Re: [gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

2013-12-14 Thread wraeth
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On 14/12/13 12:10, walt wrote:
 I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a 
 virtualbox gentoo-guest machine.  I missed a very important gnome3 feature
 by doing it that way :(
 
 The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes the
 favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the left
 upper corner of the screen.  Who knew?
 
 Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse 
 pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop without
 notifying the guest machine, apparently.
 
 Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra 
 mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long.  That one extra 
 mouse-click was a major gnome3 bug for me, but now it's just a virtual 
 bug :)
 
 For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd 
 suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many hours
 of bewilderment:
 
 First, the settings center extension, which exposes several important 
 sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find.
 
 Second, the system-monitor extension, which replaces the multiload 
 gnome-panel applet that I can't live without.  The gnome extension website
 offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now using is the
 one written by 'darkxst'.  So happy :)
 
 I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool' packages
 from gnome-extra.  They are not installed by default when emerging 'gnome',
 but I couldn't use gnome without them.
 
 Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can.
 
 
 

Just for reference, I don't think the hot-corner issue a bug but a result of
how it operates.

If i'm not mistaken, the hot corner has to be activated by the mouse cursor
actually hitting the corner.  With the typical way the virtual machine works,
with the mouse not actually 'entering' the environment, it's almost impossible
to hit the corner properly as it transitions seamlessly between the guest and
the host.

Two ways to address this are to use the virtual machine in fullscreen mode
(meaning that the corner really is the corner) or to have the virtual machine
fully capture the mouse (requiring it to be released by use of the 'host' key
(generally Right-CTRL).

If you can, give it a try and let me know if it works :)

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wraeth
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[gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

2013-12-13 Thread walt
I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a
virtualbox gentoo-guest machine.  I missed a very important gnome3
feature by doing it that way :(

The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes
the favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the
left upper corner of the screen.  Who knew?

Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse
pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop
without notifying the guest machine, apparently.

Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra
mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long.  That one extra
mouse-click was a major gnome3 bug for me, but now it's just a virtual
bug :)

For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd
suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many
hours of bewilderment:

First, the settings center extension, which exposes several important
sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find.

Second, the system-monitor extension, which replaces the multiload
gnome-panel applet that I can't live without.  The gnome extension
website offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now
using is the one written by 'darkxst'.  So happy :)

I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool'
packages from gnome-extra.  They are not installed by default when
emerging 'gnome', but I couldn't use gnome without them.

Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can.




Re: [gentoo-user] [gnome3 stable] Not as bad as I expected

2013-12-13 Thread Alecks Gates
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 7:10 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been preparing for gnome3 for many months by running it in a
 virtualbox gentoo-guest machine.  I missed a very important gnome3
 feature by doing it that way :(

 The gnome-shell desktop has a 'gestures-based' feature, which exposes
 the favorites menu if you move the mouse pointer *very* quickly to the
 left upper corner of the screen.  Who knew?

 Well, I didn't know until yesterday because virtualbox allows the mouse
 pointer to slide right off of the guest window onto my real desktop
 without notifying the guest machine, apparently.

 Anyway, the active-left-upper-corner feature saves me one annoying extra
 mouse-click when launching the apps I use all day long.  That one extra
 mouse-click was a major gnome3 bug for me, but now it's just a virtual
 bug :)

There's an even faster way -- something I couldn't live without and
possibly the only thing that makes Unity/Gnome3/Windows 8 usable to
me:  Press the super key (the Windows key on my keyboard by default,
but it's configurable).  I *hate* having to use my mouse so much to
access programs and in *all three* of these interfaces I can avoid the
mouse much more with the same shortcut.  Check out the Gnome Shell
cheat sheet[0] if you haven't already.


 For us old gnome2 farts who don't know where to begin with gnome3, I'd
 suggest installing two gnome-shell extensions that may save you many
 hours of bewilderment:

 First, the settings center extension, which exposes several important
 sub-menus that are otherwise nearly impossible to find.

 Second, the system-monitor extension, which replaces the multiload
 gnome-panel applet that I can't live without.  The gnome extension
 website offers several 'system-monitor' applets, but the one I'm now
 using is the one written by 'darkxst'.  So happy :)

 I strongly suggest emerging the 'alacarte' and 'gnome-tweak-tool'
 packages from gnome-extra.  They are not installed by default when
 emerging 'gnome', but I couldn't use gnome without them.

 Happy to answer any gnome3 questions if I can.



[0] https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

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Alecks Gates