Re: [gentoo-user] new scanner : any advice ?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 07:02:39AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote: My trusty 12-year-old scanner is starting to show signs of age : Epson Perfection 1260 1200 x 2400 dpi ; 48-bit color Speed : 1200 dpi hi-speed : Monochrome + Color 32 ms/line Optical Resolution : 1200 dpi Max Document Size : 8.5 x 11.7 I'm inclined to get another Epson, but would consider something else. The local store (Canada Computers, College St) offers the following : snip Does anyone have experience with these or have any advice to offer ? HP is the only desktop printer/scanner/etc that I've used in years, because their Linux support is great. My home use HP Officejet Pro 8600 N911g has an embedded web server so I only need enter it's IP in a web browser and scanning is drop dead easy. You might need more, but in the past all my Linux experience with Epson hardware/drivers was negative. Check the LinuxQuestions.org HCL: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/
Re: [gentoo-user] new scanner : any advice ?
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 04:51:39PM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I have an HP inkjet which insists on starting itself up every time the power is restored, despite the presence of a perfectly good on/off button. When I complained, they said they thought it was more helpful that way. Not my idea of good support. Mine seems to start when the power fails, and I like that. No need to go push the power button when I'm nowhere near the thing and it was turned off. My idea of a good feature. :)/ ') ( \ ^^
Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs with TRIM issues
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:24:55PM +1000, Adam Carter wrote:
/* devices that don't properly handle queued TRIM commands */
Micron_M500*
Crucial_CT*M500*
Micron_M5[15]0*
Crucial_CT*M550*
Crucial_CT*MX100*
Samsung SSD 8*
from drivers/ata/libata-core.c
Then read further:
* Whitelist drives that are known to reliably return zeroes
* after TRIM.
* The intel 510 drive has buggy DRAT/RZAT. Explicitly exclude
* that model before whitelisting all other intel SSDs.
*/
{ INTEL*SSDSC2MH*,NULL, 0, },
{ Micron*,NULL, ATA_HORKAGE_ZERO_AFTER_TRIM, },
{ Crucial*, NULL, ATA_HORKAGE_ZERO_AFTER_TRIM, },
{ INTEL*SSD*, NULL, ATA_HORKAGE_ZERO_AFTER_TRIM, },
{ SSD*INTEL*, NULL, ATA_HORKAGE_ZERO_AFTER_TRIM, },
{ Samsung*SSD*, NULL, ATA_HORKAGE_ZERO_AFTER_TRIM, },
{ SAMSUNG*SSD*, NULL, ATA_HORKAGE_ZERO_AFTER_TRIM, },
{ ST[1248][0248]0[FH]*, NULL, ATA_HORKAGE_ZERO_AFTER_TRIM, }
More info:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/16/201217/trim-and-linux-tread-cautiously-and-keep-backups-handy
Also, my samsung 840 is slow (multisect is off and cant be enabled with
hdparm). Tried update the bios but the boot cd crashed on my machine (AMD
chipset related) so i will have to put it in another machine and try
again...
Samsung EVOs also have a firmware bug that causes them to slow down.
I chose long ago not to use queued TRIM (when OCZs were the rage).
From a cursory read this sounds like *only* ext4 fs. I have XFS on all my
SSDs. Two are Samsung 840 Pro Series, and 850 Pro Series. The 840 I've had
over a year and it is golden. The 850 I've had only a couple of months, and
due to work requirements it is running Windows atm. Still, there is nothing
like what I read in this article happening with either.
I also have a Micron C400 RealSSD mSATA 32GB -- no problems with it, either.
It's running Funtoo atm with VFAT /boot for UEFI, swap, all other XFS.
Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs with TRIM issues
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 03:16:16PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Also, I don't know which stable kernels have the blacklist. It doesn't look like this list is in 3.18.14 which is the most recent longterm in Gentoo (3.18.15 is out but not yet in gentoo-sources). I went ahead and disabled fstrim and discard in the meantime. mingdao@headache ~ $ uname -a Linux headache 4.0.5 #1 SMP Mon Jun 15 17:36:18 CDT 2015 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4712HQ CPU @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux This one has the blacklist, but all my kernel source comes from kernel.org
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: is your metadata safe?
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 04:09:30AM +, James wrote: Bruce Hill daddy at happypenguincomputers.com writes: Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. Your probably looking in the mirror too much. I *do*, sir. The comment is about those in government, not you.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: is your metadata safe?
On Fri, Jun 05, 2015 at 05:38:57PM +, James wrote: SS7 (The north American switching standard) where the tariffs are still enforced is where the phone meta-data comes from regardless of how it is originated. Now, All data from an ISP, Telco web company, social media or anything else can all be moved between ICPs for business (sales) purposes now via this document and many others. What's new is the Feds will be paying gargantuan sums of money to the telcos now to keep data they already maintain. Yes this is the back door that has always existed and all advanced countries use it. The agencies just buy the data from offshore sources; thus circumventing domestic restrictions. That was/is a fundamental tenet of signal intercept. Did you notice that after the fall, of the Berlin wall (nov 1989), the good ole USA needed a new boogey man to justify spending billions and billions to keep us secure? The Internet security business opened in 1990 via public access to the Internet. Soon it will be those evil Chinese. Taxpayers pay; so the politicians and can play. There has to be a boogey man, to justify spending billions on keeping us safe. The Onion with strong encryption does delay the process. But there's too much advanced hardware available if they really want to decipher a particular stream of data. Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Re: [gentoo-user] Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 09:01:18AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:39:29AM +0200, Paul Klos wrote: Hi Andrew, You might be interested in these settings (from about:config): browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll browser.urlbar.doubleClickSelectsAll You can configure what happens when you click in the address bar. I have no idea why the defaults on win/linux are different, though, Cheers, Paul Would be nice to have it for the Search bar, also. Maybe this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416037 Just found by eXPerience that Pale Moon does both, be default.
Re: [gentoo-user] Tips for fresh install with GRUB2+RAID1+LVM2
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 12:20:29PM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: No no no! LiLo, on a six year old machine actually works well. It does exactly what it says on the packet, i.e. it boots up the machine, and nothing more. I use LiLo, mainly to avoid the complexities of Grub. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany) ack
Re: [gentoo-user] Question for users of the Firefox browser
On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 11:39:29AM +0200, Paul Klos wrote: Op zondag 17 mei 2015 13:52:21 schreef Andrew Lowe: Hi all, I've been using Firefox for ages and something struck me recently as a bit odd. In the Windows version, if I click up into the address or search boxes, the existing contents are highlighted and if I begin typing, the existing text is deleted and what I'm typing becomes the contents. On the Linux version, under KDE, it doesn't. I have to click into the appropriate edit box, highlight the contents and start typing or hit either home/end and then start deleting before typing my new URL. If, for example, the existing text happens to be a google search string, this can be quite a bit of text to delete. So my question, I suppose, is multipart: 1) Is this by design? Is this the normal behaviour? 2) Have I set a USE flag wrong somewhere that causes this behaviour? 3) How do people get around the problem I mentioned above regarding long URL's, such as a Google search results? Any thoughts, greatly appreciated, Andrew Hi Andrew, You might be interested in these settings (from about:config): browser.urlbar.clickSelectsAll browser.urlbar.doubleClickSelectsAll You can configure what happens when you click in the address bar. I have no idea why the defaults on win/linux are different, though, Cheers, Paul Would be nice to have it for the Search bar, also. Maybe this bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416037
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:51:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On my workstation the day this option came out, */* abi_x86_32 in package.use went reasonably well. x11-libs/cairo-1.12.18-r1 failed, but maybe that problem is the 32-bit mesa. Going to rebuild it and try. There's a comment in the ebuild about a bug for cairo. IIRC USE=gtkstyle and USE=qt4 don't play nice together. This in package.use fixed it for me: =x11-libs/cairo-1.12.0 -qt4 For me this did it: 5558 2015-03-31 05:50:40 emerge -ajv mesa 5559 2015-03-31 06:47:43 eselect opengl list (only option was [1] xorg-x11 *) 5560 2015-03-31 06:47:57 eselect opengl set xorg-x11 5561 2015-03-31 06:49:19 emerge -ajv x11-libs/cairo after which I did the usual: 5562 2015-03-31 06:55:14 emerge -aDjuv --changed-use --with-bdeps=y @world and, walah ... the cairo syrup is gone!
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving from no-multilib to (true) multilib
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:20:23AM +0100, Mick wrote: Given that the emul-linux-x86 package sets are now deprecated and we can now with USE=abi_x86_32 emerge our own 32bit libraries where needed, is it now easier to move from a no-multilib to a multilib environment, or will it still require a complete reinstall? -- Regards, Mick On my workstation the day this option came out, */* abi_x86_32 in package.use went reasonably well. x11-libs/cairo-1.12.18-r1 failed, but maybe that problem is the 32-bit mesa. Going to rebuild it and try. On another box it's just getting that same solution and rebuilding some: Jobs: 28 of 204 completeLoad avg: 4.14, 4.57, 3.67 Hopefully it doesn't break too badly. That's the wife's PC, and there's not much time to fix it this morning.
Re: [gentoo-user] Reconstruct package.use
On March 14, 2015 at 6:12 PM Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: It took 10 years but I've finally done something monumentally stupid in Gentoo: I delete package.use and have no backup Is there any easy way to recover what was in it? I'm busy doing it the long way round - repeatedly running emerge world, get past the blocking USE, then see all the flags that portage thinks changed. I wonder if there might be an easier way that I don't know of. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com You have lost nothing, thanks to gentoolkit. Please run enalyze rebuild use and you will get package.use.test which will be the difference between default USE flags and yours. Then mv package.use.test /etc/portage/package.use will put you back in business. Happy Penguin Computers`) 805 Grant Street ( \ Bessemer, AL 35020 ^^ Cell: 205-535-0347 support at happypenguincomputers dot com http://www.happypenguincomputers.com
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 06:43:26PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday, December 30, 2014 08:11:15 AM Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: Can you offer any technical suggestions as for what to check? Do you leave the messages on the mailserver? In that case, ensure your POP3-client keeps a list of message-ids (UIDL) and only downloads messages that haven't been downloaded before. I don't know if there is an equivalent for mutt as I don't use that. -- Joost Thanks for this reply. That one original message didn't get removed from the mailserver, and I hadn't scrolled down quite far enough to see it. Once it was removed, it seems to have stopped repeating; and a host of other messages to the list that hadn't arrived came through (especially all the replies in this thread which weren't previously seen in mutt). -- Bruce
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
On December 27, 2014 at 10:19 AM Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: Please stop insults and offensive language. I just sent replies to the list, this is verifiable by mail headers. My apologies to you sir. If you have mail problems, check your MTA or whatever you are using to receive e-mail from this list. As you can see, other people don't have this problems. On my workstation mail is POP3 using mutt and mail-mta/msmtp is the MTA. Just my guess: greylisting is broken (or had a temporary lag) on mail server you are using. There is no greylisting/blacklisting being done. I checked mail at the web interface for the hosting company, and there was no repeat of messages here; only in Mutt. Now there is another account doing the same thing. Can you offer any technical suggestions as for what to check? Best regards, Andrew Savchenko Kindest regards, Bruce
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 06:20:05PM +0300, Andrew Savchenko wrote: Hi, On Tue, 23 Dec 2014 15:22:26 +0100 Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Anyone here running ceph / http://ceph.com/ on gentoo? As server(s) or client or ... ? I am learning about this right now and currently on my way to a first small test cluster. Very interesting possibilities ! We used it about a year ago for our infrastructure (backup and live sync of HA systems), obviously both servers and clients were used, both on Gentoo. We stopped this because of numerous kernel panics, not to mention that it was quite slow even after tuning. So we switch to another solution for data sync and backups: clsync. (It was developed from scratch for our needs, this is not a filesystem, but may be considered as more powerful alternative to lsyncd.) Though this was a year ago or so. Your mileage may vary and it is likely that during this year stability was improved. Ceph is very promising by both design and capabilities. Best regards, Andrew Savchenko Andrew, Can you answer why my email client has HUNDREDS of the same reply from you in this thread? I've never seen this behavior in my life. Thanks
Re: [gentoo-user] ceph on gentoo?
To whoever controls this list... I just arrived home to find my mailbox spammed with hundreds of messages from this luser Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org What is the explanation for this please?
