Re: [gentoo-user] Auto-backup tool?
Use a cron job to run it periodically. For email, use a cron job that emails it. On Sunday 03 December 2006 16:18, Jerônimo Backes wrote: rdiff-backup. I've been using it for a couple of years and it does just what you need. it also keeps old versions so you can roll back in the event of a mistake. Man, that's almost what I need. Is there a way to make this script execute automatically after some time interval? And for the activity of packing and mailing recent changed documents, is there a tool that could do this automagically? You could use find to generate a list of files changed n the last two hours, pass this list to tar - it has an option to accept a list of files to archive on stdin - and then mail this to your backup account. Ok, I can make a script doing that. But what can I use to send the file to my e-mail adresses? And what to do to make that script run periodically? Thanks a lot for your help. Jerônimo. ___ O Yahoo! est� de cara nova. Venha conferir! http://br.yahoo.com -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems getting started with vmware
It is free however, you still need a license number. Go to their site and get one. On Monday November 13 2006 23:00, Walter Dnes wrote: I had almost no problems doing a stage 1 Gentoo install, so I can RTFM, providing that TFM is half-decently written. vmware's manual is not very helpful. snip Looking at the console, I get the impression that I'm supposed to connect to a running vmware host. Acting on a wild hunch, I dug through /etc/init.d/ and noticed vmware. So I tried the obvious... /etc/init.d/vmware start. I got a couple of messages about needing to emerge vmware-modules, and running the config utility. I did both. The config utility asks for a 20-digit-serial-number. Huh, I though this was free? When I cancel, it says that I can't power on a VM until I enter a licence number, but the server does appear to start. When I start vmware-server-console in an xterm, I get the following message... -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Basic Vmware setup
Workstation allows you to create snapshots of a setup and then create clones from it so you can make a base system, then do branches off of it as you add to it. For example, you can create a base Gentoo install and snapshot it. Then you can clone it and install some software - say to make a DAW. You can snapshot that and continue adding software to it or clone it. The workstations use differential methods to create the clones so storage space isn't as great as storing an the vm and it's files. Server you can't do snapshots so you create a VM, save it, copy it, then modify it. However, server does allow you to start the VMs as a service and keep them running when you are not logged in - with workstation you have to start them after you login. In short they each do different things and what you use depends on the situation. At work I use workstation so I can do snapshots since I am testing setups and I want to have a base to go back to and start over from. However, I have to start the service each time I login in so others can get to the VMs. For someone who doesn't need snapshotting you can just copy VMs and add to them as long as you have th file space. On Sunday November 12 2006 07:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: server: Can create or edit existing configurations. Can leave a virtual machine running in the background if you close the console Is there a catch somewhere with `server'. Buy the description it appears to do everthing the `workstation' does, yet is free (beer). -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub problems
I can't remember - is grub trying to boot off the RAID? I found grub couldn't handle my SCSI RAID and when I checked it was a known issue? On Sunday October 29 2006 21:14, David Relson wrote: On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 21:02:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Jeff Cranmer wrote: The Bios drive order appears to be correct. The 250MD SATA drive is top of the hard drive order list, and I'm stumped. Jeff Perhaps simplifying the environment might help diagnose the problem. Have you considered disconnecting all drives except the boot drive ... ??? -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how thorough is #emerge --sync?
Are newer versions masked for some reason? When a sync is done it gets all the mirror has. On Tuesday October 17 2006 23:37, maxim wexler wrote: Hello group, I recently sync'ed portage, but when I did #emerge digg2ogg it installed version 0.8 which is way out of date. I thought sync was supposed to prime portage to get the latest versions of software when needed. Here's the sync line in make.conf. SYNC=rsync://rsync.namerica.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage Perhaps I should be adding more? Replace with something else? -Maxim __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about conditionals and bash scripting
Surround the [ and ] with spaces. On Thursday October 12 2006 17:08, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 13:49 -0700, Richard Broersma Jr wrote: I have a short script: #!/bin/bash while read LINE do whois $LINE | grep 'abuse' /dev/null if $? != 0; then echo $LINE noabuse.txt fi done iplist I'm getting command not found on the if line. Have I not formatted it correctly? The script is supposed to append $LINE to a file if the return code of whois $LINE | grep 'abuse' returns false (not 0)... Do you need to add if test... or if [ ... ]? Regards, Richard Broersma Jr. OK. Here's my new code: #!/bin/bash while read LINE do whois $LINE | grep 'abuse' /dev/null if [$? -ne 0]; then echo $LINE noabuse.txt fi done iplist Here's the output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/.maildir/.SPAM/cur $ ./process.sh ./process.sh: line 6: [1: command not found ./process.sh: line 6: [1: command not found ./process.sh: line 6: [1: command not found Interrupted by signal 2... -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Postgresql ODBC and JDBC in Gentoo
Thank you. I'll see if I can get that going. I finally got ODBC working and make some notes here for others who may search in the future. I simply updated the /etc/unixODBC in files per the specs on the unixODBC site - although another part of their site says postgres doesn't use these ini files! I also found that Gentoo does not have an ODBCConfig - it makes it gODBCConfig and you have to enable the gnome flag for it to be built. I'll see if I can get JDBC working now. Thanks. On Saturday September 16 2006 02:38, Mark Kirkwood wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I've installed postgres and am trying to get it to work with OpenOffice 2.0.3. After searching the web, postgres sites, unixODBC site, etc. I still haven't figured out how to get ODBC and JDBC to see postgres. How do I setup ODBC and JDBC so that my postgres databases are available? Any docs, hints, etc. would be appreciated. I'm not sure about ODBC, but for JDBC the general instructions are: 1/ ensure that the CLASSPATH includes the driver jar (e.g. CLASSPATH=.:/usr/local/pgsql/share/postgresql.jar) 2/ Check that postgres server has listen_address='*' in its configuration file (postgresql.conf) 3/ Set the connection url for the database you want (e.g. jdbc:postgresql://localhost:5432/postgres to connect to a server using port 5432 and a database called postgres) Presumably openoffice lets you tell it 1/ and 3/, its up to you to make sure of 2/ ! Cheers Mark -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Postgresql ODBC and JDBC in Gentoo
I've installed postgres and am trying to get it to work with OpenOffice 2.0.3. After searching the web, postgres sites, unixODBC site, etc. I still haven't figured out how to get ODBC and JDBC to see postgres. How do I setup ODBC and JDBC so that my postgres databases are available? Any docs, hints, etc. would be appreciated. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Flashing the BIOS
Most BIOS programs save the existing BIOS so they need somewhere to write to. On Tuesday September 12 2006 22:52, Grant wrote: How do you guys flash your BIOS to a new version? Are you all digging up floppy drives? - Grant no I turn my swap-partition into a dos-partition, but all the bios stuff onto it, boot from a freedos cd and flash the bios/firmware. If I touch a floppy drive, it dies. And flashing with a freedos cd works very well. Would it work to burn a bootable CD with the BIOS files on it and flash that way? If anyone could get me specific information on this I'd really appreciate it. My motherboard needs the latest BIOS to run my new Tualatin Celeron processor, and I know if I screw up the BIOS I screw up the system. - Grant -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT Bookeeping recommendations
What software does anyone use for bookeeping under Linux. I do some consulting and need to be able to track income, expenses, and do invoices and payments. I don't need anything fancy. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT Bookeeping recommendations
Thanks to both. I've been checking some out tonight. On Tuesday September 5 2006 22:51, Zac Slade wrote: On Tuesday 05 September 2006 20:24, Stephen Liu wrote: Hi Brett, What software does anyone use for bookeeping under Linux. I do some consulting and need to be able to track income, expenses, and do invoices and payments. I don't need anything fancy. Maybe GnuCash http://www.gnucash.org/ GnuCash is very good. Also you should investigate KMyMoney. Both programs are capable. GnuCash has been around longer, but they lack some features now due to spending the last two years porting to GTK2. Good luck, -- Zac Slade [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:1415282 YM:krakrjak AIM:ttyp99 -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.provided
Check out /etc/make.conf - that will override some settings. You aren't supposed to mess with the make.profile - it's a defalt that all else is based on. On Sunday July 16 2006 21:22, Jeremy Olexa wrote: Hi, Is there any other solution to the /etc/make.profile/package.provided file? As we all know the /usr/portage/ dir gets wiped of custom files on every sync. It seems kinda silly that there is a package.provided solution but it gets wiped every time, so is there any other way to accomplish the same thing on a more permanent term that I am not aware of? The portage man page does not suggest anything else. Thanks. -- Jeremy Olexa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Office: EE/CS 1-201 CS/IT Systems Staff University of Minnesota -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xfce config
It also stores things in ~/.config directory. On Sunday June 25 2006 10:42, Jeremy Olexa wrote: Tamas Sarga wrote: Hi, Where xfce stores the user settings? One of my users can use xfce without any problems, but the other... When any application starts, xfwm segfaults. I deleted ~/.config/xfce4, but this doesn't help. What can I do? TIA. Tamas Sarga Sounds weird that configs would cause a segfault, but check here: /etc/xdg/xfce4/ You could also use this to help you: find / | grep -i xfce (as root) which is what I did to find the above. HTH -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting BC not to truncate at the decimal point?
