Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop internal speakers no longer working after recent updates
Am Dienstag, 31. August 2021, 19:24:15 CEST schrieb Michael:
> On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 12:08:04 BST Alexander Puchmayr wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 31. August 2021, 00:18:43 CEST schrieb Michael:
> > > If the alsa drivers are not compiled as modules, the above file would
> > > not
> > > have any effect. Anyway, let's try this in /etc/asound.conf:
> > >
> > > defaults.pcm.card 1
> > > defaults.pcm.device 0
> > > defaults.ctl.card 1
> > >
> > > On a reboot your Generic_1 analogue card should be available and
> > > recognised
> > > as the default audio device. You may need to unmute it, via pactl or
> > > kmix.
> >
> > Sorry, didn't change anything.
> >
> > I doubt that the problem is wrong default settings of alsa.
> >
> > I run pulseaudio -vvv and the output was interesting:
> >
> > Pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.1/sound/card0
> > and
> > pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.6/sound/card1
> >
> > Where the latter one is the one that is not used by pulseaudio.
> >
> > Both report "UCM available for card HD-Audio Generic"
> > Note: the card name "HD-Audio Generic" is identical, and this is reported
> > by alsa-libs, as far as I could see from the code.
>
> Your *card* names according to your 'aplay -l' output are/were:
>
> card 0: Generic
> card 1: Generic_1
> card 3: Headset
>
> You can re-check this with:
>
> aplay -l | awk -F \: '/,/{print $2}' | awk '{print $1}' | uniq
>
>
> Another way to discover all card name(s) including unused cards is by the
> output of:
>
> cat /sys/class/sound/card*/id
>
> The alsa-ucm function involves creating use case alsa mixer profiles,
> similar to pulseaudio profiles and will work even without pulseaudio
> running. If a UCM configuration file exists for a card, then pulseaudio
> will ignore built-in profiles and will generate a profile based on the UCM
> config file.
>
> Take a look at:
>
> /usr/share/alsa/ucm2/README.md
>
> and for various mixer profiles look under /usr/share/alsa/ucm2/
>
> However, my usage of pulseaudio has been cursory and don't know much about
> its auto-configuration. In any case, I suspect the alsa-ucm output is only
> relevant in highlighting the common codec name, as you confirm below.
>
> > [...]
> >
> > Alsa-info.sh reveals further info:
> > !!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
> > !!-
> >
> > 0 [Generic]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
> >
> > HD-Audio Generic at 0xfd3c8000 irq 91
> >
> > 1 [Generic_1 ]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
> >
> > HD-Audio Generic at 0xfd3c irq 92
> >
> > 2 [acp]: acp - acp
> >
> > acp
> >
> > To me it looks like as if pulseaudio is quering card0, getting the name
> > "HD- Audio Generic", finding the HDMI channels; then it tries to read
> > card1, gets also "HD-Audio Generic" as name and hence the same channels
> > as for card0.
> >
> > I have no idea how to fix this.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Alex
>
> As I understand it, "HD-Audio" is the kernel driver (CONFIG_SND_HDA=m) and
> "Generic" is the generic codec parser (CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=m) used by the
> snd-hda-intel module (CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m) - unless a specific model
> codec is (also) configured for a card, e.g. in my case I have
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=m
>
> If in your recent system update/upgrade you did not change your kernel, or
> the available options of any audio modules under /etc/modprobe.d/ then the
> drivers were always configured so and therefore the problem you experience
> now is unlikely to be caused by the generic codec parser.
>
> Someone more knowledgeable in pulseaudio should chime in, assuming this
> problem is being caused by pulseaudio. :-/
I just downgraded to alsa-utils and alsa-tools 1.2.3, and the problem
disappeared. I will keep this combination for a while until the next update.
However, I'm not sure whether this is an alsa problem or a pulseaudio problem.