Re: [gentoo-user] *** STOP misuing this list for personal attacks ***
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 12:29:20PM -0500, Dale wrote: Mateusz Kowalczyk wrote: On 22/03/14 14:48, Tanstaafl wrote: On 3/22/2014 5:06 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: Please don't use this list for personal quarrels of any kind! If someone says something you don't like - just ignore it/him. If someone insults you, reply by personal mail only. If someone says something which is*technically* wrong, just correct the facts without getting personal. I don't read every message but who is personally attacking someone? He's probably referring to my factual statement that Tom was/is acting like an arrogant prick. Lots of people confuse factual statements with personal attacks. That said, I've never been know for being tactful... ;) Go and solve this shit off-list. I'm not following the systemd thread but over the last few days but your (plural) quarrels have become far too big in number to ignore. Create a separate thread if you need it so that people can ignore it without missing actual on-topic messages. Will, since Tom finally got the point and changed his email program to not CC his replies, it seems to me that Tanstaaf, others and myself were right. It may have been off topic but if Tom would have just listened in the beginning, there wouldn't have to be so many off topic replies. Just saying. Dale I can't quite believe Tom did that. I've even stopped replying to any thread Tom participates in, because when I kindly asked him to Stop Cc'ing me (as old and rude a habit as HTML email and top-posting), he wasted my time with more than one arrogant reply, beating the dead horse(s) about why his way is correct and the rest of the world needs to change it's preferences to get in line. It's my sincere hope that someone's persistence hammered some common sense and email etiquette into his attitude. In fact, this list is so generally useless and filled with immature jerks going on senselessly about crap that I rarely read it anymore, and ^D is my largest function on this mailbox. -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions about History file
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 07:10:10AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Hi all, I routinely am logged into a server with multiple consoles (I log in with one (the same) regular user, then su - to root). This morning I tried to grep roots .bash_history for a command I ran some time ago, and it wasn't there. I know I ran it, so I'd like to configure my bash history so this doesn't happen again. Thinking about it a bit, the first issue I see is... when I am running multiple consoles, each one having been started by first logging in as my normal user, then su - to root, how does this affect the .bash_history file? It seems like there would be a collision of some kind, maybe result in the last one to log out 'winning' (that .bash_history is the one that is saved/stored) or something? Maybe... would it be possible to use different regular users, then when each one does the su - to root, have it create a separate .bash_history file based on the original username? That would be perfect. I was also considering something like setting HISTSIZE=###, then adding something to the logrotate.conf file to start rotating the history file, so I don't lose anything - but I'm not sure if that would even work. So, I'm interested in how others do this... especially on a system that has multiple users managing it. Thx... Charles Long ago living in a country far away on computers long since abandoned, some friendly sysadmin helped me set this up. For quite some time this has been on my TO-DO wishlist, so your query caused me to search the internet: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/088 Hope this helps you and I both append our history for all open terminals. Bruce -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] USB permission/owner - change not allowed as root
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 09:06:38AM -0700, Joseph wrote: Thank you for the hints, here is the output of: tail -f /var/log/messages My line if fstab is: /dev/sdb1 /media/stickautonoauto,rw,user and this USB below file are mounted as root:root (not joseph:users) Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.029376] usb 8-1: new high-speed USB device number 33 using xhci_hcd Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.042189] usb 8-1: default language 0x0409 Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043442] usb 8-1: udev 33, busnum 8, minor = 928 Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043445] usb 8-1: New USB device found, idVendor=058f, idProduct=6366 Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043447] usb 8-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043448] usb 8-1: Product: Mass Storage Device Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043450] usb 8-1: Manufacturer: Generic Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043451] usb 8-1: SerialNumber: 058F63666433 Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043515] usb 8-1: usb_probe_device Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043517] usb 8-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043614] usb 8-1: Successful Endpoint Configure command Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043689] usb 8-1: adding 8-1:1.0 (config #1, interface 0) Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043722] usb-storage 8-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043726] usb-storage 8-1:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043728] usb-storage 8-1:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected Dec 31 09:02:16 syscon7 kernel: [231771.043787] scsi41 : usb-storage 8-1:1.0 Dec 31 09:02:17 syscon7 kernel: [231772.175846] scsi 41:0:0:0: Direct-Access Multiple Card Reader 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 Dec 31 09:02:17 syscon7 kernel: [231772.176055] sd 41:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.836523] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] 62333952 512-byte logical blocks: (31.9 GB/29.7 GiB) Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.836932] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.836934] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.837316] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.837318] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.838812] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.838815] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.846512] sdb: sdb1 Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.848062] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.848065] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through Dec 31 09:02:18 syscon7 kernel: [231772.848067] sd 41:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk Dec 31 09:02:25 syscon7 udisksd[3624]: Mounted /dev/sdb1 (system) at /media/stick on behalf of uid 1000 -- Joseph The blkid output would have shown this device, it's UUID, and filesystem. At any rate, for my flash drives I want them mounted with perms for rw for user mingdao, so I put something like this in /etc/fstab: baruch ~ # blkid /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdc1: LABEL=AMD UUID=CA00-9136 TYPE=vfat baruch ~ # grep CA00-9136 /etc/fstab UUID=CA00-9136 /AMDvfat noauto,users,rw,gid=1000,dmask=0002,fmask=0113 0 0 Different for NTFS, of course. And btw, I don't automount anything anything that is plugged in. Just my preference. As Alan mentioned, man mount would be a good read; as well as man fstab. And, did I give you a link to an article on file permissions? The difference between user and users mean simply that with user only the user who mounted the device can unmount it; with users any user can unmount it, not just the user who mounted it. Cheers, Bruce -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] USB permission/owner - change not allowed as root
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 07:42:33PM -0700, Joseph wrote: After recent upgrade when I mount my USB and try as root: chown joseph:users /media/stick/Ancient-Electricity_new.ppt chown: changing ownership of ‘/media/stick/Ancient-Electricity_new.ppt’: Operation not permitted file ownership is: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 5796864 Mar 6 2013 Ancient-Electricity_new.ppt The thread kinda zig-zagged off on me, so hope you don't mind a post here. Perhaps this guide would be as nice a read for you as it was for me. It brings back memories as I started using Linux in June, 2003, just before he wrote it: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Security/Quick_and_Dirty_Guide_to_Linux_File_Permissions Second, please issue blkid and give the line for this USB device. Cheers, Bruce -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS static ports - driving me crazy...
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 09:27:19PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Ok, my google-fu has failed me... I've found a few sites that describe how to set static ports for NFS mounting remote shares (I use iptables for both inbound AND outbound, and it is the outbound I'm having trouble with). Why don't you just use NFSv4? NFSv4 was designed to interact well with firewalls. Jörg It just so happens that I'm setting up NFS atm using this guide: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NFSv4 Let us know if the info there helps. -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] NFS static ports - driving me crazy...
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:04:29PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: It just so happens that I'm setting up NFS atm using this guide: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NFSv4 This info unfortunately misses the port number: 2049 What do you mean by misses the port number: 2049? It's covered in the Troubleshooting section, as well as in man nfs. -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 24.1.1 - and PFD viewer UGLY fonts
On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 07:38:00PM -0700, Joseph wrote: I just upgraded to Firefox-24.1.1 and when an online pdf file is generated some ugly view pops up that is using monospace fonts impossible to read and it looks ugly on a print out. Is there a solution to it? How about giving a link to that file? How does this one look? http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/acrobat/pdfs/adobe-acrobat-xi-pdf-sanitization-remove-hidden-data-from-pdf-files-tutorial-ue.pdf Cheers, Bruce -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] metasploit jumping into emerge -uDN world
On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 01:54:48PM -0200, Zhu wrote: Most likely metasploit itself is in world. You can check you worldfile with your favourite editor (/var/lib/portage/world). It should also be printed bold in the emerge output if your terminal supports it Yeah, metasploit is in there. Is it safe just remove him from the file? Yes -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:53:16AM -0700, Joseph wrote: I'm upgrading the system and running out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk * Checking for at least 18 gigabytes disk space at /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/temp ... [ !! ] * There is NOT at least 18 gigabytes disk space at /var/tmp/portage/net-libs/webkit-gtk-2.0.4/temp df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on rootfs 28G 16G 11G 61% / /dev/root28G 16G 11G 61% / tmpfs 506M 540K 505M 1% /run udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev shm 506M 0 506M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda484G 51G 29G 65% /home How do I tell the system to use /home partition to use for compiling temp tiles? It appears to only require such a ridiculous amount if you build with debugging flags. -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 08:44:46AM -0700, Joseph wrote:
It appears to only require such a ridiculous amount if you build with
debugging flags.
This would be an easy solution but debug flags are off:
[ebuild N ] net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.8.3-r300:3 USE=geoloc gstreamer
introspection jit spell webgl (-aqua) -coverage -debug -doc {-test} -webkit2
7,631 kB
It appears that only libproxy-0.4.10-r1 needs webkit-gtk-1.6:3
net-libs/libproxy-0.4.10-r1 (webkit ? =net-libs/webkit-gtk-1.6:3)
You might need to sync your system before emerging to get the latest version:
mingdao@baruch ~ $ eshowkw net-libs/webkit-gtk
Keywords for net-libs/webkit-gtk:
| | u |
| a a p s | n |
| l m h i m m p s p | u s| r
| p d a p a 6 i p c 3 a x | s l| e
| h 6 r p 6 8 p p 6 9 s r 8 | e o| p
| a 4 m a 4 k s c 4 0 h c 6 | d t| o
--+---++---
1.8.3-r200 | + + + o + o o + + o o + + | o 2| gentoo
[I]1.8.3-r201 | + + + o + o o + + o o ~ + | o | gentoo
--+---++---
1.8.3-r300 | + + + o + o o + + o o + + | o 3| gentoo
1.10.2-r300 | ~ ~ + o ~ o o ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | o | gentoo
--+---++---
[I]2.0.4 | ~ + ~ o ~ o o ~ ~ o o ~ + | o 3/25 | gentoo
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Re: [gentoo-user] out of disk space to compile webkit-gtk
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 11:52:56AM -0700, Joseph wrote:
I just did, but it doesn't help webkit-gtk-2.0.4 still asking 18GB disk space
to compile.