You're welcome. Don't feel bad - it took me a This thing can't be that dumb and a man page read to find out it was smarter than I thought G. On Wednesday May 24 2006 17:15, Mike Huber wrote: duh, sorry, case of me not fully reading the manpage. I'll be sure and fully read before I send to the list. Thanks a lot, --Mike On 5/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try scale=n Where n is the number of digits after the decimal? More in man bc. From: Mike Huber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2006/05/24 Wed PM 12:48:29 EDT To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Getting BC not to truncate at the decimal point? Hi, I'm just trying to do some quick calculations using bc, but the version installed through portage truncates on multiplication/division. It didn't used to do this 2 years ago when I was taking number theory, and there are no USE flags available for sys-devel/bc to change this. From the manpage: - The most basic element in bc is the number. Numbers are arbitrary precision numbers. This precision is both in the integer part and the fractional part. All numbers are represented internally in decimal and all computation is done in decimal. (This version truncates results from divide and multiply operations.) There are two attributes of numbers, the length and the scale. The length is the total number of significant decimal digits in a number and the scale is the total number of decimal digits after the decimal point. For example: .01 has a length of 6 and scale of 6. 1935.000 has a length of 7 and a scale of 3. --- - Anyone have any ideas? --Mike -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] modprobe looks in wrong dir
Did you remake the modules when you installed the kernel? Some such as nvidia, alsa require you rerun their installation process. On Sunday April 30 2006 14:18, maxim wexler wrote: Hi group, This should be an easy fix -- if you already know! The reason many of my modules are not loading is because modprobe is looking in /lib/modules/2.6.12-r6 and not /lib/modules/2.6.16-r3 which was filled when I ran make modules_install. The link to the newer kernel is OK. Yes, I ran modules-update. Also, module loading and unloading options are set=y in kernel. Not a clue as to why some modules load, sound, usb; and some, firewire, ppp, forcedeth don't. dmesg is filled with lines like: Unknown symbol ...disagrees about version of symbol ... At the end of the boot console it says: /usr/sbin/pppd/: Couldn't stat /dev/ttyS0: Too many levels of symbolic links. But according to emerge -pv udev I have the latest ver. Which I set up according to the gentoo udev-guide. Attempts to specify the proper dir to modprobe result in no-such-file errors. -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
You've been hanging around Windows users too much G. Linux normally doesn't require a reboot. Sometimes you have to restart the deamons with the /etc/init.d/whatever restart. On Friday April 28 2006 20:42, Kevin wrote: Hi All- I've read the portage documentation at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml?catid=gentoo and I've searched and browsed the gentoo-user mailing list archive, but I have a question that I don't see answered anywhere. It seems to me that it must be true that sometimes, after a system upgrade done with: emerge -uD system or emerge -uD world I must reboot the computer for the changes to take effect. I could be wrong on this, but it seems reasonable to me to think that I should reboot in certain circumstances. Perhaps after an upgrade to the snip -Kevin -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] When to reboot after updates to the system
You need to run etc-update (or one of it's cousins) if you are told files need updating. After that run the /etc/init.d/sshd restart. On Friday April 28 2006 20:55, Kevin wrote: On a related note, what is the most correct procedure for restarting a service after an update to a service (say named or cyrus-imapd or apache or sshd)? I've been doing something like this: # emerge -v openssh examine config file differences and make any adjustments that are required to be done by hand. # /etc/init.d/sshd stop # mv -i /etc/init.d/._cfg_sshd /etc/init.d/sshd # /etc/init.d/sshd start But I've noticed that there are cases when this general procedure doesn't work. Perhaps because binaries change location between package versions and the old /etc/init.d/service script presumes the old package binary location and the new package has already been installed so the new binaries are no longer with the old startup script thinks they are. In those cases, I usually find the service with ps and kill it by hand, then zap the service and start it again, using the new start script, but maybe there's a better way. Seems to me that it might be better to do something like this: -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hotpluggable SATA question...
I don't know - I figured hotplug would be logical. I'm in the process of replacing a SCSI system with SATA and haven't got there yet. On Friday April 21 2006 17:14, Sieb, Glenn E (Glenn) wrote: Brett, Will the hotplug package work on these drives? Hmm. (checks) Well, it appears to be installed. # equery list hotplug [ Searching for package 'hotplug' in all categories among: ] * installed packages [I--] [ ] sys-apps/hotplug-20040923-r1 (0) [I--] [ ] sys-apps/hotplug-base-20040401 (0) Further checking: There's a scsi.agent in /etc/hotplug/ So now I've tried: hotplug scsi add sdb (which sounded like the right thing to do after looking at /etc/hotplug/scsi.agent) Doing that command didn't give any feedback. dmesg hasn't changed... heck doing hotplug scsi blah didn't give any feedback either. Thanks for the reply :) I'm hoping I can do this. Best, --Glenn -- Glenn E. Sieb, MTS Bell Laboratories [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1 732 949 5453 -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about net.eth0 and the handbook [partially solved]
If you look at the script it uses the .ethx part to figure out what to start. On Wednesday April 19 2006 17:00, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 22:50 +0200, Maxime Robert-Schreyers wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: The guy I'm helping to install Gentoo says that he can get to his Linux installation and log in, but that he has no network unless he boots with the LiveCD. I've tried every trick I know. At this point he's booted with the LiveCD and entered his chroot install environment. Out of desperation for some way to find what the problem is, I asked him to take a look at ifconfig. According to what he told me, eth1 has an IP address, but there's no mention of eth0. In the past he's told me that the PC he's installing Gentoo on has a wired NIC and a wireless NIC. I assume this is why his network card is assigned eth1, and that the wireless card is eth0 and the LiveCD doesn't support it. The handbook says that if multiple network interfaces exist, one can create symlinks to /etc/init.d/net.eth0 for each successive network interface. My question is if I tell him to rc-update add net.eth1 default and then to symlink /etc/init.d/net.eth1 to /etc/init.d/net.eth0, when he reboots, won't Gentoo just try to start /etc/init.d/net.eth0, which won't work at this point? What should I do? I've told him what the handbook says, but I'm not sure that it will work. Hi mike, It should be the other way around: first the symlink, then rc-update otherwise rc-update won't find the /etc/init.d/net.eth1script when it will attempt to add it to the default runlevel. Also, is the IP asignment properly set up ? (DHCP, static IP ?) Good luck, Maxime We did it in the correct order. He's rebooted into Linux (sans LiveCD) and says he has network. I'd still like to know how if /etc/init.d/net.eth1 is pointing to /etc/init.d/net.eth0, how does Linux know to start eth1 instead of eth0? -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Question about net.eth0 and the handbook [partially solved]
Sorry, I wrote that too fast. I did not mean that you should look at it! A better wording would have been that the script looks at the name and uses the .ethx part to figure out what to do. On Wednesday April 19 2006 20:34, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 19:59 -0400, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: If you look at the script it uses the .ethx part to figure out what to start. The script made no sense to me. I'm not that good at shell scripting anyway. On Wednesday April 19 2006 17:00, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 22:50 +0200, Maxime Robert-Schreyers wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: The guy I'm helping to install Gentoo says that he can get to his Linux installation and log in, but that he has no network unless he -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: modules built post kernel install (on the fly)
Builtin means it's built into the kernel - the * indicates that. On Saturday March 4 2006 23:03, Harry Putnam wrote: Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is correct. Unless you alter bzImage, modprobe newmodule should work just fine. If your new module is built in, you will need to reload the kernel (reboot). Ok, this is confusing to me... What do you mean by `built in'. I'm thinking the very nature of a module is that it isn't built in. Or do you just mean I'd chose `*' instead of `m' and move bzImage into place in /boot? -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Teaching Linux to remember USB
Check out udev and set them up in the /etc/udev local file. The Gentoo site has docs on udev with links to some good references. On Sunday February 26 2006 15:12, daniel wrote: I have a number of USB devices. Card Reader, Flash drive, iPod, Camera etc. But every time I plug in my CF reader My machine assigns a different id to it. Sometimes it's /dev/sdb sometimes its /dev/sdg etc. It seems to be based on the order in which I plug the devices in, or maybe the port used, or both, I'm not sure. What I'd like to know is how to plug it in and have it always get the same id. Is this even possible? I just want my normal user to always be able to mount my flash drive without having to su to root to edit fstab first. Auto mounting would be cool as well but isn't necessary. I'm just trying to avoid hassle. Ideas? Suggestions? -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system boot
First copy the new kernel to /boot (make sure /boot is mounted) with a new name like test or something Then copy this part to the end of lilo.conf. image = /boot/bzImage root = /dev/hda7 label = Gentoo read-only # read-only for checking and change these: image=name of your new kernel (say Test) label=Test Then save and exit. Run lilo - t and it will tell you if everything is okay. If not fix it, then when all is well run lilo. Then reboot and you can test your new kernel. Also man lilo and man lilo.conf will help. On Sunday February 26 2006 18:51, Pete wrote: Someone has given me a system to configure their printer on it. yababa root # uname -a The boot menu says it is LILO, so I went to /etc/lilo.conf This is how it looks # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-apps/lilo/files/lilo.conf,v 1.3 2002/09/30 00:55:18 woodchip Exp $ # Author: Ultanium # Linux bootable partition config begins image = /boot/bzImage root = /dev/hda7 label = Gentoo read-only # read-only for checking image = /boot/bzImage.OLD root = /dev/hda7 label = Gentoo_Old read-only # read-only for checking image = /boot/bzImageAR root = /dev/hda7 label = Gentoo_new read-only # read-only for checking # # Linux bootable partition config ends I added the section --- image = /boot/bzImageAR root = /dev/hda7 label = Gentoo_new read-only # read-only for checking --- This is what I don't understand -- yababa root # ls -l /boot/ total 1272 -rw-r--r--1 root root 483904 Feb 26 04:56 System.map-2.4.19r10AR lrwxrwxrwx1 root root1 Jan 12 2003 boot - . -rw-r--r--1 root root 814688 Feb 26 04:40 bzImageAR yababa root # - boot points to itself. Before I copied the System.map-2.4.19r10AR and bzImageAR, there was nothing in there. How does the system boot? ? ? Of course if I run /sbin/lilo, the system complains yababa root # /sbin/lilo Fatal: open /boot/bzImage: No such file or directory yababa root # Any pointers will be greatly appreciated ! Regards Pete -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where do these use flags come from?
