[gentoo-user] app-text/poppler-0.24.3 fails to build
Hello, poppler fails to build for me and i don't know why. Does someone got an idea about this? [ 97%] Building CXX object qt4/src/CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/ArthurOutputDev.cc.o cd /var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/qt4/src /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H=1 -Dpoppler_qt4_EXPORTS -DNDEBUG -Wall -Wcast-align -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -ansi -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Woverloaded-virtual -O2 -pipe -fPIC -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3 -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/fofi -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/goo -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/poppler -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/poppler -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/qt4/src -I/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/qt4/src -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/qt4-o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/ArthurOutputDev.cc.o -c /var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3/qt4/src/ArthurOutputDev.cc Traceback (most recent call last): Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/g-ir-scanner, line 46, in module File /usr/bin/g-ir-scanner, line 46, in module sys.exit(scanner_main(sys.argv)) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 404, in scanner_main sys.exit(scanner_main(sys.argv)) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 404, in scanner_main transformer = create_transformer(namespace, options) transformer = create_transformer(namespace, options) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 297, in create_transformer File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/scannermain.py, line 297, in create_transformer transformer.register_include(include_obj) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 131, in register_include transformer.register_include(include_obj) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 131, in register_include self._parse_include(filename) self._parse_include(filename) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 203, in _parse_include File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/transformer.py, line 203, in _parse_include parser.parse(filename) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/girparser.py, line 60, in parse parser.parse(filename) File /usr/lib64/gobject-introspection/giscanner/girparser.py, line 60, in parse tree = parse(filename) File string, line 62, in parse tree = parse(filename) File string, line 62, in parse File string, line 38, in parse File string, line 38, in parse cElementTree.ParseError: syntax error: line 1, column 0 cElementTree.ParseError: syntax error: line 1, column 0 make[2]: *** [glib/Poppler-0.18.gir] Fehler 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build' make[1]: *** [glib/CMakeFiles/gir-typelibs.dir/all] Fehler 2 make[1]: *** Warte auf noch nicht beendete Prozesse... make[2]: *** [glib/Poppler-0.18.gir] Fehler 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build' make[1]: *** [glib/CMakeFiles/gir-girs.dir/all] Fehler 2 Linking CXX shared library libpoppler-qt4.so cd /var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-0.24.3/work/poppler-0.24.3_build/qt4/src /usr/bin/cmake -E cmake_link_script CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/link.txt --verbose=1 /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -fPIC -Wall -Wcast-align -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -ansi -Wnon-virtual-dtor -Woverloaded-virtual -O2 -pipe -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed -Wl,--as-needed -shared -Wl,-soname,libpoppler-qt4.so.4 -o libpoppler-qt4.so.4.3.0 CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-annotation.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-document.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-embeddedfile.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-fontinfo.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-form.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-link.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-link-extractor.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-movie.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-optcontent.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-page.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-base-converter.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-pdf-converter.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-private.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-ps-converter.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-qiodeviceoutstream.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-sound.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-textbox.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-page-transition.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/poppler-media.cc.o CMakeFiles/poppler-qt4.dir/ArthurOutputDev.cc.o ../../libpoppler.so.43.0.0
Re: [gentoo-user] Mail System with virtuell User
Am 12.09.2013 02:12, schrieb Silvio Siefke: Hello, has someone run a Mailserver (Postfix) with virtuell User which not use Mysql/Postgresql Database Backen? I has read the Dovecot / Postfix Websites which has Howtos for No Database but so really want not run. The most Howto i found are for Mysql and on Debian. Gentoo is not use as Web/Mailserver? I found only the wiki from Gentoo but is only use with Database. Has someone a config and can shared or know someone a Tutorial which can take as first step to install? Thank you Greetings Silvio Hello, i would say file based ist pretty much the default. All i specified in postfix is in main.cf home_mailbox = Maildir/. And in dovecot in 10-mail.conf mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir Nothing else is storage related. Norman
[gentoo-user] Disable Screen Blanking
Hi, i am trying to disable Screen Blanking but have been unsuccessful so far. I used various methods: * installed gnome-power-manager and disabled screen power saving * setterm -blank 0 * echoing setterm -blank 0 to the dev/ttyXs * xset s off * Kernel parameter in Grub consoleblank=0 A kernelsetting for this seem to have existed in older kernels, but seems to have vanished in recent ones. All methods have failed. Does anyone know of a way to just keep the screen on? Thanks, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Disable Screen Blanking
Am 08.07.2013 14:43, schrieb Randolph Maaßen: 2013/7/8 Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org mailto:nor...@smash-net.org Hi, i am trying to disable Screen Blanking but have been unsuccessful so far. I used various methods: * installed gnome-power-manager and disabled screen power saving * setterm -blank 0 * echoing setterm -blank 0 to the dev/ttyXs * xset s off * Kernel parameter in Grub consoleblank=0 A kernelsetting for this seem to have existed in older kernels, but seems to have vanished in recent ones. All methods have failed. Does anyone know of a way to just keep the screen on? Thanks, Norman I have in my openbox autostart.sh xset -dpms s off. this disables the sceensaver (as you tried), but also turns Energy Star (DPMS) features off. So no power management turns off the screen. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Randolph Maaßen Thank you! It works. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Fiber SAN
Am 16.06.2013 02:25, schrieb Nick Khamis: Hello Norman, Sorry for the delayed response What do you mean by replication? Oh I was referring to the replication of the entire NFS server with virtual drive images etc.. to other machines for fail over, maybe load balancing. Kind Regards, Nick. Hi, the NFS Server is a Netapp dualhead high availability storage system, which takes care of all this. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Fiber SAN
Am 13.06.2013 14:31, schrieb Nick Khamis: Hello Norman, Thank you so much for your response, and that is an interesting setup. we open up pools of up to 20 hosts which all mount the same NFS share which holds sparse file images as virtual hdds of the VM. How are these sprase file images initially built for each VM's virtual hdd? And can this process be automated. There are many ways, in our case virt-install creates them automaticaly. But you could just dd a file from /dev/zero or random. It is a raw sparse file. There is no internal logic behind it. Of cause this process can be fully automated. We automated the complete installation process, which takes one command now to install and deploy a completely from scratch installed VM in about 8 to 11 Minutes. So life migration is possible, other than holding the VMs on local storage. I can understand that. Our never clusters are equipped with hosts using 10 gigabit ethernet. Two 10GE ports are bonded to provide redundancy and balancing. Every host features 2 bonds, one for storage vlans and one for the production vlans. Performance is not the issue. Good network engineering. I guess also with this setup replication would be handled by rsync? If so, the potential of this setup really starts to shine. What do you mean by replication? WOW, from NAS to SAN? Kind Regards, Nick.
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Fiber SAN
Am 12.06.2013 08:33, schrieb Dan Johansson: On 12.06.2013 06:57, Norman Rieß wrote: Am 11.06.2013 16:19, schrieb Nick Khamis: Hello Everyone, Was wondering what people are running these days, and how do they compare to the 10,000 dollar SAN boxes. We are looking to build a fiber san using IET and glusterFS, and was wondering what kind of luck people where having using this approach, or any for that matter. the question is, what are you doing with it and why do you think you need a fibre channel SAN. Our goal indeed is to get rid of the SAN infrastructure as it is delicately to all kinds of failure with nearly zero fault tolerance. An example, you have an hicup or a power failure in your network. SAN is dead from nowon and must be reinitialized on the server. Simple NFS comes back up without any fuzz. Another, you boot your storage systems due to an os update or something like that. Your SAN will be dead. NFS will just go on as if nothing happened. We use netapp storage systems which are NAS and SAN capable. Another point is, that if you have a SAN lun, there is either no way to increase or decrease size on the fly, on cifs or nfs you can resize your share on the go. So if you do not have a _really_ good reason to use a fribre channel SAN, don't! Hello, I tend to disagree. A correctly designed SAN (using dual Fabric among other things) is a lot more stable and has a lot better performance than any NAS (NFS, CIFS, iSCSI) solution. One other thing that also needs to be correctly configured to have a stable SAN infrastructure is the servers on it (Multipathing, partition alignment, queue depth, ...) according to the storage vendors recommendation. LUN expansion/shrink is storage vendor specific, some can not (netapp apparently) but others can. Just my 2 cents. Regards, Hello, you are right i did not elaborate on our san setup, but dual fabric, correctly configured hba, proper timeout settings, multipathing, alignment and proper block sizes, all was cared for. And yes, it is stable as long, as no glitch in power, network etc. or maintenance is due. Here NFS is far more fault tolerant. Our servers are equipped with 10GE ports, which are bonded. Performance is not the issue. Further more, is the configuration far easier and more robust. According to roadmaps ethernet will outperform SAN infrastructure by factors soon. Oh, you can resize the lun, but on the server side you have a blockdevice exposed and need to unmount, resize if possible and mount again. On nfs it is a df for the old size, resizing and a df with the new size with no service downtime. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Fiber SAN
Am 12.06.2013 16:20, schrieb Nick Khamis: Hello Nick, the question is, what are you doing with it and why do you think you need a fibre channel SAN. Our goal indeed is to get rid of the SAN infrastructure as it is delicately to all kinds of failure with nearly zero fault tolerance. An example, you have an hicup or a power failure in your network. SAN is dead from nowon and must be reinitialized on the server. Simple NFS comes back up without any fuzz. Another, you boot your storage systems due to an os update or something like that. Your SAN will be dead. NFS will just go on as if nothing happened. We use netapp storage systems which are NAS and SAN capable. Another point is, that if you have a SAN lun, there is either no way to increase or decrease size on the fly, on cifs or nfs you can resize your share on the go. So if you do not have a _really_ good reason to use a fribre channel SAN, don't! Regards, Norman Hello Norman, Thank you so much for your response. That is a very interesting! We currently use an NFS to house home directories etc.., and I love how it just bloody works!!! We do however need block level sharing. The idea is the typical host with multiple VM with virtual HDDs residing on a SAN. We figured fibre would give us better performance (for the mean time!!!). It was my understanding that SAN whether implemented using iSCSI or Fibre was essentially susceptible to the same type of faults that lead to whatever failures? The only difference being of course, on is on fibre, and the other using ethernet. Given the price of fibre right now, it's quite cheap and we though double the throughput, why not? We could have the VMs taking storage from DAS, and mount to an external NFS for home/ etc... Not sure how it would perform in terms of IO rates, and also, the idea of block level allocation just seems so much cleaner no? PS I am new to SAN, please excuse me. Kind Regards, Nick Hello, our setup is that we open up pools of up to 20 hosts which all mount the same NFS share which holds sparse file images as virtual hdds of the VMs. So life migration is possible, other than holding the VMs on local storage. Our never clusters are equipped with hosts using 10 gigabit ethernet. Two 10GE ports are bonded to provide redundancy and balancing. Every host features 2 bonds, one for storage vlans and one for the production vlans. Performance is not the issue. Our older clusters do this with 1 gigabit ethernet and three bonds. We have some high performance services and throughput never was a problem. So i recomment NFS. But it really depends on your prefferation. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Linux Fiber SAN
Am 11.06.2013 16:19, schrieb Nick Khamis: Hello Everyone, Was wondering what people are running these days, and how do they compare to the 10,000 dollar SAN boxes. We are looking to build a fiber san using IET and glusterFS, and was wondering what kind of luck people where having using this approach, or any for that matter. Kind Regards, Nick. Hello Nick, the question is, what are you doing with it and why do you think you need a fibre channel SAN. Our goal indeed is to get rid of the SAN infrastructure as it is delicately to all kinds of failure with nearly zero fault tolerance. An example, you have an hicup or a power failure in your network. SAN is dead from nowon and must be reinitialized on the server. Simple NFS comes back up without any fuzz. Another, you boot your storage systems due to an os update or something like that. Your SAN will be dead. NFS will just go on as if nothing happened. We use netapp storage systems which are NAS and SAN capable. Another point is, that if you have a SAN lun, there is either no way to increase or decrease size on the fly, on cifs or nfs you can resize your share on the go. So if you do not have a _really_ good reason to use a fribre channel SAN, don't! Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Am 31.03.2013 04:08, schrieb Paul Hartman: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 3:51 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent this but did not really find something usefull. Does anyone got an idea about this? Coincidentally, yesterday US-CERT published a small article about DNS amplification attacks and mitigation strategies: http://www.us-cert.gov/ncas/alerts/TA13-088A Thanks a lot!
Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Am 29.03.2013 um 23:34 schrieb Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Thursday 28 March 2013 20:53:49 Paul Hartman wrote: In my case, my ISP's DNS servers are slow (several seconds to reply), fail randomly when they should resolve, return an IP (which goes to their ad-laden helper website if you are using a web browser) when they should instead return nxdomain, and they have openly admitted to selling customer DNS lookup history to marketers for targeted advertising. That is just evil. Have you no alternative to this ISP? Not really. I have a 100 megabit connection through the cable company; my only wired alternative is DSL (1.5 mbit for almost half the price I'm paying for 100mbit). Cellular or satellite are not viable options for me because of comparatively poor value, latency and miniscule data usage caps. […] It is no longer legal for local governments to award monopolies, but the damage has been done. What we have is essentially the cable TV infrastructure that was laid out during the decade when local cable monopolies were legal, and the cost of entry for a new player into the market now is so high that nobody ever bothers. End result for consumers is a lack of choice. There are some places where competition exists, but those places are pretty rare, in my experience. There are some other possible alternatives to cable internet and DSL, such as municipal wifi, mesh networks, powerline and FTTx, but none are available where I live. The service I receive from the cable company here is actually excellent, with the exception of the aforementioned DNS woes. Pretty much every major ISP in the US does DNS-hijacking and other shenanigans, so there's no avoiding the evilness. I believe the board members of major cable and telecom companies would sell their own mothers into slavery if it meant a rise in share prices or a larger bonus at the end of the year... That is pretty much the same as what happened in Germany. The telephone network was build by the german postal service in the past and was run by the government. As we all know everything works better and cheaper when things are privatized, so the Deutsche Telekom was created and with it a semi monopoly over night. Regions not dense enough are not part of the developing plans of any of the companies. So if you are lucky like me, you are stuck with 16mbit DSL provided by one company rented by an other company. If people start to build their own network or a competitor reaches for a specific underdeveloped region, this region gets an upgrade like to DSL 3 Mbit or something like that, so the competitors draw of. If you are really lucky you live in a region which is really dense or a cable company provides you with internet, so you get 100mbit. But this is only a fraction of all people. If the government is confronted with this they say, the market will regulate that, which it does not. And if voices get too loud, the tell the companies to develop the underdeveloped regions, they shake hands on TV and nothing happens. And as Paul said, most ISP do DNS-hijacking and the like, which breaks things in incredible unexpected ways. So when i wrote this post to the mailing list and got answers like unnecessary crap and why make it available for everyone i thougt, this to be answers of some weirdos which should be ignored. Here you do not trust your ISP… you use the ISP which sucks less or the only one that gives you any internet at all. If you reach a certain level of knowledge, you change your DNS settings to free DNS servers and if you run a resolver you do it for the other poor souls as well. There are lists of unfiltered DNS Servers (http://www.ungefiltert-surfen.de/nameserver/de.html), which are checked regularly if they provide unfiltered answers an the like. And there are howtos for the average user on how to change the dns settings and to avoid your isp´s dns servers. Regards Norman
Re: [Bulk] Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Am 30.03.2013 16:11, schrieb Kevin Chadwick: On Sat, 30 Mar 2013 13:06:16 +0100 Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote: As we all know everything works better and cheaper when things are privatized Actually No it's not so simple at all. You get incompetence in private and public and you may be more likely to get away with it for longer in a public service than in a market with competition but there are many examples where things simply get worse. In the UK, water companies were privatisied and fat cats made lots of money letting the pipes deteriorate for future generations. British Telecom, well that's a mixed bag but it is certainly a tiny shadow of it's original self. We know ideals and theory hardly ever work but theoretically public should be much better when well managed. I wonder if ISPS wouldn't be handling things like TalkTalks Homesafe in such a stupid manner (across the board is where it is stupid, even for non users of the service) where they redirect all the http traffic through an undoubtedly insecure layer 7 handling huawei device with less commercial pressures or analysing bandwidth at layer 7 when they should be doing so more safely and completely at layers 3 and 4 leading me to believe they are not just thinking about bandwidth usage. Why does it matter if you download 1000Gb via torrents or http. ACKs can be managed in any case. I'm glad open source is beginning to make strides into public services as it should help put an end to expensive interoperability issues (if we stay away from non posix things like systemd, though even then shouldn't be too bad ;-)). I think, you did not spot the sarcasm in what i said :-).
Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Am 29.03.2013 01:49, schrieb Peter Humphrey: On Thursday 28 March 2013 20:53:49 Paul Hartman wrote: In my case, my ISP's DNS servers are slow (several seconds to reply), fail randomly when they should resolve, return an IP (which goes to their ad-laden helper website if you are using a web browser) when they should instead return nxdomain, and they have openly admitted to selling customer DNS lookup history to marketers for targeted advertising. That is just evil. Have you no alternative to this ISP? -- Peter Like free and open DNS servers? ;-) Like the one i am talking about and was told it was unnessesary crap? Norman
[gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent this but did not really find something usefull. Does anyone got an idea about this? Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Am 28.03.2013 16:38, schrieb Michael Mol: On 03/28/2013 04:51 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using pdns recursor to provide a dns server which should be usable for everybody.The problem is, that the server seems to be used in dns amplification attacks. I googled around on how to prevent this but did not really find something usefull. Does anyone got an idea about this? I'm not sure it can be done. You can't make a resolver available to everybody without somebody in that everybody group abusing it, and that's exacly what happens in a DNS amplification attack. Restrict your resolver to be accessible only to your network or, at most, those of the specific group of people you're seeking to help. You *might* try restricting the resolver to only respond to TCP requests rather than UDP requests, but if the resolver sends response data along with that first SYN+ACK, then nothing is solved, and you've opened yourself up to a SYN flood-based DoS attack. (OTOH, if your resolver went offline as a result of a SYN flood, at least it wouldn't be part of an amplification attack any longer...) Thank you Michael!
Re: [gentoo-user] How to prevent a dns amplification attack
Am 28.03.2013 10:07, schrieb Adam Carter: Why are you making your server available to everyone? For the lulz mostly.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor
Am 20.11.2012 23:24, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 20.11.2012 21:35, schrieb Norman Rieß: Am 20.11.2012 20:08, schrieb Damien Levac: On 11/20/12 13:33, Norman Rieß wrote: Am 20.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 20.11.2012 14:52, schrieb Norman Rieß: Am 20.11.2012 13:51, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:44:08AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using a Thinkpad X301 with a DVI Monitor connected to the mini displayport. That worked perfectly for years, but with Kernel 3.6 (and 3.7rc) the DVI Monitor stays black on boot and it is not visible in xrandr. As if it wasn't connected at all. [...] What does `xrandr --current` say? (from x11-apps/xrandr) In what situation? 3.5 or 3.6 kernel? In doubt, both. But I'm fairly sure he meant 3.6 since there are no problem to solve in 3.5. :P Yeah, i was kinda irritated by that question, as i allready said, that xrandr does not show the display. [...] Sorry, missed that part. Can you try without KMS? http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting Regards, Florian Philipp Setting nomodeset does not solve the problem. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor
Am 20.11.2012 13:51, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:44:08AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using a Thinkpad X301 with a DVI Monitor connected to the mini displayport. That worked perfectly for years, but with Kernel 3.6 (and 3.7rc) the DVI Monitor stays black on boot and it is not visible in xrandr. As if it wasn't connected at all. Rebooting with 3.5 brings back the Display with full functionality. All i found about this was a Fedora bugreport stating the issue, but is unanswered for a month now. Does someone got an idea here or faced the same issue and solved it? Regards, Norman Can you give us a link to: (1) the Fedora bug report (2) your 3.5 kernel .config (3) your 3.6 (and 3.7rc) kernel .config(s) Yes. (1) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869824 (2) http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.5.4 (3) http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.6.6 http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.7.0-rc6
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor
Am 20.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 20.11.2012 14:52, schrieb Norman Rieß: Am 20.11.2012 13:51, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:44:08AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using a Thinkpad X301 with a DVI Monitor connected to the mini displayport. That worked perfectly for years, but with Kernel 3.6 (and 3.7rc) the DVI Monitor stays black on boot and it is not visible in xrandr. As if it wasn't connected at all. Rebooting with 3.5 brings back the Display with full functionality. All i found about this was a Fedora bugreport stating the issue, but is unanswered for a month now. Does someone got an idea here or faced the same issue and solved it? Regards, Norman Can you give us a link to: (1) the Fedora bug report (2) your 3.5 kernel .config (3) your 3.6 (and 3.7rc) kernel .config(s) Yes. (1) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869824 (2) http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.5.4 (3) http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.6.6 http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.7.0-rc6 What does `xrandr --current` say? (from x11-apps/xrandr) Regards, Florian Philipp In what situation? 3.5 or 3.6 kernel?
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor
Am 20.11.2012 20:08, schrieb Damien Levac: On 11/20/12 13:33, Norman Rieß wrote: Am 20.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 20.11.2012 14:52, schrieb Norman Rieß: Am 20.11.2012 13:51, schrieb Bruce Hill: On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 08:44:08AM +0100, Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am using a Thinkpad X301 with a DVI Monitor connected to the mini displayport. That worked perfectly for years, but with Kernel 3.6 (and 3.7rc) the DVI Monitor stays black on boot and it is not visible in xrandr. As if it wasn't connected at all. Rebooting with 3.5 brings back the Display with full functionality. All i found about this was a Fedora bugreport stating the issue, but is unanswered for a month now. Does someone got an idea here or faced the same issue and solved it? Regards, Norman Can you give us a link to: (1) the Fedora bug report (2) your 3.5 kernel .config (3) your 3.6 (and 3.7rc) kernel .config(s) Yes. (1) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=869824 (2) http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.5.4 (3) http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.6.6 http://smash-net.org/temp/config-3.7.0-rc6 What does `xrandr --current` say? (from x11-apps/xrandr) Regards, Florian Philipp In what situation? 3.5 or 3.6 kernel? In doubt, both. But I'm fairly sure he meant 3.6 since there are no problem to solve in 3.5. :P Damien Yeah, i was kinda irritated by that question, as i allready said, that xrandr does not show the display. 3.5 activates the display during kernel loading, on 3.6 it stays shut off during the whole boot process. 3.6: xrandr --current Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1440 x 900, maximum 32767 x 32767 LVDS1 connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 287mm x 180mm 1440x900 60.0*+ 50.0 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.3 56.2 640x48059.9 VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) - 3.5 both screens mirrored: xrandr --current Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1440 x 900, maximum 32767 x 32767 LVDS1 connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 287mm x 180mm 1440x900 60.0*+ 50.0 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.3 56.2 640x48059.9 VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI1 connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0 + 1600x1200 60.0 1680x1050 59.9 1680x945 60.0 1400x1050 59.9 1600x900 60.0 1280x1024 60.0 1440x900 59.9* 1280x960 60.0 1366x768 60.0 1360x768 60.0 1280x800 59.9 1280x768 60.0 1024x768 60.0 1024x576 60.0 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48060.0 DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) - 3.5 in my dualscreen setup: xrandr --current Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3360 x 1200, maximum 32767 x 32767 LVDS1 connected 1440x900+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 287mm x 180mm 1440x900 60.0*+ 50.0 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.3 56.2 640x48059.9 VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) HDMI1 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 518mm x 324mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 1600x1200 60.0 1680x1050 59.9 1680x945 60.0 1400x1050 59.9 1600x900 60.0 1280x1024 60.0 1440x900 59.9 1280x960 60.0 1366x768 60.0 1360x768 60.0 1280x800 59.9 1280x768 60.0 1024x768 60.0 1024x576 60.0 800x60060.3 56.2 848x48060.0 640x48060.0 DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) DP2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
[gentoo-user] Kernel 3.6: No external Monitor
Hello, i am using a Thinkpad X301 with a DVI Monitor connected to the mini displayport. That worked perfectly for years, but with Kernel 3.6 (and 3.7rc) the DVI Monitor stays black on boot and it is not visible in xrandr. As if it wasn't connected at all. Rebooting with 3.5 brings back the Display with full functionality. All i found about this was a Fedora bugreport stating the issue, but is unanswered for a month now. Does someone got an idea here or faced the same issue and solved it? Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Users hi!
Am 15.11.2012 um 16:46 schrieb BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Joshua Murphy wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: BRM wrote: snip spam Hey, Check this out: List-Unsubscribe: mailto:gentoo-desktop+unsubscr...@lists.gentoo.org Bye. Dale :-) :-) P.S. I wonder if he will get the hint. LOL I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Probably not, since it looks like a fairly hands-off spam attempt, but I have to say, I'm rather amused by the attempt to spoof a Microsoft based site (in url and content) while spamming a Linux mailing list. It's first-line bait to pull someone into an 'online employment' scam, by the looks of it, with the added benefit of ad revenue from those who load that page with a standard browser. Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy Well, I did get a reply on another list. He/she seems to have read it at least. Maybe he/she got the idea. As if anyone here would follow a link like that anyway. It's not like we are a bunch of crazy folks here. lol First, my apologies to this list. I had gotten it from someone else, but bypassed my better judgement in part thinking being on Linux with Firefox were solution enough, which interestingly they were not. Now, the page itself is pretty benign but it provided the spammers a way to attack webmail sites - e.g. Yahoo! - and go through the address book and sent out their own e-mails. My guess is that it had to be a hack into Firefox to support it, but one not yet patched at least by Kubuntu (my work laptop, which I do keep up to date). Ben Well it was on the razor list so it got filtered out anyway.
