Re: [gentoo-user] Asus Eee Gentoo install - no CD drive
Hello On Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 08:01:51AM -0700, Grant wrote: I'm very familiar with installing Gentoo via LiveCD, but I'm not sure how to go about it without a CD drive. I'm sure there are many exotic options to choose from, but I'd rather not have to learn too much new stuff to get this done. Can anyone recommend a simple method? I have a wired/wireless LAN/internet connection and 3 systems on the LAN running Gentoo. No USB drive though. Do you have an USB flashdisk? You could get some kind of DSL or so and install from it (you do not need gentoo LiveCD, any reasonable running linux is OK). -- Anything is possible, unless it's not. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpxXtzmcyjT5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem building statically linked e2fsprogs
Hello (Original post too long to quote) How about building it dynamically and taking all the needed libraries as well? I had similar problem (I needed fsck.ext3 in my init ramdisk) and I just used ldd to find out what does it need. You can test if it has enough by copying the thinks indo a directory, chrooting there and trying out if it runs. I hope it helps -- When all else fails, EAT!!! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpiVJj0anDDP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.5 and xf86-video-i810 [SOLVED]
Hello On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:03:34PM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: Short version: If you upgrade to xorg-x11-7.4, xorg-server-1.5 and xf86-video-i810-2.4.2-r1, and X does not start, change Section Device Driver i810 to intel in your xorg.conf. Would have been nice if Portage had informed us of this. I went trough this too (I had to run X -configure to see it changed the driver). However, the intel driver does not seem to work that well, glxgears won't start for me any longer (Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual). Not that I would really need that one, nor any other GL application, it just bothers me to have something not working ;-). Have you seen this error too? Thank you -- I have a theory that it's impossible to prove anything, but I can't prove it. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpETp7EsarWL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Trying to block third party ip address with iptables...
Hello On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 11:36:13PM +0200, pk wrote: I am using shorewall on my local computer (the same I'm surfing the web with). My skills with iptables are not really good and my understanding of networking also has some holes in it... However, I'm trying to prevent firefox from accessing a third party site; I'm logging onto a site with firefox. With netstat I can see that besides the usual ip address belonging to the site another ip-address (not belonging to the original site) shows up. While trying to block the additional ip address with both iptables -A INPUT -s -j DROP and iptables -A OUTPUT -d -j DROP it still sends a SYN request to this site. This makes firefox just sit there waiting for a time-out. How can I prevent firefox from accessing the other site, while still accessing the original one? If I let aside it is quite odd it would have accessed two sites at once (either a virus/cracked computer or one is just closed, or maybe just an external image), using DROP is plain wrong. You should REJECT (or it is reject, I'm not sure about the case) the packets (at output in this case). DROP causes the packet to get blackholed without a trace. It sometimes happens to packets on internet so it is usual to try again and again until it succeeds or timeout (usually in tens of seconds) is reached. If you reject it (either with port or destination unreachable or even with administratively filtered), the other side knows it has no reason to try again and reports failure right away and saves the traffic and resources by not trying. Some people say drop does not show you exist but reject does. That is wrong too, destination unreachable means There is no such machine with this IP, so it should hide the whole machine better than drop (if I send packets and no errors nor responses come, I suspect a firewall as well as malfunction). Does this help? Have a nice help -- BOFH Excuse #452: Somebody ran the operating system through a spelling checker. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpdBMlpOEeal.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Ati or Nvida
Hello On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:42:22PM +0430, Platoali wrote: And I want to know which one is better supported in Linux kernel regardless of how much open/free the drivers is. I'm currently thinking between Nvidia Quadro fx 1700 and Ati firegl 5600. Does anyone have any comment about them? I had an nvidia some time ago (2 years). I had to give up 3D, since the proprietary drivers gave me hell. Only about every third version worked (only with every second kernel version). Even when it worked, it sometimes crashed the whole kernel or didn't render fonts. Now I have intel i915 and I'm happy. It is not a strong card, but it supports 3D, I'm able to even play games on it, it allows plugging in monitors at runtime (with X capable of resizing the screen pretending it is xinerama). I have no experience with ati. -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpXmvmeFTSn0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Harddisk priority
Hello On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 10:53:12AM +0200, Thomas Pedersen wrote: I'm running a few processes in a cron-job, which makes the harddisk quiet busy, like the emerge --sync command. I know it's possible to nice them to use less CPU power, but is there a similar approach for reading/writing to the disk? I heard of tool called ionice, which does exactly this. AFAIK it needs a kernel patch. -- BOFH Excuse #430: Mouse has out-of-cheese-error Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpncUiwWKd7k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] wpa_supplicant confusion
Hello On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 06:15:11PM +0100, Mick wrote: wlan0 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:daddy Mode:Managed Frequency:2.442 GHz Access Point: 00:18:4D:AE:55:2C Bit Rate=12 Mb/s Tx-Power=27 dBm Retry min limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr=2346 B Encryption key:8B7B-9671-89 Link Quality=31/100 Signal level=-56 dBm I do not know your card, but mine works with link quality above 60/100, below that doesn't do much. The ping times are because there are link-level retransmits, so it tries many times and it sometimes succeeds. If you get closer to the AP, is it still a problem? -- All flame and insults will go to /dev/null (if they fit) Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp5u8KSLjqAc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] /boot keeps mounting itself
Hello On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 01:39:17PM -0700, Grant wrote: I've been noticing this for awhile and it's time I ask you guys about it: # mount /boot # umount /boot # mount /boot mount: /dev/hda1 already mounted or /boot busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda1 is already mounted on /boot A few hours elapsed after the second command was issued, but these commands were issued sequentially. I guess something in the system is mounting /boot? If you run mount without parameters, it tells you list of mounted filesystem. So you can have a look, if it is really mounted. -- There is one difference between linux and windows. With windows, you pay for the software, but you get all the T-shirts for free. With linux, you get all the software for free, but you buy the T-shirts. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpuzYTtNu0Ne.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing list and PGP/MIME
Hello On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 04:08:02AM +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: Disagree, because of the possibility that without signatures it's relatively easy to bring a subscriber into discredit. Relatively easy? Well, hereby I give you my blessing and dare you to send a proof of concept message to this list imposing as me. Additional condition: you must have no other access to Gmail than what is granted to everyone outside the company. If you succeed I promise to sign every single email I send from that point on. :) You can set your own From:, Reply-To: and other headers. You do not change the Received: path, but this is enough for many people. Shall I show it? -- This email was generated by a biological random generator. If you want more random text, just respond to this email. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgploXtcLm7pN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC broke my LVM?
Hello On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 06:05:06AM +0100, Matt Harrison wrote: Now after a reboot I can't mount my LVM partitions, my raid is working fine, but nothing I can do will discover my lvm partitions or volumes. If i try to manually start the lvm service, I get the message about it being written for baselayout-2 and not being suitable for baselayout-1. Do I read correctly you have new version of LVM that needs baselayout 2, but you have only baselayout 1? (If so, then probably much of the parallel thread is solving completely different problem) -- Anything is possible, unless it's not. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp2vXJfWuDul.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRC broke my LVM?
Hello On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 12:14:02PM +0100, Matt Harrison wrote: Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: Do I read correctly you have new version of LVM that needs baselayout 2, but you have only baselayout 1? (If so, then probably much of the parallel thread is solving completely different problem) Problem is, I wasn't watching the emerge, so I'm not sure what did happen. It would appear that some package, probably LVM, has gotten out of sync with another critical package. I'm just not sure how to get things back in sync again You could try booting the life CD, mount anything like it should and chroot to the installation. Then you can check out versions of baselayout and the LVM packages and the too now one downgrade (or upgrade the too old one, but it probably means getting into baselayout-2, if you want it). I hope it helps. -- Fragile. Do not turn umop ap1sdn! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpVLhPC8IF6x.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] What overwrites resolv.conf
Hello On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 09:07:29AM -0700, Michael Higgins wrote: So, what overwrites it, when, how, and how to stop it? Is there a definitive guide to the syntax of the various config files? Or, BETTER YET, is there anyone who has a smoothly-functioning configuration to switch between wireless DHCP and connected hard-wired net setups and would like to share? I didn't like the way Gentoo handled network (wifi OK, but ethernet with different locations was a pain somehow), so I wrote a little perl thing I use as a network manager. However, I think noone who did not read and understand its code is able to use it to anything, since it has no documentation and completely non-intuitive control. You can find it here http://vorner.pretel.cz/en/netprofile.html, if you feel brave enough. If anyone is interested, I can answer questions about it off-list (not to scare others). -- I left the ssh key under the doormat Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpd102xAQmUD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Best practices - flexible XServer
Hello On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 11:48:31AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote: 1. usage of my own Logitech mouse as well as typical USB-mice and my touchpad. You probably can define separate device section for: • touchpad • your logitech mouse • any other mouse and in the server layout have touchpad as core device (CorePointer) and the other ones have as SendCoreEvents ‒ which marks it as slave device when present and does not need it to be there to start. 2. USB-keyboards as well as the build-in, all with custom multimedia and Fn-keys. This works for me with only one keyboard section and, I just had to make the keybindings and some assignments in .Xmodmap. 3. external displays (VGA, DVI, LCD and TV-Out, one at a time would be enough) with different aspects and resolutions with 3D-acceleration on my Intel i945. You can use xrandr and it's ability to add/remove screens while running. Do you want to see the config and/or some scripts I use to manage it? -- You can't have everything... where would you put it? -- Steven Wright Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp0VQpJwf4Od.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] init 1, root device is busy :(
Hello On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 09:18:04PM +0200, Gyuszk wrote: 3.) Other solution? man shutdown: -F Force fsck on reboot. (I know, this one is not really intuitive) -- Work with computer has 2 phases. First, computer waits for the user to tell it what to do, then the user waits for the computer to do it. Therefore, computer work consists mostly of waiting. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp3rfgp9Z9ty.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT Best font selection?