They come from /etc/make.conf or /etc/portage/package.use. The profile you are using has defaults set. On Sunday February 26 2006 21:00, Bo Andresen wrote: I decided I wanted to remove the ipv6 use flag which I have had enabled in make.conf for quite a while but never really been on a ipv6 network and don't suspect I will in the near future. When upgrading firefox I noted it has that use flag and decided I want to know what it actually does. Only, I cannot find it anywhere in the ebuilds! So where does it come from and what *exactly* does it do? ~ # emerge -uvp mozilla-firefox These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1-r2 [1.5.0.1-r1] USE=java mozdevelop xprint -debug -gnome -ipv6* -xinerama 33 kB Total size of downloads: 33 kB ~ # grep USE /usr/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox/*.ebuild /usr/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-1.0.7-r4.ebuild:IUS E=gnome java mozdevelop mozsvg mozcalendar /usr/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-1.5-r11.ebuild:IUSE =java mozdevelop /usr/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-1.5-r9.ebuild:IUSE= java mozdevelop /usr/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1-r2.ebuild:I USE=java mozdevelop ~ # grep ipv6 /usr/portage/www-client/mozilla-firefox/*.ebuild ~ # ~ # equery u mozilla-firefox [ Searching for packages matching mozilla-firefox... ] [ Colour Code : set unset ] [ Legend: Left column (U) - USE flags from make.conf ] [ : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ] [ Found these USE variables for www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5.0.1-r1 ] U I - - debug : Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. Effects vary across packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. Remember to set FEATURES=nostrip too - - gnome : Adds GNOME support - + ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6 + + java : Adds support for Java + + mozdevelop : Enable features for web developers (e.g. Venkman) - - xinerama : Add support for the xinerama X11 extension, which allows you to stretch your display across multiple monitors + + xprint : Support for xprint, http://www.mozilla.org/projects/xprint/ -- Bo Andresen -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where do these use flags come from?
If you look at the ebuild there is an IUSE entry. You can also use equery uses package name to see what it uses. On Sunday February 26 2006 21:40, Ryan Tandy wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: They come from /etc/make.conf or /etc/portage/package.use. The profile you are using has defaults set. On Sunday February 26 2006 21:00, Bo Andresen wrote: I decided I wanted to remove the ipv6 use flag which I have had enabled snip -- Bo Andresen I think what the OP is asking, is where the usability of the flags is specified in the Firefox ebuild(s) - which it quite clearly isn't. If this is the case, I think the ipv6 USE-flag is added by an inherited eclass (assuming they can do that) - probably one of the mozilla ones. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Where do these use flags come from?
Evidently I didn't understand what you were asking the first time - sorry it didn't meet your needs. I learned something, too - that the eclasses can pass their flags on. On Sunday February 26 2006 22:03, Bo Andresen wrote: On Monday 27 February 2006 03:49, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: If you look at the ebuild there is an IUSE entry. You can also use equery uses package name to see what it uses. Perhaps you should read the original post a little more carefully... ;) As you'll see I do not ask where the use flag is set rather I ask where it comes from. Secondly it is not in the IUSE of entry of that ebuild rather it is in the IUSE of one of the eclasses that the ebuild inherits from (I had no idea it could inherit use flags too). And thirdly I actually do use equery uses in the original post... BTW stop top-posting, please. :) -- Bo Andresen -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
What kind of motherboard do you have? I have two older boards that it just doesn't work on. I have a Tyan Tiger MPX and an ASUS A7M266-D. On both I can install the OS by booting from the LiveCD on one system and using XP Pro on the other system. The drives are seen and the install goes well. However, when I reboot and try and start the OS there is no drive. In the BIOS I see no entries for the drives or Syba. I see no messages during boot up from the card either. Any tricks to get it working? On Monday January 9 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote: I just bought this sata controller: SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings. CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y Good luck. Bill Roberts On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan , Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) and am looking at going with SATA. Some input from the those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated. 1. SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you found to work? Is Promise any good? What are some good brands 2. Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores. Thank you. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboards
That's interesting. On Saturday February 25 2006 01:55, Jarry wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thanks. I believe Tom's Hardware liked ASRock, too. I'll add them to my list. I need to purchase a motherboard that supports SATA and am looking for recommendations. I used to use ASUS but their support is non-existent AFAIK, ASRock is nothing else, then just daughter-company of ASUS, and its primary business-area are low-end (cheap) products which ASUS did not want to sell under name ASUS. But I do not say they it is a bad choice, personally I have ASUS mobo in my workstation and ASRock in one small server. And I'd say ASUS/ASRock support is the same... Jarry -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboards
Sounds like Asus took all the people who knew what they were doing and understood customer service and exiled them to ASRock G. That way the good ones don't contaminate Asus! On Saturday February 25 2006 07:35, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Saturday 25 February 2006 07:55, Jarry wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thanks. I believe Tom's Hardware liked ASRock, too. I'll add them to my list. AFAIK, ASRock is nothing else, then just daughter-company of ASUS, and its primary business-area are low-end (cheap) products which ASUS did not want to sell under name ASUS. But I do not say they it is a bad choice, yes, Asrock is a daughter, in their 'how to build a computer' video, they even use Asus graphic cards, BUT: their support is better. They regularly release updated bios', and when I had a problem with my elderly scsi controller, I got an answer in less than 36h, which totally solved the problem. They officially don't support linux, but when some people had problems with the K7S8X and some knoppix versions, they released a bios, that fixed the problem in a few days. So they are good guys in my book ;) -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Motherboards
I need to purchase a motherboard that supports SATA and am looking for recommendations. I used to use ASUS but their support is non-existent and totally stupid. Unfortunately this will be for a Windows system but I'd like feedback on what is good and bad. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Motherboards
I have a Tyan Tiger and love it. However, it may be out of my price range at this time but they are first on my list, too! On Friday February 24 2006 20:50, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Friday 24 February 2006 19:27, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] Motherboards': I need to purchase a motherboard that supports SATA and am looking for recommendations. I used to use ASUS but their support is non-existent and totally stupid. Unfortunately this will be for a Windows system but I'd like feedback on what is good and bad. I like my Tyan dual-opteron, dual-16x-pci-e, dual-gb-ethernet board. Four sata ports, and firmware raid (nvraid). Even if you don't want or need all that, I still recommend Tyan. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboards
Thanks. I believe Tom's Hardware liked ASRock, too. I'll add them to my list. On Friday February 24 2006 21:02, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Saturday 25 February 2006 02:27, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I need to purchase a motherboard that supports SATA and am looking for recommendations. I used to use ASUS but their support is non-existent and totally stupid. Unfortunately this will be for a Windows system but I'd like feedback on what is good and bad. well, I like my Asrock DualSata2 - but I don't use Sata, so I can't say anything about the sata support. It should work. but no guarantees. But on the other hand, it has agppcie, onboard soundnetwork works and their support is better than the asus one ;) Oh, and it is passive cooled and has a socket upgrade slot. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Hardware issues, probably overheating, help?
It is a program provided by the motherboard manufacturer that monitors the status of the board. In this case it was an ASUS board on a windows system and their program is asusprobe. Linux uses lm-sensors if I remember correctly. On Sunday February 19 2006 14:54, Mick wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: And he may have a good quality one but it's dying. I had to replace a PC Power and Cooling recently. After 5 years one of the voltages was dropping low. I finally caught it because on an alert by the motherboard monitor which gave me an alarm. That system was doing the same - lock up or quit for unexplained reasons. motherboard monitor? Is that an application? -- Regards, Mick -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably overheating, help?
And he may have a good quality one but it's dying. I had to replace a PC Power and Cooling recently. After 5 years one of the voltages was dropping low. I finally caught it because on an alert by the motherboard monitor which gave me an alarm. That system was doing the same - lock up or quit for unexplained reasons. On Friday February 17 2006 10:43, Michael Kintzios wrote: -Original Message- From: Mrugesh Karnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 February 2006 11:13 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably Snip The second and third I've tried. Fourth... Hmm, I'll try to do that. And yeah, the power cord is plugged in perfectly, I just checked. As already suggested the possibility of overheating can be ruled out if you use a domestic comfort cooling fan and with the case open you position it to blow across the MOBO and towards the back of the case. A low/medium setting from some distance is best as you want it to fan out enough to cover MOBO, drives, etc and not race the fans in the case to their maximum. I you still get shutdowns then look again at the power supply. I would heed advice already given - you get what you pay - so go for a good quality PSU with adequate rating for your system's needs. -- Regards, Mick -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] help on install Gentoo on SATA disks
You might make sure that the modules for your SATA card are loaded. I have a SYBA card and it recognized it. On Tuesday February 7 2006 14:44, Ann wrote: I just tried to download the Gentoo Universal Code, burn CD, and then to install it. But i found my SATA disk sda hasn't been recognized. I tried load gentoo doscsi, still didn't work, can somebody help me out? Thanks in advance! -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting at archives on tapes
I dug up some docs and found the format is Tape label Fileset label First backupset Filesetlabel second backup set where each section/filemark begins a tar archive. Tape label is a file in Tar format that allows the program to identify the tape. Data following tape label are fileset/backup pairs that contain the data archived from a backup. If I cat or less the archive file created by the dd you suggested I get some test info about the fileset in ascii (see below). If I less the archive I get this info plus what looks like binary data. However, a tar -tvf of the tape or archive file from dd just gives me the /tmp/tapexx_lbl. The block size is 240 for the backup program and the tape is set to a blocksize of 0 for the SCSI tape. mt show this. SCSI 2 tape drive: File number=34, block number=0, partition=0. Tape block size 0 bytes. Density code 0x28 (Exabyte Mammoth-2). Soft error count since last status=0 General status bits on (8101): EOF ONLINE IM_REP_EN This was designed to be retrieved by standard tar utilties but I guess I'm not using tar right G. You mentioned changing the dd block size - any suggestions? /tmp/fs_95.lbl010066003712101477727110007015 [Fileset Label] FS_BACKUP_TYPE=4 FS_START_DIR=/ FS_X_COMMAND=-fcbFVSa Library1 240 /usr/bp/lists.dir/sub95.inc -zSTATION=gandalf -zWHERE=/ -zVERIFY=2 FS_BLOCKSIZE=240 FS_NODE_NAME=gandalf On Tuesday February 7 2006 10:20, Richard Fish wrote: On 2/5/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I think I figured out what they are doing. They have a bunch of files for the labels. If I move forward using asf n where n is a number from 1-n I can walk through the label files. They take two files/label file so I go from 1 to 3 to 5 How do I get to this file to untar it? What I have is this when I do tar Thanks. Sorry for the slow response on this. It sounds like you don't really know the exact contents of the tapes, so I think you should do something like: # dd if=/dev/tape0n of=archive1 bs=10k # dd if=/dev/tape0n of=archive2 bs=10k ... # dd if=/dev/tape0n of=archiveN bs=10k This should give you a dump of all of the data on the tape, and then you can analyze it in more detail. You might have to fiddle with the bs= value above though. For some background info, tape devices generally write file marks between archives. So as long as you are using the no-rewind tape device and reading the full archive, you can usually just read them one after the other. The mt fsf command is mostly useful for skipping over archives. However, tape devices are not very consistent. Sometimes if you read just part of an archive and close it, the tape will automatically move to the next file mark. Other devices will require an mt fsf command to get to the next file mark. The asf command sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. rewind and fsf is the safest method. -Richard On Sunday February 5 2006 23:36, Richard Fish wrote: On 2/5/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a scsi tape library and a backup program that creates datasets of tar files on the tapes. I gather each dataset is a tar file. I would like to be able to access each of these tar files. At this point I can tar -tvf /dev/tape0 and see the file that contains the tape label. But I can't get beyond that. I've tried skipping to the next file, records, set mark using mt with no luck. mt is the correct command, but you need to make sure you are using a no-rewind tape device (ntape or nst0). Otherwise you will end up seeking to the next file, closing the file descriptor, which causes the driver to rewind the tape. -Richard -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting at archives on tapes