Re: [gentoo-user] Where to discuss ARM stuff.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 09.08.2012 10:04, schrieb Raffaele BELARDI: On 08/09/2012 07:24 AM, Norman Rieß wrote: Am 08.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Raffaele BELARDI: I have a problem compiling binutils. Full build log can be found here http://smash-net.org/temp/build_log.txt I tried tha vanilla flag and diabled zlib as suggested via google search, but neither did help. I also tried latest unstable version 2.29 i think. Quite obscure... I'd try to reproduce by issuing only the offending line from the shell (the one that compiles options.cc, see below) and then try again removing the -O2 flag. Also check if the disk is full (end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted is suspicious but it could just be a side effect of the compiler crash). There are some build requirements listed in the README under /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.22-r1/work/binutils-2.22/gold/, double check if they are met by your ARM toolchain. If all fails you could try disabling gold compilation (the --enable-gold bit) and just compile/use the standard GCC linker. Sorry, not much else I can think of. I never had to compile the binutils package because I had a binary cross-compiler toolchain for ARM available. raf $ armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.22-r1/work/binutils-2.22/gold - -I/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.22-r1/work/binutils-2.22/gold -I/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.22-r1/work/binutils-2.22/gold/../include - -I/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.22-r1/work/binutils-2.22/gold/../elfcpp -DLOCALEDIR=\/usr/share/binutils-data/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/2.22/locale\ - -DBINDIR=\/usr/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/binutils-bin/2.22\ -DTOOLBINDIR=\/usr/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/bin\ -W -Wall -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -frandom-seed=options.o -O2 -pipe -mcpu=arm1176jzf-s -mfpu=vfp -MT options.o -MD -MP -MF .deps/options.Tpo -c -o options.o /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/binutils-2.22-r1/work/binutils-2.22/gold/options.cc A guy from IRC #gentoo-embedded gave the essential hint yesterday. Setting MAKEOPTS=-j1 instead of -j2 solves the problem. Norman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEbBAEBAgAGBQJQJJAaAAoJEMCA6frkLT6zGmEH90zynjc862ofZ5S9vK6g8Srf Ad9NjzrLXm9cYSfaTQAqJQYXEMr4fofjLQgk00wjW0Ofc7gHCY2BwjewLdN3KgIa f+HVwd+KTxKTZ6kilVgQvZWB6ks/iRe6luJu1qzYDQ7n8QXCRRMGzUZ1jvFOVKOg 8v7xHs+dWppA/JnDMxu2lH2lb14D0U/9QIkvTMb7u/z5aXrRT3IMrDKdtpfhhsVj AYhOjAQ6ii9j8SPOl/AlyAHxnJ0e1cmzNGCDEej2cZ4jAsbVvZAjtq660PBNsD+Y 5ZORsCTVOb3NL1z7UO493HS6D2NKmAFOGha6shvLtGlL6AACod5IVoO3MilU7g== =BpwC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Where to discuss ARM stuff.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, i am running Gentoo on an ARM device and ran into a problem building binutils. I thought to asked about that on an gentoo-arm mailing list, but found, that this list ist listed as closed. So is there an apropriate list or ressource dedicated to that or does gentoo-user cover this? Regards, Norman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQIlWjAAoJEMCA6frkLT6zy6MH/00jNkclFzdM/YcwVGUvYkSO mJmgGTk2BHpdjC02zmKQa2IjpX24tdtfjnFxpwD+klL0h7Es5x4t/C6NN39cBHno prfMRPpDu7+My47D2W/QTCVA0rXTOt0hkNN3yMQUnOpspsMEnclx4RwbBFL69SDN K0lTCK0fJkNV4tQi2GwVzmpBx0ePwZ5/V6XfW1WEnm7mlgeHU4GUACWmG0Z6U3S+ QUya1mLK38gTKF5ylDUZ43G3Ncf0YFEAiBOkLku9R1YQoX06udf0s2iSdd0gWPQ1 gFiNx5XVSLsKKD1pwHA3eCN/c65IsEEeGdpyvMD7IxjBQdy28RGpCMzXxZTzxTo= =7bHu -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Where to discuss ARM stuff.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 08.08.2012 14:14, schrieb Raffaele BELARDI: On 08/08/2012 02:03 PM, Norman Rieß wrote: i am running Gentoo on an ARM device and ran into a problem building binutils. What problem? I have no experience on Gentoo/ARM but some on buildroot/ARM. raf I have a problem compiling binutils. Full build log can be found here http://smash-net.org/temp/build_log.txt I tried tha vanilla flag and diabled zlib as suggested via google search, but neither did help. I also tried latest unstable version 2.29 i think. Any hint would be welcome. Norman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQI0mIAAoJEMCA6frkLT6zsqgIAI1as1BdYXEdK2o2HJCITGSN 29Y/Q6EV5iXQ03TwCQFR+SgMCHy4Z/BdwhrtG+tDC7BpqjoTEFKKG6NTz46wn93D odxhH8lQO1S7OhAUpeknHrxNKunCQicscVepi5S9qxmUklEw578/BCbdFRKgeLxv fDQfWRY0IYq4h/9eGm9FF4FfwtvKFuelXBKIGkDl7y9DY6jm/F7w+Gh0Y/IzqK1M A3pcLY4fSvvTAkOwzDrWZ49tlE/gIJ/UTmfS3IMgStfwColm31eboZhYE6Q3xppk HywrpK40lu1HfoHnP9AT0PnMm+VuqhTWbrdPHD79t7Y1Xio50M83PqbfUMhiLH4= =AJfb -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] Nginx dav-ext webdav the gentoo way
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, i am running an OwnCloud instance on my nginx webserver. The problem is, nginx seems not to implement the OPTIONS and PROPFIND methods of webdav. But these methods are needed to run OwnCloud webdav. There is a nginx-ext-dav module, which supports these methods but this module seems not to be in the nginx ebuild or in the portage tree. So what is the gentoo way here? I would rather like to avoid compiling nginx myself, breaking the update process of portage. I did not find an overlay containing this, but franky, i did not really know how to search for that. Have any of you done this and how? Thank you. Regards, Norman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPlBNGAAoJEMCA6frkLT6zBCcH/0o24uMNFl6kNu6c2TRigrnH BlOkQo8ihnSQqoNmJYOZGwr3CzQuN7vjzFaQUx069u3a6ShGDLHsvVSsjXWbypK7 /5KnLTb9pIqTkT7hLtLwUjOYU1PMnjp0W+xukhgcTmwUp/zPLhL7PhiAW9ZW+6YR W9FYzA9USSBsVosvKkWa+DIlRCfI/lsLYAF1mUQ5QoKeDqz6KPqgnuDhGkuMqyeN U/y4qcwv1XuSagxdH1x41eMPHuz/9JGXgWeY+o2Qb2wL9Oqs0ZDi+Bl5ae+ORfSZ qMhc3PjA8fCNwJJQ9sT4W8q2p3Jz8ytPzHP90GcB+4FQ3IgSD7ZlXH3VUIIO90s= =w+R1 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Nginx dav-ext webdav the gentoo way
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 22.04.2012 17:36, schrieb Mick: On Sunday 22 Apr 2012 15:18:46 Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, i am running an OwnCloud instance on my nginx webserver. The problem is, nginx seems not to implement the OPTIONS and PROPFIND methods of webdav. But these methods are needed to run OwnCloud webdav. There is a nginx-ext-dav module, which supports these methods but this module seems not to be in the nginx ebuild or in the portage tree. So what is the gentoo way here? I would rather like to avoid compiling nginx myself, breaking the update process of portage. I did not find an overlay containing this, but franky, i did not really know how to search for that. Have any of you done this and how? Thank you. Regards, Norman Have a look here: http://gpo.zugaina.org/ Thank you, i allready searched this site, but did not find nginx with dav-ext or dav-ext as stand alone package. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPlGpGAAoJEMCA6frkLT6zDSQH/1NQji3+HtE02mv9XphRXakP /S7ZCwJ9OfqmEEcLmtycedew3zZr4bETsURN0HLMPeNWB+aGxNOSMjDIkS4PYqJg Gse8WBNmVlgKrTRqTUhAbu1UzILACASsdYrK/e6SL8dmffUW5rmeK8lKAe45BIrj wf1uYAOqxOdAlCWsJsfkOF/isMx3IQewXuP45oj4I0W8Vo5FWehGi52mdoxVdQOx ROtw5oOQOJBz2gWkKl2/0biyMgASlRk1rkEB0eR8RSvPHoeYEjBnCumcvwYdn+W6 6xuD3BpFqMzH2wEEgtAz7qLDdTcCC4juJTDdvrtFf5Iyi5AAvWpt+WMyl4ObJ8k= =hPGi -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] Jabber server recommendation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/22/11 05:39, Mike Diehl wrote: At the risk of starting a religious war, I'd like to ask for a recommendation for a Jabber server. I just tried to install ejabberd, only to find out that it's written in erklang and that seems to crash on my system. I'd like a native C/C++ implementation. That leaves Jabber and jabber2. Is there any reason to pick one over the other? Are there other choices I should look at? TIA, Take a look at prosody. Regards, Norman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJO8soEAAoJEMCA6frkLT6zLzMH/1s2A+ZkH/286thvlc8xmCdY JDoe59vj4162MHQ0TeS64GrrnR9k/fNVRE3OE6Uq0Q9N8KCVmhdW3iv4WM5sJVMe DvpT+9E2cDgzEA89mcdwtT7eU2bM4jhCD1H0Wa7eDoynSGtCWDeunH/DjaR3y1w0 IkMngqvJysl6BHg1J6CCoYRDl+bycSqtH6AcwmAN/0avTawYuW9TGC13nJ9c34kH TvefpgRYRr85UAK7j63BjR9XRbxBqn3iYDsrCNJIg6EgekDNgQlaiH0TRJZNvCr3 EIwGKsHsbbCOpB+tqBf574O7fZPkMxvCVUxR4vZHCHzJz8CF1a7o0PwU2DtdC9c= =WNCZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] embedded gentoo?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/11 09:49, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 08:18:01 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: That's nothing, someone once put NetBSD on a toaster. And someone else managed to install Linux on a dead badger, but I think that was a spoof. That's nothing, Nokia have put Windows on a phone! Seems pretty far fetched to me :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOxiexAAoJEMCA6frkLT6z8WoH/2j5v0fAi1fRKzuAgdrFlDTm sWUd6IAfrMMXTartGeT9yZgUYLXqrIdcU375D6jY0I+BE4Ic0jqnjVFkMdrgWekl JioEYeuqtB2s6URQyBDRmGAI56y5Tuy2U5AcrjEQWzRmy7LTbrgbNUYKhpw1hZSL jaFyhKlkGOhUX7C6eNQeTmzr/WPx9ymLigGCmX22RoIbVqxCSicBBA9sGe4aI9re mBShiuBmKqxhdcXJ9N9iNcUYh7sQ4vBOuWzyLSKDNPJ4mjnBe0JUbMMtDCztC28w HNb9v6X90zOyR1A1OnXEGzADFTfQbkomgkKgSWSJxT9PGCEM5mqZxL62cHDNLU0= =IiLZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] (OT) TP-Link TL-MR3420 GPL?