Checking for sufficient disk space to build ${PN} with debugging CFLAGS
None here and 2.0.4 has built with 7G, and on the other box with 12G.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi, problem, problem, problem
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 07:17:55PM +, Mick wrote: On Thursday 19 Dec 2013 15:18:15 the wrote: On 12/19/13 17:50, Bruce Hill wrote: I *believe* if you have the driver built into your kernel: CONFIG_IPW2200=y then you need to have the firmware listed with these 2 lines: CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE=ipw2200-bss.fw CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware/ (Something similar to the CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE line. I don't use ipw2200 and that might not be the proper way. You said the file is there, you checked, so you should know the proper path and syntax.) iirc I tried specifying extra firmware but it didn't load. Have a look at the section Code Listing 2.10: Enabling external firmware here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-sparc.xml?part=1chap=7 Don't forget to recompile and *boot* the newly configured kernel after you do this. Good post, Mick. It seems the amd64 Handbook is neutered concerning this. Perhaps someone decided genkernel was a substitute for properly configuring a custom kernel? If so, they should spend a day in #gentoo on IRC to help all those poor blokes arriving with failure due to genkernel. Cheers, Bruce -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge: 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 04:33:13PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: One of my systems has suddenly started displaying a lot of error messages any time any package is emerged: Emerging (1 of 1) x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-9.18 * rxvt-unicode-9.18.tar.bz2 SHA256 SHA512 WHIRLPOOL size ;-) ... [ ok ] ERROR: ld.so: object 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. Unpacking source... Unpacking rxvt-unicode-9.18.tar.bz2 to /home/portage/tmp/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-9.18/work Source unpacked in /home/portage/tmp/portage/x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-9.18/work ERROR: ld.so: object 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libsandbox.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. [...] Googling that error yeielded one suggestion that the sandbox package was broken and needed to be re-emerged. I did that, but it didn't help. I also tried a revdep-rebuild, and it didn't find anything that needed rebuilding. According to http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Knowledge_Base:Object_libsandbox.so_from_LD_PRELOAD_cannot_be_preloaded that message should never occur except right after a particular message about SELinux security labels. Any ideas why this would suddenly start happening? Can you post the entire build.log? Which kernel version are you running during this build? -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi, problem, problem, problem
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 02:19:17PM +0100, Florian HEGRON wrote: This means that driver can not find ipw2200-bss.fw file (probably part of sys-firmware/ipw2200-firmware) to load it to wireless card RAM chip. Ensure that you have that file, usually it is localed in /lib/firmware. This file is present, I checked. How did you build this driver? I mean as module or it is build in ([M] or [*]). If it is build in it is possible that root file system is not mounted when driver loads. Try to build it as module. Regards, Ivan Built-in and I don't have initramfs. I will test with module compilation and may be with an initramfs. What do you think ? I *believe* if you have the driver built into your kernel: CONFIG_IPW2200=y then you need to have the firmware listed with these 2 lines: CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE=ipw2200-bss.fw CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware/ (Something similar to the CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE line. I don't use ipw2200 and that might not be the proper way. You said the file is there, you checked, so you should know the proper path and syntax.) But if you have the driver built as a module in your kernel: CONFIG_IPW2200=m then you odn't have to have those 2 lines above, and the firmware will get loaded properly. On my systems I have drivers requiring firmware as modules (m) in my kernel, and not firmware directory listed in the kernel config. Sounds like the easiest thing for you is to try CONFIG_IPW2200=m in your kernel. When you boot with it as a module, issue: dmesg | grep firmware and you should have a line similar to: [6.007039] usb 1-2: r8712u: Loading firmware from rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin which would match your ipw2200-bss.fw You don't need an initramfs just to load a module for a wireless chipset. The initramfs is only needed to load modules required to boot your system. Cheers, Bruce -- List replies preferred. A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote: In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` What does that guys sig say - List replies preferred. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: Reply-To Munging Considered Harmful (was: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean)
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 05:49:30PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2013 09:24:58 -0600 Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: From: Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:34:14AM +0200, Thanasis wrote: In my system /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source is a symbolic link to /usr/src/linux-`uname -r` What does that guys sig say - List replies preferred. Where does it say that? By whom? His name is Duncan, iirc. Thus, the simple and safe assumption that the person is not subscribed. When we ass*u*me... Why not ass*u*me someone reads and replies because they're subscribed to the list? And if not, they let you know: CC me, I'm not on the list. -- canonical You've beaten me up with your opinion and ass*u*mption before. Why hijack a thread to do so again? -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 06:15:59PM +0200, Thanasis wrote: What does that guys sig say - List replies preferred. My sig? Where is that? It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope you don't get as offended as some other person. Cheers, Bruce -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 06:48:33PM +0100, Tom Wijsman wrote: It was a soft hint, asking you to not CC me, I'm on the list. Hope you don't get as offended as some other person. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Assume_good_faith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ben/Assume_the_presence_of_a_belly-button -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 09:30:52PM +0200, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Upgrade Sanitize sources If you just want to rebuild the current kernel, you need sometimes to sanitize the kernel sources: |root # ||make distclean| Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config file prior to running 'make distclean'. Lesson learnt. :'( There should be a .config in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/source/.config and if you look under /lib/modules/ you should see a directory for each kernel version you've installed with a .config. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 08:57:08PM +, Markos Chandras wrote: You could get your running config using zcat /proc/config.gz .config Only if you enabled: CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y in your running kernel. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 04:47:03PM -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I have never used wicd, so I can't say exactly what it's the problem; but I was under the impression that wicd is basically dead. Its last release was more than a year and a half ago. I haven't read the other posts after this one, so apologies in advance if this has been answered. In my previous distro I worked on wicd with Adam and David (upstream). Adam left the project about 2 years ago. David asked for help about a year ago, and no one came. Right now wicd can't use nl80211, and that's the future. It would need extensive rebuilding, and it appears wicd is going to die (though it's not just yet). David is not actively working on wicd atm. Personally I'm looking at connman. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] recent trouble with wicd and systemd (non-global ctrl_ifname)
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 08:05:14PM -0500, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: thanks but I had done that and the command is simply /usr/sbin/wicd --no-daemon Perhaps relevant is Type=dbus Canek points out that wicd has had no new releases. Perhaps I should switch to networkmanager. I will try that tomorrow. Thank you both, allan Again, I haven't looked at the thread, and don't use systemd, either, but wicd needs to start in daemon. wicd - wireless connection daemon implementation -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 07:59:41PM +0100, hasufell wrote: The problem is now: How do i set CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE in menuconfig? Maybe i'm completely blind... Thanks in advance for any help, Mosh lol, done! As i thought...i was blind :D You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:08:54PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it. xconfig doesn't turn on options that aren't there in menuconfig ... you just might be able to navigate xconfig's interface better. Any time you can't see how to enable a kernel option, just search for it and look at the Selected By field to see what you need to turn it on: Symbol: ZLIB_DEFLATE [=y] Type : tristate Defined at lib/Kconfig:198 Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] My personal preference is nconfig ... easy to navigate, nice colors on black bgd. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 12:53:39AM +0100, Michael Rühmann wrote: mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? well, you won't find it in menuconfig. Or at least I couldn't. You can reach that option in xconfig. On the other hand ZLIB_DEFLATE is turned on by a douzend of other options that it is VERY probable you never have to touch it. exactly.. i couldn't find it in menuconfig. The answer was to set CONFIG_CRYPTO_DEFLATE=y manually in .config. After building the new kernel, CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE was pulled in and spl compiled without any problem. YDIW ... it's never a good idea to edit .config by hand. Always use one of the make someconfig commands. There is nothing difficult about that :-) -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:47:44PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 13:21:42 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: You could at least say how you did it. *sigh* maybe even add the kernel part to https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ZFS mingdao@baruch ~ $ zgrep CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE /proc/config.gz CONFIG_ZLIB_DEFLATE=y What *is* so difficult about that? Nothing, but you've not answered the question. you have only shown that you do have the option set, not how you set it. -- Neil Bothwick There's a fine line between fishing and standing on the shore looking like an idiot. As per another post, but my mouse paste came up short. Let me try again: Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] ) || PSTORE [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] || CRYPTO_DEFLATE [=y] CRYPTO [=y] || CRYPTO_ZLIB [=y] CRYPTO [=y] Which combination depends upon your use case. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] ZFS on Linux (spl build error)
On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 01:13:06AM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Any time you can't see how to enable a kernel option, just search for it and look at the Selected By field to see what you need to turn it on: Symbol: ZLIB_DEFLATE [=y] Type : tristate Defined at lib/Kconfig:198 Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y] and you are missing half of it: Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y]) || CRYPTO_DEFLATE [=y] CRYPTO [=y] || CRYPTO_ZLIB [=m] CRYPTO [=y] oh look: crypto_zlib turns it on too. My personal preference is nconfig ... easy to navigate, nice colors on black bgd. but it seems that nconfig is hiding information from you, that xconfig delivers. No, it was 100% user error. Trying to do 14 things at once, and no matter what any human says, when we multi-task we don't do *any* of the 1 tasks as well as we do exec task1 ; exec task2 ; exec task3 ; done Here's what I should have pasted: Selected by: PPP_DEFLATE [=n] NETDEVICES [=y] PPP [=n] || BTRFS_FS [=n] BLOCK [=y] || JFFS2_ZLIB [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] JFFS2_FS [=n] || LOGFS [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] (MTD [=n] || BLOCK [=y]) || PSTORE [=n] MISC_FILESYSTEMS [=y] || CRYPTO_DEFLATE [=y] CRYPTO [=y] || CRYPTO_ZLIB [=y] CRYPTO [=y] -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 05:52:36PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: The only thing portage can do is assume you want everything to work under all installed interpreters. If you want to restrict the list of installed interpreters, use the relevant settings in make.conf. Python has PYTHON_TARGETS and SINGLE_PYTHON_TARGET for this, I don't know what the ruby equivalent is. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com mingdao@workstation ~ $ grep ruby /etc/portage/make.conf RUBY_TARGETS=ruby20 Can't imagine you didn't know that. Ruby hater? :D -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Routine update wants to install 3 version of Ruby + 50 others
On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 10:33:31PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: mingdao@workstation ~ $ grep ruby /etc/portage/make.conf RUBY_TARGETS=ruby20 Can't imagine you didn't know that. Ruby hater? :D You could say that: $ grep -ir -C1 ruby /etc/portage /etc/portage/package.use/package.use- # I see no need for lvm thin volumes. And it needs thin-provisioning-tools /etc/portage/package.use/package.use: # which needs ruby. I do not want ruby. /etc/portage/package.use/package.use- sys-fs/lvm2 -thin But the real reason I don't have ruby is I don't have a use for it I detest python, also, but there's no way w/out it. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 06:07:01AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: And for the record (you didn't specifically say so), are you in agreement that cp -a /usr/. /usr.tmp/. will accomplish the exact same thing as the rsync command I was planning on using? There are reasons why rsync is better than cp. The best one IMO is that rysnc will not copy a corrupt file, while cp will. And rsync will tell you about the corrupt file. You have so many questions about rsync, and different opinions thrown at you. Why do you not read man rsync and learn about it? This man page is thorough, easy to read, and explains it's usage by examples. Cheers, Bruce -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 11:35:29AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-12-06 8:13 AM, Bruce Hill da...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: There are reasons why rsync is better than cp. The best one IMO is that rysnc will not copy a corrupt file, while cp will. And rsync will tell you about the corrupt file. Interesting and a good reason to use rsync over cp... if true... are you certain of this? Yes, absolutely. Which is one reason I suggested you rean man rsync. I don't mean to be unkind, but there have been so many conflicting opinions in your thread. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 06:47:01AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote: Yeah, when it comes to servers, I'm more of a wimp than not... but being careful and conservative on my servers has saved me more times than I can count, so I'm ok with it... ;) I have one server with separate /usr that's in LVM. It only gets rebooted for kernel changes, or power loss greater than USB. The latter condition happened two days ago, but everything worked when it was booted again. I've got an initramfs on my laptop with everything on one LVM, so writing one for that server wouldn't be impossible. My only issue is having initramfs forced on us because of other people's bad ideas. And my server is setup the way it is for a lot of reasons, security being one. It has: o@server ~ $ df -hT │link/ether a0:88:b4:54:33:04 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on │inet 192.168.11.7/24 brd 192.168.11.255 scope global wlan0 rootfs rootfs2.0G 116M 1.9G 6% / │ valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever /dev/rootxfs 2.0G 116M 1.9G 6% / │baruch ~ # ip addr devtmpfs devtmpfs 3.0G 0 3.0G 0% /dev │1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN tmpfstmpfs 603M 464K 603M 1% /run │link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 shm tmpfs 3.0G 0 3.0G 0% /dev/shm │inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo /dev/mapper/system-var xfs10G 721M 9.3G 8% /var │ valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever /dev/mapper/system-usr xfs10G 4.8G 5.2G 49% /usr │2: dummy0: BROADCAST,NOARP mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN /dev/mapper/system-home xfs 6.0G 5.5G 580M 91% /home │link/ether 6e:83:0f:ef:52:15 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff /dev/mapper/storage-photos xfs 500G 19G 482G 4% /photos │3: eth0: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000 /dev/mapper/storage-backups xfs 500G 166G 335G 34% /backups │link/ether 00:21:cc:5e:c3:12 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff /dev/mapper/storage-offload fuseblk 300G 341M 300G 1% /offload │4: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000 /dev/mapper/storage-peterxfs25G 1.7G 24G 7% /peter │link/ether a0:88:b4:54:33:04 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff /dev/mapper/storage-jeremiah xfs10G 3.4G 6.7G 34% /jeremiah so moving /usr into / isn't even an option. So perhaps one day it will get an initramfs ... or go back to devfs. :D -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Merging separate /usr back into / - one last time...
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 11:06:16AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: mingdao@server ~ $ df -hT │link/ether a0:88:b4:54:33:04 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on │inet 192.168.11.7/24 brd 192.168.11.255 scope global wlan0 rootfs rootfs2.0G 116M 1.9G 6% / │ valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever /dev/rootxfs 2.0G 116M 1.9G 6% / │baruch ~ # ip addr devtmpfs devtmpfs 3.0G 0 3.0G 0% /dev │1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN tmpfstmpfs 603M 464K 603M 1% /run │link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 shm tmpfs 3.0G 0 3.0G 0% /dev/shm │inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo /dev/mapper/system-var xfs10G 721M 9.3G 8% /var │ valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever /dev/mapper/system-usr xfs10G 4.8G 5.2G 49% /usr │2: dummy0: BROADCAST,NOARP mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN /dev/mapper/system-home xfs 6.0G 5.5G 580M 91% /home │link/ether 6e:83:0f:ef:52:15 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff /dev/mapper/storage-photos xfs 500G 19G 482G 4% /photos │3: eth0: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000 /dev/mapper/storage-backups xfs 500G 166G 335G 34% /backups │link/ether 00:21:cc:5e:c3:12 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff /dev/mapper/storage-offload fuseblk 300G 341M 300G 1% /offload │4: wlan0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP qlen 1000 /dev/mapper/storage-peterxfs25G 1.7G 24G 7% /peter │link/ether a0:88:b4:54:33:04 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff /dev/mapper/storage-jeremiah xfs10G 3.4G 6.7G 34% /jeremiah Note to self: cp/paste from tmux isn't working as expected ... read moar docs -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict when trying to emerge xorg-server-1.14.3-r2
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:23:43AM -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: Hi, emerge --oneshot xorg-server throws this error message: !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: x11-base/xorg-server:0 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.13.4-r1::gentoo, installed) pulled in by x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-2.1.20-r1::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau-1.0.9::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.8.1::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.4::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.7.0::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0::gentoo, installed) (x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot) Why isn't xorg-server simply updated and the drivers re-emerged because of the sub-slot changes? Thanks, nick Welcome to the flipping subslot nightmare of 2013. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] slot conflict when trying to emerge xorg-server-1.14.3-r2
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:23:43AM -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: Hi, emerge --oneshot xorg-server throws this error message: !!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled !!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict: x11-base/xorg-server:0 (x11-base/xorg-server-1.13.4-r1::gentoo, installed) pulled in by x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-nv-2.1.20-r1::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-nouveau-1.0.9::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.8.1::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa-2.3.3::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.4::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.7.0::gentoo, installed) x11-base/xorg-server:0/1.13.4= required by (x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.9.0::gentoo, installed) (x11-base/xorg-server-1.14.3-r2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by (no parents that aren't satisfied by other packages in this slot) Why isn't xorg-server simply updated and the drivers re-emerged because of the sub-slot changes? Thanks, nick Make sure you've synced, run emerge --info --oneshot xorg-server and post. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Radeon Firmware?