Got it. tar -tvb 240 -f /dev/tape0n | more lists the files. I did some searching and found that the error (cannot allocate memory) sometimes shows up when the block size is wrong. For dd dd -if=/dev/tape0n -of=archive1 bs=240b did it. Thanks for the help. I got to delve a little deeper into tar, dd, and the tape. On Tuesday February 7 2006 10:20, Richard Fish wrote: On 2/5/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, I think I figured out what they are doing. They have a bunch of files for the labels. If I move forward using asf n where n is a number from 1-n I can walk through the label files. They take two files/label file so I go from 1 to 3 to 5 # dd if=/dev/tape0n of=archive1 bs=10k # dd if=/dev/tape0n of=archive2 bs=10k ... # dd if=/dev/tape0n of=archiveN bs=10k This should give you a dump of all of the data on the tape, and then you can analyze it in more detail. You might have to fiddle with the bs= value above though. For some background info, tape devices generally write file marks between archives. So as long as you are using the no-rewind tape device and reading the full archive, you can usually just read them one after the other. The mt fsf command is mostly useful for skipping over archives. However, tape devices are not very consistent. Sometimes if you read just part of an archive and close it, the tape will automatically move to the next file mark. Other devices will require an mt fsf command to get to the next file mark. The asf command sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. rewind and fsf is the safest method. -Richard On Sunday February 5 2006 23:36, Richard Fish wrote: On 2/5/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a scsi tape library and a backup program that creates datasets of tar files on the tapes. I gather each dataset is a tar file. I would like to be able to access each of these tar files. At this point I can tar -tvf /dev/tape0 and see the file that contains the tape label. But I can't get beyond that. I've tried skipping to the next file, records, set mark using mt with no luck. mt is the correct command, but you need to make sure you are using a no-rewind tape device (ntape or nst0). Otherwise you will end up seeking to the next file, closing the file descriptor, which causes the driver to rewind the tape. -Richard -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Getting at archives on tapes
I have a scsi tape library and a backup program that creates datasets of tar files on the tapes. I gather each dataset is a tar file. I would like to be able to access each of these tar files. At this point I can tar -tvf /dev/tape0 and see the file that contains the tape label. But I can't get beyond that. I've tried skipping to the next file, records, set mark using mt with no luck. Any tips on how to do this? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Getting at archives on tapes
Okay, I think I figured out what they are doing. They have a bunch of files for the labels. If I move forward using asf n where n is a number from 1-n I can walk through the label files. They take two files/label file so I go from 1 to 3 to 5 How do I get to this file to untar it? What I have is this when I do tar -tvf /dev/tape0n. -rw-rw 0/01994 2004-11-20 20:56:25 /tmp/fs_95.lbl Thanks. On Sunday February 5 2006 23:36, Richard Fish wrote: On 2/5/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a scsi tape library and a backup program that creates datasets of tar files on the tapes. I gather each dataset is a tar file. I would like to be able to access each of these tar files. At this point I can tar -tvf /dev/tape0 and see the file that contains the tape label. But I can't get beyond that. I've tried skipping to the next file, records, set mark using mt with no luck. mt is the correct command, but you need to make sure you are using a no-rewind tape device (ntape or nst0). Otherwise you will end up seeking to the next file, closing the file descriptor, which causes the driver to rewind the tape. -Richard -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
Well, I have this controller - it arrived today. Did you have to do anything to get I've booted the LiveCD and the controller is listed in lspci. However, EVMS doesn't show any volumes nor does anything show up under scsi in /dev/ I haven't found anything on the list or forum that has helped yet Thanks. On Monday January 9 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote: I just bought this sata controller: SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings. CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y Good luck. Bill Roberts On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan , Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) and am looking at going with SATA. Some input from the those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated. 1. SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you found to work? Is Promise any good? What are some good brands 2. Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores. Thank you. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
Got it. I had to disable the onboard IDE - the docs indicated this controller would coexist with the on-board but evidently it doesn't. I'll do more research later. hopefully I can use one IDE on the motherboard so I can have my DVDs on two separate busses. On Wednesday February 1 2006 23:53, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Well, I have this controller - it arrived today. Did you have to do anything to get I've booted the LiveCD and the controller is listed in lspci. However, EVMS doesn't show any volumes nor does anything show up under scsi in /dev/ I haven't found anything on the list or forum that has helped yet Thanks. On Monday January 9 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote: I just bought this sata controller: SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings. CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y Good luck. Bill Roberts On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan , Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) and am looking at going with SATA. Some input from the those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated. 1. SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you found to work? Is Promise any good? What are some good brands 2. Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores. Thank you. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Konqueror and scripts
I'm running KDE 3.4 and on some sites Konqueror pops up a dialog telling me some script is causing KHTML problems - it may freeze things up. If I hit continue Konqueror continues and all is well. Firefox handles these pages so I assume it's some setting but I haven't found it. Any ideas on what it might be. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Easy? Software Products
Use the root password - it's looking for root's login and password. At least that's how mine works. On Saturday January 21 2006 13:22, maxim wexler wrote: Hi, Welcome to my leaner, stripped-to-the-basics, I-can't-setup-my-printer thread. Come in, make yourself at home. Much roomier here, as you can see. Ok, so you click on 'Do Administrative Tasks' at that place of mystery http://localhost:631/ and it asks you for your username and password and you give it your username and password and it asks you again and again...and as often as it asks, you give until you can give no more! Now what do you do? -mw __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't browse WinXP shares from gentoo
You might want to uncheck simple file sharing in the file options and see if that works. On Saturday January 21 2006 19:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 11:45:38PM +0200, Ryan Viljoen wrote: I can access my Windows XP Pro's shares with out user name or password quite successfully. Using both xsmbrowser and mounting them in the terminal. Are you sure that the other XP machines on the network dont also require a password to access the shares? Did you have to do anything special to enable that kind of sharing? This is the only Windows box on the network (it's my local home LAN), so I don't have anything else to use as a comparison or reference. shrug Matt -- Matt Garman email at: http://raw-sewage.net/index.php?file=email -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SATA Hardware vs Software RAID
I'm moving from SCSI to SATA and was wondering if anyone has any experience with the speed of software RAID vs hardware RAID. I'm currently using hardware RAID. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SATA Hardware vs Software RAID
Thanks for the in-the-field experience. My feeling was as you indicated that CPUs are cheap and powerful so they can do the work. However, I like to hear from others who have been there! On Thursday January 19 2006 14:39, Mike Williams wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 18:33, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I'm moving from SCSI to SATA and was wondering if anyone has any experience with the speed of software RAID vs hardware RAID. I'm currently using hardware RAID. I think the general consensus is that now CPUs are so cheap, and so powerful, that they can quite easily offset the extra horsepower needed, unless your workload is heavily CPU bound. -- Mike Williams -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Packages list
Check out man equery. On Thursday January 19 2006 19:25, Felipe Ribeiro wrote: Where do I find the list with all installed packages? Cheers, Felipe -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem
I had the unloadable modules. I then reran config today and it worked - config.pl created a new setup. I turned the system on this morning so maybe that did it. Can you explain host vs bridge vs other network options? I want to have vmplayer use the same IP address as the system it's running on. Thanks. On Sunday 15 January 2006 01:46, Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com) wrote: do you have module unloading compiled into your kernel? if not this is needed because of how the /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware script works also a debug check list first check for your vm modules lsmod this should show you your vmmon / vmnet modules also check your /dev folder for your vm files ls -l /dev/vm* this should show you vmmon / vmnet / vmnet0 and so on lastly if you find that you have module unloading support and all the above check out fine do rc-update add vmware default then just reboot a very windows approach to this i know but im lzy and it will do 2 things... 1) shows you that your install is goin good (if u reboot and vmware does'nt work then it aint a good install) 2) deals with any modules that may be loaded in as perment, im sure there may be a better way but ... im lzy =) as you reboot you should see the vm services load with the typical [ok] login then run your vmware as you would normally. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/vmware-workstation-daemon-problem-t720417.html#a23869 00 Sent from the gentoo-user forum at Nabble.com. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem
Hmm, I'll have to think about this. At work I'm running vmplayer on XP and at home I have it on Gentoo. For work, at this point I just want to have the vmplayer session to run Linux mail and news clients (because Windows doesn't have anything worthwhile). This is at work and I have a static IP address that is allowed through to the outside so I have to use the address of the host. Where do I find docs that go into all of this? Thank you for the explanation. On Sunday January 15 2006 20:05, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/15/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you explain host vs bridge vs other network options? I want to have vmplayer use the same IP address as the system it's running on. The closest to what you said would be NAT networking. In this case, the guest receives an address on a private network, but can communicate with the outside world using the host's address. However, nothing on the outside can get services from your guest. If you want your guest to provide services to the rest of your network, you need bridged networking. In this case, both the host and the guest show up on the network at different MAC addresses, and thus can get different IP addresses. It is just like if they were separate computers. Host networking is only if you do not want the guest to communicate with the outside at all. The only machine it can communicate with is the host (or other guests) on a private network. You can actually create multiple network cards for the guest using any combination of the above. I have used host-only networking to provide samba shares to the guest, without exporting them to the rest of the world, plus a bridged network connection for the guest to participate in the LAN. -Richard -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware workstation daemon problem