Am 08/19/11 09:35, schrieb Pandu Poluan: Just bought a TP-Link TL-MR3420 3G/3.75G Wireless N Router (the kind that accepts a 3G or EVDO USB modem), and the first thing that fell on my hand when I opened it... ... is a printed copy of GPL! I wonder what GPLicensed software this access point uses... anyone knows? Rgds, Most routers, nas devices, TVs, toasters run a modified or sometimes not modified version of linux (Debian, Slackware etc.) with stock daemons providing their funktionality. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org mailto:nor...@smash-net.org wrote: Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP can be quite heavy on resources on the server-side. I use a quad-core AMD for my server. -- Joost Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom which holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the IMAP-Server. I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users on IMAP. Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. Norman Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? - Matt Atom: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds. Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds. Geode: genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 * sys-devel/gcc Sat Feb 26 19:11:36 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds. Fri Mar 25 05:51:21 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 2 seconds. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 09:50, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 06:45:14 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even installing from binary packages is painfully slow. I have three Atom machines here, a small server, a netbook and a nettop used as a MythTV frontend, and the only compiling any of them do is for their kernels. I am not sitting in front of it watching stuff scroll by and its funktion (Wifi-Accesspoint) is not affected by compiling... Sure it takes a little longer, but why should i care. And compiling on the Atoms is not worth a mention... my pentium m is less snappy.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 11:08, schrieb Neil Bothwick: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:41:57 +0200, Norman Rieß wrote: Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. That's just plain masochism. I have one of those and even installing from binary packages is painfully slow. I have three Atom machines here, a small server, a netbook and a nettop used as a MythTV frontend, and the only compiling any of them do is for their kernels. I am not sitting in front of it watching stuff scroll by and its funktion (Wifi-Accesspoint) is not affected by compiling... Sure it takes a little longer, but why should i care. Most of the time, there's no need. There are times when a package is updated and needs a config update immediately after or you could end up with the new program being called with the old config. Binary installs mean you have a better idea of when that will need to be done. It's not a big issue, but I already have the binary build setup so adding one more host was a simple matter of creating a directory for the chroot and adding the host name to an existing script. How long did the initial install take on the Geode? I installed to the chroot on the build host in the first place then rsynced everything across. Yes, and when i return to that shell some time later i scroll through the package messages and do what needs to be done, followed by a etc-update, revdep-rebuild, depclean and sometimes lafilefixer. I am not saying, i update like fire and forget :-). Everyone should use a setting that one sees fit. That's why we use Gentoo, right? Because we have that choice. If you have a well working setup in place, then it is only right to use it. Can't remember how long it take exactly, but here is the ouput of a whole system rebuild with a kind of funny estimate :-). Shows you all the packages, too. Just wondering myself right now, why there are N and U packages, when emerge -uDN world shows nothing to do... emerge -pe system world | genlop -p These are the pretended packages: (this may take a while; wait...) [ebuild R] sys-libs/zlib-1.2.5-r2 [ebuild R] virtual/libintl-0 [ebuild R] app-arch/xz-utils-5.0.1 [ebuild R] sys-devel/gnuconfig-20110202 [ebuild R] dev-libs/expat-2.0.1-r3 [ebuild R] virtual/libiconv-0 [ebuild R] app-misc/pax-utils-0.2.2 [ebuild R] app-arch/bzip2-1.0.6 [ebuild R] app-misc/mime-types-8 [ebuild R] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.4.1-r1 [ebuild R] app-arch/cpio-2.11 [ebuild R] sys-libs/timezone-data-2011e [ebuild R] sys-fs/sysfsutils-2.1.0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/tcp-wrappers-7.6-r8 [ebuild R] dev-libs/libffi-3.0.9-r2 [ebuild R] sys-devel/patch-2.5.9 [ebuild R] sys-apps/which-2.20 [ebuild R] sys-devel/autoconf-wrapper-10-r1 [ebuild R] sys-devel/automake-wrapper-4 [ebuild R] sys-process/cronbase-0.3.2-r1 [ebuild R] mail-client/mailx-support-20060102-r1 [ebuild R] dev-libs/libnl-1.1-r2 [ebuild R] app-portage/portage-utils-0.3.1 [ebuild R] net-misc/rdate-1.4-r3 [ebuild R] sys-kernel/module-rebuild-0.5 [ebuild R] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.36.1 [ebuild R] virtual/libffi-0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/sandbox-2.4 [ebuild R] sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20110409135728 [ebuild R] sys-apps/module-init-tools-3.16-r1 [ebuild R] sys-devel/m4-1.4.15 [ebuild R] sys-apps/pciutils-3.1.7 [ebuild R] virtual/os-headers-0 [ebuild R] dev-libs/gmp-4.3.2 [ebuild R] dev-libs/mpfr-3.0.0_p3 [ebuild R] sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r1 [ebuild R] virtual/init-0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/baselayout-2.0.3 [ebuild R] sys-apps/debianutils-3.4.4 [ebuild R] sys-devel/libperl-5.10.1 [ebuild N ] virtual/pam-0 [ebuild R] net-mail/mailbase-1 [ebuild R] virtual/man-0 [ebuild R] sys-apps/man-pages-posix-2003a [ebuild R] app-i18n/man-pages-de-0.5-r1 [ebuild R] sys-apps/man-pages-3.28 [ebuild R] sys-auth/pambase-20101024 [ebuild R] virtual/acl-0 [ebuild R] app-admin/python-updater-0.9 [ebuild R] sys-devel/binutils-config-2-r1 [ebuild R] app-admin/eselect-vi-1.1.7-r1 [ebuild R] virtual/mta-0 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-MIME-Base64-3.08 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder-0.27.03 [ebuild R] app-admin/eselect-ctags-1.13 [ebuild R] dev-util/ctags-5.7 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.024 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Digest-MD5-2.39 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-libnet-1.220.0-r1 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Module-Build-0.36.07 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.17 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-Archive-Tar-1.54 [ebuild R] virtual/perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS-2.22.05 [ebuild R] sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1.1-r1 [ebuild R] sys-apps/sed-4.2.1 [ebuild R] sys-apps
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/18/11 12:08, schrieb James Broadhead:
On 18 August 2011 09:23, Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org wrote:
Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel:
Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc?
- Matt
Atom:
genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
* sys-devel/gcc
Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds.
Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds.
I have an Atom 330 machine which is getting significantly worse
build-times than you. What make.conf options are you using? (Or are
you using something else to improve build times?)
Wed Mar 16 04:49:09 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 2 hours, 56 minutes and 20 seconds.
Thu May 5 22:07:36 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4
merge time: 2 hours, 14 minutes and 15 seconds.
Fri May 6 00:35:53 2011 sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
merge time: 2 hours, 28 minutes and 17 seconds.
Admittedly, my machine runs xbmc, which is a resource hog, and has a
fair bit of disk activity.
My CFLAGS are:
CFLAGS=-O2 -march=core2 -mtune=generic -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
-mssse3 -mfpmath=sse
which date to before -march=atom, and having read a performance
article suggesting these. I note that the only practical difference
between the resultant gcc options is that setting -mtune to core2 adds
#define __tune_core2__ 1. I wonder what the practical difference is.
echo | gcc -dM -E - -O2 -march=core2 -mtune=generic
-fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse
I suppose, having looked into it this far, I'll merge gcc-4.5 to see
what effect -mtune=atom has.
(I'm not particularly interested in build times, but whether they're a
sign of poor overall performance ... )
JB
Well i use an Atom D510, the core features seems to be quite similar to
yours, with the only difference, that D510 has a graphics unit added.
Here is my make.conf... how many threads are you using in gcc?
CFLAGS=-O2 -pipe -march=core2 -mssse3 -mfpmath=sse
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
MAKEOPTS=-j5
USE=-X -gtk -gtk2 -qt3 -qt4 -gnome -kde unicode nls -mysql mmx sse sse2
ssse3 acpi hddtemp threads iproute2
LINGUAS=de
AUTOCLEAN=yes
FEATURES=parallel-fetch
Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation sometimes does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions. I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, but it's too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it NFS-exports its packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit chroot set up as an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages available for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation though. The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to the LAN. It runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for the other boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to set that up. Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option. IMAP can be quite heavy on resources on the server-side. I use a quad-core AMD for my server. -- Joost Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom which holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for the IMAP-Server. I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users on IMAP. Concerning the Atom not fast enough for compiling-Problem. I compiled, run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less powerfull and it works just fine. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered
Am 08/16/11 03:48, schrieb Michael Mol: On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street This is related to a question I wanted to poll the list with. How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Production use? For server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting setup or use case? I had Gentoo on both my desktop and HTPC, but I had to cannibalize the HTPC for parts, so now it's just on my primary desktop box. My usecases for Gentoo are desktop / laptop, fileserver, router, a kvm guest on my rootserver and an AMD Geode based WLAN-Accesspoint. So i am running Gentoo on 6 of my 7 systems plus the kvm guest. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Scripts not working... HELP!
Am 04/29/11 00:16, schrieb Walter Dnes: It appears that it's only python scripts that are not executing. By sheer chance, I wanted to use 2 scripts that involved python. My getcot script invokes getmail which is a python script. emerge is also a python script. Maybe it's just python scripts that are the problem. Last minute update == I ran eselect python set 1, and things appear to be working now. I'm not sure if it's my memory fading, but I seem to recall that before I ran eselect python set 1, I got... [i3][root][~] eselect python list Available Python interpreters: [1] python2.7 [2] python3.1 I.e. neither one was selected. Is it possible that... * my selected version was python2.6 * I ran an update and removed the python 2.6 * but forgot to select 2.7 That is kind of what i told you...
Re: [gentoo-user] Scripts not working... HELP!
Had similar symptoms as my default system python was not defined properly. Use eselect python list --python2 to see if that is the case. Set it with eselect python set --python2 number if necessary. Regards Norman Am 04/28/11 07:40, schrieb Walter Dnes: This message is coming from my 32-bit hot backup gentoo machine. For some reason, any script that I call on my 64-bit machine immediately returns to the command prompt. No warnings or error messages or diagnostics. Builtins and compiled executables work OK. For instance, if I have a script named xyz that goes like so... #!/bin/bash man bash ..., executing xyz or ~/bin/xyz results in bash immediately returning to to the command prompt. If I type man bash, it works OK. On top of everything else, getmail seems to go into forkbomb mode, generating a gazillion processes, and eventually locking up the machine, if I type in... /usr/bin/getmail -v -v -v --rcfile rc_cotse It looks like the script is being totally ignored, e.g... waltdnes@i3 ~ $ emerge anyone home? waltdnes@i3 ~ $ Any ideas what gives?
Re: [gentoo-user] removing gtk+ as requested by --depclean
Am 04/28/11 14:28, schrieb Allan Gottlieb: (I confess to being a little over cautious after xcb.) After today's update word (just a few updates were specified/done). --depclean recommended These are the packages that would be unmerged: x11-libs/gtk+ selected: 3.0.9 protected: none omitted: 2.24.3 All selected packages: x11-libs/gtk+-3.0.9 I am a gnome user so gtk is important and I notice that it is suggesting I remove the highest version. I decided not to remove it until I checked here. My system is ~amd64 Advice appreciated. allan Hi, you can check with equery d x11-libs/gtk+ if there is a package which depends on this version. I expect there will be none, otherwise depclean would not want to remove it. If you remove it, you can run revdep-rebuild to see if any programs have broken libs und rebuild them. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] how to forbid dhcp for eth0
Am 01/14/11 06:33, schrieb doherty pete: when i start the kernel, it wait long time to dhcp for eth0: eth0:dhcped 4.0.15 starting eth0:waiting for carrier i want to forbid dhcp,how can i do? Hi, configure a static IP or bring up the interface without configuration with config_eth0=( null ) If you do not want dhcp at all, unmerge dhcpcd. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant
On 09/08/10 10:43, Al wrote: emails too. But you still get the 'new mails' indicator. Good, that you finally start to understand that mails have their disadvantages in producing noise. If you would go a step further you will be able to recognize, how this puts a cap on the potential userbase of Gentoo. Al My list mails get sorted in subfolders and only the mails that get in the main inbox are indicated as new mail. So lists do not generate noise here.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoos community communication rant
On 09/07/10 01:55, Al wrote: 2.) It is not on a public available gentoo server. I first would need access to alt.os.linux.gentoo. I think if you want so run an maintain such a server, it would be welcome. 3.) It is not synchronized with the mailing list. It is. At least it was when i used it till a year or so ago.
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo 32bit-64bit: How?
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Am 06.09.2010 19:27, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
Hi,
My questions are:
1) Is there a performance gain, when migrating to 64bit if the
target applications supports 64bit?
2) Is it possible - if( true ){ how(); } - to simply
convert a 32bit system to 64 bit.
Simply in my case means: Simpler ways than starting right
from the bare metal of a virgin harddisk and doing the same
stuff I did for the current system again... ;)
3) Is there some tutorial, which show me the path to go?
Thank you very much in advance for any help!
Best regards,
mcc
The only way i know to migrate to 64bit is a reinstallation. But the
config files are the same of cause, so it should not be so hard as the
first install if you save your /etc and /home.
The CPU vendors tell, that 64bit code is faster on their 64bit capable
CPUs. Personally i newer thought, oh yes i feel it, this is 64bit. If
there is a speed gain, it is marginal or only in special cases.
So if you only want to switch to 64bit because of the memory, you could
also use PAE till you want to reinstall anyway.
Nevertheless 64bit on a 64bit capable CPU seems like the way to go :-).
Regards,
Norman
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on 8GB SSD
On 08/17/10 18:59, Stéphane Guedon wrote: Is a SSD capable of supporting gentoo ? That's a good idea ! You may be a pionneer ! Let's try... Not really. Gentoo is running fine on SSD and why wouldn't it. A data storage device does not care what data it stores. Gentoo is even running fine on CF. This is my first hand experience. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] I've been hacked.
Am 05/11/10 08:54, schrieb Grant: I nmap'ed one of my remote Gentoo servers today and besides the expected open ports were these: 1080/tcp open socks 3128/tcp open squid-http 8080/tcp open http-proxy I'm not running any sort of proxy software that I know of and I should be the only person whatsoever with access to the machine. 'netstat -l' doesn't show any info on those ports at all so I suppose it's been hacked as well? I installed and ran 'rkhunter --check' (what happened to the chrootkit ebuild?) but it doesn't seem to be much use since I hadn't established a file of stored file properties. What do you guys think is going on? What should I do from here? What does lsof (I'd reinstall it afresh) show with regards to strange users? What users the above services run under. If indeed they are not legitimate and you confirm that they are not being run as packages that you installed, then I'm afraid the only sane option is to reinstall. Wow. I'm actually seeing the same thing from other domains I nmap. Could my ISP have some kind of a weird environment set up that makes it look like there are ports such as these open on remote systems? Right now I'm on some kind of a shared connection where everyone has their own modem or router or whatever it is, but I think everyone's IP is the same. - Grant Hello, looks like, your ISP has a Transparent Proxy Setup running. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Checking sanity of system...
