Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
Interesting. When I used IMAP in Mutt, rather than offlineimap, I was really frustrated by the constant lag within Mutt from syncing with the server. Offlineimap isn't the fastest ever at syncing either, but at least it happens all in one go, and then the full contents of all the emails I care about are on my local machine. I'd love to see your config to see if I can improve things. Julian On 03/21, Lee wrote: When I have a moment I'll send my Gmail enabled muttrc for u to ponder. Imap with Gmail on mutt is seamless ime. On Mar 21, 2015 3:42 PM, Julian Simioni jul...@simioni.org wrote: I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best. The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely Mutt, it's really quite good. http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ Julian On 03/21, German wrote: I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the optimal USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about to emerge it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or remove something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks! -- German gentger...@gmail.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt emerge USE flags for novice
I don't currently use Mutt with Gmail, but one common suggestion is to use an external program like offlineimap for handling syncing. I remember hearing that Mutt's IMAP support is not the best. The guide I followed to get set up initially is Steve Losh's The Homely Mutt, it's really quite good. http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/the-homely-mutt/ Julian On 03/21, German wrote: I am about to emerge Mutt and wanted to ask community what are the optimal USE flags for novice. I am going to use it with gmail. I am about to emerge it with the following USE flags: berkdb, crypt, gdbm, nls, ssl, gpg, imap, mbox, pop, sasl, sidebar, smtp. If anyone feel I should add or remove something from USE, feel free to tell me. Thanks! -- German gentger...@gmail.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub2 can't find any commands
That's an excellent utility, I'll definitely add it to my toolbox, thanks. I actually was able to solve my problem myself: shortly after posting I found a post by renergy on the forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6988228.html It looks like the magic parameters to grub2-install are --root-directory and --boot-directory. Annoyingly, --root-directory is not listed in the help output or man page, so I had no easy way of knowing it existed. But at least everything works now. On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.comwrote: Here's a marvelous program crying out for an ebuild; https://launchpad.net/boot-repair It's part of my Ubuntu setup. With one click it goes out and finds all the boot partitions on your hd(s) and automatically writes the proper grub2 configuration for them. It even pastebins a copy of grub.cfg for troubleshooting purposes, though I have never needed it, sof far. When you boot all your OSes are there in the menu ready to be selected. In my case Ubuntu, Gentoo and Sabayon. . On 3/21/12, Julian Simioni julian.simi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm working on the exciting and challenging task of installing Gentoo on a new Macbook Pro with grub2 and EFI. I've got things booting, but every time grub complains of many missing commands including search, echo, and most surprisingly '['. It also can't find any modules, and in order to get everything to work I had to specify about 10 modules to be built in using grub2-mkimage. This feels a little suboptimal to me, but I can't figure out where various things need to be for grub to find them happily. My partition layout at least is simple since I don't plan on dual booting: /dev/sda1: big root partition using ext4 /dev/sda2: 200MB vfat EFI partition, set to bootable (yes this should be sda1: I didn't know you needed an EFI partition until after I had already made the root partition and started installing things. I was able to add this partition later with gparted) Of course I'm using GPT, not MBR. On /dev/sda2 I've got the grub2 image at /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI as is standard, and I have been mounting /dev/sda2 at /boot/efi. I can put either a grub2 image or a 3.3 kernel with EFI stub support at /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI and it gets detected just fine, so I'm on the right track. I've tried messing with various permutations of the -p parameter to grub2-mkimage, but haven't gotten anywhere. Right now the *.mod and *.lst files from /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/ can be found at both /boot/grub2/x86_64-efi and /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/. Where is it that they actually should be? Thanks, Julian
[gentoo-user] Grub2 can't find any commands
Hi all, I'm working on the exciting and challenging task of installing Gentoo on a new Macbook Pro with grub2 and EFI. I've got things booting, but every time grub complains of many missing commands including search, echo, and most surprisingly '['. It also can't find any modules, and in order to get everything to work I had to specify about 10 modules to be built in using grub2-mkimage. This feels a little suboptimal to me, but I can't figure out where various things need to be for grub to find them happily. My partition layout at least is simple since I don't plan on dual booting: /dev/sda1: big root partition using ext4 /dev/sda2: 200MB vfat EFI partition, set to bootable (yes this should be sda1: I didn't know you needed an EFI partition until after I had already made the root partition and started installing things. I was able to add this partition later with gparted) Of course I'm using GPT, not MBR. On /dev/sda2 I've got the grub2 image at /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI as is standard, and I have been mounting /dev/sda2 at /boot/efi. I can put either a grub2 image or a 3.3 kernel with EFI stub support at /EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI and it gets detected just fine, so I'm on the right track. I've tried messing with various permutations of the -p parameter to grub2-mkimage, but haven't gotten anywhere. Right now the *.mod and *.lst files from /usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/ can be found at both /boot/grub2/x86_64-efi and /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/. Where is it that they actually should be? Thanks, Julian
