using stuff like -msse for each and every package. There might be the odd package out there, where something like this would help. Conclusion: I'd use: CFLAGS=-Os -march=native Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] -Os = Nono? (was: gcc 4.2 and Core 2 Duo)
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And then Os. That is a big nono. Why's that? Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mail client usage? (was: XSESSION=Xsession doesn't work!)
Elias Probst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Dienstag, 17. Juli 2007 23:01:12 schrieb Stroller: Hi there, I'm fairly experienced with Linux and have been using Gentoo for over 3 years, ... Probably, you're not that fairly experienced regarding the usage of your mail client. ;-) I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post to the list and one post has shown up. At least that's how it looks like over here on the GMane side of things. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Multiple Messages (was: XSESSION=Xsession doesn't work!)
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:16:06 -0500, Dale wrote: Well, I don't know about yours but mine says they were all sent at the same exact time. So why are they arriving at different times? Are we sure this is him and not something else? More importantly, they all have the same Message-ID. Ah, that's why I don't see the messages multiple times. I'm using Gmane and access it with a Usenet newsreader. In Usenet, it's not possible for multiple articles to have the same Message-ID. Anyway, I think it would be proper to say that this barf up was probably not caused by something the OP has done. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail client usage?
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb: Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs: Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar: I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post to the list and one post has shown up. At least that's how it looks like over here on the GMane side of things. I received it multiple times, too. New ones still arriving :-( Hm. Even when I use the mailinglist (ie. not the Gmane interface), I see his message only once. Strange. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Mail client usage?
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirk Heinrichs schrieb: Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Dirk Heinrichs: Am Mittwoch, 18. Juli 2007 schrieb ext Alexander Skwar: I'm curious - what makes you say that? Stroller sent one post to the list and one post has shown up. At least that's how it looks like over here on the GMane side of things. I received it multiple times, too. New ones still arriving :-( Hm. Even when I use the mailinglist (ie. not the Gmane interface), I see his message only once. Strange. Nevermind. I just remembered, that I have my system setup so, that it discards dupes. Sorry. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT vm WinXp] Can WinXp be Vm app from gentoo?
· [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: How can I go about running a VM on gentoo that runs win XP pro? I don't understand the question. You install VMware. You start VMware. In VMware, you install WinXP. I do have a couple of WinXP pro licenses but hoped there might be a ready made VMappliance I can just download and fireup. Download Windows XP? Do you actually assume, that somebody will now post a link to some Warez site, or what? Alexander Skwar -- After a flawless demonstration, you will trip on your way back to your seat -- Murphy's Laws of Martial Arts n�7 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: problem emerging gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1 - SOLVED
Stefán István [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I think that maybe it is a bug in the portage. This package (gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1) should be dependent from automake-1.9.6-r2. If you think so, go to bugzilla and check, if that issue has been filed already. If not, go ahead and create a bug entry. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: problem emerging gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.16.3-r1
Stefán István [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What should I do to avoid this problem? Posting the command that caused the error would be a good start ;) Copy the 10 or so lines before the make aborted and send them to this list. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
· Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant Hi Grant, I think Gentoo is 'healthy', in the sense that it continues to thrive. On the other hand I have, over the last 6-9 months started to think of Gentoo as 'mature'. The distro has apparently become what it is going to be. While that may not be all I hoped for it is clearly worth while and a contributing member of the group of Linux distros so that's great. As a non-developer, general work-a-day Linux user I do feel that Gentoo has lost some of its energy. Maybe that's all part of becoming a mature distro. When I first started with Gentoo in (I think 2000) this was a very lively place and it was clear that there was a real push on to grow the tools, grow the distro, grow the user base. While I think that today those metrics would still be considered valuable, it is not my view that there is a lot of energy being put into taking things to the