Am 04.04.2010 07:18, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, this is no security issue in sense of attacks...it is related to the consistency of the system. Simple question (and may be complicate to answer... ;) ) How can I check, that my Gentoo system is uptodate, consistent and sane? Best regards, mcc Hi, Every Update: emerge --sync emerge -uDN world -- Read the Packagemessages for Instructions. etc-update# Merge new Configfiles revdep-rebuild# Identify broken libraries From time to time: emerge --deplcean (-p) revdep-rebuild# Delete old packages and sort out the resulting broken packages eclean distfiles# Delete the old source-packages in your distfile repo. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer: xvid and lavc
Am 03/18/10 12:20, schrieb Arnau Bria: Hi all, I'm trying to add some sub to a video with menconder (following a receipt). I run something like: mencoder mi_video.avi -oac pcm -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=xvid:mbd=2:trell:autoaspect -sub mis_subs.srt -subfont-text-scale 3 -o video_final.avi but I get the error: [...] Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3) == Cannot find codec 'xvid' in libavcodec... Couldn't open video filter 'lavc'. Failed to open the encoder. I though that building mplayer with xvid support should be enough: $ eix media-video/mplayer [I] media-video/mplayer (...) but seems that not it isn't. and don't know what lavc is... anyone could tell me what package/s are missing in my system? TIA Hello, i allways had problems with lavc so i used xvid in mplayer directly: mencoder sourcefile -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=vbitrate -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=abitrate -o result_path Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer: xvid and lavc
Am 03/18/10 13:14, schrieb Arnau Bria: On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:38:01 +0100 Norman Rieß wrote: Hello, Hi Norman, i allways had problems with lavc so i used xvid in mplayer directly: mencoder sourcefile -ovc xvid -xvidencopts bitrate=vbitrate -oac mp3lame -lameopts abr:br=abitrate -o result_path I don't get it source file is avi file, but where is sub file? Regards Norman Thanks for your reply, Cheers Um...it is not the exact command you should use in your case with the subs, it is an example on how to bypass the lavc problem. Producing a working command, that suits _your_ needs is still your job ;-).
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
Am 03/11/10 11:23, schrieb Arnau Bria: lx-arnau linux # ls /usr/src/linux arch crypto firmware include ipc lib Module.markers Module.symvers scripts sound usr vmlinux block drivers fsinit kernel mm modules.order net security System.map virt vmlinux.o lx-arnau linux # ls -lsa /usr/src/linux/.config 92 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 87932 2010-03-11 11:16 /usr/src/linux/.config so, why is ati complaining aboput my kerel conf? TIA, This listing is not a complete kernel set. Did you do a emerge --depclean lately? Reemerge you kernel ebuild and do a make oldconfig to be sure. Then try it again. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers: no kernel found?
Am 03/11/10 11:55, schrieb Arnau Bria: On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:31:03 +0100 Norman Rieß wrote: [...] This listing is not a complete kernel set. For curiosity, what is missing? make oldconfing?¿ Did you do a emerge --depclean lately? yep. Reemerge you kernel ebuild and do a make oldconfig to be sure. I'm with r6 and gentoo-sources is at r10, is it important? do Ihave to remerge r6 too? Then try it again. Norman Thanks, Arnau A complete listing looks like this: bragi linux # ls arch drivers Kbuild modules.builtin samples usr block firmware kernel modules.orderscripts virt COPYINGfslib Module.symvers securityvmlinux CREDITSinclude MAINTAINERS net sound vmlinux.o crypto init Makefile README System.map Documentation ipc mm REPORTING-BUGS tools bragi linux # Depclean seems to delete some parts of the kernel directory if you have a newer kernel ebuild available. Had that too, once. Which release you use r6 or r10 is your choise. r10 is newer with more security patches and such, so i would say you should use that one. Do you know how to deal with a kernel update? Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on SSD
Am 02/16/10 10:28, schrieb alain.didierj...@free.fr: I'm thinking of re-installing Gentoo on an Intel 40 Megs SSD -- excluding the most often writen dirs like /var, /tmp, /home --. What do you think ? I'll be glad to hear about previous experiences. What about swap ? Is it safe to have it on the SSD ? Hi, i have a Gentoo System on SSD running for a while now. No problems. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Howto generate a list of installed packages?
Alan E. Davis wrote: Season's Greetings to one and all. I would like to be able to generate a script or list of packages of some kind that would enable me to install Gentoo with an identical profile of installed packages. Since with Debian/Ubuntu one can run dpkg --get-selections file and dpkg --set-selections file (or some such), one imagines that the Gentoo gurus/magicians are able to do something similar. It takes me months to get a new machine up to speed. In fact, I have just realized I don't have tcsh installed, something I hardly EVER use, but need to run a one of a kind script. Can anyone make a suggestion? Am I missing something? Thanks Alan Davis /var/lib/portage/world contains all packages you installed. Copy that file over to you new system and do a emerge --sync emerge -puDN world and you should be done. Norman
[gentoo-user] Question about sfdisk
Hello, i am trying to change the partitionlayout of a disk with sfdisk in a script. Partitioning works fine. But now i want to leave a partition untouched. So how can i ignore a certain partition? With input like ,,, ,42000,7,* ,148000,7, or ; ,42000,7,* ,148000,7, the first line of course grabs all the space an the other lines raise an error. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Grant schrieb: Leave INTERFACES blank. As you keep the networks seperated, hostapd does not depend on any other devices. wlan0 is initialized by hostapd. So you are good to go. The accesspoint itself, so to say the wlan part does not have any IP adress, at it is merely a connectionpoint for normal wlan systems. The IP adress to your device however is defined by the other nics. In your case eth1. I don't have eth1 set up yet. For now I just want eth0 on the WAN and wlan0 on the LAN. eth0 dhcp's from my ISP, but I need to specify a local IP address for my LAN somewhere right? wlan0 in master mode does _not_ have an IP adress. So far eth0 is the only ip adress your device has. If you do not spezify a local ip adress on eth1, you will not have any local ip adress. For the shorewall business, you have to tell, what you want to do with shorewall exactely. I dare say you have a wlan zone as your AP and a loc zone with eth1. As i am using bridging i can not tell you if and how shorewall responds. But if you want to keep eth1 an wlan0 seperate, what so you need shorewall for? Since the AP system is also the router, I use shorewall for NAT, port closing, port forwarding, and packet shaping. shorewall gives an empty loc zone error if I don't have net.wlan0 started because wlan0 is the only loc interface. - Grant You can let shorewall depend on hostapd, so your shorewall starts after hostapd and your wlan0. Check the depend() section in shorewalls rc-script.
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Grant schrieb: Leave INTERFACES blank. As you keep the networks seperated, hostapd does not depend on any other devices. wlan0 is initialized by hostapd. So you are good to go. The accesspoint itself, so to say the wlan part does not have any IP adress, at it is merely a connectionpoint for normal wlan systems. The IP adress to your device however is defined by the other nics. In your case eth1. I don't have eth1 set up yet. For now I just want eth0 on the WAN and wlan0 on the LAN. eth0 dhcp's from my ISP, but I need to specify a local IP address for my LAN somewhere right? wlan0 in master mode does _not_ have an IP adress. So far eth0 is the only ip adress your device has. If you do not spezify a local ip adress on eth1, you will not have any local ip adress. I'm very confused. I've been running wlan0 in master mode for about 3 years with IP 192.168.0.1 and no eth1. Here was my entire /etc/conf.d/net: config_eth0=( dhcp ) mode_wlan0=( master ) essid_wlan0=( networkname ) channel_wlan0=( 11 ) config_wlan0=( 192.168.0.1 broadcast 192.168.0.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 ) All I'm trying to do is switch wireless drivers from madwifi-ng to the in-kernel ath5k. With madwifi-ng, I started net.wlan0, started hostapd, and started shorewall and everything worked perfectly. Now with ath5k, net.wlan0 won't start in master mode. This causes 2 problems: 1. I can't specify a local IP for wlan0 in /etc/conf.d/net like I've been doing for years. 2. shorewall checks whether or not net.wlan0 has started because wlan0 is the only device in zone loc, so shorewall won't start. So I'm required to have an eth1 because I'm switching from madwifi-ng to ath5k? That doesn't seem right. For the shorewall business, you have to tell, what you want to do with shorewall exactely. I dare say you have a wlan zone as your AP and a loc zone with eth1. As i am using bridging i can not tell you if and how shorewall responds. But if you want to keep eth1 an wlan0 seperate, what so you need shorewall for? Since the AP system is also the router, I use shorewall for NAT, port closing, port forwarding, and packet shaping. shorewall gives an empty loc zone error if I don't have net.wlan0 started because wlan0 is the only loc interface. - Grant You can let shorewall depend on hostapd, so your shorewall starts after hostapd and your wlan0. Check the depend() section in shorewalls rc-script. I'm confused here too. shorewall seems to be checking whether or not net.wlan0 has started, not whether the wlan0 interface is up. Trying to start shorewall after hostapd has started results in the same error described above because net.wlan0 hasn't been started. - Grant Well, madwifi-ng is a matured project with an insanely great featureset. ath5k ap mode till this day is not activated in the kernel. You have to activate it with a code patch, the gentoo rc-script can not cope with it yet. hostapd needs to be a new version and has to initialize the device itself. Of course you can not expect the same features and easy to use behaviour from such an experimental software. You seem to have a working setup, which suits your needs. Unless you have a serious reason i would not change a running and supported system.
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Stroller schrieb: On 12 Jun 2009, at 16:38, Grant wrote: ... OK, thank you Norman. The reason I'm trying to switch (this is my third serious attempt) is some kind of a bug that crashes the system when SMP is enabled and the madwifi driver is in master mode. I've been running without SMP, but I could really use the extra power. That's interesting. I had an old 4 x processor machine running as an access-point (madwifi or madwifi-ng) running in master mode for at least a year or two. It was unstable as heck, and I never attributed it to this. It would, however, stay up for days or weeks at a time. Maybe this bug has crept in more recently? I'm not sure that it will apply to my new system (on which I'd like to run an AP, as soon as I get round to it) as that is a single processor P4. Do you know if there is better Gentoo support for this on the horizon? I did find the dev uberlord immensely helpful when I was first doing this. He was the baselayout guy at the time, although I don't know if he still is or if you might be able to get hold of him. IMO the first thing to do is get the AP up running without resort to the Gentoo init.d scripts. Try allocating an IP address to wlan0 just using `ifconfig` as root. If that works then you know the hardware principles of operation are all ok. Stroller. I would recomment the same thing. Play around manualy. Find out what works and what does not. And if you found a manual way, you can start scriptworkarounds and automating things.
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Grant schrieb: Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I tried to start up hostapd... penguin ~ # /etc/init.d/hostapd start * Bringing up interface wlan0 * Configuring wireless network for wlan0 * Scanning for access points * no access points found * Failed to configure wireless for wlan0 * ERROR: net.wlan0 failed to start * ERROR: cannot start hostapd as net.wlan0 would not start It's suppose to be an access point, not scanning for one so do you have any idea what I should do now? Did you remove wlan0 from the /etc/conf.d/hostapd file? No, should I just leave it empty? INTERFACES= What about /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf? Do I leave it like this... interface=wlan0 ...or remove that line too? INTERFACES should at least contain the bridge device. The wired NIC does not hurt either. In /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf wlan0 is needed to tell hostapd which device it has to initialize, so leave it like this. I've almost got this working, but I don't know what to include in the /etc/conf.d/hostapd INTERFACES variable since I don't have a br0 device or configuration. Do I need one? If I leave INTERFACES empty and I don't start net.wlan0, I don't have a way to define the IP address for the AP, and shorewall's loc zone is empty because net.wlan0 hasn't started. - Grant What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge to a wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired network. This is quite usual though... Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are connected and can not connect to your wired systems.
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
What do you want to do with your accesspoint. You will need a bridge to a wired network if you want your ap attached to that wired network. This is quite usual though... Without a bridge to a wired network, only the wlan systems are connected and can not connect to your wired systems. That's no problem, I'm OK with keeping eth1 and wlan0 separate. Right now I just want to get wlan0 working. Do you know how to do that? I can't start net.wlan0 because it chokes on master mode, so I don't know how to specify an IP for the AP or how to fill shorewall's loc zone as that is normally filled by net.wlan0. - Grant Leave INTERFACES blank. As you keep the networks seperated, hostapd does not depend on any other devices. wlan0 is initialized by hostapd. So you are good to go. The accesspoint itself, so to say the wlan part does not have any IP adress, at it is merely a connectionpoint for normal wlan systems. The IP adress to your device however is defined by the other nics. In your case eth1. For the shorewall business, you have to tell, what you want to do with shorewall exactely. I dare say you have a wlan zone as your AP and a loc zone with eth1. As i am using bridging i can not tell you if and how shorewall responds. But if you want to keep eth1 an wlan0 seperate, what so you need shorewall for?
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Jason Carson schrieb: Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I tried to start up hostapd... penguin ~ # /etc/init.d/hostapd start * Bringing up interface wlan0 * Configuring wireless network for wlan0 * Scanning for access points * no access points found * Failed to configure wireless for wlan0 * ERROR: net.wlan0 failed to start * ERROR: cannot start hostapd as net.wlan0 would not start It's suppose to be an access point, not scanning for one so do you have any idea what I should do now? Did you remove wlan0 from the /etc/conf.d/hostapd file?