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage during emerge
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Hello list It came to my attention that during (after) an emerge run, df reports considerably less space available on my / than before the emerge (everything except /home sits on the root partition). I was wondering how this comes to be, since I have /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs. I am in the middle of a KDE upgrade (4.8.0→4.8.1) right now and before I started, I downloaded all distfiles and then looked at df /, it showed 1022 blocks, hence about 1 GB of free disk space. I am at package 115 out of 174 right now, and df shows a mere 389k blocks remaining. Also before I began the emerge run, I started 'ncdu -x /' which scans all dirs on the / partition and then I can browse through my FS hieararchy, showing the disk usage of every directory. Now I ran the same ncdu command again in another screen, so I can compare it with the first one. The folders themselves have 0.1 to 0.2 GB difference between their old and new state, and ncdu's bottom bar even shows the same values for both apparent and real total disk usage (rounded to 0.1 GB). So what am I missing here? I searched df's man page for something about apparent sizes/sparse files, but then again, why would portage create such files in the first place? Do you have any thoughts that might help me understand what I'm seeing? -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. You will find everything in an online database. Just not what you are looking for. Unless you have it mounted on tmpfs for increased compilation speed as many others do, /var/tmp/portage can easily grow to several hundred megabytes as packages are compiled. Once the compilation finishes successfully, it will be cleaned up, so the contents are constantly changing during an emerge, and it may not be easy to track down after the fact.
Re: [gentoo-user] Disk usage during emerge
On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Julian Simioni julian.simi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Hello list It came to my attention that during (after) an emerge run, df reports considerably less space available on my / than before the emerge (everything except /home sits on the root partition). I was wondering how this comes to be, since I have /var/tmp/portage on tmpfs. I am in the middle of a KDE upgrade (4.8.0→4.8.1) right now and before I started, I downloaded all distfiles and then looked at df /, it showed 1022 blocks, hence about 1 GB of free disk space. I am at package 115 out of 174 right now, and df shows a mere 389k blocks remaining. Also before I began the emerge run, I started 'ncdu -x /' which scans all dirs on the / partition and then I can browse through my FS hieararchy, showing the disk usage of every directory. Now I ran the same ncdu command again in another screen, so I can compare it with the first one. The folders themselves have 0.1 to 0.2 GB difference between their old and new state, and ncdu's bottom bar even shows the same values for both apparent and real total disk usage (rounded to 0.1 GB). So what am I missing here? I searched df's man page for something about apparent sizes/sparse files, but then again, why would portage create such files in the first place? Do you have any thoughts that might help me understand what I'm seeing? -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. You will find everything in an online database. Just not what you are looking for. Unless you have it mounted on tmpfs for increased compilation speed as many others do, /var/tmp/portage can easily grow to several hundred megabytes as packages are compiled. Once the compilation finishes successfully, it will be cleaned up, so the contents are constantly changing during an emerge, and it may not be easy to track down after the fact. And only after hitting send to I register the line where you mention that you do in fact use tmpfs. doh!
Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice 2.3.0 compile error - Firefox
On Nov 28, 2007 11:56 AM, Pongracz Istvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I decided to compile openoffice 2.3.0 but I run into an error. The compilation error is this: checking whether to enable build of Mozilla/Mozilla NSS-using components... yes checking whether to build Mozilla addressbook connectivity... no, not possible with system-mozilla checking whether to build XML Security support... yes checking whether to build LDAP configuration backend... no checking which mozilla to use... external checking which Mozilla flavour to use... Firefox checking for firefox-xpcom ... Package firefox-firefox-nspr was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `firefox-firefox-nspr.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable Package 'firefox-firefox-nspr', required by 'XPCOM', not found configure: error: Library requirements (firefox-xpcom ) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them. make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1 The compilation parameters are: [ebuild N] app-office/openoffice-2.3.0 USE=cairo cups dbus eds firefox gnome gstreamer gtk java mono pam sound webdav -binfilter -debug -kde -ldap -odk -seamonkey -xulrunner LINGUAS=en hu -af -ar -as_IN -be_BY -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -dz -el -en_GB -en_US -en_ZA -eo -es -et -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -gu_IN -he -hi_IN -hr -it -ja -km -ko -ku -lt -lv -mk -ml_IN -mr_IN -nb -ne -nl -nn -nr -ns -or_IN -pa_IN -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -sh_YU -sk -sl -sr_CS -ss -st -sv -sw_TZ -ta_IN -te_IN -tg -th -ti_ER -tn -tr -ts -uk -ur_IN -ve -vi -xh -zh_CN -zh_TW -zu 0 kB My firefox has the following USE flags: gnome ipv6 java linguas_hu I would like to ask a hint, how to solve this strange error? I did not find any useful on the internet. Yet. Thank you, István -- eGroupWare, gLiveCD, gentoo és barátai http://www.osbusiness.hu „A humor a méltóság támasza, fölényünket hirdeti mindazzal szemben, amit a sors ránk mér. (Romain Gary) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Are you by chance using Firefox beta 3?