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:59:41PM +0100, Elias Diem wrote: Hi all I've got a Radeon graphics card and I don't know which firmware to use. My model doesn't seem to be listed on https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Radeon#Firmware Here is the output from lspci: output 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Trinity [Radeon HD 7560D] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 1850 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] I/O ports at f000 [size=256] Memory at ff70 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K] Expansion ROM at unassigned [disabled] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010 ? Kernel driver in use: radeon /output What firmware would you use? If you have CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m, and CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware/, then the kernel will pick the right firmware automatically, without having to name the microcode in CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE at all. Build your kernel that way and see which firmware shows up issuing: dmesg | grep -i firmware -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox not killing processes on close
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:44:10AM -0600, Dale wrote: On 10/11/13 at 08:07pm, Walter Dnes wrote: Try this hack :) $ ps -ef | grep [u]rxvt yohan 3559 1 0 11:50 ?00:00:00 urxvt yohan 3667 1 0 11:52 ?00:00:00 urxvt That one didn't return anything. I got plenty of output without the grep tho. Sort of close to what I usually get with ps aux. He intended for you to do: ps -ef | grep [f]irefox -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Radeon Firmware?
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 04:03:23PM +0100, Elias Diem wrote: Hi Bruce On 2013-11-11, Bruce Hill wrote: If you have CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m, and CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware/, then the kernel will pick the right firmware automatically, without having to name the microcode in CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE at all. Yes, thank you. It worked. Build your kernel that way and see which firmware shows up issuing: dmesg | grep -i firmware Unfortunately I can't figure it out. 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' doesn't return anything. 'dmesg | grep -i radeon' returns: snip [0.030492] smpboot: CPU0: AMD A8-5500B APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (fam: 15, model: 10, stepping: 01) [4.600599] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. [4.601157] radeon :00:01.0: VRAM: 768M 0x - 0x2FFF (768M used) [4.601159] radeon :00:01.0: GTT: 512M 0x3000 - 0x4FFF [4.601693] [drm] radeon: 768M of VRAM memory ready [4.601694] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready. [4.881482] radeon :00:01.0: WB enabled [4.881485] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x3c00 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc00 [4.882218] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 5 use gpu addr 0x00075a18 and cpu addr 0xc900114b5a18 [4.882220] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 1 use gpu addr 0x3c04 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc04 [4.88] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 2 use gpu addr 0x3c08 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc08 [4.882223] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr 0x3c0c and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc0c [4.882225] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 4 use gpu addr 0x3c10 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc10 [4.882245] radeon :00:01.0: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X [4.882255] radeon :00:01.0: radeon: using MSI. [4.882534] [drm] radeon: irq initialized. [5.023269] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors [5.044982] [drm] radeon: power management initialized [5.165005] fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device [5.231602] radeon :00:01.0: fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device [5.231604] radeon :00:01.0: registered panic notifier [5.231608] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.33.0 20080528 for :00:01.0 on minor 0 /snip Hi Elias, I don't have an APU, but found this: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx It's not supported by the open source driver, but you can find it in portage through ati-drivers-13.11_beta6 -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox not killing processes on close
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:28:19AM -0800, Edward M wrote: On 11/10/2013 1:38 PM, Dale wrote: When it does not kill correctly and I try to restart that session, I get the error that the session is already running. Hello,:-) / /The following article explains how to deal with Firefox is already running message.hope it helps out Run *strace -o ~/ff.strace firefox* and then investigated the strace file. My hunch was that one or other file lock wasn't being relinquished properly, perhaps from an earlier crashed firefox process. I grepped through the log, looking for file opens, and eventually found this:/ open(/home/matthew/.mozilla/firefox/2z7l4uii.default/.parentlock, O_WRONLY|O/CREAT|O/TRUNC, 0666) = 4/ Bingo! I checked; and even with no firefox process running, this file existed. It was an empty lock file, so I deleted it. That did the trick --- now FireFox runs again! Couldn't you just issue: find .mozilla/firefox/ -iname '*.parentlock' 2/dev/null rather than running strace? -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Radeon Firmware?
On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 05:41:55PM +0100, Marc Joliet wrote: Am Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:03:23 +0100 schrieb Elias Diem pub.li...@webconect.ch: Hi Bruce On 2013-11-11, Bruce Hill wrote: If you have CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=m, and CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR=/lib/firmware/, then the kernel will pick the right firmware automatically, without having to name the microcode in CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE at all. Yes, thank you. It worked. Build your kernel that way and see which firmware shows up issuing: dmesg | grep -i firmware Unfortunately I can't figure it out. 'dmesg | grep -i firmware' doesn't return anything. You need to grep for microcode, not firmware. On my system I see: % dmesg |grep -i microcode [ 18.890581] [drm] Loading RV730 Microcode 'dmesg | grep -i radeon' returns: snip [0.030492] smpboot: CPU0: AMD A8-5500B APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics (fam: 15, model: 10, stepping: 01) [4.600599] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. [4.601157] radeon :00:01.0: VRAM: 768M 0x - 0x2FFF (768M used) [4.601159] radeon :00:01.0: GTT: 512M 0x3000 - 0x4FFF [4.601693] [drm] radeon: 768M of VRAM memory ready [4.601694] [drm] radeon: 512M of GTT memory ready. [4.881482] radeon :00:01.0: WB enabled [4.881485] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x3c00 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc00 [4.882218] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 5 use gpu addr 0x00075a18 and cpu addr 0xc900114b5a18 [4.882220] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 1 use gpu addr 0x3c04 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc04 [4.88] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 2 use gpu addr 0x3c08 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc08 [4.882223] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr 0x3c0c and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc0c [4.882225] radeon :00:01.0: fence driver on ring 4 use gpu addr 0x3c10 and cpu addr 0x880223f0dc10 [4.882245] radeon :00:01.0: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X [4.882255] radeon :00:01.0: radeon: using MSI. [4.882534] [drm] radeon: irq initialized. [5.023269] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors [5.044982] [drm] radeon: power management initialized [5.165005] fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device [5.231602] radeon :00:01.0: fb0: radeondrmfb frame buffer device [5.231604] radeon :00:01.0: registered panic notifier [5.231608] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.33.0 20080528 for :00:01.0 on minor 0 /snip That doesn't look too different from my dmesg output. Your last line is almost identical to my system. However, if Bruce is correct, you'll have to try the proprietary drivers (at least for 3D support, I suspect it'll work fine otherwise). HTH -- Marc Joliet -- People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't - Bjarne Stroustrup Hi Marc, Do you have DRM_RADEON built in or a module? Just wondering if that's the difference. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] app-text/poppler-0.24.3 fails to build
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:01:18AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, poppler fails to build for me and i don't know why. Does someone got an idea about this? [ 97%] Building CXX object qt4/src/CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/ArthurOutputDev.cc.o cd /var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/qt4/src /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -Dpoppler_qt4_EXPORTS -DNDEBUG -Wall -Wcast-align -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -ansi -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Woverloaded-virtual -O2 -pipe -fPIC -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3 -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/fofi -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/goo -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/poppler -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/poppler -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/qt4/src -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/qt4/src -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/qt4-o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/ArthurOutputDev.cc.o -c /var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/qt4/src/ArthurOutputDev.cc Traceback (most recent call last): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/g-ir-scanner, line 46, in module File /usr/bin/g-ir-scanner, line 46, in module sys.exit(scanner_main(sys.argv)) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 404, in scanner_main sys.exit(scanner_main(sys.argv)) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 404, in scanner_main transformer = create_transformer(namespace, options) transformer = create_transformer(namespace, options) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 297, in create_transformer File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 297, in create_transformer transformer.register_include(include_obj) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 131, in register_include transformer.register_include(include_obj) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 131, in register_include self._parse_include(filename) self._parse_include(filename) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 203, in _parse_include File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 203, in _parse_include parser.parse(filename) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/girparser.py, line 60, in parse parser.parse(filename) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/girparser.py, line 60, in parse tree = parse(filename) File string, line 62, in parse tree = parse(filename) File string, line 62, in parse File string, line 38, in parse File string, line 38, in parse cElementTree.ParseError: syntax error: line 1, column 0 cElementTree.ParseError: syntax error: line 1, column 0 make[2]: *** [glib/Poppler-0.18.gir] Fehler 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build' make[1]: *** [glib/CMakeFiles/gir-typelibs.dir/all] Fehler 2 make[1]: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse... make[2]: *** [glib/Poppler-0.18.gir] Fehler 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build' make[1]: *** [glib/CMakeFiles/gir-girs.dir/all] Fehler 2 Linking CXX shared library libpoppler-qt4.so cd /var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/qt4/src /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/link.txt --verbose=1 /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -fPIC -Wall -Wcast-align -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -ansi -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Woverloaded-virtual -O2 -pipe -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--as-needed -shared -Wl,-soname,libpoppler-qt4.so.4 -o libpoppler-qt4.so.4.3.0 CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-annotation.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-document.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-embeddedfile.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-fontinfo.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-form.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-link.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-link-extractor.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-movie.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-optcontent.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-page.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-base-converter.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-pdf-converter.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-private.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-ps-converter.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-qiodeviceoutstream.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-sound.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-textbox.cc.o
Re: [gentoo-user] do subslots improve user-experience?
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:04:52PM +0100, hasufell wrote:
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Another round of questioning the users here.
more specifically:
* how often do you experience useless rebuilds?
* do you really have a problem with running
revdep-rebuild/haskell-updater/perl-cleaner etc after every emerge?
* do you think it's worth the effort to add more stuff to the PM, so
that you don't have to run revdep-rebuild that often?
* do you trust the other methods like subslots or preserved-rebuild to
work reliably? (as in: do you still use revdep-rebuild?)
If you want my opinion on subslots:
# grep EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS /etc/portage/make.conf
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y
This kind of subslot mess is so irritating:
workstation ~ # emerge -aDjtuv --changed-use @world dispatch-conf emerge
-a --depclean revdep-rebuild -i clear exit
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild rR] dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r1:4 USE=accessibility exceptions glib xv
(-aqua) -cups -debug -egl -gtkstyle -mng -nas -nis -pch -qt3support -tiff
-trace -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild rR] media-libs/libwebp-0.3.1 USE=jpeg png -experimental -gif
-opengl -static-libs -swap-16bit-csp -tiff ABI_X86=(64) (-32) (-x32) 0 kB
[ebuild rR] app-emulation/wine-1.6 USE=X alsa cups fontconfig jpeg mono
mp3 ncurses nls opengl perl png prelink run-exes ssl threads truetype udisks
xml -capi -custom-cflags -dos -gecko -gphoto2 -gsm -gstreamer -lcms -ldap -odbc
-openal -opencl -osmesa -oss -pulseaudio -samba -scanner (-selinux) {-test}
-v4l -xcomposite -xinerama ABI_X86=32 64 (-x32) LINGUAS=en_US -ar -bg -ca
-cs -da -de -el -en -eo -es -fa -fi -fr -he -hi -hr -hu -it -ja -ko -lt -ml
-nb_NO -nl -or -pa -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -sk -sl -sr_RS@cyrillic
-sr_RS@latin -sv -te -th -tr -uk -wa -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB
[ebuild U ~] www-client/firefox-25.0-r1 [24.0-r1] USE=alsa dbus jit
libnotify startup-notification -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-optimization
-debug -gstreamer -minimal (-pgo) -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-cairo
-system-icu -system-jpeg -system-sqlite -wifi LINGUAS=-af -ak -ar -as -ast
-be -bg -bn_BD -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -en_ZA -eo
-es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN
-he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -ku -lg -lt -lv -mai
-mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -nso -or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si
-sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta -ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW -zu
124,545 kB
[ebuild U ] app-portage/pfl-2.4-r1 [2.3] USE=network-cron
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7%* -python2_6% 7 kB
[ebuild U ~] mail-client/thunderbird-24.1.0-r1 [24.0-r1] USE=alsa dbus jit
libnotify lightning startup-notification -bindist -crypt -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -ldap -minimal -mozdom -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-sqlite -wifi
LINGUAS=-ar -ast -be -bg -bn_BD -br -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es_AR -es_ES
-et -eu -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -he -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -ko
-lt -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq -sr
-sv_SE -ta_LK -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW 137,057 kB
[ebuild rR] net-print/cups-filters-1.0.36-r1 USE=jpeg png tiff -perl
-static-libs -zeroconf 0 kB
[ebuild rR] app-text/poppler-0.24.3:0/43 USE=cairo cjk cxx
introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png tiff utils -curl -debug -doc -qt4 0 kB
[ebuild rR] media-libs/openjpeg-1.5.1 USE=-doc -static-libs {-test} 0
kB
[ebuild rR] x11-libs/cairo-1.12.14-r4 USE=X glib svg (-aqua) -debug
-directfb -doc (-drm) (-gallium) (-gles2) -legacy-drivers -opengl -openvg
(-qt4) -static-libs -valgrind -xcb -xlib-xcb 0 kB
[ebuild r U ~]media-libs/libpng-1.6.6:0/16 [1.5.15:0/0] USE=apng (-neon)
-static-libs ABI_X86=(64%*) -32% (-x32) 860 kB
Total: 11 packages (4 upgrades, 7 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 262,467 kB
The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed:
(see package.accept_keywords in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument)
=media-libs/libpng-1.6.6 ~amd64
Use --autounmask-write to write changes to config files (honoring
CONFIG_PROTECT). Carefully examine the list of proposed changes,
paying special attention to mask or keyword changes that may expose
experimental or unstable packages.