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Jason Carson schrieb: Jason Carson schrieb: Thanks for the clarification Norman :-) ok, I removed net.wlan0 so it doesn't start up anymore. My computer booted up and all the services are working the way they should, however I am having a problem getting hostapd to start. Here is the error I get when I tried to start up hostapd... penguin ~ # /etc/init.d/hostapd start * Bringing up interface wlan0 * Configuring wireless network for wlan0 * Scanning for access points * no access points found * Failed to configure wireless for wlan0 * ERROR: net.wlan0 failed to start * ERROR: cannot start hostapd as net.wlan0 would not start It's suppose to be an access point, not scanning for one so do you have any idea what I should do now? Did you remove wlan0 from the /etc/conf.d/hostapd file? No, should I just leave it empty? INTERFACES= What about /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf? Do I leave it like this... interface=wlan0 ...or remove that line too? INTERFACES should at least contain the bridge device. The wired NIC does not hurt either. In /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf wlan0 is needed to tell hostapd which device it has to initialize, so leave it like this.
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Jason Carson schrieb: Alright, I have done everything you have suggested but when hostapd tries to start I am getting this error... penguin ~ # /etc/init.d/hostapd start * Starting hostapd... Configuration file: /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf Failed to set interface wlan0 to master mode. nl80211 driver initialization failed. ELOOP: remaining socket: sock=5 eloop_data=0x80f1a38 user_data=(nil) handler=0x8091790 * start-stop-daemon: failed to start `/usr/sbin/hostapd' [ !! ] * ERROR: hostapd failed to start Do you have any idea why this is happening? Not quite... What kernelsettings do you activate for you wlan?
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Jason Carson schrieb: Jason Carson schrieb: Alright, I have done everything you have suggested but when hostapd tries to start I am getting this error... penguin ~ # /etc/init.d/hostapd start * Starting hostapd... Configuration file: /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf Failed to set interface wlan0 to master mode. nl80211 driver initialization failed. ELOOP: remaining socket: sock=5 eloop_data=0x80f1a38 user_data=(nil) handler=0x8091790 * start-stop-daemon: failed to start `/usr/sbin/hostapd' [ !! ] * ERROR: hostapd failed to start Do you have any idea why this is happening? Not quite... What kernelsettings do you activate for you wlan? I used the kernel settings mentioned here... http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath5k#Enabling_ath5k ...but I built everything directly into the kernel, NOT as modules. I have attached my .config to this email so you can see if I am missing anything. I also activated CONFIG_HOSTAP=y CONFIG_HOSTAP_FIRMWARE=y CONFIG_HOSTAP_FIRMWARE_NVRAM=y but i think i found the real reason. I checked the 2.6.29.x ath5k base.c and found, that the AP code is still dormant. You need to apply this patch: --- linux-2.6.29/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c 2009-02-10 06:11:43.186470883 +0100 +++ linux-2.6.29/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c.old 2008-11-14 09:36:40.0 +0100 @@ -522,6 +501,7 @@ hw-wiphy-interface_modes = BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_STATION) | BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_ADHOC) | + BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_AP) | BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_MESH_POINT); hw-extra_tx_headroom = 2; Open the file /usr/src/linux-yourversion/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c, search for hw-wiphy-interface_modes and the apply the line BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_AP) | between these lines. Rebuild and install the kernel. Background: The AP code is there, but it is not activated yet. This line activates it. I thought newer 2.6.29er kernels do not have this restriction, so i did not think of this, but apparently they do.
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Jason Carson schrieb: Greetings, I am trying to setup a wireless access point using the atheros kernel driver (Built into the kernel, not as a module). I am using Vanilla-Sources 2.6.29.4. I need my wireless network card to start up in master mode but for some reason it is starting up in managed mode. When wlan0 starts up I get this error message... * Bringing up interface wlan0 *configuring wireless network for wlan0 Error for wireless request Set Mode (8B06) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; invalid argument. *wlan0 connected to SSID MyNetwork *in managed mode (WEP Disabled) * null...[ ok ] then when hostapd starts up I get this error message... * Starting hostapd... Configuration file: /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf Failed to set interface wlan0 to master mode. nl80211 driver initialization failed. ELOOP: remaining socket: sock=5 eloop_data=0x80f5a38 user_data=(nil) handler=0x8094b70 * start-stop-daemon: failed to start `/usr/sbin/hostapd' [ !! ] * ERROR: hostapd failed to start Here is my /etc/conf.d/net config_eth0=69.196.152.151 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 69.196.152.255 config_eth1=null config_wlan0=null bridge_br0=eth1 wlan0 config_br0=192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 channel_wlan0=1 mode_wlan0=master essid_wlan0=MyNetwork Here is my hostapd.conf interface=wlan0 bridge=br0 driver=nl80211 ssid=MyNetwork hw_mode=g channel=1 macaddr_acl=0 auth_algs=1 ignore_broadcast_ssid=0 country_code=CA wpa=1 wpa_passphrase=passphrase wpa_key_mgmt=WPA-PSK wpa_pairwise=TKIP rsn_pairwise=CCMP Anyone know how to change my wireless card to master mode and make it so I don't get those error messages? Thanks P.S. I have everything working with madwifi and an older kernel so worst case scenario I stay with that configuration until I get this problem figured out. Hello, do _NOT_ initialize the master mode of your nic with the rc-script. Let hostapd do that. rc-script will fail! So your /etc/conf.d/net would look like this: config_eth0=69.196.152.151 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 69.196.152.255 config_eth1=null config_wlan0=null bridge_br0=eth1 wlan0 config_br0=192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Atheros kernel driver and my wireless access point setup
Jason Carson schrieb: Hey Norman, I tried changing my /etc/conf.d/net to what you suggested but it resulted in the following errors... *Bringing up interface wlan0 * Configuring wireless network for wlan0 * Scanning for access points *no access points found * Failed to configure wireless for wlan0 Then because wlan0 wouldn't start I got a bunch of errors like... * Error: cannot start named as net.wlan0 would not start * Error: cannot start sshd as net.wlan0 would not start * Error: cannot start apache2 as net.wlan0 would not start etc... This is still rc-script output... do not use the rc-script. Do not start it! Your errors would be, because you have to detach these services from wlan0 and let them use the bridge. Here is some output from my box: mimir ~ # rc-update -s -v | grep net local | default nonetwork net.br0 | default net.eth0 | default net.lo | boot netmount | default mimir ~ # ifconfig wlan0 wlan0 Protokoll:Ethernet Hardware Adresse 00:80:48:5e:57:3d inet6 Adresse: fe80::280:48ff:fe5e:573d/64 Gültigkeitsbereich:Verbindung UP BROADCAST RUNNING PROMISC MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:80 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 Kollisionen:0 Sendewarteschlangenlänge:1000 RX bytes:7344 (7.1 KiB) TX bytes:14190 (13.8 KiB) mimir ~ # ls /etc/init.d/net.* /etc/init.d/net.br0 /etc/init.d/net.eth0 /etc/init.d/net.lo As you can see, there is no rc-script on wlan, but it is initialized an running in AP mode. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] What annoys you?
I am annoyed by a little more generous thing lately, which i am afraid isn't fixable by a summer of code. But you wanted to know what annoys me, so here it is. There was a lib update, that broke sancho a while ago. A new version of sancho fixed this. But i had to use this new version from the developers site, because even ~arch package was several versions lower. Some weeks ago the oscar protocol or something was changed and pidgin was not able to login to icq. New version fixed this instantly, but it took a while till this version hit ~arch. Again i had to install a program outside of portage. Gnome 2.26 was released and 2.24 hit portage around that time. I just built me an openbox desktop today. Google and Openbox Hompage show quite a few docks which can be used. None of them is in portage or it is hardmasked. There where two docks available, one segfaulted! I found a great taskbar named tint2, not in portage. I compiled it and it works perfectly. This is what annoys me most lately. And yes, i am planning on reading into ebuild stuff and trying to contribute. regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and Madwifi contradict each other
Grant schrieb: The madwifi/ath5k guys say it should work in 2.6.28 which I'm on. The latest is I'm getting this directly from hostapd: Failed to set interface ath0 to master mode. nl80211 driver initialization failed. rmdir[ctrl_interface]: No such file or directory ELOOP: remaining socket: sock=5 eloop_data=... I'm sure my procedure is correct now, but I don't know why ath0 won't go into master mode. - Grant Hi, i have been, through that lately an it is not that out of the box. Here is what i put together from linux-wireless mailinglist and trial and error: 1. Master mode on ath5k is there, but not activated and not in 2.6.28. Mainly from this thread i got the kernel stuff and settings http://marc.info/?t=12265272074r=1w=2 I use the latest git pull from http://linuxwireless.org/. The AP mode needs still to be activated: --- wireless-testing/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c 2009-02-10 06:11:43.186470883 +0100 +++ wireless-testing/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c.old 2008-11-14 09:36:40.0 +0100 @@ -522,6 +501,7 @@ hw-wiphy-interface_modes = BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_STATION) | BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_ADHOC) | + BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_AP) | BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_MESH_POINT); hw-extra_tx_headroom = 2; Now you have a kernel and a ath5k module capable of master mode. 2. You need ~arch version of hostapd. Stable version did not do the trick for me. 3. I needed to modify the startscripts. I removed the net.wlan0 link completely, as it does not seem to be able to initialize the ap mode, but is loaded automaticaly even when it is not set to boot in a spezific runlevel. So you need hostapd to initialize the wlan-nic. hostapd script wants to start all networkinterfaces with the rc-scripts, so i edited the script, to start my bridge an the wired card only and leave out the wlan-nic. I think this is a little redundant to removing the net.wlan0 script. Sometimes while testing, the interface did not shut down properly and hostapd could not initialize them any more. So i had to set them down manually with iwconfig. After that hostapd could use them again. This is clearly not yet meant to be used in a productive environment, as the devs clearly stated in the postet threads on wireless-linux. Regards, Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and Madwifi contradict each other
Grant schrieb: Hi, i have been, through that lately an it is not that out of the box. Here is what i put together from linux-wireless mailinglist and trial and error: 1. Master mode on ath5k is there, but not activated and not in 2.6.28. Mainly from this thread i got the kernel stuff and settings http://marc.info/?t=12265272074r=1w=2 I use the latest git pull from http://linuxwireless.org/. The AP mode needs still to be activated: --- wireless-testing/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c 2009-02-10 06:11:43.186470883 +0100 +++ wireless-testing/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c.old 2008-11-14 09:36:40.0 +0100 @@ -522,6 +501,7 @@ hw-wiphy-interface_modes = BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_STATION) | BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_ADHOC) | + BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_AP) | BIT(NL80211_IFTYPE_MESH_POINT); hw-extra_tx_headroom = 2; Now you have a kernel and a ath5k module capable of master mode. 2. You need ~arch version of hostapd. Stable version did not do the trick for me. 3. I needed to modify the startscripts. I removed the net.wlan0 link completely, as it does not seem to be able to initialize the ap mode, but is loaded automaticaly even when it is not set to boot in a spezific runlevel. So you need hostapd to initialize the wlan-nic. hostapd script wants to start all networkinterfaces with the rc-scripts, so i edited the script, to start my bridge an the wired card only and leave out the wlan-nic. I think this is a little redundant to removing the net.wlan0 script. Sometimes while testing, the interface did not shut down properly and hostapd could not initialize them any more. So i had to set them down manually with iwconfig. After that hostapd could use them again. This is clearly not yet meant to be used in a productive environment, as the devs clearly stated in the postet threads on wireless-linux. Regards, Norman Thanks a lot Norman. I've got to remember not to ride the bleeding edge. Removing wlan0 from /etc/conf.d/hostapd didn't prevent hostapd from starting it? - Grant Removing wlan0 from /etc/conf.d/hostapd is not what you would want, as you wish hostapd to use wlan0. The init scripts are not able to set up master mode correctly and bring up an error or set up wlan0 interface in a false mode so hostapd can not set it up any more. So i set up my init to completely ignore wlan0 till hostapd handles it. Somehow hot- or coldplug initialized the net.wlan0 script anyway, so i removed it completely. Basicly it is moving over the handling of wlan0 from rc-scripts to hostapd. One thing,you might stumble accross later on. In hostapd.conf provide the wpa key in hex, not in phrase. phrase coused authentication errors for me an for one guy in the thread i talked about earlier. Otherwise the system runs fine and stable now. I hope there will be a less messy init-setting soon, as this functions get stabilized. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and Madwifi contradict each other
Grant schrieb:
Removing wlan0 from /etc/conf.d/hostapd is not what you would want, as you
wish hostapd to use wlan0.
The init scripts are not able to set up master mode correctly and bring up
an error or set up wlan0 interface in a false mode so hostapd can not set it
up any more.
So i set up my init to completely ignore wlan0 till hostapd handles it.
Somehow hot- or coldplug initialized the net.wlan0 script anyway, so i
removed it completely.
Can you be more specific about what you did? Did you just remove the
wlan0 initscript, or did you also make an initscript modification? If
so, could you share your modification?
Sure.
I removed the net.wlan0 script, or better, i never created it.