This post came at a good time. I had just installed vmplayer on my XP box at work so I could run Linux and have some real mail and news programs. So I decided to try it on gentoo. Emerged it and it wouldn't configure - kept whining it couldn't stop vmware - of course not it wasn't running. I did what you suggested in the first post and got it to configure. I then did what you suggested here. However, when I do /etc/init.d/vmware the first time it did this: * Starting VMware services: [ ok ] * Virtual machine monitor [ !! ] * Virtual ethernet [ !! ] * Bridged networking on /dev/vmnet0 [ !! ] * Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet1 (background)[ ok ] * Host-only networking on /dev/vmnet8 (background)[ ok ] * NAT service on /dev/vmnet8 [ !! ] After that I get this when I try and start vmware. [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d # /etc/init.d/vmware start VMware Player is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured for the running kernel. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command: /opt/vmware/player/bin/vmware-config.pl. If I run vmware-config.pl it complains it can't stop it. I even repeated the steps in your first post. Any ideas on what might be wrong? Thanks. On Sunday 15 January 2006 00:50, Halo0784 (sent by Nabble.com) wrote: well for /etc/init.d/vmware all it does is makes a pretty output to a call to the /etc/vmware/init.d/vmware file but an append to my earlier post after following the instructions for the install created by the vmware-config script we can use the following commands to clean up what tweak we did mv /etc/init.d/old-vmware /etc/init.d/vmware rc-update add vmware default now it is safe to reboot with the original gentoo script ive done this tweaked install on 3 systems so far and all have been 100% safe and installed correctly infact im useing IE6 in a full windows xp install running in vmware as i post this =) all with a very big smile to know that windows will no longer die when i dont want it to -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/vmware-workstation-daemon-problem-t720417.html#a23866 92 Sent from the gentoo-user forum at Nabble.com. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video recording
Thanks. I'll look it up. On Monday 09 January 2006 13:26, James wrote: Brett I. Holcomb brettholcomb at bellsouth.net writes: For those who have done this what software do you recommend to record the VHS, edit the recording, and then write it to DVD. The linux Journal had an article on 'kino' some time ago you might find useful. hth, James -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
That is very nice to know. I like the price G. Thank you for this and the drive info. On Monday 09 January 2006 10:35, Bill Roberts wrote: I just bought this sata controller: SYBA SY-VIA-150 PCI SATA /IDE Combo Controller Card, Non Raid Cost was $11.60 at Newegg. Gives you two satas, one ide. Only has one sata cable with it, and you will need sata power-adapters, depending on the sata drives you buy. Works well with the following kernel settings. CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_VIA=y CONFIG_SCSI_QLA2XXX=y Good luck. Bill Roberts On 20:50 Sun 08 Jan , Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) and am looking at going with SATA. Some input from the those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated. 1. SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you found to work? Is Promise any good? What are some good brands 2. Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores. Thank you. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
Thanks. I'll look at them. Anyone want any used IBM 36 Gig SCSI Ultra 3 drives G. On Monday 09 January 2006 11:38, maxim wexler wrote: 2. Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores. Western Digital works OK for me. in my .config: CONFIG_SCSI_SATA=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_NV=y CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SIL=y __ Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) and am looking at going with SATA. Some input from the those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated. 1. SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you found to work? Is Promise any good? What are some good brands 2. Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores. Thank you. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list problems
It's working here. On Sunday 08 January 2006 20:52, Jamie Dobbs wrote: Are there issues with the mailing lists at the moment? I have made a few posts in the last 2-3 hours that have yet to show up on the lists. I've also noticed considerably less traffic on the lists in recent days, could this be due to a general email slow down due to an increase in spam email traffic? -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
Thanks, Mark, for the info. Sounds like I need to avoid ATI G. I'm in a position where I have a motherboard that doesn't support SATA so I can either go IDE or SATA and going SATA appears to be the future way. That means I have to add a card. Wat the Promise used on a Linux system? Sounds like I'll pass on Seagate - we used to say the made IDE and DOA drives G. Thanks. On Sunday 08 January 2006 21:07, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi Brett On 1/8/06, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) and am looking at going with SATA. Some input from the those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated. 1. SATA Controllers - I see a bunch listed in menuconfig but what have you found to work? Is Promise any good? What are some good brands I have no experience with SATA cards so this may be useless info. I've used Promise SATA on a 2 year old machine at my dad's house, NVidia SATA in my AMD64 machine and ATI SATA in my Pundit-R Myth frontend machines. Of the three the ATI has worked pretty badly in terms of performance. All have been reliable so far. 2. Sata drives - what have you found to be reliable and work well. I've crossed Hitachi off my list because of my experience with the Ultrastores. I'm at wit's end about Seagate drives. I bought 3 80GB Seagates from Newegg. The produced all sorts of strange messages in my dmesg files and I sent them back. This was on the ATI Pundit-R machines. I've used WD SATA drives in the other machines, 80GB and 250GB. They have worked really well. Again, it's pretty limited info and probably not very useful in terms of buying an adapter card, etc. Good luck, Mark -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Video recording
I have some VHS tapes I want to record to DVD. I have an Nvidia GeForce3 - TI500 card with Composite Input. For those who have done this what software do you recommend to record the VHS, edit the recording, and then write it to DVD. Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sata Controllers and drives
I'd love to keep this card (it has 256MB of ram, too) but the problem is that it's running six IBM/Hitachi Ultrastore drives - all of which are useless. They keep going bad and even though they are under warranty and get replaced I can't build a system that keeps working for any period of time. Unfortunately, SCSI drives are expensive and I can't afford them at this time. So I'm looking at going to something more affordable that will let me run. This is a home workstation although I would like to do some audio work with it. On Sunday 08 January 2006 22:24, kashani wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have a system I need to upgrade from SCSI with an Adaptec 3210S RAID (I'm using HItachi nee IBM SCSI Ultrastor drives which aren't holding up too well) and am looking at going with SATA. Some input from the those with recommendations or experiences would be appreciated. Seeing as that's a real RAID card, complete with an onboard cache of up to 256MB RAM, I'd try to replace it with something as good or better. That qualification pretty much eliminates 90% of the SATA cards out there. Most of them are consumer grade with no caching and usually no RAID processing since they're doing it in the driver. I've had good luck with 3ware cards and whatever OEM Adaptec AAC RAID card Dell includes in their machines these days. kashani -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] need help with kmail
For what you're doing you don't need the MTA or MDAs. I just installed KDE 3.4 on one of my Gentoo systems and all I did was goto the accounts setup and point it at bellsouth mailserver, enter the username,etc. and it worked. KDE allows you to set up several accounts as you know and handles them very well. Maybe to got Settings-configure kmail and set up a new test account that only goes to Bellsouth. On Tuesday 03 January 2006 09:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 January 2006 02:10, a tiny voice compelled Rumen Yotov to write: On (02/01/06 17:31), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ernie, are you doing anything special here? I'm running KDE and simply went into the accounts and set up my pop server (mail.bellsouth.net) and it works. Same for T-bird. BTW, look at Korn for a newsreader . I'm not trying to do anything special... just get kmail to send mail. I have a bellsouth account as well as a Netplex account. Both were set up for pop server and worked fine until I deleted old KDE versions and did some house cleaning. It would seem that I removed what ever is supposed to handle authentication to my ISP's SMTP server, or possibly I borked some config file somewhere. IIRC, when I installed Gentoo 3 years ago, I set it up to use the reccomended MTA, and everything just worked. I can't tell what, if anything I may have done to blow the mail sending, but, in all honesty, I've tried a lot of ways to fix this and am unsure of all the changes I've made. What MTA are you using? I've seen in my searches something written about MDA's but can't find out what, if any MDA I should be running or what an MDA does. snip -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Portage Update
First check and see if a newer version is available but masked. You can do ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -s ruby and see what you get. Disclaimer - DO NOT install it using the ACCEPT_KEYWORD! If a newer version is there then update the /etc/portage/package.keyword file. To contribute create an ebuild and submit it on bugzilla. First search bugzilla to see if it's already there. If Rail is maintained you might also contact the maintainer to see what his plans are. On Sunday 01 January 2006 15:18, William Gabriel wrote: Hello and Happy New Year to everybody: I want to start this post off by stressing that I am not complaining, but merely inquiring. I have recently become interested in learning Ruby and Ruby on Rails. I installed Ruby onto my system using Portage, and it happened to be the version (1.8.2) required for Rails. My main question has to do with about how Portage gets updated. Is there some central authority that updates the repository, or is it any user that is interested in making a Portage package? How often does software get updated (it seems like Ruby was pretty close to up-to-date, but Rails was a little behind). Is there any way that I can help update the package? Is there documentation for updating packages? And where would I find the 0.13.1 package source so that I have a base to work with? And then how wou submit the new package to the central repository? Thanks, Bill -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE without aRts?
I don't run arts and things seem to work but as someone else pointed out skype needs artsd. I have -arts in my make.conf. As for all those packages the -D makes it also do dependencies. On Saturday 31 December 2005 15:27, Abhay Kedia wrote: Hi, I am currently running a KDE 3.5 system with arts in /etc/make.conf but now experiencing serious problems with it. In my quest to remove arts I tried to do a USE=-arts emerge -upDNv world and found that emerge wants to recompile 134 packages!!! I am a bit sceptical in letting emerge take such a big step so I wanted to take advice from people with first hand experiences on running KDE without arts (if any). What all problems should I expect by putting a -arts in /etc/make.conf? I tried searching on Google and Gentoo Forums but could not find anything conclusive. Also, I like to use JuK as my audio player and use Skype extensively. Will disabling arts trouble me? Is it a must to run a sound server? Here I would like to mention that I am using an on-board sound card (Intel HDA) which does not have hardware mixing but iirc ALSA's dmix has taken over the software mixing stuff now. So do I need a sound server AT ALL? If yes then will running JACK suffice? I have been reading a lot about JACK lately but don't know how it is faring on single user desktop systems. I will be highly thankful for any insights. TIA Regards, Abhay -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OO.o 2?