!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- net-analyzer/mtr-0.82::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
workstation ~ # grep libpng
/usr/portage/net-print/cups-filters/cups-filters-1.0.36-r1.ebuild
png? ( media-libs/libpng:0= )
workstation ~ # grep libpng /usr/portage/app-text/poppler/poppler-0.24.3.ebuild
png? (
Re: [gentoo-user] do subslots improve user-experience?
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 07:29:28AM -0600, Bruce Hill wrote:
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:04:52PM +0100, hasufell wrote:
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Another round of questioning the users here.
more specifically:
* how often do you experience useless rebuilds?
* do you really have a problem with running
revdep-rebuild/haskell-updater/perl-cleaner etc after every emerge?
* do you think it's worth the effort to add more stuff to the PM, so
that you don't have to run revdep-rebuild that often?
* do you trust the other methods like subslots or preserved-rebuild to
work reliably? (as in: do you still use revdep-rebuild?)
If you want my opinion on subslots:
# grep EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS /etc/portage/make.conf
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--ignore-built-slot-operator-deps=y
This kind of subslot mess is so irritating:
workstation ~ # emerge -aDjtuv --changed-use @world dispatch-conf
emerge -a --depclean revdep-rebuild -i clear exit
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild rR] dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r1:4 USE=accessibility exceptions glib
xv (-aqua) -cups -debug -egl -gtkstyle -mng -nas -nis -pch -qt3support -tiff
-trace -xinerama 0 kB
[ebuild rR] media-libs/libwebp-0.3.1 USE=jpeg png -experimental -gif
-opengl -static-libs -swap-16bit-csp -tiff ABI_X86=(64) (-32) (-x32) 0 kB
[ebuild rR] app-emulation/wine-1.6 USE=X alsa cups fontconfig jpeg
mono mp3 ncurses nls opengl perl png prelink run-exes ssl threads truetype
udisks xml -capi -custom-cflags -dos -gecko -gphoto2 -gsm -gstreamer -lcms
-ldap -odbc -openal -opencl -osmesa -oss -pulseaudio -samba -scanner
(-selinux) {-test} -v4l -xcomposite -xinerama ABI_X86=32 64 (-x32)
LINGUAS=en_US -ar -bg -ca -cs -da -de -el -en -eo -es -fa -fi -fr -he -hi
-hr -hu -it -ja -ko -lt -ml -nb_NO -nl -or -pa -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru
-sk -sl -sr_RS@cyrillic -sr_RS@latin -sv -te -th -tr -uk -wa -zh_CN -zh_TW 0
kB
[ebuild U ~] www-client/firefox-25.0-r1 [24.0-r1] USE=alsa dbus jit
libnotify startup-notification -bindist -custom-cflags -custom-optimization
-debug -gstreamer -minimal (-pgo) -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-cairo
-system-icu -system-jpeg -system-sqlite -wifi LINGUAS=-af -ak -ar -as -ast
-be -bg -bn_BD -bn_IN -br -bs -ca -cs -csb -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -en_ZA -eo
-es_AR -es_CL -es_ES -es_MX -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -gu_IN
-he -hi_IN -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -kk -km -kn -ko -ku -lg -lt -lv
-mai -mk -ml -mr -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -nso -or -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro
-ru -si -sk -sl -son -sq -sr -sv_SE -ta -ta_LK -te -th -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN
-zh_TW -zu 124,545 kB
[ebuild U ] app-portage/pfl-2.4-r1 [2.3] USE=network-cron
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7%* -python2_6% 7 kB
[ebuild U ~] mail-client/thunderbird-24.1.0-r1 [24.0-r1] USE=alsa dbus
jit libnotify lightning startup-notification -bindist -crypt -custom-cflags
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -ldap -minimal -mozdom -pulseaudio
(-selinux) -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-sqlite -wifi
LINGUAS=-ar -ast -be -bg -bn_BD -br -ca -cs -da -de -el -en_GB -es_AR -es_ES
-et -eu -fi -fr -fy_NL -ga_IE -gd -gl -he -hr -hu -hy_AM -id -is -it -ja -ko
-lt -nb_NO -nl -nn_NO -pa_IN -pl -pt_BR -pt_PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -sq
-sr -sv_SE -ta_LK -tr -uk -vi -zh_CN -zh_TW 137,057 kB
[ebuild rR] net-print/cups-filters-1.0.36-r1 USE=jpeg png tiff -perl
-static-libs -zeroconf 0 kB
[ebuild rR] app-text/poppler-0.24.3:0/43 USE=cairo cjk cxx
introspection jpeg jpeg2k lcms png tiff utils -curl -debug -doc -qt4 0 kB
[ebuild rR] media-libs/openjpeg-1.5.1 USE=-doc -static-libs {-test}
0 kB
[ebuild rR] x11-libs/cairo-1.12.14-r4 USE=X glib svg (-aqua) -debug
-directfb -doc (-drm) (-gallium) (-gles2) -legacy-drivers -opengl -openvg
(-qt4) -static-libs -valgrind -xcb -xlib-xcb 0 kB
[ebuild r U ~]media-libs/libpng-1.6.6:0/16 [1.5.15:0/0] USE=apng
(-neon) -static-libs ABI_X86=(64%*) -32% (-x32) 860 kB
Total: 11 packages (4 upgrades, 7 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 262,467 kB
The following keyword changes are necessary to proceed:
(see package.accept_keywords in the portage(5) man page for more details)
# required by @__auto_slot_operator_replace_installed__ (argument)
=media-libs/libpng-1.6.6 ~amd64
Use --autounmask-write to write changes to config files (honoring
CONFIG_PROTECT). Carefully examine the list of proposed changes,
paying special attention to mask or keyword changes that may expose
experimental or unstable packages.
!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- net-analyzer/mtr-0.82::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
workstation ~ # grep libpng
/usr/portage/net-print/cups-filters/cups-filters-1.0.36-r1.ebuild
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: resolving blocked packages [media-video/ffmpeg-1.2:0]
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 06:15:56AM +, Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) wrote: On Monday 04 Nov 2013 19:51:32 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 11/03/2013 02:27 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: For starters, you should probably merge package.keywords into package.accept_keywords; the latter is the new standard name, though Portage will likely support the old names for a while. Just a heads-up on that. Thanks for a heads-up. I did as you suggested. Is there going to be a portage news article on this, or did I miss it? It wasn't two or three years ago... mingdao@server ~ $ eselect news read 5 2012-09-09-make.conf-and-make.profile-move Title make.conf and make.profile move AuthorJorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org Posted2012-09-09 Revision 1 Starting next week, new stages will have make.conf and make.profile moved from /etc to /etc/portage. This is a change in the installation defaults, that will only affect new installs so it doesn't affect current systems. Current users don't need to do anything. But if you want to follow the preferred location, you may want to take the chance to move the files in your system(s) to the new location. But that's about make.conf, not about package.keywords. mingdao blushes -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: do subslots improve user-experience?
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 04:44:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I too see your viewpoint, as you see mine. There's nothing wrong with your logic within the narrow domain of making the code that implements this specific feature (subslots) work correctly per spec. Background: I'm a Linux sysadmin by day at an ISP. I constantly have to contend with Devs and Devops writing bespoke code to implement business rules. Because I sit three feet back from the problem, I can almost always see the flaws with the solution. I can't give much details unfortunately, my employer owns the code. But I get to be very very good at spotting code that runs per spec, but is very brittle in the real world. I look for tells like this: - is the dev trying to get code deployed that is not fully tested? - is the dev trying to ignore or minimize the real world effect on other systems? - can the dev show that someone else (not him) can actually maintain it, configure it and understand it? - Can every single person in his team rattle off the primary salient points of the code without thinking much? - Did the team who write the code write a doc on how to configure it, and how to deal with possible failures they anticipate? - If someone else (like eg me) gets this wrong and I make mistakes while deploying, how will I know I've made a mistake? Do I get a sane error message that a) describes the error in simple language and b) does not make the fatal mistake of exposing the underlying implementation in error messages? - Do I need to read the code itself to gain even a high level understanding of what the code does? That is good practice, to say the least. Wish it would happen in Gentoo. But then again, may I ask, do you have as many devs and as many pkgs that must co-exist on so many differently configured machines? My take is something like that should be implemented in Gentoo. But then, I came from to Gentoo after 7+ years in Slackware. It happened your way there, also, because of a BDFL. We don't have such in Gentoo. The fact that 16939 packages in Gentoo mostly always work is amazing! Which requires a lot of hands on deck; and they don't all have the same skills. By now you will have guessed that nearby Dev team hate my guts with a passion. Unlucky for them, I'm root and they ain't. Lucky for them, I'm quite reasonable and happy to work together to get the questions answered. With an answer of some kind, we can assess risk and make a rational choice. Oftentimes it comes down to we write one detailed technical doc and allay all fears. I don't see these questions being answered wrt subslots. Maybe they were answered and I haven't seen the link yet, maybe not. Maybe senior devs with clue have thus far successfully modified ebuilds, maybe not. Maybe more junior devshave yet to take their first steps, and maybe they will royally screw things up by not understanding the syntax, or maybe not. These questions have not been answered and I certainly don't have answers; I also think neither do you. I would like to see this feature extensively tested in de and stage before it hits production. Only then can I decide for myself if subslots are a good solution to the stated problem. I've asked a very specific question about subslot philosophy as it pertains to a specific situation on gentoo-dev. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] do subslots improve user-experience?
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 09:28:05PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:29:59 -0600, Bruce Hill wrote: I can't understand the *need* for the new slot/subslot philosophy. The need to it is clear. Previous methods worked by breaking things and then fixing them, hopefully before the breakage became a problem, whenever library APIs changed. Subslots are an attempt to deal with this proactively by fixing the problems as they occur. Whether subslots are the best way to do it, and whether the implementation is ideal, as separate questions, but there is no doubt that any system that relies on the existence of revdep-rebuild is seriously flawed. To my mind, the question is not are subslots needed but are they the best solution to this problem. You misread my statement, also. It is in alignment with your last sentence. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel guys sent me back here
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 12:02:00PM -0800, Grant wrote: I was referred back to my distro supplier for a kernel crash. Isn't that a kernel problem? https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62981 The first thing for any crash is logs. And btw ... don't go to the Linux kernel if you're running any Gentoo sys-kernel/* source. Only if you get your source from kernel.org. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: resolving blocked packages [media-video/ffmpeg-1.2:0]
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 10:43:07PM +, Mick wrote: On Monday 04 Nov 2013 19:51:32 Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 11/03/2013 02:27 AM, Daniel Campbell wrote: For starters, you should probably merge package.keywords into package.accept_keywords; the latter is the new standard name, though Portage will likely support the old names for a while. Just a heads-up on that. Thanks for a heads-up. I did as you suggested. Is there going to be a portage news article on this, or did I miss it? It wasn't two or three years ago... mingdao@server ~ $ eselect news read 5 2012-09-09-make.conf-and-make.profile-move Title make.conf and make.profile move AuthorJorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org Posted2012-09-09 Revision 1 Starting next week, new stages will have make.conf and make.profile moved from /etc to /etc/portage. This is a change in the installation defaults, that will only affect new installs so it doesn't affect current systems. Current users don't need to do anything. But if you want to follow the preferred location, you may want to take the chance to move the files in your system(s) to the new location. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience?