Thanks for your help
Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop internal speakers no longer working after recent updates
On Tuesday, 31 August 2021 12:08:04 BST Alexander Puchmayr wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 31. August 2021, 00:18:43 CEST schrieb Michael:
> > If the alsa drivers are not compiled as modules, the above file would not
> > have any effect. Anyway, let's try this in /etc/asound.conf:
> >
> > defaults.pcm.card 1
> > defaults.pcm.device 0
> > defaults.ctl.card 1
> >
> > On a reboot your Generic_1 analogue card should be available and
> > recognised
> > as the default audio device. You may need to unmute it, via pactl or
> > kmix.
>
> Sorry, didn't change anything.
>
> I doubt that the problem is wrong default settings of alsa.
>
> I run pulseaudio -vvv and the output was interesting:
>
> Pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.1/sound/card0
> and
> pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.6/sound/card1
>
> Where the latter one is the one that is not used by pulseaudio.
>
> Both report "UCM available for card HD-Audio Generic"
> Note: the card name "HD-Audio Generic" is identical, and this is reported by
> alsa-libs, as far as I could see from the code.
Your *card* names according to your 'aplay -l' output are/were:
card 0: Generic
card 1: Generic_1
card 3: Headset
You can re-check this with:
aplay -l | awk -F \: '/,/{print $2}' | awk '{print $1}' | uniq
Another way to discover all card name(s) including unused cards is by the
output of:
cat /sys/class/sound/card*/id
The alsa-ucm function involves creating use case alsa mixer profiles, similar
to pulseaudio profiles and will work even without pulseaudio running. If a
UCM configuration file exists for a card, then pulseaudio will ignore built-in
profiles and will generate a profile based on the UCM config file.
Take a look at:
/usr/share/alsa/ucm2/README.md
and for various mixer profiles look under /usr/share/alsa/ucm2/
However, my usage of pulseaudio has been cursory and don't know much about
its auto-configuration. In any case, I suspect the alsa-ucm output is only
relevant in highlighting the common codec name, as you confirm below.
> [...]
>
> Alsa-info.sh reveals further info:
> !!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
> !!-
>
> 0 [Generic]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
> HD-Audio Generic at 0xfd3c8000 irq 91
> 1 [Generic_1 ]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
> HD-Audio Generic at 0xfd3c irq 92
> 2 [acp]: acp - acp
> acp
>
> To me it looks like as if pulseaudio is quering card0, getting the name "HD-
> Audio Generic", finding the HDMI channels; then it tries to read card1,
> gets also "HD-Audio Generic" as name and hence the same channels as for
> card0.
>
> I have no idea how to fix this.
>
> Cheers
> Alex
As I understand it, "HD-Audio" is the kernel driver (CONFIG_SND_HDA=m) and
"Generic" is the generic codec parser (CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=m) used by the
snd-hda-intel module (CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m) - unless a specific model codec
is (also) configured for a card, e.g. in my case I have
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT=m
If in your recent system update/upgrade you did not change your kernel, or the
available options of any audio modules under /etc/modprobe.d/ then the drivers
were always configured so and therefore the problem you experience now is
unlikely to be caused by the generic codec parser.