Hello On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 07:36:40PM +0200, Liviu Andronic wrote: Although perfectly aware that this is a much subjective business, I am looking for best fonts, and would much appreciate your sharing of personal choices. This Wiki article [1] has some insight, but not sufficient to satisfy my quest. I use Deja-vu fonts, mostly because it is whole pack (all kinds looking similar) and have Czech diacritics. -- Wait few minutes before opening this email. The temperature difference could lead to vapour condensation. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpDOeoIKKCDz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] scp escape characters
Hello On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 03:06:05PM +0100, Mick wrote: Hi All, I was trying to scp a file which had spaces in its name; e.g. This\ is\ the\ name\ of\ it.txt There is a problem ‒ it unescapes at both ends, so you need to double-escape it, like 'Filename\ with\ spaces' or Filename\\\ with\\\ spaces. Or, something like that (if I see it right). -- Support your right to arm bears!! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpl24Zn0rhPD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?
Hello On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:13:40PM +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote: I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend? I use dnsmasq, can be used as a LAN cache too (by simply allowing requests from a given interface). Took me about 30 minutes to configure. I asked dhcp to save to resolv.conf.2 and made resolv.conf to request from localhost. -- ~, sweet ~ Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp8l1ioXzK9Y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?
Hello On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 02:45:18PM +0400, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:13:40PM +0200, Ralf Stephan wrote: I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend? I use dnsmasq, can be used as a LAN cache too (by simply allowing requests from a given interface). Took me about 30 minutes to configure. I asked dhcp to save to resolv.conf.2 and made resolv.conf to request from localhost. What about permanent (with saving to hdd) caching? It seems like pdnsd do this thing only... Does not seem to matter here much, since I suspend, not turn off. But anyway, most DNS names should be cached only few hours, half a day or so (well, there are some that have week long timeouts, but not many). -- chown -R us $BASE Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpb1MefE5rBg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Clone a running gentoo machine onto another machine
Hello On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 10:29:39PM +0300, Benyamin Dvoskin wrote: I've been wondering how one can clone an entire gentoo system and copy it to another physical machine , while the original system is still running ( means , ghost , acronis and other tools that force me to shutdown the system are not acceptable ) So , someone told me to try just tar the whole system to the other machine and untar it there. rsync is usually faster, as it reads the first one and writes to the second one at the same time. You should read its' man page, there are nice things like '-x' flag (so it copies only one filesystem and does not enter sub-filesystems, like dev and) As it uses ssh by default, you need only sshd on the remote server and you can tweak thinks like compression while transferring. -- All flame and insults will go to /dev/null (if they fit) Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpJAfTajkT6S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter
Hello On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:43:58PM -0500, Dale wrote: I haven't kept up with this but isn't there a hotplug/coldplug monitor that detects things like this? I'm thinking hotplug is the correct one since the machine is powered up. I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime. -- Support your right to arm bears!! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpWHbsjcLaHP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Emergency shutdown, how to?
Hello On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 09:11:53AM +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Anybody ever do it and can tell me how long a shutdown takes? As long as you need to strike the keys. Not really true. I have set my dirty cache timeout to 10 minutes, so it can hold some few hundred megabytes of unsynced data (happens rarely), so it can take like 10 seconds to dump them to disk. But with clean cache, it is as fast as hitting a hard switch. -- Hallowed be the zeroes and ones Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpfCKbpetqm3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Unplugging USB wireless adapter
Hello On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 11:42:18AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 11:09:08 +0100, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: I think it is no longer needed and udev should take care of all this. At last, I do not have hotplug nor coldplug and inserting/removing all usb devices, laptop modules, PCMCIAs works on runtime. That's fine with most devices, but causes a problem with network adaptors. No hotplug system can anticipate your removing the device and unmount NFS shares before you do it, so the only safe way to remove a USB NIC is to bring down the interface first. Yes, sure. It can't unmount it and terminate the connections. However, there is no reason why the device shouldn't be detected again. And, if hotplug can do it, why couldn't udev? I was just saying hotplug is outdated and replaced by udev. -- This email was generated by a biological random generator. If you want more random text, just respond to this email. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp5TXAVJkffm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 1/2 OT: What Linux could learn from mainframes ?
Hello On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 03:12:13AM +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * defect management directly on block basis (w/o additional stacking layers). IMO dividing things into layers/parts is good. It allows for replacing one layer, or not using some of them if they are not needed. * distributed storages (not just disks, but several hosts) That sounds interesting. * volumes attributes which let the volume manager decide how/where to actually store blocks, eg.: Is there a real need for this? (Just wondering) -- Wait few minutes before opening this email. The temperature difference could lead to vapour condensation. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpBQEUlYqGXQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo router: Conntrack table full
Hello On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:26:16PM -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote: On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have SSH to a server, two open ports for bit torrent connections and a few ranges for DCC transfers from irc. Torrents can sometimes open thousands of connections (yes, it is very aggressive way of transferring data). And if you have something like Skype, they a full table is not something unusual. So IMO it could be DoS, but it can be some application that doesn't know what is polite behaviour. -- This is a terroristic email. It will explode in 10 minutes, if you do not close it in the meantime. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpzzJptJ3u9m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] HELP! partition table is corrupted
Hello On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 12:01:08PM +0100, pat wrote: My brother has a second disk where was two partitions formated as NTFS (the big one) and FAT32 (small one), but something brakes the partition table and now there are two linux partition tables +/- the size of the previous logical drives. Which SW should I use to recover the original partition table? I think about gpart, but does it has a GUI? I'm not guru at this :-\ Recovering will be really hard think, if you do not know the exact numbers there, it is probably impossible. But you may be lucky and nothing wrote to the data part. In that case, it should be relatively easy to save the first partition of the two. Grab fdisk (the unix one is probably better, it does exactly what you tell it to do and has better help) and create a single partition over the whole disk, then mount it read-only (so nothing can get corrupted, if you do something wrong). You should be able to get the data from there. I wish you luck -- When eating an elephant take one bite at a time. -- Gen. C. Abrams Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpltrfDLJ9Ab.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.0.2 and composite
Hello On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 09:47:51PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 11 March 2008, Uwe Thiem wrote: set xcomposite in USE. It'll rebuild a couple of things: Hm ... It will only re-emerge kdebase-3.5.9-r1 here. That doesn't seem right. KDE is can be emerged in two ways ‒ monolitic (big packages) and split (many small ones). This seems you have the monolitic one, so it will reemerge only one big instead of few small ones. -- Please stay calm. There is no use both of us being hysterical. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpoMGqKnrlMt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS changes
Hello On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 01:53:56PM +, James wrote: Current CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe I want to add -fomit-frame-pointer to my CFLAGS on an existing system that has been running for months. Vim syntax highlighting does not show it in red, so I guess it means it is considered generally safe. I seldom recompile the whole system (actually, I did it once only, for split-debug install-sources make effect) and never get much problems. Usually revdep-rebuild solves them all. However, the new flag will be used only in newly compiled packages, so you might have a reason for the rebuild. At the last note, I noticed a use flag for glibc about omit frame pointer, so you might want to turn that on. -- This email has been checked by an automatic damage possibility check system. It can contain harmful instructions if read backwards. Internal checker ID: lacol.cr/cte/ tlah ohce Michal 'vorner' Vaner -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge can not work !