next level. (Whatever the heck that might be!) Anyway, I value Gentoo greatly. It's been a really great distro to me. Folks have treated a non-IT Linux dummy like me with great respect and for the most part a pretty gentle hand. I've learned a lot when I wanted to. The documentation, in my mind, is second to none which makes my life easier. (Sometimes) What's in Gentoo's future? I haven't a clue. I have wondered a few times in the last year if I'd have to look for another distro one of these days.but I never have. Two to three years ago that thought never entered my mind. Hey Mark, Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other meta-distro out there? No, Debian is no meta-distro. It's a distribution just like Fedora Core or Mandriva. The only thing that sets Debian apart is, that it's a truely non-commercial distribution and that it is quite big. Another Debian specialty is, that it has a mission, so to speak. It's not exactly thriving is it? Is the meta-distro concept perhaps flawed? No, I don't think so. It's just not something which is completely main stream compatible. And I don't think that this is bad ;) The thought of installing the latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated makes me wanna throw up. Yep. Alexander Skwar -- Your step will soil many countries. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Off-site data backup
Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have any thoughts on this, please? I'm using (or shortly will, if you check the mailinglists) DAR to do backups. DAR also supports on-the-fly encryption using blowfish. I also had a look at duplicity, but I did not really like it. Can't expand on that more, though. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with open source driver Devolo dLAN USB
Florian Philipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.6.17-r2 is the latest stable version and is installed... Hm. Maybe you need to compile the kernel first? Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: print to pdf
Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I have found the solution of my problem: emerge --unmerge ghostscript-gpl emerge ghostscript-esp That solves my problem. Nice to hear, that it's working for you. Me, I've got no problems with ghostscript-gpl, though. Alexander Skwar Article__463__Merger_of_ESP_Ghostscript_8_15_4_and_GPL_Ghostscript_8_57_is_on_its_way_-_Common_UNIX_Printing_System.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document
[gentoo-user] Re: print to pdf
Urs Schuetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try to use the ghostpdf.ppd printer description with your cups-pdf printer to get the options to embed the fonts. Hm, why are you using this ppd file with cups-pdf? It doesn't belong to cups-pdf (at least not to 2.4.6). When I installed the cups-pdf printer, I used the PPD file that was supplied with it; ie. /usr/share/cups/model/PostscriptColor.ppd. And this works pretty fine. Cheersm Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: /boot without space.
Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here I just have ~7Mb. Inside /boot/grub I have much less than 1Mb. Since the boot partition has 40Mb, why does my system say that is full if I only see less than 8Mb? tux grub # df -h | grep boot /dev/hdc1 40M 40M 0 100% /boot Don't use ext3 for /boot - there's just no need for a journal on /boot, as you'll VERY rarely write to it. For boot, the journal is just a waste - a waste of 32m, to be exact. Combined with your ~7Mb, this gives 40m. Cheers, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: /boot without space.
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use ext3 for /boot - there's just no need for a journal on /boot, as you'll VERY rarely write to it. For boot, the journal is just a waste - a waste of 32m, to be exact. Combined with your ~7Mb, this gives 40m. I was wrong. ext3 does not use 32m for journal on such a small filesystem. Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Knode missing from Kontact
Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 20 June 2007 18:23, Alexander Skwar wrote: Patrick Holthaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you install knode? *LOL* Yeah, first try to catch the low hanging fruits, right? :) Yes, I DO have Knode installed *g* Next low hanging fruit: Yep, that's all right ;) Settings/Configure Kontact/Select Components (at the bottom) and tick News. Ah, good catch! That was it. Thanks a lot. Have a nice day, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Knode missing from Kontact
Hello. Yesterday, I started Kontact on Mandriva. On Mandriva, Knode was displayed in Kontact, alongside the other kdepim applications (like akgregator, kmail, ...). When I start Kontact on Gentoo, Knode (or Usenet) is not one of the available components. Do you guys see that as well? Thanks, Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Knode missing from Kontact
Patrick Holthaus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Yesterday, I started Kontact on Mandriva. On Mandriva, Knode was displayed in Kontact, alongside the other kdepim applications (like akgregator, kmail, ...). When I start Kontact on Gentoo, Knode (or Usenet) is not one of the available components. Did you install knode? *LOL* Yeah, first try to catch the low hanging fruits, right? :) Yes, I DO have Knode installed *g* Alexander Skwar -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