I modified the init.d/hostapd script, not to depend on all interfaces
but on only those, which i need:
/etc/init.d/hostapd
depend() {
need net.br0
need net.eth0
use logger
}
As i said earlier, this is kind of redundant as it is possible, that
without the script, hostapd would not start that interface. But i can
not tell, i never tested it.
Basicly it is moving over the handling of wlan0 from rc-scripts to hostapd.
That's why I thought removing wlan0 from /etc/conf.d/hostapd would be
appropriate.
- Grant
Damnit, you are right, i should have read the text.
After looking over this setting with a little distance for this thread,
10 days after setting this up and with yout hint, i feel this could be
smoothed up significantly ;-). So thanks for that. I think i will put
some energy in it tomorrow.
Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and Madwifi contradict each other
Grant schrieb: Still no luck for me with master mode, even after editing wireless-testing/drivers/net/wireless/ath5k/base.c. 2.6.28 is supposed to work but I'm wondering if it's not in 2.6.28-hardened or something. I still get Failed to set interface ath0 to master mode from hostapd. - Grant 2.6.28 did not work for me either. Get the wireless-testing kernel as described here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Documentation/git-guide Apply the modification to ath5k/base.c. You will have a 2.6.29-rc kernel with wireless-testing modifications. This one should do the trick. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo and Madwifi contradict each other
Grant schrieb: I'm a step closer in 2.6.28 after applying this patch: --- wireless-testing.orig/net/mac80211/cfg.c 2008-10-28 10:32:35.0 +0200 +++ wireless-testing/net/mac80211/cfg.c 2008-10-28 10:32:40.0 +0200 @@ -26,6 +26,8 @@ #ifdef CONFIG_MAC80211_MESH case NL80211_IFTYPE_MESH_POINT: #endif + case NL80211_IFTYPE_AP: + case NL80211_IFTYPE_AP_VLAN: case NL80211_IFTYPE_WDS: return true; default: The interface will go into master mode now but it errors when trying to set the channel. Are you using an AR5xxx? - Grant Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg NIC (rev 01)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: homemade nas setup
Harry Putnam schrieb: Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org writes: Is it connected into 10/100 or 1000 (gigabit) setup? It is a gigabit setup. NFS read is about 30-34MB/s, writing is considerably slower with 15MB/s. So writing is a bit slow. But as i do not need fast storage i did not investigate. And it must be mentioned, that the whole data is in AES. Being AES should have a pretty dramatic impact right? or is it not decrypted and just bounced from one place to another? Yes AES has some impact. These are the speeds with de/encryption.
Re: [gentoo-user] homemade nas setup
Harry Putnam schrieb: A few I can think of are space and noise.. but having never been around our run a nas setup... I'm not sure if that is really true. Anyway, a few thoughts on what I might be running into doing it myself, or missing compared to storebought. Maybe maintenance considerations.. or whatever, would be welcome. I am running my old AthlonXP system with 2 gig ram, a minimal installation on a small extra disk, 3 disks for data as raid 5 and some crypto, as a home nas. The system is build from spare parts except the data disks and a small sata controller, which i had to buy. The old miditower resides in a lumber-room under a shelf. So noise and space is no problem. Of course you could build such a system in a smaller case. The system only runs nfs, samba and a cups server. I do not use some fancy guis or anything like that. So settings have to be made in the config files manualy, except the cupsd which brings a web gui. Maybe that is something some people would miss. But i do not think a gentoo user would care. As maintainence i do ,beside the regular emerge --sync and updates, a raidcheck every weekend, but that can be cronjobed of course. One point i feel mentionable is scalability. You buy a home nas with two disks and you are stuck with that two disks because the case can not handle more than that. Your do-it-yourself nas can do that. It is a point of personal liking i think. I mean, you buy a home nas click 5 minutes in the gui an you are done. Selfmade nas needs understanding of the system, setting the whole thing up and some configfile changes every now and then. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: homemade nas setup
Harry Putnam schrieb: Norman Rieß nor...@smash-net.org writes: The system only runs nfs, samba and a cups server. I do not use some fancy guis or anything like that. So settings have to be made in the config files manualy, except the cupsd which brings a web gui. Maybe that is something some people would miss. But i do not think a gentoo user would care. Have you timed any thing like write speeds across the network to this box? Is it connected into 10/100 or 1000 (gigabit) setup? It is a gigabit setup. NFS read is about 30-34MB/s, writing is considerably slower with 15MB/s. So writing is a bit slow. But as i do not need fast storage i did not investigate. And it must be mentioned, that the whole data is in AES. I use this share like a local harddisk. There is nothing like Oh, this is on remote storage, i will do random thing differently. I do everything i do on a local disk, and i did not find anything that would not work due to lack of performance. Admitted i do not do much performancecritical stuff.
Re: [gentoo-user] Network printing
Peter Humphrey schrieb: On Monday 12 January 2009 20:12:16 Norman Rieß wrote: So here is the screenshot. http://www.smash-net.org/bilder/cups.png Notice: loki is the client and asgard is the server connected to the printer. The upper left shell shows the configuration cupsd.conf on the _server_. You see the Allow statements in the Location-tags. These statements configure which IP's shall be allowed to print and browse the configuration-webpage. In the browser you see the webpage on the server. I am sorry it is in german, but i guess you will get the point. You see the printer connected and configured there. That is all on the serverside. Bottom left you see a cat of the client.conf with its only statement, the cupsserver. You do _not_ configure printers here! You see the lpstat sees the printer on the server. And you see the gedit printingdialog sees the printer. Thanks. That's exactly what I have. Do you have ldap in your print server's cups USE flags? Or gnutls? These are my flags: USE=-X -gtk -gtk2 -qt3 -qt4 -gnome -kde unicode nls samba mmx sse 3dnow -mysql USE=3dnow acl apache2 berkdb bzip2 cli cracklib crypt cups dri fortran gdbm gpm iconv ipv6 isdnlog ldap mailwrapper midi mmx mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly openmp pam pcre perl pppd python readline reflection samba session snmp spl sse ssl sysfs tcpd truetype unicode x86 xml xorg zlib package.use net-print/cups jpeg nls pam png ppds ssl tiff X
Re: [gentoo-user] Network printing
Peter Humphrey schrieb: Why two statements, with duplicate elements? The first line are the useflags from make.conf. Second are the userflags from emerge --info, so make.conf + profileflags. package.use net-print/cups jpeg nls pam png ppds ssl tiff X So you do have ldap specified. I'll try recompiling cups with ldap and see what that does. Thanks. Yes, but i do not use ldap in my network.
Re: [gentoo-user] Network printing
Peter Humphrey schrieb: Are you telling me that the printers the server knows of should appear in the client's cups web page automatically? That certainly doesn't happen, which is why I've been trying to tell the client where to find its printers. No the webpage only runs on the server which is connected to the printers. On that page, you should be able to see all printers connected to that server. If not, then you have to add them. The only thing you have to tell the clients is the name of your server the printers are connected to in the client.conf file. The applications on the client should see all printers on the server automatically then. The cupsd doesn't even need to be started on the clients. This looks important (trimming time date etc.): cupsdAcceptClient: 8 from 192.168.2.6:631 (IPv4) cupsdReadClient: 8 POST / HTTP/1.1 cupsdAuthorize: No authentication data provided. cupsdSendError: 8 code=403 (Forbidden) cupsdCloseClient: 8 (The log is taken from the server after running lpstat -a on the client; the IPv4 address shown is the client.) What kind of authentication data does that mean? User ID confirmation? SSH keys? As far as I know I haven't done anything particular to SSH or SSL. The Gentoo printing guide doesn't mention gnutls or ldap, so I haven't set them up, or even installed them. I assume the printers are not configured correctly on the server. When i am home from work i will be able to provide some screenshots to make things clearer. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Network printing
Norman Rieß schrieb: When i am home from work i will be able to provide some screenshots to make things clearer. Regards Norman So here is the screenshot. http://www.smash-net.org/bilder/cups.png Notice: loki is the client and asgard is the server connected to the printer. The upper left shell shows the configuration cupsd.conf on the _server_. You see the Allow statements in the Location-tags. These statements configure which IP's shall be allowed to print and browse the configuration-webpage. In the browser you see the webpage on the server. I am sorry it is in german, but i guess you will get the point. You see the printer connected and configured there. That is all on the serverside. Bottom left you see a cat of the client.conf with its only statement, the cupsserver. You do _not_ configure printers here! You see the lpstat sees the printer on the server. And you see the gedit printingdialog sees the printer. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Network printing
Peter Humphrey schrieb: Of course it should. It does not. I simply cannot find the necessary invocations and USE flags etc. No matter what I try I cannot get printing to work over the network. I always get a succession of success messages from cups, followed by printer does not exist when I try to print a test page. That's a pretty strange definition of success in anybody's book. Even a straightforward postscript laser cannot be made to work now. I'm going to give it up altogether as a lost cause. Every machine on the network will have to have the printers set up locally, and be carried to where the printers are whenever a print job is needed. This is one giant black mark for Linux, the ultimate networking OS. I've been using Linux on-and-off for about 15 years, but I'm seriously considering the future of it in this house. Thanks for trying to help. I read your posts and it sound to me, you try to connect to the printers instead of your spoolserver. You say you configured both printers on one server with CUPS-Webpage. I assume this works and you can print a testpage with the Webpage. Then you wrote ServerName yourserver in /etc/cups/client.conf . You can now choose both printers in the applicationspecific printmenus, right? If this is the case and it still does not work, please provide some logentries. As one who uses linux for 15 years you should know that cups != linux. Regards Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?
Grant schrieb: I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating AMD in performance tests. Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower. What do you guys think? - Grant Well the experience of a desktop or an application depends on more than just the processor. Nearly every part of a computer does its part. And then you have the software, what software you use, how it is build, what reqirements this software has on other software and hardware and so on. Does it uses the FPU or is it heavy on the ALU. How much IO is used and how much can the system provide. But if you believe the average hardwaremagazine, intel is a step ahead right now. Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?
Florian Philipp schrieb: On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 10:07 -0700, Grant wrote: I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating AMD in performance tests. Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower. What do you guys think? - Grant I work at the German Aerospace Center (basically the German NASA). We've been using AMD CPUs for a long time on our clusters and workstations because they were not only cheaper but also faster on floating point operations whereas Intel was faster on integer operations. Now we are switching to Intel because AMD lost this advantage and has problems delivering the ordered number of CPUs. I personally stick with AMD because they have a factory in Germany and I don't want Intel to rule the market as they've done before AMD came up with the Athlon XP. I can confirm that. The German Weather Service uses AMD CPU's on the servers for visualising weathercharts due to better FPU performance. The new bunch of servers however are intel systems. Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD vs. Intel on Gentoo?
Grant schrieb: I had become an AMD guy, but I think I'm hearing that Intel is beating AMD in performance tests. Plus my AMD64 X2 desktop should be much faster than my Intel laptop but is actually slower. What do you guys think? - Grant Well the experience of a desktop or an application depends on more than just the processor. Nearly every part of a computer does its part. And then you have the software, what software you use, how it is build, what reqirements this software has on other software and hardware and so on. Does it uses the FPU or is it heavy on the ALU. How much IO is used and how much can the system provide. But if you believe the average hardwaremagazine, intel is a step ahead right now. Norman When Intel finally implements HyperTransport (I think it's planned for the next generation), AMD will loose their last bastion performance wise ... what a pity. It is a pity. When did AMD's overall advantage disappear? - Grant With the arrival of the Core CPU's. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vesa-tng not working with kernel 2.6.24
John covici schrieb: Hi. I compiled gentoo-sources 2.6.24-r2 -- however the vesa-tng seemed to disappear -- its in the .config, but for some reason I am getting a console of 25x80. Now I have the default mode set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] which works fine with the 2.6.21 kernel, but not the 2.6.24 one. What is strange is that I can't find the vesatng in the .config, but if I go into make menuconfig its there, so can someone explain why things are not working properly for 2.6.24? Thanks. vesa-tng was replaced by uvesafb. http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/ Cheers... -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
Michael Schmarck schrieb: · Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Schmarck schrieb: · Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide this sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look incomplete. Well, but providing outdated (ie. non-usable for new systems) install medium is also very bad. And if the installer doesn't work (satisfactory), then that gives an even worse impression. Michael Schmarck I agree. And i don't think that this is contradicting my statement, does it? Depends. You're saying, that Gentoo might look to be incomplete, if it were to rely on other distributions (Live CDs). I'm saying, that it currently already looks to be incomplete, despite there being a install CD - a CD, which is outdated. Michael Schmarck Still no complaints about your opinion from my side ;-). In short. An outdated InstallCD is bad and no InstallCD at all is bad, too.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Saturday 12 January 2008, Qian Qiao wrote: I can understand why you guys think we are so compelled to have a Gentoo LiveCD, because every other OS does, and to be honest, that is exactly the reason that stops you guys thinking out of the box, in what way is being able to install Gentoo from any LiveCD/distro a bad thing? In everyway it should be considered one of Gentoo's strengths? Joe, You have hit the nail on the head. The users around here pushing the idea to have an install CD just do not get it, and are probably *not*able* to think out the box. They can comprehend is Gentoo = Gentoo install CD, precisely because virtually every other OS does it this way. And they have been indoctrinated to think this is the only way it can work, or they have drunk the PR department Kool-Aid or suffer from Red Hat Inc.'s major disease - Not Invented Here syndrome. I've had hundreds of people pass through my Linux sysadmin courses, and guess which concept they have most trouble grasping? It's not how initrd works, Xen, or LVM (the usual assumed suspects), it's how do you manage to use an Ubuntu LiveCD to fix a broken Red Hat system? Or how did I install Red Hat using Ubuntu as a bootstrap system (possible, but waay more trouble than it's worth) Such people should probably be running Ubuntu or a binary distro as they don't fit the profile of gentoo's target audience. Before anyone flames me to oblivion for insulting them, it's not an insult. I just recognize that you want to buy a high performance passenger car, and gentoo sells an experimental plane in kit form. I have installed Gentoo in many ways, the old UniversalCD, the LiveCD, others Distros LiveCD's, from a working Gentooinstallation to a usb-connected drive which was transferred to boot in a old laptop and so on. But i still think a Gentoo-Install-CD/DVD is a good thing. So your statement The users around here pushing the idea to have an install CD just do not get it, and are probably *not*able* to think out the box. is clearly not bulletproof. Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
b.n. schrieb: Norman Rieß ha scritto: I have installed Gentoo in many ways, the old UniversalCD, the LiveCD, others Distros LiveCD's, from a working Gentooinstallation to a usb-connected drive which was transferred to boot in a old laptop and so on. But i still think a Gentoo-Install-CD/DVD is a good thing. Any practical reason for that? m. No, only psychological, political, philosophical ones. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Is GWN dead?