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:11:59PM -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Sun, Oct 27 2013, Mike Gilbert wrote: Making things just work is complex when trying to juggle 6 or more supported versions/implementations of python. Indeed. We have tried to explain the magic make.conf lines in the Python user guide. https://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/Python/python-r1/user-guide.xml We also try to make sure that most users never have to touch PYTHON_TARGETS, etc; the default values provided by your profile are set up to allow *stable* python2.7 and python3.2 to work properly. ~arch users are expected to read the docs. ^_^ I am a ~amd64 user and I just read the user-guide. :-) I do not see any action items for my system; but do see a large number of reinstalls proposed by emerge I do not change any python variables in make.conf so emerge --info shows PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2 a recursive grep -i for python in /etc/portage yields only ./package.use/imaging-pillow:5:virtual/python-imaging -python_targets_python3_2 So I basically have the default except for the imaging/pillow business. I note that update world wants to rebuild a bunch of packages (the entire output is below). Some are qt-related others involve PYTHON_TARGETS. Does this mean that I can let the 44 packages / 38 reinstalls update occur and expect a running system to result? It is unusual, but I realize not unprecedented, to have so many reinstalls and I would like to confirm that this is expected. I don't remember seeing your emerge output; but if this has to do with pyton-exec you're not in the boat alone ... it is terribly fubared atm. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 03:13:37AM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: What size is that screen? Can you attach a screen shot? I have 1920x1080 on everything but this laptop (1440x900), and use 23 screens at work. Still, I just can't seem to like any setup with more than one thing on the screen at a time. My desktop has GKrellM with width 100 on the right hand side. It's a 24 monitor. Screenshot attached. I'm migrating over to UZBL as my web browser, if you wonder why it looks unfamiliar. As per my sig, I don't use a fancy DE. I use ICEWM. One nice feature is the menu+launch bar which only pops up when I bring the mouse pointer to the bottom of the screen. The rest of the time it stays out of the way. I also have multiple workspaces, and keep related stuff open in their own workspaces. Maybe what you're looking for is a different type of 1440 monitor, namely a 27 2560x1440 display. Drool. Available from $600 and up at Best Buy here in Toronto. Probably significantly cheaper in the USA. Thanks for the screenshot. I use Fluxbox on all comps except this laptop, where Xfce4 has been a test to see if it's a DE that I could support for people migrating from Windows. The Linux DEs are really quite poor in quality compared to Windows. For my own workstation, urxvt with tabs is my main app. For years now I've had irssi running in one of it's tabs, but now I'm wanting to see it at the same time as wherever else I'm working. To achieve that, irssi needs to come out of that urvxt instance, and I haven't decided how I want to do that yet. Today 1920x1080 on a 23 screen still doesn't look like a large working environment. Maybe if I'd never had greater resolution on 17 and 19 CRTs, and come from 1024x768 on a 15 LCD, I'd think it HUGE. Part of the issue is that I've gotten used to using apps open fullscreen (sans GKrellM) on this size desktop, so whenever I put two apps side-by-side something gets lost. I'm sure in time it would grow on me, just as I've now, in the last year or less, gotten okay with using a second workspace (first time in 10 years with Fluxbox). It's exclusively for Teamviewer, though. As for a 27 2560x1440 display for $600 ... cold day in Hades comes to mind. IMO $200 is _very_expensive_ for a computer monitor, unless you're doing high end graphics work in Adobe products for commercial printing and need color calibration. But then, you'd not be using a Linux OS for that. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
[gentoo-user] video display problem
Last night my laptop began having two problems. First, when I paste with middle-click of the mouse into Firefox, there is no output on the screen for about 2-3 seconds. In Libreoffice it takes about 7-8s, and then the mouse cursor doesn't change from the I-beam back to the pointer for another 2s or so. Pasting into urvxt seems instantaneous, although last night I did have some issues with a tab or urxvt where I had ssh'ed into a server running irssi in screen -- the backspace key seemed to be stuck, but that stopped after I did a ^A^D and then screen -dx 17169.pts-3.server. Second, there is an image from Workspace 1 showing up on top of the app running in Workspace 2. The first screenshot I took to show this had the xfce-extra/xfce4-screenshooter app appearing there, also. I've used it many times and never saw this behavior. I tried another screenshot to move it off the app (which, btw, is Teamviewer), to show that it was still in the desktop area, and it left these whatever you call it's in the second screenshot. Actually, in the second screenshot you can't see anything that was dragged off of the Teamviewer (open app) area, just whatever is on it. Yesterday this laptop had four updates: dev-libs/gmp-5.1.2 media-video/ffmpeg-1.0.7 net-firewall/iptables-1.4.20 app-admin/logrotate-3.8.6 All of them are stable amd64, and there were no USE flag changes to them or to make.conf. It seems ffmpeg is the only one of those that could have caused it, so I thought to downgrade and see. However, there doesn't seem to be any downgrade path for ffmpeg: mingdao@baruch ~ $ eshowkw media-video/ffmpeg Keywords for media-video/ffmpeg: | | u| | a a p s | n| | l m h i m m p s p | u s | r | p d a p a 6 i p c 3 a x | s l | e | h 6 r p 6 8 p p 6 9 s r 8 | e o | p | a 4 m a 4 k s c 4 0 h c 6 | d t | o -+---+--+--- 0.10.9 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | o 0.10 | gentoo -+---+--+--- [I]1.0.7 | + + + + + o ~ + + o o + + | o 0 | gentoo 1.0.8 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | o| gentoo 1.2.3 | o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ ~ o o o ~ | #| gentoo 1.2.4 | o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ ~ o o o ~ | o| gentoo -+---+--+--- [M]2.0.2 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | o 0/52.55.55 | gentoo [M] | o o o o o o o o o o o o o | o| gentoo -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting attachment: workspace1-over-workspace2.pngattachment: workspace1-over-workspace2-02.png
Re: [gentoo-user] video display problem
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 08:22:39AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Last night my laptop began having two problems. First, when I paste with middle-click of the mouse into Firefox, there is no output on the screen for about 2-3 seconds. In Libreoffice it takes about 7-8s, and then the mouse cursor doesn't change from the I-beam back to the pointer for another 2s or so. Pasting into urvxt seems instantaneous, although last night I did have some issues with a tab or urxvt where I had ssh'ed into a server running irssi in screen -- the backspace key seemed to be stuck, but that stopped after I did a ^A^D and then screen -dx 17169.pts-3.server. Second, there is an image from Workspace 1 showing up on top of the app running in Workspace 2. The first screenshot I took to show this had the xfce-extra/xfce4-screenshooter app appearing there, also. I've used it many times and never saw this behavior. I tried another screenshot to move it off the app (which, btw, is Teamviewer), to show that it was still in the desktop area, and it left these whatever you call it's in the second screenshot. Actually, in the second screenshot you can't see anything that was dragged off of the Teamviewer (open app) area, just whatever is on it. Yesterday this laptop had four updates: dev-libs/gmp-5.1.2 media-video/ffmpeg-1.0.7 net-firewall/iptables-1.4.20 app-admin/logrotate-3.8.6 All of them are stable amd64, and there were no USE flag changes to them or to make.conf. It seems ffmpeg is the only one of those that could have caused it, so I thought to downgrade and see. However, there doesn't seem to be any downgrade path for ffmpeg: mingdao@baruch ~ $ eshowkw media-video/ffmpeg Keywords for media-video/ffmpeg: | | u| | a a p s | n| | l m h i m m p s p | u s | r | p d a p a 6 i p c 3 a x | s l | e | h 6 r p 6 8 p p 6 9 s r 8 | e o | p | a 4 m a 4 k s c 4 0 h c 6 | d t | o -+---+--+--- 0.10.9 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | o 0.10 | gentoo -+---+--+--- [I]1.0.7 | + + + + + o ~ + + o o + + | o 0 | gentoo 1.0.8 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | o| gentoo 1.2.3 | o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ ~ o o o ~ | #| gentoo 1.2.4 | o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ ~ o o o ~ | o| gentoo -+---+--+--- [M]2.0.2 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o o ~ ~ | o 0/52.55.55 | gentoo [M] | o o o o o o o o o o o o o | o| gentoo News ... I stopped Teamviewer and the bad behavior stopped. I restarted it and all seems well, atm. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Pentoo overlay
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 05:24:55PM +, James wrote: The only difference I've see so far is make.conf is in /etc/portage/. mingdao@server ~ $ eselect news read 5 2012-09-09-make.conf-and-make.profile-move Title make.conf and make.profile move AuthorJorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto jmbsvice...@gentoo.org Posted2012-09-09 Revision 1 Starting next week, new stages will have make.conf and make.profile moved from /etc to /etc/portage. This is a change in the installation defaults, that will only affect new installs so it doesn't affect current systems. Current users don't need to do anything. But if you want to follow the preferred location, you may want to take the chance to move the files in your system(s) to the new location. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] video display problem
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 10:57:14PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Are you running an Nvidia video card with their proprietary driver? Youtube, even static/paused Youtube images would cause that on such a setup I once had. I already fixed it and answered my own thread. ;) And, no, I feel the same way about Nvidia as Mr. Torvalds. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Video card with two ports.
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 09:14:30PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: I run 2 browsers, 960x1080 side-by-each, on a 1920x1080 display. What size is that screen? Can you attach a screen shot? I have 1920x1080 on everything but this laptop (1440x900), and use 23 screens at work. Still, I just can't seem to like any setup with more than one thing on the screen at a time. My desktop has GKrellM with width 100 on the right hand side. Thanks -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] GCC upgrade 4.6.3 to 4.7.3 - any gotchas?
On Sun, Oct 27, 2013 at 12:29:27PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Just asking ahead of time... Any major gotchas with respect to this GCC upgrade? Does this one introduce any ABI changes that require rebuilding the entire toolchain... or even world? It's an easy upgrade. Just remember to gcc-config -l and gcc-config 1 or whatever number you need active after the upgrade, then . /etc/profile and some people have needed to re-emerge libtool (emerge -1 libtool). No need to rebuild the entire toolchain on this one. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 depends on net-misc/freerdp
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:52:18PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I've updated vlc today, which pulled in freerdp as a dependency. Is that normal? Why would a media player require a remote desktop application client? box0=; equery -C depends --indirect net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1 * These packages depend on net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 (net-misc/freerdp:0) Read /usr/portage/media-video/vlc/ChangeLog then eix-sync and try again. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 depends on net-misc/freerdp
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:52:18PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I've updated vlc today, which pulled in freerdp as a dependency. Is that normal? Why would a media player require a remote desktop application client? box0=; equery -C depends --indirect net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1 * These packages depend on net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 (net-misc/freerdp:0) Sorry if I got ahead of portage. I've been talking with the maintainer and freedrp should not be a RDEPEND of vlc. He's working on it. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 depends on net-misc/freerdp
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 08:37:28PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: On 10/26/2013 08:03 PM, Bruce Hill wrote: On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 06:52:18PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I've updated vlc today, which pulled in freerdp as a dependency. Is that normal? Why would a media player require a remote desktop application client? box0=; equery -C depends --indirect net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1 * These packages depend on net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 (net-misc/freerdp:0) Sorry if I got ahead of portage. I've been talking with the maintainer and freedrp should not be a RDEPEND of vlc. He's working on it. Understood. Thanks very much for following it up. In a way I'm glad freerdp got pulled in. The mouse pointer seems to work better for me in freerdp than it does in rdesktop. I've been using teamviewer and it informed me yesterday that I appear to be using it for commercial use; so I'm now looking for some FOSS to replace it. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Brand new instalation - Network problem
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 08:44:00PM +, João Matos wrote: Hi list, I`ve just installed a brand new gentoo amd64 and there is this problem: my Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) is recognized as *sit0* , but I can't get any IP Adress. dhcp takes long and doesn't get any result. dhcpcd doesn't work either. Even if I choose a manual address I cant ping other devices. When I used ifconfig, I got something like ipv6 over ipv4, but I will only need ipv4. So I disabled ipv6 USE flag, but I didn't change anything. The weird thing is that if I disable the IPV6 kernel support (manual configuration btw), the network interface (sit0) desappears! When I reboot the system using a usb botable Ubuntu everything works fine, using the same hardware/infrastructure. sit0 is used for ipv6 tunneling (6to4), it is not a physical interface While you're in the Ubuntu environment, issue lspci -k to see which kernel driver your ethernet device uses. It is R8169 which is provided by: Symbol: R8169 [=y] Type : tristate Prompt: Realtek 8169 gigabit ethernet support Location: - Device Drivers - Network device support (NETDEVICES [=y]) - Ethernet driver support (ETHERNET [=y]) - Realtek devices (NET_VENDOR_REALTEK [=y]) The Gentoo Handbook has the following Networking section http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1chap=8#doc_chap2 which tells you what to do. If you prefer eth0, rather than some udev mangled name such as enp3s0, read the three methods in https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] did python-r1 improve user experience?
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 10:18:11PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 09:30:57PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote
The (non-)relationship between eselect python and PYTHON_TARGETS is
something that would be nice to resolve, but I don't know how to do
it. PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET will probably cause problems if/when packages
start supporting python3 only.
What I find interesting/annoying is that my make.conf has to have 3
lines...
PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7
PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7
USE_PYTHON=2.7
...as if it didn't hear me the first time. How difficult would it be to
set up an eclass to tell portage that...
if PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=pythonX_Y
PYTHON_TARGETS defaults to ${PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET}
USE_PYTHON defaults to ${PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET/_/.}
Over-ride the default if explicitly listed. Out of sheer curiousity,
what circumstances are there where ordinary users would need differing
values for these 3 items?