Use /etc/portages/package.keywords to put this in. app-office/openoffice ~x86 With what you did you will use ~x86 on everything. On Thursday 22 December 2005 00:56, Martin S wrote: Before my crash I had installed OpenOffice 2 on Gentoo, now going by ~x86 (again!) I still am not getting to emerge OO.o 2. It is ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 in /etc/make.conf isn't it? Regards, Martin S -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to make emerge skirt a package built from tar.gz
Arrgh, trying to do it from memory! Thanks for the correction. On Wednesday 14 December 2005 15:41, Robert Crawford wrote: On Wednesday 14 December 2005 09:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't /etc/package/provides the proper way to do this as inject is deprecated? It's: /etc/portage/profile/package.provided From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is there and Alternative to compiling kde?
Did you check out the Gentoo docs on kde split ebuilds? It has a lot of good info. I started to emerge with the kde and then decided to go with the meta so per the instructions I had to remove some stuff - it shows up as blocked. On Saturday 10 December 2005 11:31, Harry Putnam wrote: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: kde-base/kde is a meta package, it pulls in all the monolithic KDE builds. If you are concerned about installation compile times, you should not be trying to build the whole of KDE. Do you really need all of kdegames, kdeedu and kdetoys to get your system running? Stick with kde-base/kdebase or kde-base/kdebase-meta, you can cancel your current emerge and merge one of these instead, then add the rest of what you want once the system is running. I'm confused here. (even more..) Before starting the compile: I ran a comparision of `emerge -v -p kde' and emerge -v -p kde-meta The last showed a much larger pile of dependancies than the former. So I ran the former. I've now canceled as suggested and running `emerge kde-base/kdebase' It only showed the main kde-3.4X as dependancy. But with all the screwups I've managed to get these kde packages installed: (And don't need several of them) kde-base/kdegraphics-3.4.1-r1 * kde-base/kdelibs-3.4.1-r1 * kde-base/kdebase-pam-6 * kde-base/kde-env-3-r4 * kde-base/arts-3.4.1-r2 * kde-base/kdebase-3.4.1-r1 * kde-base/kdeartwork-3.4.1 * kde-base/kdepim-3.4.1-r2 * kde-base/kdegames-3.4.1 * kde-base/kdeutils-3.4.1 * kde-base/kdenetwork-3.4.1-r1 * kde-base/kdeedu-3.4.1-r1 * -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ivtv 0.5 ebuild?
Try doing ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge ivtv -s Which will you versions that are not considered stable yet. On Saturday 10 December 2005 20:25, Drew Tomlinson wrote: Someone on the MythTV list recommended I install ivtv 0.5 to get a pctv HD-3000 card working. However portage shows the current version at 0.4-r2. Is there an ebuild for 0.5? Kicks to the portage overlay process welcome. Thanks, Drew -- Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse Magic Tricks, DVDs, Videos, Books, More! http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] package.keywords/kde
You say you did it in your home directory but portage looks at /etc/portage for the files such as package.keywords. Did you move it to /etc/portage? On Saturday 10 December 2005 22:02, Ernie Schroder wrote: Bump On Tuesday 06 December 2005 21:33, a tiny voice compelled Ernie Schroder to write: After updating to kde-3.5.0, an emerge -up world, as expected wants to downgrade a whole lot of apps. So, I decided it was time to get /etc/portage/package.keywords up to date. I did (in my home directory) # equery list | grep kde-base | grep 3.5 package.keywords and added the ~x86 after the list. Now none of the KDE packages want to be downgraded but there's still a bunch of stuff that was upgraded today -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Framebuffer and kenerl options
It's under device drivers-graphic support. You select Support for framebuffer. Select it and you get a VESA VGA graphics support option in the list which has a sub item with VESA driver type Hit enter there and you can select vesa or vesafb-tng. On Thursday 08 December 2005 21:45, Harry Putnam wrote: Installing from scratch and getting confused about where the kernel framebuffer stuff is. Quoting from the handbook here: --- First of all you need to know what type of framebuffer device you're using. If you use a Gentoo patched kernel tree (such as gentoo-sources) you will have had the possibility of selecting vesafb-tng as the VESA driver type (which is default for these kernel sources). If this is the case, you are using vesafb-tng and do not need to set a vga statement. Otherwise you are using the vesafb driver and need to set the vga statement. --- I did use the gentoo-sources. I did not use genkernel. I didn't see anything about vesafb-tng in the make menuconfig options nor in the resulting .config. I'm assuming its under Graphic Drivers section? In older kernels I remember this being obvious but not in this one. The install manual tells you that you have to know which type of device but I wasn't able to tell where in the kernel config this is? I've run gentoo for about a year or more and have never really got the framebuffer stuff to work like I wanted, so have just ignored it all that time. I'd now like to get it working finally. Seemed the stumbling block has always been getting the large console resolution 1280x1024. This is easily accomplished in lilo so I've been running that way, but then ... no framebuffer. W I want the gentoo trademark too. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge --resume
As long as you don't do another merge between the first one and the resumed one it should remember. On Wed, 7 Dec 2005, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Wed, 2005-12-07 at 20:56 -0500, AJ Spagnoletti wrote: I am in the process of upgrading GCC and currently am doing emerge -e world I have about 70 packages left to be rebuilt and I got curious. Will emerge --resume work and pick up with the 70 or so packages left to be rebuilt if the system is shutdown or will emerge --resume only pick up an emerge if the system is not shutdown? Thanks in advance for replies. A.J. Earlier this afternoon I had to restart a machine that was doing just what you described. I was able to emerge --resume successfully. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 14TB filesystem problems...
LVM and EVMS are not directly comparable. EVMS is a full volume management system which can manage LVM volumes. I used EVMS to manage my disks and part of that was creating LVM2 volumes under EVMS. To me EVMS allows me to manage the disks easier. On Sat, 12 Nov 2005, James wrote: Richard Fish bigfish at asmallpond.org writes: AFAIK, yes. LVM2 would be the non-traditional partitioning scheme of choice for Linux. Plus, you can grow the filesystem to a second array later if you need more space. But, I have no experience with filesystems larger than 0.5TB, so I cannot say what the _best_ method is. LVM2 would just be my first choice. Why would this be better than EVMS? Note, I'm not challenging what you are saying, just curious to learn the advantages or limitations of LVM2 versus EVMS? http://evms.sourceforge.net http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_evms I only ask these questions, as I'm researching how to use either LVM or something to manage a very large file sytem (T bytes) of video and several databases. James -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot open root device hde4 or uknown-block(0,0)
Yes, run lspci as root and it will spit out what you have. Your motherboard manual may also give the information. On Sun, 6 Nov 2005, Bill Six wrote: --- Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill Six wrote: VFS: Cannot open root device hde4 or Ok. That sounds good (I've usually used genkernel, now I'm compiling the kernel manually.) I have the filesystem compiled in the kernel, how would I find the ide drivers for my chipset? lspci? Thanks -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags...
emerge --newuse world -p will catch all of it. Check the Gentoo docs. On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Eric Waguespack wrote: say for example I installed Gentoo with some USE flags, but then I changed my mind and wanted to add (for example) the offensive USE flag to my make.conf (I have no idea what offensive does, but with a name like that, it must be good http://gentoo-portage.com/USE ). what would I do (short of a reinstallation) to recompile everything with these new USE flags? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg.conf
One thing to check is do you have any /dev/nv* devices? There was a thread in the forums on this which has a script for recreating them and another thread on this list in which I posted it. On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Jorge Almeida wrote: I can't find out what I'm doing wrong. I have a nvidia card (GeForce FX 5200) and I managed to launch the X server with the nv driver. When I try to use the nvidia driver, the server aborts, complaining about not finding a usable screen section. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev and nvidia
Yup, that's the problem - why I don't know either and searching didn't turn up any answers other than it's broke. I used the script to create them and it worked. On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 8:57:59 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a new system I built I had to recreate the /dev/nv* items. The problem is udev is not creating the device nodes like it should. Neither 0.68, nor 0.70. Why? Don't know. I took NVmakedevices.sh from an older nvidia-kernel (downgraded as part of my troubleshooting the issue), saved it in /root, upgraded - 1.0.7676 removes it and doesn't have it in the ebuild, and added to /etc/conf.d/local.start. Bob -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail systems
Thank you, Nick for the excellent explanation. I'll save it and look over it. At one time I had some threads on this but I can't find them anymore - probably were on the system that crashed G. On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Nick Rout wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:54:12 +0200 Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: OK, sorry, I remember now why I gave up using opera! What you can do is setting up a mail server, (postfix, exim, qmail) as an imap server on your machine. You are confused. postfix, exim and qmail are MTA's - they speak smtp. They do not store mail, they pass it to another smtp server of an LDA (local delivery agent). I think that the appropriate advice is: Have procmail deliver the mail to an imap mail store appropriate for an imap server of your choice. Options are cyrus, courier, dovecot and others. Then you can configure both opera and pine (or any other imap capable email program) to access the mail via your choice of imap server. Your delivery path is: ISP pop server-fetchmail-procmail-imap store the path to access the mail is imap store-imap server-opera | -- pine -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail systems
Nick, I take it you use or like cyrus? Any comments on pros and cons of each? On Tue, 11 Oct 2005, Nick Rout wrote: | - other imap client Pretty well any email client does imap, including thunderbird, evolution, outlook (and express), mutt, balsa et al. An imap setup makes it easy to play with email clients until you find the right one, because everything remains on the server until you delete it. PS cyrus is very robust but harder to set up. Fetchmail keeps its business as before, now feeding your mail server; you can point opera to your server. Procmail would not be used in this case, but you can organize folders within opera... Pine would still be able to read mail from your server hth, -- Jean -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Mail systems
I have been running fetchmail-procmail-pine but would like to use Opera. However, Opera doesn't appear to be able to understand the system of mailboxes for Pine. How can I use Opera with fetchmail, procmail and pine or do I need to move to something else - like postfix. If so what is recommeded and how is it setup? Do I still use fetchmail and procmail with something like postfix? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail systems
Thank you. Opera is a client but it doesn't understand the system of mboxes or maildirs that Pine uses - at least not as far as I've been able to discover. It can talk to IMAP or POP servers but doesn't seem to have a place for procmail to dump the mail to. With Pine I can tell it to use the local mail folders where mail is dumped after it's fetched and processed by procmail. I've liked the fetchmail-procmail setup as I can have procmail process the mail in many ways and even though Opera can do much of that I'ld like to keep this process. Thanks. On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote: Le 09 octobre à 20:49:12 Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] écrit notamment: | I have been running fetchmail-procmail-pine but would like to use | Opera. However, Opera doesn't appear to be able to understand the system | of mailboxes for Pine. Is not pine a mail client, just as opera(mail)? In which case what would pine's system of mailboxes be? | How can I use Opera with fetchmail, procmail and pine or do I need to | move to something else - like postfix. If so what is recommeded and how | is it setup? Do I still use fetchmail and procmail with something like | postfix? I think you can use any combination of those, but opera can retrieve your mail (the basic function of fetchmail), split it into separate folders (the basic function of procmail), and send your mail through a remote smtp server (postfix would do it also, with more complicated things). It all depends of what you expect from your mail system; if you manage one or two personal accounts, opera alone will do fine, but you can also keep your fetchmail and procmail with their own settings. If what you aim at is using alternatively pine or opera (or gnus, or mutt, or thunderbird, etc...), then you need to use an imap-based system, which can be done with postfix, or by taking advantage of imap capacities of your remote servers (if they provide it) hth, -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email
Re: [gentoo-user] Simple command line stuff
There is a online, downloadable Advanced Bash at http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ Which is well worth it. I printed it out and refer to it. There are others that I found with a search for Advanced Bash but I haven't tried them. On Sun, 9 Oct 2005, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I don't have a single book on Linux. (Amazing...) Can someone recommend a simple book on command line stuff, or better yet a good web site on this topic? For instance, I wanted to run a specific command on every file in a directory which will create a new file, so I need to do commandfile1.wavfile1-convert.wav I need to take each name, create a new name to build the actual command that gets run and then do that for every file in the directory, or even in a hierarchy of directories. Thanks, Mark -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Order for Packages?