Michael Schmarck schrieb: · Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Still no complaints about your opinion from my side ;-). *G* In short. An outdated InstallCD is bad and no InstallCD at all is bad, too. I agree that an outdated Install CD is bad. But I disagree, that no Install CD at all is bad. I think it's not bad. Michael Schmarck Ok, i'm fine with that.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
Alan McKinnon schrieb: On Sunday 13 January 2008, Norman Rieß wrote: I have installed Gentoo in many ways, the old UniversalCD, the LiveCD, others Distros LiveCD's, from a working Gentooinstallation to a usb-connected drive which was transferred to boot in a old laptop and so on. But i still think a Gentoo-Install-CD/DVD is a good thing. So your statement The users around here pushing the idea to have an install CD just do not get it, and are probably *not*able* to think out the box. is clearly not bulletproof. You miss my point. The thread is about users insisting that Gentoo must have an installer because how else would one install Gentoo? which is patently not true. My comment was to highlight that people who don't see the truth of that probably can't think out the box. I didn't pull this comment out my ass either, it's based on several hundred observations of me personally, in face-to-face situations, explaining to people how a typical Linux install process works and observing how many get it and how many don't. Please don't respond to my posts in isolation, treating them as 10 second sound bites. They are in a thread, and part of a larger context. If you want a Gentoo installer then by all means go ahead and make one. Or you can pay someone to make one for you. That is how FLOSS works after all. But is not justifiable to make the creation of such an installer a top-priority for Gentoo, as such a thing ALREADY EXISTS. It just doesn't have a Gentoo G logo on it. I think we have a different understandig about this thread. Norman
Re: [gentoo-user] Is GWN dead?
Galevsky schrieb: On Jan 11, 2008 10:38 AM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 11. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Shaochun Wang: Currently, Gentoo has not updated its installation CD for a long time! They don't need to. One week ago I used a GRML cd to install a new Gentoo system. On Jan 11, 2008 10:22 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you think gentoo *needs* to update it's install CD? Because Gentoo is a distro, and as a distro, it should have a way to be installed on a computer... I upgraded my hardware recently and my previous gentoo distro was not able to boot (ICH9 + JMicron controller) because no SATA HD was recognized with my old 2.6.18 kernel the only way to boot was livecd with right kernel/modules. But Gentoo was not able to provide a *so basic feature*, the one that let me boot on my computer and you see no needs with that ? Well, if Gentoo is not able to make my computer booting, it is sure that I have no need to get maintained portage nor any one of the ebuilds... [..] Gal' Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide this sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look incomplete. MHO Norman -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is GWN dead?
Michael Schmarck schrieb: · Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Right, basicly telling people You have to depend on / use other distros to install our OS, cause we are not able to / don´t have time to provide this sounds a little fishy. It makes Gentoo look incomplete. Well, but providing outdated (ie. non-usable for new systems) install medium is also very bad. And if the installer doesn't work (satisfactory), then that gives an even worse impression. Michael Schmarck I agree. And i don't think that this is contradicting my statement, does it? Norman
[gentoo-user] Silicon Image 3112 Raid Controller on Kernel 2.6.22 and 2.6.23 not working.
Hi, i am using a Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) in a non-RAID configuration. Simply an an SATA-Controller so to speak. This worked fine ever since. But with the release of kernel 2.6.22 the controller stopped working. Here is a picture of the errormessage when the kernel loads. http://www.smash-net.org/kernel2.6.23/kernel_sil_err.jpg I googled around and found, that quite a few people had problems with SIL-Controllers. But none but one had this particular problem. This guy apparently told a kernel developer about this, who said he would take a look at it. So i waited till 3.6.23, but the problem still persists. Here is my kernel-config for 2.6.23: http://www.smash-net.org/kernel2.6.23/config-kernel-2.6.23 Maybe someone on this list has a fresh idea. Regards Norman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silicon Image 3112 Raid Controller on Kernel 2.6.22 and 2.6.23 not working.
David Relson schrieb: Hello Norman, I, too, have one of their controllers (identified by lspci as RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller (rev 02). It works ... kind of ... I bought it because my new AMD64 mobo has 1 ATA connector and I have 2 ATA hard drives and a SONY DVD RW DRU-510A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive. When I tried to boot a LiveCD from the SONY, the kernel was read then reported can't find cdrom device. Not good! To upgrade to 64-bit gentoo, I had to recable my box so that my primary HD and the SONY were attached to the mobo. My rating of the SII card? OK -- sort of. Regards, David Hello, problem is, that my mobo has no other SATA Ports. Standard-ATA ports of the Motherboard is PATA. And i sort of can not blame the controller because the 2.6.20 kernel works perfectly. (As this post proofs :-)). Regards, Norman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Silicon Image 3112 Raid Controller on Kernel 2.6.22 and 2.6.23 not working.
Mark Shields schrieb:
I have this same chipset and run two SATA drives in a RAID 1
(mirrored) config, but I'm running hardened-2.6.20-r6. I will note I
have had no problems using the kernel drivers and have been using the
hardened kernel since 2.6.14; before that this was just a system using
the gentoo-sources, not sure how far that dates ('05-ish). I'll
emerge the latest stable hardened (2.6.22-r8) and test it, and check
back with you guys. I was thinking about upgrading anyways.
I looked at your config and noticed:
CONFIG_SATA_SIL24=y
You don't need this. It probably isn't causing the problem, but I
would disable it anyways.
Also disable
CONFIG_SATA_VIA=y
too.
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- Mark Shields
You will need to use at least kernel 2.6.22 to have this effect (if you
have it at all).
I tried some different kernelsettings, so there could be some things
active, which are not really necessary.
Thank you for trying. I am looking forward to your results.
Norman
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Re: [gentoo-user] insatiable revdev-rebuild SOLVED
Allan Gottlieb schrieb:
At Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:31:57 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thursday 04 October 2007 05:37:19 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
An emerge (of openssl, I believe, but am not sure) a few days ago
triggered a request for me to run
# revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.7
# revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.7
I have done so. The revdep-rebuild for libssl found nothing, but the
one for libcrypto rebuilt openssl. However rerunning the command
again again rebuilt openssh. A msg had explained that this is
possible but didn't suggest that the request would never end. I have
run the revdep-rebuild for libcrypto 4 times and it keeps rebuilding
openssl
What should I do to fix this problem?
It also told you to remove lib{crypto,ssl}.so.0.9.7 after running those
revdep-rebuild commands. revdep-rebuild finds that libssl.so.0.0.7 links
against libcrypto.so.0.9.7 and the hack (preserve_old_lib from eutils.eclass)
that the openssl ebuild uses to preserve those libraries until you've done
this makes it look like they belong to the new version of openssl (even
though they really don't)..
As always Bo's reply solved the problem completely. I apologize for
missing the remove commands. I shall read the instructions more
carefully in the future.
thank for the help.
allan gottlieb
There was no remove command
WARN: postinst
Old versions of installed libraries were detected on your system.
In order to avoid breaking packages that depend on these old libs,
the libraries are not being removed. You need to run revdep-rebuild
in order to remove these old dependencies. If you do not have this
helper program, simply emerge the 'gentoolkit' package.
# revdep-rebuild --library libcrypto.so.0.9.7
# revdep-rebuild --library libssl.so.0.9.7
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Re: [gentoo-user] freenx / nxclient / nxserver etc.. [experiences]
I couldn´ t get freenx to work either. After trying freenx for a day or two without any progress, i installed nxserver-freeedition, which worked from the start. This mail is living proof ;-). Bye Norman Ow Mun Heng schrieb: I just tried to installed freenx(0.7) nx(3.0) and it's a bit frustrating because it doesn't seem to be working well. eg: Sometimes I can connect, sometimes I can't. (timeout) then when I can connect, sometimes I get my gnome-desktop, sometimes not. When I log-out, (suspend) and I try to log in back using the same session, I can't. Should I just try the nxserver-freeedidition instead? What are your experiences? Seems like everything that google returns are all between 1 to 2 years ago details. Thanks -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no shorewall
Jorge Almeida schrieb: Anybody managed to get shorewall working with gentoo-sources 2.6.22-r5? I upgraded from 2.6.20, and there went the firewall. I used oldconfig just to see what's new, then make clean, then make menuconfig (starting with the saved config file from kernel 2.6.20). Shorewall is version 3.2.9. I already changed a few things in case some module would be missing due to name change. I'm out of ideas. In case someone can provide some suggestion, here comes the output of shorewall start and the relevant part of .config. I had similar problems. I solved them with the kernelsettings here: http://www.shorewall.net/3.0/kernel.htm#v2.6.20 which ist pretty much activating everything :-). So i don´t really know what did the trick. But i did not compile this as moduls. Perhaps this is a little wastefull, but it worked. Norman -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] #Gentoo
Steen Eugen Poulsen schrieb: Steen Eugen Poulsen skrev: Every day for around a hour the same op comes around and their is always trouble for some reason in that short period. The channel works perfectly the other 23 hours a day... So one has to wonder if the op is creating the problems... Things like kicking someone reading impaired, because they are a bit slow... Or the latest gem using kicks to argue with other ops. As the worst examples lately. Could we please re-educate the #Gentoo ops and get them to have a bit more professionalism and tact or maybe consider that not everyone has the skills to be a good community representative. I got banned from the channel for posting this to the list... Oh well, it hurts the Gentoo community more than me, I was simply doing my part to help out people, farewell and I'm sorry I can't be there to help out anymore, but thats just the way things work around here at the moment. Sad to hear things like that. If you still want to help, you could use the #gentoo channels on the other big IRC-Networks. They are mostly not so crowded than the official channel, but a hundred people are in some of them though. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] couple of newbie questions about emerge
Daniel Iliev schrieb: 2) yes, emerge -uD world keeps your system up-todate emerge -uDN world also takes care of newly added or removed USE-flags. Norman -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Has Linux jumped the Shark?
Jeff Rollin schrieb: Their argument seemed to be that because GNOME is running into problems and because KDE is behind schedule, the Linux desktop is dead. How true is this? Jeff Like uh, we cannot finish this tiny feature here in 3 days as planned, so let us give up the whole project? :-) And Linux is more popular than ever and gaining users (correct me if i am wrong). Developement on Gnome and KDE is going on.. So i do not see how they could be dead. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome Power Manager Message (a little OT)
Guys guess what. As i have updated my Gnome to 2.16 now, the new shiny Power Manager tells me, that my laptop runs on battery after i pull the plug... Can you believe that?? If i pull the plug on my computer... it runs on battery. incredible!! And it tells me EVERY time i pull the plug, that i pulled the plug! I can not imagine what i would have done without that information... i might have forgotten it one time, when i pull the plug, that i pulled the plug. Ok serious... how can i switch this insane little window off, that does tell me, what i allready know and intended to do. Thanks Norman -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome Power Manager Message (a little OT)
Allan Gottlieb schrieb: At Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:49:14 +0100 Norman Rieß [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys guess what. As i have updated my Gnome to 2.16 now, the new shiny Power Manager tells me, that my laptop runs on battery after i pull the plug... Can you believe that?? If i pull the plug on my computer... it runs on battery. incredible!! And it tells me EVERY time i pull the plug, that i pulled the plug! I can not imagine what i would have done without that information... i might have forgotten it one time, when i pull the plug, that i pulled the plug. Assuming this is the one on the panel, right click on the icon and then left click on remove. allan No it´s not. It is the one, that if you delete it from the autostart in the sessionmanager, it writes itself back in it, so it starts again. What you mean is the old power-status-icon. Now there is a power manager integrated in gnome. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