Mine only have PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 and I unmerge python3 immediately
after install.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 03:26:05PM +, James wrote: specifically for tight target implementations. Samsung is killing the world, with ARM and open source linux. James I'm not positive of it's architecture, but for 20 months I had a Samsung Galaxy S running Android. This was by far the biggest POS I ever owned. From the first week it spontaneously rebooted, hung, and the performance was horrible when it did run. I've since switched to an iPhone 4S, now running iOS 7.0.2. It Just Works (TM) -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 05:31:08PM +, James wrote: I'm not positive of it's architecture, but for 20 months I had a Samsung Galaxy S running Android. This was by far the biggest POS I ever owned. From the first week it spontaneously rebooted, hung, and the performance was horrible when it did run. 2010 is ancient . Most likely an early Android OS problem, not with the processor.. Root the bitch and run embedded linux! Do you have a link for that? Is that cyanogenmod or whatever? I figured the OS was too much for the hardware. Other users around here running later versions of Galaxy don't all have that problem, though some do. I've since switched to an iPhone 4S, now running iOS 7.0.2. It Just Works (TM) OK, have you seen this? http://www.zdnet.com/2015-64-bit-arm-chips-in-iphone-5s-serve-up-taste-of-intel-free-future-for-apple-720524/ No, but I got the 4S in August because it was free, and when I upgrade I can skip 5 and go to 5S or whatever the second generation. I'll read that, thanks. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 01:36:37PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote: Just because you got a phone that was bad, and didn't bother to get it replaced, doesn't make all Galaxy S4 phones as bad as yours. Hey, dipstick! Apparently you can't distinguish between S and S4. :-) -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 04:04:21AM -0500, Dale wrote: Every once in a while, my brain actually comes up with something. ROFL Want to hear something equally funny? I started the UPS service that started this whole mess to see if it works. This is from messages: Oct 22 02:47:50 localhost kernel: [51255.888492] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:47:52 localhost kernel: [51257.891409] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:47:54 localhost kernel: [51259.902338] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:47:56 localhost kernel: [51261.905256] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:47:58 localhost kernel: [51263.916194] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:00 localhost kernel: [51265.919112] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:02 localhost kernel: [51267.930020] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:04 localhost kernel: [51269.932920] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:06 localhost kernel: [51271.943841] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:08 localhost kernel: [51273.946758] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:10 localhost kernel: [51275.949676] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:12 localhost kernel: [51277.960606] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:14 localhost kernel: [51279.963523] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:16 localhost kernel: [51281.974454] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:18 localhost kernel: [51283.977370] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:20 localhost kernel: [51285.980286] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9212 cc 9 -- status -121 Oct 22 02:48:22 localhost kernel: [51287.991218] ohci_hcd :00:12.0: urb 8803ea43f980 path 2 ep1in 9312 cc 9 -- status -121 So, new mobo and $120 later, same freakin error. All this, still in the same hole. Now ain't that something? Dale is going to the shop and getting his mini sledge Dale I was about to suggest you search http://www.apc.com/support/answers.cfm for a possible meaning to status -121 from APC. Assuming it's an APC unit. I can't search for you cause they demand cookies. Later I read Neil's reply to you. You can always bring the UPS to Tupelo on your next visit for your brother; along with the entire rig if you'd like. Cheers, Homie! -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19.
On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 09:36:46AM -0600, Joseph wrote: I'm tryint to emerge: gtk+-2.24.19 on one of my x86 but I'm getting: there are no ebuilds to satisfy =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19. package.keywords has: =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86 That version is no longer in portage: mingdao@baruch ~ $ eshowkw x11-libs/gtk+ Keywords for x11-libs/gtk+: | | u | | a a p s | n | | l m h i m m p s p | u s | r | p d a p a 6 i p c 3 a x | s l | e | h 6 r p 6 8 p p 6 9 s r 8 | e o | p | a 4 m a 4 k s c 4 0 h c 6 | d t | o ---+---+-+--- 1.2.10-r12 | + + + + + o ~ + + o + + + | o 1 | gentoo ---+---+-+--- 2.24.16 | o o o o o o o o o + o o o | o 2 | gentoo [I]2.24.17 | + + + + + o ~ + + o + + + | o | gentoo 2.24.22 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o | gentoo ---+---+-+--- [I]3.4.4 | + + + + + o ~ + + + + + + | o 3 | gentoo 3.6.3-r3 | ~ ~ + ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o | gentoo 3.8.4 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | # | gentoo 3.8.6 | ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ | o | gentoo By putting =category/package-atom in package.accept_keywords (not package.keywords) you have limited it to that one single version and unstable package. Also, you need not put ~arch in package.accept_keywords because that file will pull whatever the latest version is available for category/package. Try changing your =x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 ~x86 to x11-libs/gtk+ and emerge again. Or, because you appear to have two separate issues here... I've created manifest in: ebuild /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+/gtk+-2.24.19.ebuild manifest Appending /usr/local/portage to PORTDIR_OVERLAY... Creating Manifest for /usr/local/portage/x11-libs/gtk+ Now, if you have created your own local overlay and ebuild, you need to also provide the source and needed patches for x11-libs/gtk+-2.24.19 -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Asterisk 11.5.1 MeetMe on Gentoo
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 06:23:51PM -0500, sbasu...@soft-gator.com wrote: Hello, I am running asterisk with dahdi in several Gentoo servers, everything works great, but when I try to use meetme it tells me that there is no application I already try: 1. In asterisk command line: asterisk module load app_meetme.so Unable to load module app_meetme.so Command 'module load app_meetme.so' failed. [Oct 17 18:16:37] WARNING[5038]: loader.c:423 load_dynamic_module: Error loading module 'app_meetme.so': /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/app_meetme.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory [Oct 17 18:16:37] WARNING[5038]: loader.c:902 load_resource: Module 'app_meetme.so' could not be loaded. asterisk 2. I compile libpri, dahdi , dahdi-tools and asterisk in that order. 3. Search on google for the right USE flag but nothing until now works, any one knows how to make the app_meetme.so be compiled on Gentoo? I post this here because I am using Gentoo, but please point me in the right direction if I am wrong. Kind Regards, Why do I keep getting this same message over and over and over again? What is broken, or needs breaking? -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 04:40:52PM -0500, Dale wrote: Well, this is interesting. I swapped out the mobo. First, it has the UEFI BIOS thing. That was interesting for sure. I'm not complaining but not used to it and wasn't expecting it either. Second, it works except for the third part. Third thing is, no mouse worky. It works in the BIOS but not in the OS. I have gpm set to start and it doesn't work in a console or a GUI. I tried everything I can think of, no mouse. I had to swap again. I'm back to my old mobo. Here is the kicker. I plugged the USB mouse into the old mobo, it works just fine. It works in KDE, console etc. It just works. The only kernel change I made was for the chipset on the mobo. I left the USB stuff alone. Instead of me posting a lot of worthless stuff, what do y'all need me to post? Keep in mind, I'm on my old mobo and it works on here. I got the kernel config tho. It's a start, I hope? I followed this wiki howto. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/USB/HOWTO Thoughts? What do you need to figure this out? Dale Obliviously something simple, but why don't you throw your BB gun in the truck and come over so we can sight in the .44 magnum? Put all the stuff on the new mobo, boot with SystemRescueCD, see that the mouse works, take 2 aspirins, and let's go from there. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: New mobo change
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 04:57:46PM -0700, walt wrote: Third thing is, no mouse worky. It works in the BIOS but not in the OS. Dale, I don't understand what you mean by works in the BIOS. Could you give us a few more details? He means the mouse works when he boots and has to select something with the mouse, such as Esc or F12 of Delete to get into the BIOS. But once his Gentoo system loads, it doesn't. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't kill /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/nsplugin
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 01:38:19AM -0700, Grant wrote: Multiple instances of /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/nsplugin keep spawning even after I kill them. I suspect midori although I have the libreoffice plugin disabled. Has anyone else seen this? How can I confirm my suspicions? Is pstree useful at all? -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] New mobo change
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 02:49:54AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Pandu Poluan wrote:
Personally, I think all you need to do is to ensure that the kernel
has all the drivers it needs to speak to the new mobo. Other members
of the @world set relies on the drivers in the kernel.
But I don't use any GUI or audio; if you're using a GUI and/or audio,
you might also have to re-emerge the relevant bits.
BSTS: just re-emerge @world :-)
It uses the same audio chip so that should be OK but that is something
that I hadn't thought of tho. I have a seperate video card which will
be moving over as well. So that *should* work. We hope.
I'm hoping this will be as painless as I hope it will be. I just got to
remember how to hook the drivers up. Especially the first one. I
certainly want sda to be correct. ;-)
Thanks. You thought of something I hadn't thought of.
Dale
Run blkid on your present mobo, and you will see where your filesystem(s)
are located in regards to /dev/sd{a,b,c,d}.
When you plug your SATA drive(s) to your new mobo, look for labels on the mobo
to indicate SATA{1,2,3,4,5,6} or whatever. Generally they are going to use sda
on 1, sdb on 2, etc. What can throw that off is the ATAPI drive (DVD/CD). I'd
put it on the highest SATA#, at least for that first boot.
Also look at your /var/log/dmesg output. NB: less /var/log/dmesg is NOT the
same as dmesg. Do the former and it will show you only that part from boot
to Linux login (or whatever).
As previously stated, be sure to have all the drivers you need built into your
new kernel. You may or may not be able to ascertain that w/out the board in
your possession. You can look it up by make/model on
http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ but they are using an old kernel, therefore,
caveat emptor. One way you can check that is to boot with SystemRescueCd
first, select their kernel version closest to the one you'll be using, and run
lspci -k from it. If you don't have something you need in your kernel, go
ahead and chroot into the new system.
I've moved stuff around like this...sold the wife's computer sans hard drive a
few weeks ago, and it booted fine. So long as you have the new board's / fs
and it's controller built into the new kernel, you'll get into the system.
From there you can make nconfig on the running kernel and change/add
whatever you missed.
Don't forget that grub (if you use it for bootloader, not just fishing), has
an editable line when you boot up. So if /dev/sda1 is not valid, edit it and
try booting with /dev/sd{b,c,d}1 or whatever until you get it. Then once
you're into the system, you can change it.
Trivial, Homie! Call if you need help...you have my number. :-)
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Slow network transfers ... lost interrupts because of clocksource?
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:18:06AM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: This is 3.8.13 now ... with some changed options, sure. For now I am happy ... can't believe it yet ;-) Why do you use a kernel that has been abandoned? https://www.kernel.org/ You should use a longterm kernel, preferably 3.10 series at this point. Why not use 3.8 series, or one marked EOL? Because no more patches will be applied against them, so no more bug/security fixes. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] re: automounting removable drives
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 08:19:40PM +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote: I just plugged in my USB memory stick. Here's the output of dmesg with regard to that: box0=; dmesg|tail -30 [ 1674.204287] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.255067] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using ehci-pci [ 1674.306278] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: port 3 reset complete, port enabled [ 1674.306286] ehci-pci :00:1a.7: GetStatus port:3 status 001005 0 ACK POWER sig=se0 PE CONNECT [ 1674.370434] usb 1-3: default language 0x0409 [ 1674.371812] usb 1-3: udev 3, busnum 1, minor = 2 [ 1674.371816] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=0951, idProduct=1603 [ 1674.371819] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [ 1674.371821] usb 1-3: Product: DataTraveler 2.0 [ 1674.371824] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: Kingston [ 1674.371826] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: 000AEB91BC8CA9203550013A [ 1674.371945] usb 1-3: usb_probe_device [ 1674.371949] usb 1-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [ 1674.372446] usb 1-3: adding 1-3:1.0 (config #1, interface 0) [ 1674.372501] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface [ 1674.372508] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: usb_probe_interface - got id [ 1674.372511] usb-storage 1-3:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected [ 1674.372679] scsi6 : usb-storage 1-3:1.0 [ 1675.374695] scsi 6:0:0:0: Direct-Access Kingston DataTraveler 2.0 1.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 [ 1675.377095] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] 7852032 512-byte logical blocks: (4.02 GB/3.74 GiB) [ 1675.377860] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [ 1675.377866] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00 [ 1675.378706] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.378711] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.382693] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.382698] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.608825] sdb: [ 1675.996321] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present [ 1675.996326] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [ 1675.996330] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk Additionally, there doesn't seem to be any partitions on that device. Is this some type of filesystem/label which does not have one? Such as sdb1 -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:36:50PM -0500, Dale wrote:
Well, I rebuilt the kernel and removed the OHCI and UHCI. When I
rebooted, it couldn't see my UPS and nut couldn't start its services.
So, it appears that mine must be ancient hardware. My messages file
is still full of the same error after this change. That would be adding
back the OHCI part.
BTW, I didn't have XHCI enabled so maybe now some things will be faster
when using USB ports. ;-)
Is it safe to disable this and will this kill the messages: USB verbose
debug messages
This is a grep of USB stuff.
root@fireball / # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep -i hci
CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=y
# CONFIG_SATA_AHCI_PLATFORM is not set
# CONFIG_SATA_ACARD_AHCI is not set
# CONFIG_FIREWIRE_OHCI is not set
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_OHCI=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_EHCI=y
CONFIG_USB_ARCH_HAS_XHCI=y
CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y
# CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD_DEBUGGING is not set
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y
# CONFIG_USB_EHCI_ROOT_HUB_TT is not set
# CONFIG_USB_EHCI_TT_NEWSCHED is not set
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_PCI=y
CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD=y
# CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD_PLATFORM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD_PLATFORM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_OHCI_BIG_ENDIAN_DESC is not set
# CONFIG_USB_OHCI_BIG_ENDIAN_MMIO is not set
CONFIG_USB_OHCI_LITTLE_ENDIAN=y
# CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD is not set
CONFIG_PROVIDE_OHCI1394_DMA_INIT=y
root@fireball / #
So, now what? Can I tell syslog to ignore that error or do I need to
beat something into the kernel?
Dale
Is this your motherboard?
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3320#sp
If so, you have 6 USB 2.0 ports, and 2 USB 3.0. The ports with blue are the
USB 3.0 ports. Therefore, your kernel needs EHCI (USB 2.0/1.0/1.1) and XHCI
(USB 3.0). (This is not including the internal connectors on your board which
might have a cable running to the front of your case as USB 2.0.)
No matter how special you think your setup is, you don't need OHCI. The EHCI
driver for the port is backwards compatible with a USB 1.{0,1} device. I've
tested this on my boards using the only USB 1.1 device I brought back from
China. If you doubt me, build your kernel with this:
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_PCI=y
CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD_PLATFORM=y
CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y
CONFIG_USB_OHCI_HCD is not set
CONFIG_USB_UHCI_HCD is not set
boot into it, issue tail -f /var/log/messages and plug in your USB devices.