Hello On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 09:35:54AM +0100, Stéphane ANCELOT wrote: I made a silly mistake : emerge --unmerge python* now emerge does not work anymore since it needs python !!! Any idea ? If you install python manually, emerge should start working. Then you can emerge it and get back to normal. -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal 'vorner' Vaner -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux, reiserfs and file fragmentation
Hello On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 05:06:43AM -0600, Dale wrote: My questions; is this badly fragmented? How can I unfragment all the files and not bork something up badly? My opinion on this tho, considering this install is about 4 years old, not to bad. I've seen worse on a windoze rig shortly after a install. ;-) I would guess the fragmented files are the big ones. And, with average of 2 fragments per file, it is not too much. If you have a movie with 30MB fragments, then it is no problem. Unless you hear lot of rattling noise from the HDD, you could leave it as is. And the surest way to defragment a filesystem is take everything out and put it back again. It will write the files one after another and will have no reason to split them. -- XML is like violence. If it doesn't solve your problem, use more. Michal 'vorner' Vaner -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sending IMs from a script
Hello On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 10:04:31AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: I would have thought this was easy, but I've looked around and can't find a program that will send IMs from a script. I need to be able to send alerts to people from a monitoring program. I have a solution for you (thought I do not know how this is related to gentoo). Look at http://vorner.pretel.cz/en/projects.html#jelnet -- it's a jabber telnet, you can let it connect to server and pipe some raw protocol into it. So you need something like: jeltet [EMAIL PROTECTED] --password=password END message to='[EMAIL PROTECTED]' type='headline' subjectNotification/subject bodyThis is your notification/body /message END It has a disadvantage -- it logs in, sends a message and logs out every time you send a notification. If you want to send from time to time, it is no problem, but with a notification every minute or so, it can be an issue. (Then you might need some fifo, cat, and tricks like that) I hope this helps. -- I left the ssh key under the doormat Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp1YoUuzuxyj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CFLAGS
Hello On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 02:54:42PM -0500, Kenneth Prugh wrote: CFLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mtune=native -pipe Could this happen a default in clean installation/manual sometime? Most people could leave this lake it is and never think about what flags to use. -- Please stay calm. There is no use both of us being hysterical. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp47jAQRVpxo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] TTF Fonts
Hello On Sat, Jan 12, 2008 at 01:46:20PM -0400, Naiani Rosa de Barros wrote: Hi everyone. I'd like to know if these instructions here http://www.madeinclay.net/?p=8 are still valid for adding ttf fonts to Gentoo. I don't remember what I did last time (more than 1 yr ago), but I don't think it was the same procedure. The article on Gentoo-Wiki seems outdated to me, so I'd appreciate if anyone could tell me if this is the right way. You can install many fonts by just emerging them. -- Fragile. Do not turn umop ap1sdn! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp5OAXzgJhkQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xdm login problems after recent emerge
Hello On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 10:48:52AM +, Mick wrote: Happy New Year to all! I find my self in a bit of a pickle after a recent emerge. When I enter my username+passwd at the xdm login screen it sort of tries to load up fluxbox, but within a second or so it returns to the login screen. I can't see anything worth mentioning in the logs. I have downgraded baselayout, sysvinit and freetype but the problem remains. Any ideas? These are the packages emerged recently: This sounds to me like the fluxbox starter (I'm not sure if fluxbox by itself or some script that starts it with one or two other programs) crashes. Did you try running revdep-rebuild? And, if you want to experiment, you can start X from vt, lets say: X :1.0 (on :0.0, it is already running with xdm) then switch back to vt (probably different one) and start an xterm DISPLAY=:1.0 xterm then switch back to your new X (ctrl+f8 -- f7 is the xdm one) and try starting fluxbox from the xterm to see what happens. Did it help? -- No, you will not fix me Computer Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpndmnVXPEm0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] xdm login problems after recent emerge
Hello On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 03:29:25PM +, Mick wrote: I stopped/zapped xdm, ran startx and from an xterm I was able to run fluxbox which started OK. So, I am not sure if you are right that the start up script crashes (I wonder, shouldn't I see something in the logs about it?) If it crashed wouldn't it also crash when called from within an xterm? When I ran etc-update I had to update a number of scripts (some of them were trivial - automerged) and some of them were related to halt.sh, and so on, but I cannot recall any xdm related scripts. Is there an etc-update history somewhere on my machine? I didn't mean the xdm script (which, obviously, works fine), but the script started when you log in. The one in sessions is probably the one. Actually, how it works: xdm starts X and shows the login screen. When you log in, it starts something on the X server. When the something stops (for any reason), xdm restarts X and shows the login screen again. So I think the thing started by xdm terminates too early for some reason, crash was the first idea I got. All this is just a guess, how it looks to me, I do not say it is the only possible cause (crashing X could be the cause too, and xdm would just restart it). -- Support your right to arm bears!! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpjQoUeWlAXM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] rejecting I/O to dead device
Hello
On Sun, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:47:42PM +0100, Fred Kastl wrote:
i get this message 2 -3 times within a second. This floods my logfile.
Dec 30 16:54:46 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:47 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:47 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:48 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:48 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:49 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:49 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:50 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:50 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:51 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:51 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:52 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
Dec 30 16:54:52 server kernel: scsi 2:0:0:0: rejecting I/O to dead device
but there is no scsi device 2.
I get these if I unplug an USB disk while still mounted. Could that be
your case? (Until it is unmounted, programs can try to access it and
then the driver will just reject the read/write there)
## cat /proc/scsi/scsi
It lists only the ones alive, not dead.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Does this qualify as some bug ?
Hello On Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:20:37PM +0100, Ralf Stephan wrote: While trying to prevent 'net-dns/pdnsd' to listen on TCP and on to avoid TCP queries, I changed 'tcp_server' parameter to 'off' and 'query_method' parameter to 'udp_only' in /etc/pdnsd/pdnsd.conf . But when I restarted pdnsd I found it is still listening on TCP. I checked /etc/conf.d/pdnsd and found no option related to listening to 'TCP' set. So, then I checked /etc/init.d/pdnsd and I found that 'pdnsd' has been launched with '-t' command line argument (enables the TCP server thread. pdnsd will then serve TCP and UDP queries.) . So to disable, I need to append '--notcp' to PDNSDCONFIG in /etc/conf.d/pdnsd. So I think, listening shouldn't be made by default, even if it is, then it should be in configuration file, not in init.d script . Since noone answered, I'll try. I'm not into the details of your problem but I have the impression your suggestion should be stated to the pdnsd developing community, not on gentoo. I'd qualify it as bug, but YMMV, and again, I don't know much about it. If it is a problem of init script, then it is problem in gentoo. Init scripts are distribution specific (at last, gentoo has different ones that other distros AFAIK). So, if you think it is a bug, put it into bugzilla. In the best case, someone will do something about it. In the worst case, the bug will be marked as invalid, wontfix, or something like that. Just don't get annoyed if someone simply tells it is nonsense, the people going trough bugs have too many of them and they are not always completely nice. -- BOFH Excuse #430: Mouse has out-of-cheese-error Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpMLXdP9W7oG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] rc-update can't fix broken runlevel config