Someone more knowledgeable in pulseaudio should chime in, assuming this
problem is being caused by pulseaudio. :-/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop internal speakers no longer working after recent updates
Am Dienstag, 31. August 2021, 00:18:43 CEST schrieb Michael: > If the alsa drivers are not compiled as modules, the above file would not > have any effect. Anyway, let's try this in /etc/asound.conf: > > defaults.pcm.card 1 > defaults.pcm.device 0 > defaults.ctl.card 1 > > On a reboot your Generic_1 analogue card should be available and recognised > as the default audio device. You may need to unmute it, via pactl or kmix. Sorry, didn't change anything. I doubt that the problem is wrong default settings of alsa. I run pulseaudio -vvv and the output was interesting: Pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.1/sound/card0 and pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.6/sound/card1 Where the latter one is the one that is not used by pulseaudio. Both report "UCM available for card HD-Audio Generic" Note: the card name "HD-Audio Generic" is identical, and this is reported by alsa-libs, as far as I could see from the code. Then it finds HDMI1-3 for both cards. *** card0 *** [...] D: [pulseaudio] module-udev-detect.c: /devices/ pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.1/sound/card0 is busy: no D: [pulseaudio] module-udev-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-card with arguments 'device_id="0" name="pci-_07_00.1" card_name="alsa_card.pci-_07_00.1" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes use_ucm=yes avoid_resampling=no card_properties="module- udev-detect.discovered=1"' D: [pulseaudio] reserve-wrap.c: Unable to contact D-Bus session bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 I: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM available for card HD-Audio Generic I: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Set UCM verb to HiFi D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got TQ for verb HiFi: HiFi D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPCM for device HDMI3: hw:Generic,8 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPriority for device HDMI3: 1300 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got JackControl for device HDMI3: HDMI/DP,pcm=8 Jack W: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM file does not specify 'PlaybackChannels' or 'CaptureChannels'for device HDMI3, assuming stereo duplex. D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _conflictingdevs for device HDMI3 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _supporteddevs for device HDMI3 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPCM for device HDMI2: hw:Generic,7 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPriority for device HDMI2: 1200 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got JackControl for device HDMI2: HDMI/DP,pcm=7 Jack W: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM file does not specify 'PlaybackChannels' or 'CaptureChannels'for device HDMI2, assuming stereo duplex. D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _conflictingdevs for device HDMI2 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _supporteddevs for device HDMI2 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPCM for device HDMI1: hw:Generic,3 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPriority for device HDMI1: 1100 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got JackControl for device HDMI1: HDMI/DP,pcm=3 Jack W: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM file does not specify 'PlaybackChannels' or 'CaptureChannels'for device HDMI1, assuming stereo duplex. D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _conflictingdevs for device HDMI1 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _supporteddevs for device HDMI1 [...] *** card1 *** (the one that is ignored by pulseaudio) [...] D: [pulseaudio] module-udev-detect.c: /devices/ pci:00/:00:08.1/:07:00.6/sound/card1 is busy: no D: [pulseaudio] module-udev-detect.c: Loading module-alsa-card with arguments 'device_id="1" name="pci-_07_00.6" card_name="alsa_card.pci-_07_00.6" namereg_fail=false tsched=yes fixed_latency_range=no ignore_dB=no deferred_volume=yes use_ucm=yes avoid_resampling=no card_properties="module- udev-detect.discovered=1"' D: [pulseaudio] reserve-wrap.c: Unable to contact D-Bus session bus: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NotSupported: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a $DISPLAY for X11 I: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM available for card HD-Audio Generic I: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Set UCM verb to HiFi D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got TQ for verb HiFi: HiFi D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPCM for device HDMI3: hw:Generic,8 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPriority for device HDMI3: 1300 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got JackControl for device HDMI3: HDMI/DP,pcm=8 Jack W: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM file does not specify 'PlaybackChannels' or 'CaptureChannels'for device HDMI3, assuming stereo duplex. D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _conflictingdevs for device HDMI3 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: No _supporteddevs for device HDMI3 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPCM for device HDMI2: hw:Generic,7 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got PlaybackPriority for device HDMI2: 1200 D: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: Got JackControl for device HDMI2: HDMI/DP,pcm=7 Jack W: [pulseaudio] alsa-ucm.c: UCM file does not specify 'PlaybackChannels' or 'CaptureChannels'for device HDMI2, assuming stereo duplex. D: [pulseaudio]