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Network failed and weird error message
On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:06:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Just remove ohci and uhci from the kernel config
These days all you need is ehci for usb2 and xhci for usb3 (unless you
are using ancient hardware with physical usb1 ports)
Well, I'm not sure about my UPS. It could be old school usb1. My mouse
and keyboard is PS/2 tho.
One additional note. It has ran all day with no problems that I have
seen.
Dale
The issue is not what interface the UPS uses, but the port(s) on your mobo.
lspci -k will show which kernel drivers your USB controller(s) use
You can also look at the mobo manual, or plug the model # in the
manufacturer's website, and check it's specifications.
Very doubtful you have USB 1.{0,1}, and iirc, almost, if not every, EHCI
controller has an integrated Transaction Translator so that you don't need
UHCI/OHCI anymore.
Cheers Homie!
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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Multiple package instances within a single package slot
On Sat, Oct 05, 2013 at 05:59:52PM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: No, there is something wrong here. When I updated portage, it also remerged libreoffice. Upgrading claws-mail updated dev-libs/libdbusmenu and dev-libs/libindicate, and wanted to remerge libreoffice, which I avoided. Next, I updated chromium, which also remerged libreoffice. Again. And whatever package I try to update, emerge wants to remerge libreoffice. Happens with all the packages I tried, which are adobe-flash, python, zsh, xterm. Please run: emerge wgetpaste emerge -Djptuv --changed-use @world | wgetpaste If you already have wgetpaste just run: emerge -Djptuv --changed-use @world | wgetpaste and post the link it outputs. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 03:02:07PM +, James wrote: Howdy one and all, Well I heard about about AMD's push, referred to as Mantle to unseat DirectX as the defacto gaming platform (yawn)... But recently, an egg_head mathematician that irritates me from time to time, called me in the middle of the night. He, being an eceptionally bright and difficult humnoid; would not shut up at what AMD is doing. Finally it seems that an open source, raw hardware access API is going to allow truely unfettered access to the computational blocks inside of a GPU. (ok now I was awake). Upon googing this am, I do see quite a buzz, particularly since all Nvidia would have to do, is decide to implement the open source -- open standard access to the bare metal of the GPU. This should not be taken likely as it is akin to all of the FPGA hardware folks giving away the billions of dollars in IP, software and integration tools that make building a custom processor, possible. Those tools are locked away, due to expense and the business approach of hardware vendors asking for money each time they reveal the tricks, trade secrets and heuritical methods to build low level components. What this means is that MANTLE is a game changer and opens up bare metal access to multitudes of ordinary computational and recreatioal computer weenies(whoa Pee!) If this is true, it is a GAME CHANGERS (could not resist the pun). So: A. it is time for me to dig into this issue. B. Are any of the folks on this list working to get Mantle support available on Gentoo? C. Anyone tested one of the Hawaii radeon cards? D. Anyone working on running SteamOS virtualize on (gentoo) linux? as always, your thoughts are most welcome James [1] http://www.pcworld.com/article/2049369/amd-nvidia-ramp-up-linux-driver-support-after-valves-steamos-announcement.html [2] http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-api-gcn-battlefield-4,24418.html computer gaming (yawn)... -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Mantle Open source GPU engine
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 04:49:24PM +, James wrote: James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: computer gaming (yawn)... The Kalman filter operates recursively on streams of noisy input data to produce a statistically optimal estimate of the underlying system state. [1] (sounds like a database admin's dream tool, huh?) clean usage from dirty/corrupted data (think NSA, DOD etc etc). You like video on the Net? The Kalman Filter is one of the chief mathmatical advances in the field of video and graphics, among a myriad of other applications. The Kalman filter is unknown to most digital mathmaticians and application programers, but these days they rarely perform seraching or sorting without the benefits of Kalman Filters running on hardware (bare metal).. The Kalman Filter is but one of the bare metal Algorithms that will benefit by orders of magnitude with true bare metal access to the GPU. [2] If you really want to learn about where hardware meets software, read up on this man : Donald Knuth. Most programmers has never heard of him, let alone comprehend his body of work. hth, James [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalman_filter [2] http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=arnumber=6121397url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fxpls%2Fabs_all.jsp%3Farnumber%3D6121397 Hi James, Sorry for such a terse, if not rude, response. You did, however, get the meaning and respond accordingly. ;) I'm familiar with Donald Knuth The Art of Computer Programming, TeX, etc. And now that you've delved into some of the better reasons, I'm all ears. Still, I would have highly chastised someone calling me about this in the middle of the night. Even if it were one of my friends 13 time zones away. ;) Cheers, Bruce -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine
On Fri, Oct 04, 2013 at 09:20:43PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: computer gaming (yawn)... Think again. What is the driving force behind all the super-duper performance hardware you have right now? Gaming. What is the GPU capable of achieving when parallelized? Well, graphics rendering is highly parallelizable and nowadays you see it in render farms and Top500 supercomputers. But those didn;t fund it, so what did? Graphics cards sold to gamers. Graphics cards for gamers are probably the only thing left really keeping the pc market as such going. Yes, there are still millions of them on corporate desktops but that is a cut-throat market and at what-tiny-number-of-bucks a pop? Bread and butter money, it keeps things ticking over and pays the rent. But gamers pay for the bling. Almost ever awesome performance gain in the last 10 years at least that you see in commercial products were driven in whole or in part by the primary high performance market - gamers. Personally, I don't like games much and don't play them much. OK, I don't play them at all. But the market they make up - that's different. Those egg-heads are very important See previous reply in thread to James. This one was not threaded, but rather, a reply to the OP, so it makes it look as if you haven't read the thread. I played one computer game one day in 1990. Lost that entire day to that stupid game, and never played again. Except...one time for a few hours with a new friend the second year living in China. He wanted me to play NFS. After playing a few races with him, I explained that we do this with _real_cars_ on _real_roads_ in _real_life_ back in America. It developed from the days of moonshining, and your car (and you as a driver) weren't anything if you couldn't outrun the local cops. ;) My gaming yawn was a poor, and needless, expression of disgust. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] s6 et al
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 09:44:35AM -0500, William Hubbs wrote: On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:04:24AM -0500, Bruce Hill wrote: Just stumbled across some very interesting software/ideas: http://skarnet.org/poweredby.html Yes, I have been looking at this for a few days, and some of the other members of the OpenRC team are interested in it as well. I am waiting for a bug to be fixed before I can put execline and s6 in the tree [1]. William [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=486744 Found that bug report earlier and CCed myself. Will track the progress, maybe use it on a test box I plan to build soon. -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure: SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more traffic out of our network going international. The in-out ratio on the peering links is seriously screwed and they badly want something to even it out a bit :-) Just for giggles I tried it too, from the US. Slower than turtles mating. ;) -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] KVM on AMD ... why doesn't it just work?
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 06:47:21PM +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Rather simple issue: I have a kernel in boot with the suffix -safe ... and this one got listed first in grub.conf. kerninst found that one and always set that one as default so my various recompilings never changed the kernel itself but only the modules ... which lead to strange mismatches ... Now I am on a clean and mrproper 3.10.7-r1 ... WITH /dev/kvm ! Thanks! And the performance of the first VM looks good ... even with the vmdk ... conversion will follow. Stefan rm kerninst less /usr/src/linux/README (proper instructions) wash, rinse, repeat :-) -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN
On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 11:54:30PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On 02/10/2013 20:48, Bruce Hill wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 05:45:13PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Then you can all use mine with the greatest of pleasure: SYNC=rsync://ftp.is.co.za/gentoo-portage I have the NetOps team BEGGING me weekly to try and generate more traffic out of our network going international. The in-out ratio on the peering links is seriously screwed and they badly want something to even it out a bit :-) Just for giggles I tried it too, from the US. Slower than turtles mating. ;) Give the poor thing a break - it's not dedicated to Gentoo :-) There's about 11TB of mirrors on that host = full copies of every major distro, most of the popular middle teir ones and full copies of all 3 BSDs The general public keep it busy - I blame them :-) I didn't mean anything disrespectful (notice my winky), just that from the US it's rather slow. But it's still listed, commented, in make.conf. Thanks, Alan! -- Happy Penguin Computers ') 126 Fenco Drive ( \ Tupelo, MS 38801 ^^ supp...@happypenguincomputers.com 662-269-2706 662-205-6424 http://happypenguincomputers.com/ A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail? Don't top-post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_post#Top-posting
[gentoo-user] emerge --sync issue on only one comp on LAN
There are 3 (or more) computers which sync (sometimes daily) on my LAN at work: server, router, and workstation. server has issues almost all the time getting a rsync server (for lack of better way to state it). All three comps have the exact same SYNC in make.conf: mingdao@server ~ $ grep SYNC /etc/make.conf SYNC=rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage mingdao@router ~ $ grep SYNC /etc/portage/make.conf SYNC=rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage mingdao@workstation ~ $ grep SYNC /etc/portage/make.conf SYNC=rsync://rsync.us.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage When I first noticed, it was that with the same command (alias ud) run on each computer, server *always* took a good deal longer than workstation and router. Here's the output from the emerge --sync portion of my ud alias today: alias ud='eix-sync emerge -aDjuv --changed-use @world dispatch-conf emerge -a --depclean revdep-rebuild -i clear exit' server ~ # ud * Running emerge --sync Synchronization of repository 'gentoo' located in '/usr/portage'... Starting rsync with rsync://128.61.111.9/gentoo-portage... Checking server timestamp ... timed out rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(549) [Receiver=3.0.9] Retrying... Starting retry 1 of 9 with rsync://209.59.138.21/gentoo-portage Checking server timestamp ... timed out rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(549) [Receiver=3.0.9] Retrying... Starting retry 2 of 9 with rsync://128.175.60.112/gentoo-portage Checking server timestamp ... timed out rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(549) [Receiver=3.0.9] Retrying... Starting retry 3 of 9 with rsync://129.21.171.98/gentoo-portage Checking server timestamp ... receiving incremental file list timestamp.chk Number of files: 1 Number of files transferred: 1 Total file size: 32 bytes Total transferred file size: 32 bytes Literal data: 32 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 27 File list generation time: 0.001 seconds File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds Total bytes sent: 98 Total bytes received: 140 sent 98 bytes received 140 bytes 158.67 bytes/sec total size is 32 speedup is 0.13 receiving incremental file list router ~ # ud * Running emerge --sync Synchronization of repository 'gentoo' located in '/usr/portage'... Starting rsync with rsync://208.100.4.53/gentoo-portage... Checking server timestamp ... Welcome! This is a gentoo-portage and CentOS mirror, hosted by Steadfast Networks! http://steadfast.net Hostname: mirror.steadfast.net rsync11.us.gentoo.org IP Addresses: 208.100.4.53 2607:f128:1:3::2 Location: Chicago, IL, US Bandwidth:1000 Mbps Hardware: Dual Opteron 2212, 8 GB RAM User Limit: 40 If you experience any trouble with this mirror, please contact mir...@steadfast.net. receiving incremental file list timestamp.chk Number of files: 1 Number of files transferred: 1 Total file size: 32 bytes Total transferred file size: 32 bytes Literal data: 32 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 27 File list generation time: 0.001 seconds File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds Total bytes sent: 98 Total bytes received: 570 sent 98 bytes received 570 bytes 445.33 bytes/sec total size is 32 speedup is 0.05 Welcome! This is a gentoo-portage and CentOS mirror, hosted by Steadfast Networks! http://steadfast.net Hostname: mirror.steadfast.net rsync11.us.gentoo.org IP Addresses: 208.100.4.53 2607:f128:1:3::2 Location: Chicago, IL, US Bandwidth:1000 Mbps Hardware: Dual Opteron 2212, 8 GB RAM User Limit: 40 If you experience any trouble with this mirror, please contact mir...@steadfast.net. receiving incremental file list workstation ~ # ud * Running emerge --sync Synchronization of repository 'gentoo' located in '/usr/portage'... Starting rsync with rsync://209.221.142.124/gentoo-portage... Checking server timestamp ... Gentoo Portage/CPAN rsync mirror Server: gentoo.llarian.net cpan.llarian.net IP(s): 209.221.142.124 2001:5d8:11::13 Bandwidth: 1000Mbps via multiple carriers User Limit: 30 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Admin Contact: Dylan Vanderhoof llar...@llarian.net receiving incremental file list timestamp.chk Number of files: 1 Number of files transferred: 1 Total file size: 32 bytes Total transferred file size: 32 bytes Literal data: 32 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 27 File list generation time: 0.001 seconds File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds Total bytes sent: 98 Total bytes received: 392 sent 98 bytes received 392 bytes 326.67 bytes/sec total size is 32 speedup is 0.07 Gentoo Portage/CPAN rsync mirror Server: gentoo.llarian.net cpan.llarian.net IP(s): 209.221.142.124 2001:5d8:11::13 Bandwidth: 1000Mbps via multiple carriers User Limit: 30 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Admin Contact: Dylan Vanderhoof llar...@llarian.net receiving incremental file list Can anyone