Hello On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 11:15:59AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I guess I need to hand edit whatever source file or files rc-update uses. Where are they? In /etc/runlevels, there is a directory for each runlevel. That directory contains symlinks to the scripts in /etc/init.d. Just delete the ones that point to non-existing files (they are usually red in bash, if you have colors). I hope this helps. -- Hello, I'm an extension to the infamous signature virus, called spymail. Could you please copy me into your signature and send back what you were doing last night between 10pm and 3am? Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp1GuiSBXKSr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] removing X
Hello On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 11:31:16AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm attempting to remove X from a former desktop machine now going to see action as a semi-DMZ. What is the best way to go about removing X and all its files. Removing the basic x11-base/xorg-x11 is easy enough but there appears to be dozens of other X related pkgs installed. x11-proto/* has apparently dozens of relatives installed. emerge does not appear to accept globbing or maybe I'm just doing it wrong. Would just passing dozens of command line arguments to emerge be a suitable way to get rid of all the clutter? You could remove the meta-package (the one that has size 0 and depends on everything, I guess it's xorg-x11) and then emerge --depclean. You probably should check, what everything that might want to remove, as it might get the things a bit wrong, sometimes. -- When eating an elephant take one bite at a time. -- Gen. C. Abrams Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpTBIgkd0FIE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] x looses ctrl, alt and shift keys
Hello On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 02:56:12PM +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: apologies for the all-lowercase and other features of this email - but therein lies my problem -exclamation mark- from time to time x will just pretend that the caps lock, shift, and alt keys have dropped off the face of the earth... this means i can't copy n paste, i can't type email address, i can't switch consoles, i can't use any keyboard shortcuts rendering most programs useless... as has happened now, as you can tell by the lack of uppercase, smileys, etc in this email... Well, I had this problem (and still, in some less drastic way, have). It ignored all modificators from time to time (depends if the X started OK or it had a bad mood). It started with 1.4 xorg and it seems to be a little better now (shift works every time now for me). Something similar is in the bugzilla both at gentoo and in the upstream. If it is possible for you, you might try downgrading to 1.3, but they say they fixed it upstream, so it might come soon to gentoo as well. -- The difficult we do today; the impossible takes a little longer. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgphRUh2nGsSS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardened skype gcc-4*
Hello , On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 02:58:04PM -0800, Grant wrote: I can't believe it but I get the same error with wengo: $ wengophone /opt/bin/wengophone: line 10: /opt/wengophone/qtwengophone: No such file or directory /opt/bin/wengophone: line 10: /opt/wengophone/qtwengophone: Success Maybe a hardened profile on a laptop is more trouble than it's worth. skype, wengo, firefox-bin all won't work with this same type of error. vmware won't work either and I bet it's the same problem. Just a wild guess -- you do not have /opt on other partition with noexec flag? BTW, I thought wengo was OSS and you could compile it, so it should rest somewhere else (firefox can be compiled for sure, so if you just take the time to do it, it could run). -- This side up = Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpcolgY7MJCA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to reset Kwallet master passwd
Hello On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 12:53:59PM +, Mick wrote: A user has entered the wrong master passwd when he first used Kwallet. Now he cannot use it anymore. What's the recommended way of resetting the master passwd for Kwallet. Losing all stored passwds in Kwallet is not an issue. You could open kwalletmanager and delete the wallet there. Or you can delete .kde/share/apps/kwallet (I hope it is there). -- A nuclear war can ruin your whole day. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgppBojh3DDcr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardened skype gcc-4*
Hello On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:01:07PM -0800, Grant wrote: According to this: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182554 skype is p.masked on hardened profiles waiting for gcc-4*. I really need skype working and I wonder if I should unmask gcc-4*, emerge it, and try to emerge skype. Would I need to follow the Gentoo GCC Upgrade guide to do this if I only want skype compiled with gcc-4*? Would I just be creating a mess doing this? I guess it makes no sense for skype to need the GCC, since you do not (can not) compile skype, it is close-sourced. You could download skype from the pages and just unpack it and hope it will work. BTW: IMO skype should not be allowed near a computer that needs to be hardened -- personally, I do not trust it a bit (and I know a little about the quality how it is written, and it talks by network). -- I left the ssh key under the doormat Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp54lE7RpNPF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardened skype gcc-4*
Hello On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 01:19:29PM -0800, Grant wrote: I guess it makes no sense for skype to need the GCC, since you do not (can not) compile skype, it is close-sourced. You could download skype from the pages and just unpack it and hope it will work. I'm actually able to emerge it, but it won't start with: $ skype /usr/bin/skype: line 10: /opt/skype/skype: No such file or directory /usr/bin/skype: line 10: /opt/skype/skype: Success even though /usr/bin/skype and /opt/skype/skype clearly exist. What you're saying makes sense about gcc-4* not being necessary, but then why the above-referenced bug? Take the statically linked version? And, no, I do not know about that bug, I'm lucky enough not to have Skype installed any more. BTW: IMO skype should not be allowed near a computer that needs to be hardened -- personally, I do not trust it a bit (and I know a little about the quality how it is written, and it talks by network). What would you recommend as an alternative? From what I understand, I could sign up with a voip service and install a client. Would you recommend any in particular, both service and client? If you need it user-friendly, then maybe wengo, or ekiga. AFAIK both work over the SIP protocol, so you can replace the client with whatever else comes to your path and speaks it. And you may set up your own server too, if it comes to it. (Sorry, I have not much experience with it, I just had something to do with skype and was able to crash every version in multiple different ways, so I just do not recommend it at all). -- All flame and insults will go to /dev/null (if they fit) Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpi6fuJkjHGD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} wput with weird characters
Hello On Sat, Sep 01, 2007 at 03:45:54AM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Grant writes: wput -A file.txt ftp://username:abc\!123\@ftp.example.com/file.txt Did you try using ' around the whole argument? Like wput -A ... 'ftp://txt'? That did it. Thanks everyone! Hmm... there really should be no difference whether you put the whole string between single quotes or just escape the ! and . For the application you start it is not even possible to see which notation you used. Sure, but I never know which char I need to escape and which I don't. This way I do not care - less space to escape it in bad way. -- You can't have everything... where would you put it? -- Steven Wright Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpU3LC6H29eF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} wput with weird characters
Hello On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 11:50:43AM -0700, Grant wrote: I need to periodically upload a file to an ftp server, but the password they've issued me has a '!' and a '' character in it. I tried escaping those characters like this: wput -A file.txt ftp://username:abc\!123\@ftp.example.com/file.txt Did you try using ' around the whole argument? Like wput -A ... 'ftp://txt'? -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpUc2aJLxAUd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Which -march and flags for Intel Dual Core (*NOT* Core Duo)?
Hello On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 09:14:06PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: Two identical cores show up in /proc/cpuinfo. To save space on the list, I'm only listing the 2nd one. I'm about to do an install. Any ideas for USE and other settings also welcome. gcc 4.something (I hope it is already on the live CDs) have a cute feature. --march=native, and it will look at the CPU and decide itself what best it can do about it. -- ~, sweet ~ Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp9i2BETu8uS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] trying to make an ebuild
Hello On Wed, Aug 29, 2007 at 07:11:14PM +, Noud Aldenhoven wrote: Could someone tell my how I can give my ebuild the rights to access /usr/bin? The script looks like this one: The direct solution would be RESTRICT=sandbox (or somehow like this, not sure if it is the exact wording). It should disable sandbox, so it will install directly. However, you lose the protection of sandbox, which is pity - it might be better to fix the package. -- This side up = Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpVy08Dfg4uA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend or sleep *ON A DESKTOP PC*?