Gentoo figures out the dependencies so if you try and install KDE and X is not installed it will install X first. Do emerge packagename -p and it will tell you what it will install. On Wed, 5 Oct 2005, billyd wrote: I've been playing around with Gentoo 2005.1 trying to get it installed using genkernel. I am a little beyond newbie with linux but still in a steep learning curve. I am at the point in this installation where I can start installing packages. The handbook uses kde as an example. My question: Is there an order in which packages need to be installed. For example, should x11-xorg be installed before kde? Thanks, -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to execute i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
You may be right. I hope it's gone - it caused considerable headache! On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Frank Schafer wrote: Maybe it's fixed. I had exactly the same problem during the installation of python-fchksum. This is on b.g.o. too and we discussed this on gentoo-dev a while ago. Python had the compiler it is built with hard coded and python-fchksum was built before Python during ``emerge system''. I had to ``emerge --oneshot python'' before ``emerge system''. If it works without this trick, let's hope this dependency bug is fixed now. Regards Frank On Sat, 2005-10-01 at 18:37 -0400, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Well, I did an emerge --emptytree system today and it all of them worked - no errors. I guess the emerge system put whatever was needed in place -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Working for now - Nvidia drivers and console black screen
For the record in case this helps someone. After more searching I found this post which has a script that creates the nvidia /dev entries. It appears for some reason that udev is not doing it. I'm using udev 068-r1 which is latest stable and changelog does not mention any nvidia fixes in newer versions. A search for udev+nvidia turned up others with the trouble. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-375466.html On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I've searched bugzilla, the forums, google and I can't find anything that helps although I've tried several things. I have installed a system from stage 1 and have it running. I emerged the nvidia-kernel and glx drivers and set up xorg.conf. Xorg.conf works with the nv driver and works with the nvidia driver. I can startx fine (I am booting to default command line right now and then run startx) and I get my X display and xfce4 running. However, when I exit xfce4 and go back to the console the screen is black and I can never get it to display. I am using vesafg-tng - no rivafb. I have agpgart as a module. I remember a thread on it but can't find it and can't remember what the problem was. The crazy thing is that this system worked before with nvidia and the same card. I had to do a rebuild due to disk problems. I tried the stable and the ~x86 nvidia-* also. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel tuning
Out of curiosity and so I can learn. Why did you suggest CONFIG_HZ be set to 100 (IIRC default is 250) and also what exactly is it supposed to do for you. We did not have it before. Also what about CONFIG_PREMPT being none? The help mentions it is for low latency. Thanks. On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: John Jolet wrote: On Saturday 01 October 2005 14:59, gentuxx wrote: - Mark Shields IIRC, RedHat kernels are relatively generic in that they have almost MUCH faster. 1) Because you'll have a pre-defined kernel config. 2) You'll know what most of the kernel options are (at least superficially) and which ones you need enabled. You'll just have to read the help for any new ones that pop up. ;-) I've done all that, in terms of drivers/features turned on/off/modules. I meant more in terms of things like threads per process, processes per user (ulimit and friends), max data stack, that sort of thing. For that take a look at http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20050808-newsletter.xml section Tips and Tricks The sys-kernel/hardened-sources give some more flexibility but the fact is not so widely used, as (on amd64) the vanilla ones has to be considered. Also setting ulimit and sysctl apply to every linux system not only gentoo and should be always checked, also if you trust that the distro you are using is optimized to be used as server. Also to consider: CONFIG_HZ=100 CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y IOSCHED_AS || IOSCHED_DEADLINE || IOSCHED_CFQ HTHToo -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel tuning
Thank you for the explanation. I missed that servers is what the OP is really interested in. I'll look at the scheduler options again. On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Out of curiosity and so I can learn. Why did you suggest CONFIG_HZ be set to 100 (IIRC default is 250) and also what exactly is it supposed to do for you. We did not have it before. In the past was fixed to 100Hz, then to 1000 appeared, now there is a third option for 250, the current default and a good compromise. An home system become more responsive with a higher frequency. cpu and interrupt timings become lower with a lower frequency, so it's better for a server system. Expecially a multi processor one. Also what about CONFIG_PREMPT being none? The help mentions it is for low latency. CONFIG_HZ=100 CONFIG_PREEMPT_NONE=y IOSCHED_AS || IOSCHED_DEADLINE || IOSCHED_CFQ Preemption permit to interrupt kernel processes, providing a still more responsive kernel. Good if you're hering music, playing videos and such but not very interesting for a server. The third option is the scheduler (IOSCHED_*) how the kernel access the disk. this has been discussed in great detail over the net. Quoting the kernel help here, since it's short and explanatory. - quote - CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS: The anticipatory I/O scheduler is the default disk scheduler. It is generally a good choice for most environments, but is quite large and complex when compared to the deadline I/O scheduler, it can also be slower in some cases especially some database loads. Symbol: IOSCHED_AS [=y] Prompt: Anticipatory I/O scheduler Defined at drivers/block/Kconfig.iosched:14 Location: - Device Drivers - Block devices - IO Schedulers - quote - -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT shell scripting] how to wait a few seconds
man sleep? On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: This is pretty dopey especially since I've used this dozens of times in the past. I can not remember how to make a script wait for a few seconds during execution. Its something really simple like. smcmd 3 Where smcmd is something like set, sit, bla etc. and the number is number of seconds to wait. Trying both set and sit here I get an error from sit and no pause from set. (Using ksh) -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an ebuild
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS only works on the command line you use it on. You need to add this to /etc/portage/package.keywords to make it stick. mail-filter/bogofilter ~x86 should do it. If you want to get more specific as to versions check man portage. On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: Just stumbling around with half remembered things to get an ebuild to install. I wanted to install the most recent version of bogofilter, reported in portage as mail-filter/bogofilter/bogofilter-0.95.2.ebuild This package was masked on my system so I finally used: ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge -v \ /usr/portage/mail-filter/bogofilter/bogofilter-0.95.2.ebuild Which seems to have worked. However when I run `esearch bogofilter' it still reports like this: * mail-filter/bogofilter Latest version available: 0.92.8 Latest version installed: 0.92.8 Size of downloaded files: 622 kB [...] Running bogofilter --version does show the 0.95 installed: bogofilter --version bogofilter version 0.95.2 Is this normal or what? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Nvidia drivers and console black screen
I've searched bugzilla, the forums, google and I can't find anything that helps although I've tried several things. I have installed a system from stage 1 and have it running. I emerged the nvidia-kernel and glx drivers and set up xorg.conf. Xorg.conf works with the nv driver and works with the nvidia driver. I can startx fine (I am booting to default command line right now and then run startx) and I get my X display and xfce4 running. However, when I exit xfce4 and go back to the console the screen is black and I can never get it to display. I am using vesafg-tng - no rivafb. I have agpgart as a module. I remember a thread on it but can't find it and can't remember what the problem was. The crazy thing is that this system worked before with nvidia and the same card. I had to do a rebuild due to disk problems. I tried the stable and the ~x86 nvidia-* also. Any ideas would be appreciated. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to execute i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
Thank you. I finally did an emerge system and it all worked without problem. I may do what you say and see what happens. On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 1.10.2005 schrieb Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm installing from a stage 1 on 2005.0 LiveCD. I did the boot strap and a now am doing the emerge --emptytree system stage. However, I keep getting this error on python-fchksum AND files. unable to execute i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: No such file or directory error: command 'i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1 I had the same error here recently. I solved it by symlinking the missing i386 stuff to the i686 pendants. Right now I have no access to the machine where the probleme arose but IIRC I just compared the folder structures of i386 with i686 and filled in the blanks so to say. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] unable to execute i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
Well, I did an emerge --emptytree system today and it all of them worked - no errors. I guess the emerge system put whatever was needed in place although I do not have an i386 directory. I was already to try your fix! I'll file it for future reference. On Sat, 1 Oct 2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am 1.10.2005 schrieb Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm installing from a stage 1 on 2005.0 LiveCD. I did the boot strap and a now am doing the emerge --emptytree system stage. However, I keep getting this error on python-fchksum AND files. unable to execute i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: No such file or directory error: command 'i386-pc-linux-gnu-gcc' failed with exit status 1 I had the same error here recently. I solved it by symlinking the missing i386 stuff to the i686 pendants. Right now I have no access to the machine where the probleme arose but IIRC I just compared the folder structures of i386 with i686 and filled in the blanks so to say. Checking Bugzilla showed some bugs on this but the hints given did not work - I still get the error. That bug was marked a duplicate of another that had a long discussion on dependencies but no help on fixing it. I have not touched CHOST it is still CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu Any ideas on how to fix this? -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] SATA and RAID
I'm considering moving to SATA and wanted some feedback from other Gentoo users. 1. For SATA RAID what cards and drives do you recommend for a desktop system running Gentoo. I will be doing some audio recording on a dual AMD 1.6 with 2 gig of memory 2. If I went with SATA how much does using software RAID and LVM hurt me? 3. Anything else I should know? Thanks. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] named (BIND) kernel module dependency
On 2.4 you edited a header. Maybe it's Security Options-Enable Different Security models-Default Linux capabilities? On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, gentuxx wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I'm trying to get BIND set up and when I go to start named, I get the following error: * Starting named ... named: capset failed: Operation not permitted: please ensure that the capset kernel module is loaded. see insmod(8) I recompiled the kernel last night, but didn't see anything that pertained to named or capset in the config. Can anyone provide a clue as to what I might be missing? Do I just need to re-emerge bind bind-tools? Thanks. - -- gentux echo hfouvyAdpy/ofu | perl -pe 's/(.)/chr(ord($1)-1)/ge' gentux's gpg fingerprint == 34CE 2E97 40C7 EF6E EC40 9795 2D81 924A 6996 0993 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDHiGWLYGSSmmWCZMRAqYrAJ9l34zTkypyvqEwXVmfS5RsSh2WXwCdHNEB gh66Aqs+4iIGEnfbWg6bsXE= =DXpH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Resolved - Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?