Re: [gentoo-user] Sony Viao Vista and Gentoo
On 7/19/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I seem to have an adventure every time I set up a dual boot laptop with Windows and Gentoo. The last time I found out that HP will ship you an OEM install CD so after formatting the hard drive (deleting the windows hidden partition) you can put windows on any partition you want and not have the MS running partition conditioning on the linux and grub sectors. Grub is the bootloader/manager. I do not trust MS, but, we still have critical windows software we have to use from time to time. Sony does not offer such a OEM CD. They say I can purchase the Vista CD at retail prices (not fond of this option). Sony does purport to have a good web site for individual device drivers at esupport.sony.com, although I have not used it (yet). Sony also said that XP will run on this new VIAO (model PCG-384L) laptop. I not so sure Vista is better than XP. I want grub as the bootloader. Right now my best option seems to be: purchase a copy of vista or XP from the local university ($30) and install it on a new partition and use Grub as the bootloader. Install Gentoo too. Have I missed anything? Any other comments or insight is most welcome. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Depending on what software you need to run, running Windows in VMware can work quite well. I assume that Sony gave you a restore disc that will erase everything and restore your computer to its original state. You MAY be able to use this disc to install windows on a VMware virtual machine. However I have a feeling the restore disc will not be happy about installing in an environment that does not match the hardware of your laptop. It's worth a shot though. Julian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Linux becomes expensive ;)
On 7/18/07, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/18/07, Hendrik Boom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:49:21 -0500, Dan Farrell wrote: it takes just as much power to spin up the drive as to keep it spinning for a few extra minutes. So ... spin it down after a few more minutes? -- hendrik No, only spin it down when the savings from the down cycle outweigh the power cost of spinup+spindown (I don't know whether spindown uses extra power, to brake the drive or anything). Say you have a drive that uses 1W/m (huge, but I'm being merciful to my math skills) while in usage, and requires 5W to spinup. If you're going to shut it down for 1m, you're looking at saving 1W and using 5, net use of 4, when leaving it spinning would only use 1. However, if it's going to be inactive for 30 min, you're using 5 and saving 30, net savings of 25. -- Ryan W Sims -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Ryan, You're certainly right that hard drives take more power to start up but I think the arbitrary values you used don't quite represent what really goes on. First though, let me help you with your units. Watts, a unit measuring power, is defined as energy per time period. A device that requires 5 watts and runs for 1 minute will use the same amount of energy as a 10 watt device running for 30 seconds. I think what you really meant to use was Joules, which measures energy. 1 joule per second is one watt. Now, as for the wattage values you supplied. A quick question posed to google lead me to http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/storage/hddpower.html where you can see a listing of power consumption for various hard drives (mostly models that would be used in servers, but they will do) when idle, under use, and most importantly at start up. Looking at the values, it seems that saying a drive uses 12W while active, 8W while idle, and 30W at startup seem reasonable. I don't see anything indicating how long a drive takes to spin up, but I would assume it's something rather short. Let's say 5 seconds (which is probably longer than it actually takes). So here is your hard drive, happily powered up but idle, using 8 watts of power. Since it is idle, you might be wondering if it should be turned off to save power. Since it seems a drive uses 30 watts for 5 seconds when powering up, this is 30x5 or 150 joules. At 8 watts, it will take 150/8 or 18.75 seconds to use 150 joules. Therefore, if this hard drive is going to be idle for more than 18.75 seconds it makes sense to shut it off. Of course real drives will almost certainly be different, but the point is it only would seem to take a few seconds of idle time before powering down makes sense. Also one could argue that this doesn't take into account the effects of wear and tear when stopping/starting drives, but I personally believe those effects are negligible. Finally, an interesting thing about hard drives is that when they are spinning down (at least when power has been unexpectedly cut off), the motor that spins the platters is used as a generator, taking the energy of the spinning drive to move the read/write heads to the parked position, so there is no power cost associated with powering down a drive. Julian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