Hello On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 02:01:15PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: This is getting frustrating. All my searching turns up stuff that involves responding to some event that is triggered by closing the lid on a laptop. That is obviously not going to happen on a desktop PC. Why not type 'hibernate' as a root instead of hooking it to closing lid? Normal rebooting is a pain, because I usually run with 3 or 4 text consoles logged in for different functions, as well as an X session. So what do I have to do to get a *DESKTOP* PC to suspend to disk (preferred) or to ram (second choice)? I use hibernate-scripts configured to use the old hibernate 1 (partially because it is OK with vanilla kernel, partially because the hibernate 2 looks a little bloated to me, partially because I know author of hibernate 1). It works without any problem, I just start the system next time and it loads in its original state. Just give it a try. -- All flame and insults will go to /dev/null (if they fit) Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp2Cdjf397EA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] vim encoding
Hello
On Mon, Aug 13, 2007 at 10:42:17PM +0100, Mick wrote:
Hmm, I just checked a utf-8 file after I edited it and it says:
:set encoding
encoding=latin1
I would guess your UTF-8 file has no accents, or other characters. In
other words, it can be considered pure ASCII, which means Vim can safely
assume it is latin1 encoded text - there is no difference no matter
which reasonable encoding it chooses. (The encoding is not saved in the
file, it is guessed from what is saved there)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Rendering problems when updating xorg-server
Hello On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 01:55:27AM +0200, Pavel Sanda wrote: i'm trying to update from xorg-server 1.1.1-r5 to 1.2.0-r3, but i run into strange rendering issues in my terminals (both eterm,xterm). [ ... ] Which graphics card/driver are you using? I had similar problems with nvidia drivers some time ago (it was different update, thought). Only using the nv driver helped out (with loss of 3D, sadly). Is it your case? -- Support your right to arm bears!! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpBAuOCizcQ8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo update
Hello On Sun, Jun 03, 2007 at 08:59:53PM +0200, Benjamin Graf wrote: I would like to know if there is a danger if I use a program during its updating (when I run emerge -uD world for example). Theoretically, there could be (depends on the software) - some of its files could disappear, but the worst thing I can imagine is a crash of the program. Anyway, I did not notice any such problem and I do update while the computer is in use. It may be caused by the fact that the program is replaced quite fast - the only dangerous time could be when the new one is copied from sandbox to the real system. As for it - I would not dare it on a mission critical server, but anywhere else yes. -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpU7zIuB4Ky5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to swap on a diskless host
Hello On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 01:28:20PM +0200, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2007 16:21:03 +0200 Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First: You need to load the kernel from the swap, in the time it loads, you have no running kernel (well, there is a little part, but that one has no clue about network). No, that's not entirely true. Userspace suspend and resume is in the kernel since 2.6.17. See my other post in this thread for a pointer (I think it was http://suspend.sf.net/). So for this way it really happens all in userspace, with a fully working kernel available. When the image is loaded into RAM, the resume utility makes a syscall to have the kernel automatically copy switch over. See /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power/*suspend* for all the details. OK, I use suspend 1, which seems the least buggy to me, I did not know some of the suspends were in userspace. If so, then yes, it can work. Second: You do not want swap on nfs, since it is terribly slow, buggy, nfs can allocate memory to transfer data and you get a circular problem - to get a memory, you need to get a memory. And, what if your cat steps on the ethernet cable? Resume aborts, checksum error. But that's it. But true, I wouldn't trust NFS too much, either. But then, there are nbd's (network block devices) which would probably work a treat. But userspace resume from a file on NFS should work reliably, too. No, that was not for resume, but for use of swap on NFS. You need fast response from swap and reliability. You might try suspend to ram, thought. It should work on diskless machine as well as on any other. ...cough, cough... yeah, /as/ well as on any other. So this probably means: It won't work until you switch off ACPI and resort to APM... But of course, that will depend. Why? It works fine for me. It just suspends and goes on the other day on my laptop, all working by ACPI - with kernel suspend 1. -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpsVFHEphh7N.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Suspend to swap on a diskless host
Hello AFAIK, I think you do not want to do that. First: You need to load the kernel from the swap, in the time it loads, you have no running kernel (well, there is a little part, but that one has no clue about network). Second: You do not want swap on nfs, since it is terribly slow, buggy, nfs can allocate memory to transfer data and you get a circular problem - to get a memory, you need to get a memory. And, what if your cat steps on the ethernet cable? Third: the suspend does not use swap as a swap, but as a part of a disc. You might try suspend to ram, thought. It should work on diskless machine as well as on any other. -- When all else fails, EAT!!! Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpReAHrDjOnz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1
On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 01:44:49PM +0100, Mick wrote: On Monday 14 May 2007 13:27, Enrico Weigelt wrote: * Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yet another error: While building coreutils, it fails when making tests/sort: Can't locate auto/POSIX/assert.al There's no assert.al nor an assert.pl file on my disk. Obviously the tests fail. Is there any way to skip them (without touching the ebuild file) ? emerge --skipfirst I have not seen a --no-test flag in emerge, but don't know if there is an undocumented option for this, or if it can be set as an ENV variable. There should be no harm in trying, but first someone more knowledgeable in the workings of gentoo better advise. man make.conf, section FEATURES -- Don't worry about people stealing your ideas. If your ideas are any good, you'll have to ram them down people's throats. -- Howard Aiken Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpIybteJLVsU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lots of broken/missing dependencies when starting w/ stage1
Hello On Mon, May 14, 2007 at 02:05:39PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: after my notebook disk died, I started completely afresh with the newest stage1 (running within some bit aged knoppix). What I remember is that stage1 is no longer supported and is for developers only. Theoretically, you can take i386, set your host to i686 and rebuild all, and you will get the same result. -- There is one difference between linux and windows. With windows, you pay for the software, but you get all the T-shirts for free. With linux, you get all the software for free, but you buy the T-shirts. Michal vorner Vaner pgpNu2IeId8aD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] font problem after xorg-server upgrade
Hello On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 07:07:48PM +0200, Pongracz Istvan wrote: My personal opinion is that is not a solution if I had to tweak all the system to get it working. I did not mean tweaking when I said I have no time to experiment. I want to locate the problem as closely as possible to provide valid bugreport so developers can fix it in the next release. -- Security warning: Do not expose this email to direct sunlight. It may lead to undefined behaviour, including possible data or life loses. Michal vorner Vaner pgpkTQItJACHA.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] font problem after xorg-server upgrade
Hello On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 09:15:55AM -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote: Yesterday after a normal emerge -uND world and reboot the fonts in X went haywire. They all jumped in size to, I'm guessing, 100pt or more making KDE completely unusable. After rebooting into the console and some investigation I discovered that if I downgraded to xorg-server 1.2.0-r3 (from 1.3.0.0) and xf86-video-i810 1.7.4 (from 2.0.0) the problem went away. No config was changed during the emerge (except hdparm). Has anyone else had this problem? Do I need to file a bug? I'm snowed under with work this week so I don't have time to experiment. No, I had even worse one - I have 2-headed intel card (internal laptop LCD + external one) and use them as separate screens (:1.0 and :1.1). After the upgrade, it seqfaults, I want to post a bug against it as soon as I have a bit of time. Now I'm back at the old one and have no time to spare too, so this one waits. However, for what I heard of this version, it is somewhat more buggy than I like. I would suggest you to post a bug as soon as you can. Have a nice day -- Hallowed be the zeroes and ones Michal vorner Vaner pgpJOzewQUs0u.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 11:35:25PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 00:01:24 +0200, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: portage can use any directory you like for its workspace, you don't have to remote mount /var to achieve this. You could mount /var/tmp over NFS, but setting PORTAGE_TMPDIR is less kludgy. Well, seems on the same level for me, but that is only personal preference. It's not the same at all. you are advocating mounting the whole of /var on a networked filesystem, which could affect the performance of the system as a whole. Yes, which I was glad - the NFS filesystem was faster than local disk :D But that is not the point, as nothing run at the time (the machine had enough anyway). Have a nice day -- Wait few minutes before opening this email. The temperature difference could lead to vapour condensation. Michal vorner Vaner pgpqCDZci6OcY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
The last time I looked, portage compiles were Gentoo-specific too. If
you want to change where portage uses for its workspace, it is much
safer to use the provided configuration settings than move the whole
of a system-critical directory to an unreliable medium.
Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the big
ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from OOo
that is :-)
Depends what is big for your machine. gcc was huge for that machine,
xorg too, mutt was only big…
Have a nice day
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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello, On Sat, Apr 14, 2007 at 09:53:54PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: Hello Michal 'vorner' Vaner, Now you can mount /var remotely (portage compiles there and needs lots of space) - this way you need only the space for installed programs, not compiling and compile on other machine using distcc. portage can use any directory you like for its workspace, you don't have to remote mount /var to achieve this. You could mount /var/tmp over NFS, but setting PORTAGE_TMPDIR is less kludgy. Well, seems on the same level for me, but that is only personal preference. But the point with this one is - PORTAGE_TMPDIR (besides, isn't it PORTAGE_WORKDIR?) is gentoo specific, but you can do the mounting just anywhere. Anyway, the point is probably clear… With regards -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpoXkeZBR1ry.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?
Hello On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 11:16:58PM +, b.n. wrote: Hi, I have looked a bit for this but I've found nothing. I'd like to create an installable disk ready-to-install on another old, low specs machine that cannot bear a Gentoo install by itself. The logic would be: - create a chroot environment - install a subgentoo in it - emerge the needed sw in the subgentoo, tweak etc. - create an installable medium --??? - install on the old box The installable needs not to be complete... I can install Grub by myself on the box, for example, and just copy the files of the subgentoo on the partitions. However I'd like to see some tutorial/advice/whatever about it. This is not exactly what you have asked for, but I did install this way on an old machine (1.5GB disc, 48MB ram) and it worked. You need to: • Get some space for swap and create partitions • Unpack the stage tarball (preferably stage3) • Install nfs (that time, I had to compile kernel for it, but I hope the today livecd has one nfs-capable). • Install distcc Now you can mount /var remotely (portage compiles there and needs lots of space) - this way you need only the space for installed programs, not compiling and compile on other machine using distcc. It is more or less install the usual way, but with a great help of other computer by network. The advantage is, you can keep updating the system the same way. Have a nice day -- This is a terroristic email. It will explode in 10 minutes, if you do not close it in the meantime. Michal vorner Vaner pgpsxjXgWJYAI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Beryl: white square
Hello On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 11:48:13AM +0200, Sylvain Chouleur wrote: Hi, I tried to install beryl on my unstable gentoo (so I've the version 0.2.1) but when I launch it, I've got the famous white square. I've tried a lot of things which I've read from forums but with no results. I've a ATI Radeon Mobility U1 (Radeon IGP 320 M) and I'm using the free driver: radeon (from the package xf86-video-ati) because fglrx doesn't works with my card. I have Intel card, but I had this problem too. I do not know if it is the same or not, try running dmesg, it complained about old drm module. Newest kernel helped, but I'm not sure if it will for you... Have a nice day -- Anyone seen smoking will be considered on fire and will be put out immediately. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpFrrNPiKIxZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge human readable format.