I went to 2.6.13 and now I can boot and run on one system so I'll check out the other soon. The boot hung on coldplug pnp but I removed it and will troubleshoot it later. On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thanks. I'll look into this and try it. On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if it's just me or is anyone else having problems. I am results in system not running. I run a couple of 32-bit systems at work with onboard Adaptec 79xx controllers. Both had earlier 2.6.11 and 2.6.12 kernels and both now have 2.6.12-r9 kernels. No problems on either. One runs a 4 disk software raid 5 setup (local Gentoo mirror). Both boot off the SCSI controller. fwiw- I never use make oldconfig Somewhere in the 2.6.x series I discovered that if I mount /boot, then run make config, it would pick up my running config. Perhaps it was the System.map setting in /boot. Regardless, I just do - make menuconfig make make modules_install make install vim /boot/grub/grub.conf Is it just me G. Sounds like something else in your config isn't set up properly. Bob - -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?
Thanks. I'll look into this and try it. On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Bob Sanders wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 22:13:43 -0400 (EDT) Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm wondering if it's just me or is anyone else having problems. I am results in system not running. I run a couple of 32-bit systems at work with onboard Adaptec 79xx controllers. Both had earlier 2.6.11 and 2.6.12 kernels and both now have 2.6.12-r9 kernels. No problems on either. One runs a 4 disk software raid 5 setup (local Gentoo mirror). Both boot off the SCSI controller. fwiw- I never use make oldconfig Somewhere in the 2.6.x series I discovered that if I mount /boot, then run make config, it would pick up my running config. Perhaps it was the System.map setting in /boot. Regardless, I just do - make menuconfig make make modules_install make install vim /boot/grub/grub.conf Is it just me G. Sounds like something else in your config isn't set up properly. Bob - -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Adaptec AIC7xxx kernel problems?
I'm wondering if it's just me or is anyone else having problems. I am running 2.6.11-r6 with no problems on a system with an Adaptec 39160 card. I tried to go to 2.6.12-r6 and r9 but kept getting kernel panics on boot. I have another system I'm installing Gentoo on that has an Adaptec 2940uw on and since I was using 2005.0 it had 2.6.12 on it and would not boot. I found that on both systems if I build the aic7xxx as a module I can get further in the boot process. I also tried 2005.1 but that is a disaster on both systems. I tell it to noload=aic7xxx and it loads it anyway which results in system not running. Is it just me G. -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] equery
I've seen messages like that from portage and when I run the command again it works. It seems that sometimes portage is running and executing a command like that cause it to get confused. On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Holly Bostick wrote: The problem, from the looks of it, could be in Python, or in gentoolkit itself. Have you updated Python recently? Perhaps you need to run /usr/sbin/python-updater to make sure everything is copacetic. python is up-to-date, and I just run /usr/sbin/python-updater (how do you know this? Meaning: what part of the docs did I miss?) Or, of course, you could upgrade gentoolkit; maybe that was a problem with it that was fixed (gentoolkit didn't used to work very well for 'depends' or 'uses' at all, until recently). Did it, to the ~x86 version. No joy. My box at home has the same stable versions and equery works... Holly Thanks. Jorge -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] equery
Okay - it's not that then G. On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Jorge Almeida wrote: On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I've seen messages like that from portage and when I run the command again it works. It seems that sometimes portage is running and executing a command like that cause it to get confused. This has happened for some time now, on my office computer. It is consistent... -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
To me it depends on what you want/need/like. I don't like Mozilla because it has everything in one package. I like to be able to use Firefox as the browser and other programs for news and mail. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
You can unmerge them. I never had Mozilla on my system and Firefox and Thunderbird work well. If you have some valuable emails in Mozilla's mailbox be sure you can access them later. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I just found some docs on this that say Large organizations that require an integrated suite (past Netscape Communicator users) should consider moving towards Mozilla 1.7. All others should consider upgrading to Firefox and Thunderbird. So, I guess the question becomes, can I unmerge Mozilla and emerge Firefox and Thunderbird? Or do they need to see Mozilla libs somewhere, since they're offered by the same org? Thanks for the input. John D -Original Message- From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:33 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail
You're welcome. I'm not that up on Tbird. I used it briefly a long time ago on another Gentoo box but didn't like it so I went to Pine and I did not use encryption either. The only other install has been on a windows box that I used when both my Gentoo boxes were dead. When I get my main box back up I intend to use Tbird. Run ufed as root and see what flags there are or check the gentoo site - they have a list. Let us know how it goes. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: Brett~ Thanks for the reply. I did find some additional information about these that tells me I should be using Firefox and Thunderbird... The USE flags on portage for thunderbird don't require gnupg, but I noticed in Mozilla mail that in order to use encrypted mail, Mozilla mail wanted it. Is there a gnupg USE flag that will emerge Thunderbird with this feature built-in? John D -Original Message- From: Brett I. Holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 1:42 PM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] browser,news,mail To me it depends on what you want/need/like. I don't like Mozilla because it has everything in one package. I like to be able to use Firefox as the browser and other programs for news and mail. On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I've just completed setting up x server and gnome (why gnome - I'm a relic of *nix and Motif and gnome sort of reminds me of the older look and feel). gnome installs mozilla by default, which has browsing, news, and mail. How does this stack up against Firefox? I've seen a lot of press about using one or the other, but I'm trying to get a feel for why. Is one better suited to Gentoo than the other? (This particular box is used primarily for business apps and remote webserver/site tweaking when needed). Thanks for the input. John D -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: PartImage and SystemRescueCd (Was: RE: [gentoo-user] what's next)
SystemRescueCD is an iso you download and burn a CD. It is gentoo based and you boot it like a live CD. You boot the CD on a system and then run partimage to backup to a partimage server. Some things I found that were a hassle. I run partimage server on a Gentoo system and back up other boxes such as my Windows boxes to the Gentoo system. The RescueCD offers partimage and partimagessl for the programs. I had to run partimagessh -L on the system I was backing up and I had to compile the Gentoo partimage to NOT use passwords. I wanted to use passwords but evidently the RescueCD is compiled to not use them so I had to change my Gentoo compile to not use passwords. I tried to get the users file working and partimage still would not authenticate. If you are backing up NTFS filesystems use the default size for the images or it won't produce a readable image. I filed a bug on this but evidently it's an upstream problem and I need to bug it there, too. On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, John Dangler wrote: I noticed that partimage (0.6.4-r3) is available on portage, but SystemRescueCd (SystemRescueCd-x86-0.2.15) isn't. a) Have you had any problems getting these up and running? b) Have you noticed any collisions with adding packages to your gentoo install after these? (dependency / reverse dependency problems) Thanks for the input, I appreciate it! John D -Original Message- From: Joe Menola [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 1:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] what's next On Sunday August 21 2005 11:24 am, John Dangler wrote: I'd like a good backup solution w/boot capability, but mondo is right out! It's too flaky at the moment. I'd like to get a backup of the system at this stage before adding a desktop environment, so that I have somewhere to go back to in case of a bork (either from software or operator error) Personally, I prefer to backup at the partition level. Partimage works quite well for me. http://www.partimage.org/ I boot with SystemRescueCd (has partimage built in) to backup and/or restore my partions. http://www.sysresccd.org/ -jm -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo equivalent to yum provides
Try equery. On Sun, 21 Aug 2005, Rennie deGraaf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 What command does one use to find what package(s) provide a particular file, given that that particular file is not present on my system? For example, I need a program called foobar, but don't know what package provides it. Under Fedora, I'd use yum provides foobar; what command should I use under Gentoo? Something like esearch foobar searches package titles, not contents. So, if I was searching for vi, I'd get all sorts of stuff that has nothing to do with the editor vi, but happens to have the substring vi in its name. And if I was searching for libfoobar.so, then I might not find any matches, since that file might be in a package called foobar. In other words, esearch foobar doesn't do what I want. Thanks, Rennie -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDCRRxIvU5mZP08HERAoINAJsEepjSgBbeVyB+YRLr0A1VNh9qjACg2ROR VaVZ1b2wCKuwKTOwuNjNmiM= =lEJD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User #188143 Remove R777 to email -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