On Tue, Apr 03, 2007 at 12:40:49PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to have human readable format with emerge ? It could be much more convenient to have this kind of information more readable : Number of files: 122567 Number of files transferred: 675 Total file size: 159275947 bytes Total transferred file size: 3030220 bytes Literal data: 3030220 bytes Matched data: 0 bytes File list size: 2969859 File list generation time: 2.042 seconds File list transfer time: 0.000 seconds Total bytes sent: 18837 Total bytes received: 4035665 sent 18837 bytes received 4035665 bytes 901000.44 bytes/sec total size is 159275947 speedup is 39.28 but I see no human readable formatting option. Any trick ? This is from rsync, so look there. You can (I hope) change the command to sync portage, so you can add some flags. However, what is unreadable about that? -- This email was generated by a biological random generator. If you want more random text, just respond to this email. Michal vorner Vaner pgpiBNWPbHztT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mutt and CC%CC$CC6 characters
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 09:10:58PM +0300, Juho Rosqvist wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 13:49:46 +0200, Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: Hello On Sat, Mar 31, 2007 at 06:31:34AM +0100, Graham Murray wrote: Juho Rosqvist [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, the subject _should_ read: Mutt and ÅåÄäÖö characters [snip] I'm really at a loss as to what causes this problem, or how to fix it. Help would be appreciated. The problem is that if mail headers (especially to, from and subject) contain non US-Ascii characters (as your email does), then the mail program is supposed to use the mechanism described in RFC2047. Your emailer is not doing this, but is sending the 'raw' Scandinavian characters. As to how to fix it, I am sorry but I cannot be of any help. I do not think this would be the problem, since MUTT does encode them (at last my mutt with Czech characters and utf-8 charset). I would try some other TUI application like mc or links. Vim handles the input directly AFAIK, but these use readline library for it. I agree that my problem is probably input related. By your reply I presume that mutt uses readline for input; is this correct? I'm not sure, it is just a guess. It is only the direction I would try first if I had this problem, nothing definite... -- Wait few minutes before opening this email. The temperature difference could lead to vapour condensation. Michal vorner Vaner pgpQjdkfooWaE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Crypto error
Hello, On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:38:08PM +, Mick wrote: I have ticked encrypt to self, so I was expecting that the senders passphrase would be asked and the message would become readable in the Sent Folder. KMail is no longer (it is some time already) able to ask for the passphrase itself, you need gpg-agent properly configured and running. Other applications using pgp are moving in this direction too (there are some safety issues with every application asking for the passphrase by itself). You probably can find more here http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gnupg-user.xml. Have a nice day -- You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can make a fool of yourself anytime. Michal vorner Vaner pgpWXUnBCq7yS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] quick kmail question
Hello,
On Tue, Mar 06, 2007 at 07:47:40AM +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
On Monday 05 March 2007 21:43:03 Matthew R. Lee wrote:
When I click on a URL in an email it opens a new Konqueror window. However
I have it set in my Konqueror configuration to Open as tab in existing
Konqueror when URL is called externally I've looked through the KMail
configuration settings but I can't find anywhere to change this. Is there
a way?
This has been annoying me too. I'm quite interested if anybody knows a better
way to fix it but I've worked around it by setting /usr/local/bin/konqueror
as my Web Browser in kcontrol - KDE Components - Component Chooser. If you
do the same do remember to make /usr/local/bin/konqueror executable.
$ cat /usr/local/bin/konqueror
#!/bin/bash
SESS=$(/usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop | sed '/^konqueror/q;d')
if [[ -z ${SESS} ]]; then
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/konqueror $*
else
/usr/kde/3.5/bin/dcop ${SESS} konqueror-mainwindow\#1 newTab $*
fi
I do not use KMail, but you probably could replace this script with
kfmclient. I use that one from many applications (usually non-KDE ones).
With regards
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 04:49:48PM -0800, Bob Young wrote: Now with regards to eth1, it is my intent to configure eth1 as with the machines only public IP address (69.12.134.79), and configure BIND to listen on eth1 as a secondary domain name server, the primary domain name server would have an A Record for 69.12.134.79 and it would be named ns.somedomainname.com. IOW it would have a different base name (ns) than eth0 (gentoo). My question is whether or not this is valid/legal/okay, i.e. is it likely to cause any problems? I do not see why this would be forbidden, however I think it would be a good idea to let gentoo.somedomainname.com resolv to the same IP as ns.somedomainname.com. Or better, ns be a pointer to gentoo (if that is possible, I'm not sure here). It is for clarity and - well, this one is crazy, but it IMO adds to the computer's personality and the computer deserves a proper name. With regards. -- Hallowed be the zeroes and ones Michal vorner Vaner pgp17T5LMitJF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On Sun, Mar 04, 2007 at 11:52:55AM -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:16:47 +0100 Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The [ X ] is a machine, is a network and those C? are names of the machine on the net. Now, ping C1 on the middle machine. Should it ping itself on the right interface or look for the left computer? You should at last have something like: [ Name1 ] C1 C2 [ Name2 ] C1 C2 [ Name3 ] /etc/resolv.conf has a search line in which you can set up domains to automatically append to hostnames that aren't fully qualified. If the subnets had different subdomain names, the order/presence/absence in resolv.conf would determin which C? was reached from Name2 Sure you can do all this - but I still think you just do better if you name the computer in some reasonable way - give it its own name that is the same everywhere (even if it has different domains behind it) and add nicknames for services. After all, it IS the same computer. If you do not give the computer a more global name, you need to ask yourself from which network you access it and decide. I did not say you can not do it other way, just that it probably is a good idea to act in a way most people take as sane. With regards -- No, you will not fix me Computer Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpfIqNUtpfKV.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] package.features
Hello, I feel a need to override the default FEATURES configuration for one package (some kernel modules do not build with userpriv). However, I can not find anything like that in any gentoo manual. It would probably be something like package.features file, but that one does not work (quite expectable). Do I miss something, or I could as well start hacking portage? Thank you -- This email has not been checked by an antivirus system. No virus found. Michal vorner Vaner pgp0ETHjy3iGD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] package.features
Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:13:42PM +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2007 17:46:30 Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: I feel a need to override the default FEATURES configuration for one package (some kernel modules do not build with userpriv). However, I can not find anything like that in any gentoo manual. It would probably be something like package.features file, but that one does not work (quite expectable). Do I miss something, or I could as well start hacking portage? The only way to disable userpriv on a per package basis is by adding RESTRICT=userpriv to the ebuild. If a package cannot work with userpriv that should be done by it's maintainer. So if needed file a bug against the packages in question... Any patch to change this will probably be rejected. OK, in this case maybe (the problematic was - sometimes - kqemu, and I could not find out when it compiled and when not). But there may be situations where this possibility could be used in some other ways. You may want nostrip for few packages only (need of debug symbols, and you do not want to have them for the whole system), or the make check fails for one package you critically need just now and have no other choice than to use it anyway. In my opinion, it should be possible to configure all the variables according to the package name. But in other words, if I want such functionality, I have to hack it in somehow. Or I will have a look at paladius, or how is that thing called (will test it in virtual machine first…) With regards -- Hello, this is an extension to the famous signature virus, called spymail. Could you please copy me into your signature and send back what you were doing last night between 10pm and 3am? Michal vorner Vaner pgpXlDElfPxHh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] package.features
Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 09:07:23PM +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: On Saturday 03 March 2007 20:39:01 Michal 'vorner' Vaner wrote: But there may be situations where this possibility could be used in some other ways. You may want nostrip for few packages only (need of debug symbols, and you do not want to have them for the whole system), or the make check fails for one package you critically need just now and have no other choice than to use it anyway. In my opinion, it should be possible to configure all the variables according to the package name. The cases you've mentioned here (nostrip, splitdebug, test) are handled on the bash side of portage which means disabling them in /etc/portage/bashrc on a per package basis (or in /etc/portage/env/*) is possible. Ups, seems like I overlooked this nice file at all. It seems to be a really powerful tool :-). Sorry for not reading properly enough. FEATURES=userpriv, however, is handled on the python side and hence that won't work. In order to persuade someone to change this you'll probably need a better use case than -userpriv which ultimately should be either fixed or restricted in the ebuild. You are probably right. And no one will want to add some odd file that could configure any arbitrary variable according to a package just because it would look cool and would be consistent :D. (Or maybe it can be partly created by the bashrc thingie) Anyway, thank you very much. At last, I know a bit more now, and won't waste my time hacking something portage probably already has. -- Work with computer has 2 phases. First, computer waits for the user to tell it what to do, then the user waits for the computer to do it. Therefore, computer work consists mostly of waiting. Michal vorner Vaner pgpt4CBxqspkS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:17:52AM -0800, Bob Young wrote: Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? AFAIK, you can have multiple names for one IP and multiple IPs for one name (there are more ways to do that). So, I see no reason why anyone would ever forgive you to have different name for each of IP addresses your computer has. The other question is if you really want to do that, because there might be applications not expecting your computer is schizophrenic in such way and go nutty. With regards -- When eating an elephant take one bite at a time. -- Gen. C. Abrams Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpy27DlVLRZa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A DNS question.
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 03:21:52PM -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: On Sat, 3 Mar 2007 22:04:59 +0100 Michal 'vorner' Vaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:17:52AM -0800, Bob Young wrote: Obviously on a given system each NIC is usually connected to a different domain, my question is, whether or not it is /legal/possible/okay to use different *hostnames* on different NICs? AFAIK, you can have multiple names for one IP and multiple IPs for one name (there are more ways to do that). So, I see no reason why anyone would ever forgive you to have different name for each of IP addresses your computer has. The other question is if you really want to do that, because there might be applications not expecting your computer is schizophrenic in such way and go nutty. With regards on the contrary, there are good reasons to have more than one name for a single computer. For example, say I have a server 'zeus.mydomain' that also does mail. If I name the mailserver 'mail.mydomain' then I can CNAME that to zeus.mydomain via DNS, or I can just set mail.mydomain to the ip address of the second interface. Result - I can redirect my mail to mail.mydomain and it can go to whatever computer I desire, whether or not it has different names. 'zeus' is still listening under that name for other requests. If i use 'zeus' for heavy filesharing, I can still get good access over a non-saturated ethernet device on 'mail'. Well, this is something else - the computer knows itself as zeus and has nicknames. However, if I got what the question was about - to be name1 for one card and name2 for the second - and do not appear as name2 on the first at all. IMO machine should have the same base name to any domain it shows in - the one that it shows in bash command prompt. Then you can have additional names for the services and they can differ. But the name showed on the bash should probable be reachable (if possible) from any network it appears on. The situation shown here is probably odd (the names here are the only ones there, no additional ones or base ones). [ X ] C1 C2 [ X ] C1 C2 [ X ]. The [ X ] is a machine, is a network and those C? are names of the machine on the net. Now, ping C1 on the middle machine. Should it ping itself on the right interface or look for the left computer? You should at last have something like: [ Name1 ] C1 C2 [ Name2 ] C1 C2 [ Name3 ] (even if Name2 could not be resolved by the DNS on the right network for example). And you can nickname Name2 as mail or ntp if it suits you. I hope I made myself clear and I apologize for the previous misunderstanding. Have a nice day -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp4iMiFJo3It.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for advice on shared file system.
Hello, On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 04:54:31PM +, Peter Lewis wrote: I've been looking around for a while now for some sort of shared file system which might meet my needs a little better than that which I am currently using. Maybe coda? Thought I only heard of it, not used. Have a nice day -- Work with computer has 2 phases. First, computer waits for the user to tell it what to do, then the user waits for the computer to do it. Therefore, computer work consists mostly of waiting. Michal vorner Vaner pgp930lbPrcMq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Install Advice
Hello, On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:05:26AM -0600, Dale wrote: I have to disagree with this. I used to use Mandrake and Gentoo is a *LOT* faster than Mandrake. I turned off a lot of unused services and Mandrake was still pretty slow. This is especially true if you customize all the flags you can. I suspect he will see a speed difference. Plus he will know what is being installed and why. Gentoo IMHO beats Mandrake and others by a long shot. Well, yes, it may be faster a bit, like 1%, maybe 10%… But if one distro would be unbearable slow, gentoo would be too. It won't just be faster 10 times, and yes, that 10% are nice, but not usually worth switching your distro. Have a nice day -- Q: Why was Stonehenge abandoned? A: It wasn't IBM compatible. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpfTUS3SiU7U.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No more ASCII progress bar for Suspend2 hibernate
Hello,
On Tue, Feb 20, 2007 at 02:44:21PM -0500, Henk Boom wrote:
Hi, I have just done an emerge -uDNav world, and when I hibernate
(suspend2) with the 'hibernate' script, it no longer displays the
progress bar showing how long it will take to finish. I am using
suspend2-sources-2.6.17-r6, and I have not re-compiled my kernel since
the emerge. Its sources are still in /usr/src/.
What handles drawing the progress bar, and what can I do to get it to
work again? Please tell me if I need to post additional information.
The thing is suspend2-userui. However, I personally recommend using
suspend version 1. It does not have all the drawings of progress and
contains less features, but less bugs as well (with the 2. version, I
had the feeling my computer is hunted). Besides, the second version is
huge in the amount of code in kernel.
And I do not know, what stopped working. Did you do any updates to your
hibernate script configs?
Have a nice day
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Re: [gentoo-user] Routing: how to enable..
Hello,
On Sat, Feb 17, 2007 at 11:07:34PM +0100, Roman Naumann wrote:
Here the whole configuration: (imagine it as a complicated line of different
connections through the entire house...)
[SNIP]
Hm, I think in theory you should have the PC in the middle with 2 IP
addresses, on each interface different. On each segment (each side of
the middle one) should be IPs from different range and there should be
allowed routing (that I do not know how). It would look like this:
--( PC1 IP-A/Range1 ) -- ( IP-B/Range1 PC2 IP-C/Range2 ) -- (
IP-D/Range2 PC3 )
PC2 can comm with all (since it is on both nets). PC3 shloud use IP-C as
its gateway, which will allow it to access PC1. PC1 should have static
route for whole Range2 to IP-B, so it can send to PC3. Now, how is that
set in Windows, who knows..
After this all is set, PC1 and PC3 should be able to talk to each other.
However, you will not see the pings unless both directions work.
So, you need to:
• PC3: /etc/conf.d/net:routes_eth0 = { default via IP-C }
• PC2: enable routing (I guess /etc/conf.d/net too)
• PC1: add a static route Range2 - IP-B.
I just hope I did not mess that up.
Or you can set up a bridge on PC2 to make both segments one net only:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_setup_a_gentoo_bridge
Have a nice day
--
BOFH Excuse #452:
Somebody ran the operating system through a spelling checker.
Michal 'vorner' Vaner
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice-2: Permission problem with file dialog
Hello, On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 01:19:04PM +0100, Arend von der Lieth wrote: The peculiar thing is that everything works fine when I am running the program as root (which of course is not what I would like to do). My system is mainly from the stable branch, but the described behaviour is the same no matter if I use Ooo-2.0.4 or OOo-2.1 (I just tested if that would solve the problem). This is just a shot, but it helped me few problems. Could you try setting up a new user account and try it there? If it works there, it is because of some problem with your personal settings (not that it would excuse it to behave this way, but may help find some way out of the problem before it's fixed) With regards -- Hello, this is an extension to the famous signature virus, called spymail. Could you please copy me into your signature and send back what you were doing last night between 10pm and 3am? Michal vorner Vaner pgpyACtfdhnsN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Mails getting lost?
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:39:56PM -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 12:26 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: Are my mails to the list getting to anyone else? I'm not seeing them myself, and I wanted to make sure they weren't disappearing into the ether. I checked that I could email myself directly, so I don't think it's a problem on this side, but I sent a helpful reply about kde-meta and kate earlier today and I still haven't seen it yet. Same with a comment I sent to gentoo-desktop around the same time. Before anyone asks, no, I am not using gmail. I sent in a post yesterday afternoon. My mail logs say it was sent, but I haven't seen it. I'm not using gmail either. I guess this list just does not send the message to its originator, I do not see mine either. -- When eating an elephant take one bite at a time. -- Gen. C. Abrams Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpwO9nYlHS4b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux symlink?
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 02:51:44PM +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 4 February 2007 13:45, Jorge Almeida wrote: I was under the impression that it is necessary to install Nvidia drivers. Is this correct? If the link is not in place, nvidia-drivers will not build. Quite any ebuild that installs modules needs the symlink, as far as I know. -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal vorner Vaner pgpdw1d2MSUE3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] linux symlink?
On Sun, Feb 04, 2007 at 01:43:22PM -0600, Dan Farrell wrote: On Sun, 4 Feb 2007 12:39:07 -0500 Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 04 February 2007 08:51:44 am Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 4 February 2007 13:45, Jorge Almeida wrote: I was under the impression that it is necessary to install Nvidia drivers. Is this correct? If the link is not in place, nvidia-drivers will not build. And what should be done with the System.map file? Copy it to /boot under which name? (I mean, when booting with a particular kernel, how does the kernel know the path to the correct System.map?) There used to be a good system.map explanation here: http://dirac.org/linux/system.map/ however, it seems to have some problem at the moment. The google cached copy works (just do a search for linux system.map, it's the first hit). Sorry, cannot comment on whether the symlink should or should not be created, and it's been a lot since I built my last LFS. I have almost always used it, and never had any problem. IIRC the handbook's advice is to create the link. But, as always, YMMV. The server ar dirac.org need a kick, I emailed the admin there. As for the symlink with LFS... LFS is a totally different animal than most distributions. For us, the link is required in order to emerge anything that touches the kernel sources. I stopped copying System.map very often and it doesn't seem very useful.. I think copying it to /boot is mostly for recovery purposes, like .config being copied into /boot. that way you can rebuild the kernel if you need to. AFAIK about System.map is it is not for recovery, but for debugging. If kernel crashes, it tries get one to tell where it crashed, give you backtrace and like that. It's easier to find the bug with it, so unless you do not have a kernel that will ever crash, or you do not want to send bug reports, you do not need one. -- BOFH Excuse #452: Somebody ran the operating system through a spelling checker. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgplezMpkE8t5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Migrating gentoo to a new machine
Hello, On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 04:08:41PM +0800, Seo Boon, NG wrote: Throught the years I've build-up a good collection of gentoo packages that I'm currently running on my notebook. Now that I need to move to a new notebook, I build another gentoo system where everything were smooth and I did a emerge world/systems to get everything update. Now the question is - how do get gentoo to emerge the exact same number of package like my old notebook? I've attempted to move /var/lib/portage/world(which contain all the packages that I need) to the new notebook and start a emerge world. I got an error and ask me to emaint -c that I follow diligently which didn't quite help. I follow up with a emaint -f and somehow it just get rid of all the packages that I need :( I would try (since the file looks quite friendly) emerge -va `cat /var/lib/portage/world` -- chown -R us $BASE Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgp9YEsmXT8GQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Network works OK internally but can't access Internet - very frustrated
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 11:40:20PM +1000, Richard Watson wrote: Do you have your dns configuration correct? please check you /etc/resolv.conf file. Does your DHCP server send nameserver to the client? Thanks for your reply. When the interface is up /etc/resolv.conf has a name change to /etc/resolve.conf-eth2.sv and contains the following: It is of no use under other name. You need it to be exactly /etc/resolv.conf. -- The cost of living is going up, and the chance of living is going down. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpO8qUrdCdzO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about /etc/conf.d/net entry
Hello, On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 12:07:59PM -0500, Shawn Singh wrote: I've got my /etc/conf.d/net setup as follows: # eth1 (LAN) config config_eth1=( 192.168.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ) routes_eth1=( 192.168.1.0 via 192.168.1.1 ) # the idea here is that I wish Er, shouldn't this work by default? It is the netmask thing, right? Because what I think you are trying to do is: Whatever goes to 192.168.1.*, send it to the machine at 192.168.1.1, it will know. But the problem IMO is, this machine is local, so it again runs the packet trough the table and sends it to itself… Did you try removing the routing rule? I guess it should work by itself and you needed it only if there was a machine somewhere, like 10.0.0.1 that would be reachable trough 192.168.1.15… But I'm not sure, I hope I do not talk complete jebrish. -- The cost of living is going up, and the chance of living is going down. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpEdPkpKdp0n.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] why forbids making hard link for directory?
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 02:18:26PM +0800, Shaochun Wang wrote: I know it forbids making hardlink for directory in current filesystem, but i don't know why? Can you tell me why? You could make a cycle (like directory placed inside itself) that would be undetectable and all the nice utils like find, grep -r, cp and so would work forever traversing them. -- There's the light at the end of the the Windows. -- Havlik Denis Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpKfVouOn7v7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters
Hello, On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 05:07:26PM +0100, Jan Stępień wrote: I entered Amarok's setting window and in the Appearance tab I found an option allowing me to change the default font. Moreover the font chooser dialog allows me to check whether the font contains diacritical characters. I've chosen a suitable font, which displayed all those chars correctly and clicked Apply. Most surprisingly, part of the fonts have changed and begun to display everything correctly (e.g. the context window and the playlist), but the main menu on the top still consists of those rectangles and I am not able to change its font. Well, I have to admit that I'm a little bit dizzy. Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol? -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal vorner Vaner pgpuPBBgWFZ7G.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome, KDE applications and diacritical characters
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 08:27:02PM +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: Did you try choosing the same font in kcontrol? He is using GNOME! Ups, sorry. Near hit. Then gnome-control-center? (mistaken by amarok, which is KDE) -- Security warning: Do not expose this email to direct sunlight. It may lead to undefined behaviour, including possible data or life loses. Michal vorner Vaner pgpXzhVHVtOii.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard Drive Crash - Please Help
Hello, On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 10:51:48AM -0800, Grant wrote: and the vi command always seg faults. Does that mean the /dev/hda3 image is done-for and I should just start the laptop over from scratch and import my /etc/ and /home/ directories when it's re-installed? I would try putting it all back and re-emerge everything (emerge -vaD --emptytree world). It would fix if anything bad happened to the compiled things and you could start using the things which survived sooner. Hope it works well for you -- Anyone seen smoking will be considered on fire and will be put out immediately. Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpKQ6oWmT4fO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I emerge a program with debugging options?
Hello On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 10:13:46AM +0100, qfpvajdy wrote: Does somebody knows how I could do this by an easy way? I had already the idea to rename the program /usr/bin/strip in /usr/bin/strip.old, but this is a little ugly! :-) Have a look at man make.conf, there are many nice options, one of them, if I remember correctly, was nostrip. -- This email was generated by a biological random generator. If you want more random text, just respond to this email. Michal vorner Vaner pgpyWfxmj0jQn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Which Laptop is recommended for Gentoo GNU/Linux?
Hello, On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 01:46:32PM +0100, qfpvajdy wrote: Hello, first thanks all for your great support on Gentoo Linux. I'm interessted to buy a laptop on which I would like to install Gentoo GNU/Linux by using 100% all hardware functions of the laptop for which I have bought. I have Dell Latitude D510, and I made work anything I had opportunity to test. I did not test infrared and docking. I have the version with intel WiFi card. AFAIK this exact model is not sold any more, but something similar enough should be. -- Michal vorner Vaner == This email has been checked by an automatic damage possibility check system. It can contain harmful instructions if read backwards. Internal checker ID: lacol.cr/cte/ tlah ohce pgpMDEN9bS4EP.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] install CD of Hewlett-Packard server
On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 03:55:50PM +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Oh,God! I can't start my machine with the livecd anymore even I have burned another livecd with livecd-i686-installer-2006.1.iso. The error is still all the same:coldpluging pci devices,which appears at 68%'s progress. Try disabling autodetection (one of parameters, see help before it boots). Now my machine has a Windows2003,so is there any way that I can install gentoo in Windows? Yes, you can get an amulator and run virtual machine, even under Windows. However, I guess you do not really want to compile it all in emulated machine… -- Michal vorner Vaner == This email has been checked by an automatic damage possibility check system. It can contain harmful instructions if read backwards. Internal checker ID: lacol.cr/cte/ tlah ohce pgpHeSvIBvhef.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] USB freezes the machine...
On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 09:01:22AM -0700, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/1/07, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it useful, this is my lsmod: ohci_hcd 21636 0 uhci_hcd 24648 0 ehci_hcd 33160 0 I seem to recall that loading multiple USB controller drivers can cause problems on some systems. You might try unloading all of these with rmmod, then loading just one, and see if your drive will work. I believe for most systems the ehci_hcd driver would be the preferred one. AFAIK ohci is for USB 1.1, uhci for 2.0 and ehci is firewire, I have them loaded all too. But I may be wrong -- There's the light at the end of the the Windows. -- Havlik Denis Michal 'vorner' Vaner pgpUkdOrKg8hV.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: anti-portage wreckage?
On Sun, Dec 31, 2006 at 06:20:23PM +, Mick wrote: The second is nearly photo-realistic games. Of course. That is I think one area where a thin client will not be able to compete with a modern desktop PC. I don't play games and haven't seen what sort of latency a game played through FreeNX can achieve. On the other hand future gaming may be left to games consoles? Then I hope it will be possible to have my _private_ correspondence on a game console. I dread the times when I will have my pgp key stored somewhere on the internet. Another aspect is, I want to be the administrator of my computer - because I have the power to do whatever I like ;-) -- This message has optimized support for formating. Please choose green font and black background so it looks like it should. Michal vorner Vaner pgp06p2OClIH2.pgp Description: PGP signature