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop internal speakers no longer working after recent updates
On Monday, 30 August 2021 21:03:02 BST Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > Am Montag, 30. August 2021, 13:30:03 CEST schrieb Michael: > > There was a recent move to pipewire which could have jumbled audio devices > > around for you - but I am not familiar with how pipewire works, or why it > > would have caused this problem. > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire > > I did not install pipewire, so we can exclude this. Cool, this makes it simpler, at least for me. :-) > Here is output of aplay -l: > List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices > card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] > Subdevices: 0/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] > Subdevices: 0/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2] > Subdevices: 0/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC257 Analog [ALC257 > Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 3: Headset [Logitech USB Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] > Subdevices: 0/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 OK, you need to set card 1, device 0 as default. > I added an old USB headset for testing, and *this* card (card 3) is shown in > pavcontrol and kde-plasma audio settings, along with the three sub-devices > of card 0; however, card 1 is not shown. In alsamixer and aplay I can see > the device as "Generic_1", and -- after finding out the pcm name of it via > aplay -L -- I could play some wav file with aplay on it: > > aplay -D front:CARD=Generic_1,DEV=0 some_wav_file.wav > > It seems to be a pulseaudio problem, which seems to arbitrarily ignoring > Generic_1 card. Hmm ... not on PC with pa at the moment to compare notes. The USB device will be initialised by udev, but Generic_1 will require a different approach. Have you looked under your kmix configuration, the "Volume Control" tab? If it is listed in there, you may just need to tick it in order to enable it. Also check under the configuration setting "Select Master Channel". > > Alternatively, take a look at this method of controlling the order in > > which > > audio modules are loaded: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ALSA#Laptops_with_HDMI_audio_output > > Thanks for the link, brought me to inspect /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf. > Corrected the number of sound cards there, but did not help :-( > I remember to have edited this file about 10 years ago, not sure if those > settings are still relevant. > > Cheers, Alex If the alsa drivers are not compiled as modules, the above file would not have any effect. Anyway, let's try this in /etc/asound.conf: defaults.pcm.card 1 defaults.pcm.device 0 defaults.ctl.card 1 On a reboot your Generic_1 analogue card should be available and recognised as the default audio device. You may need to unmute it, via pactl or kmix. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop internal speakers no longer working after recent updates
Am Montag, 30. August 2021, 13:30:03 CEST schrieb Michael: > On Monday, 30 August 2021 11:30:38 BST Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > I have a weird problem on my Lenovo P14s laptop. Before I applied a world > > upgrade (based on August 22 state portage), the internal speaker of the > > laptop worked fine, but now its all silent, although all mixer levels are > > 100% and no channel is muted. > > There was a recent move to pipewire which could have jumbled audio devices > around for you - but I am not familiar with how pipewire works, or why it > would have caused this problem. > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire > I did not install pipewire, so we can exclude this. [snip...] > $ aplay -l > List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices > card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: Generic Digital [Generic Digital] > Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: CX20757 Analog [CX20757 > Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 > Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > Here is output of aplay -l: List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic_1 [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC257 Analog [ALC257 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 3: Headset [Logitech USB Headset], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] Subdevices: 0/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 I added an old USB headset for testing, and *this* card (card 3) is shown in pavcontrol and kde-plasma audio settings, along with the three sub-devices of card 0; however, card 1 is not shown. In alsamixer and aplay I can see the device as "Generic_1", and -- after finding out the pcm name of it via aplay -L -- I could play some wav file with aplay on it: aplay -D front:CARD=Generic_1,DEV=0 some_wav_file.wav It seems to be a pulseaudio problem, which seems to arbitrarily ignoring Generic_1 card. > Alternatively, take a look at this method of controlling the order in which > audio modules are loaded: > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ALSA#Laptops_with_HDMI_audio_output Thanks for the link, brought me to inspect /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf. Corrected the number of sound cards there, but did not help :-( I remember to have edited this file about 10 years ago, not sure if those settings are still relevant. Cheers, Alex
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop internal speakers no longer working after recent updates
On Monday, 30 August 2021 11:30:38 BST Alexander Puchmayr wrote: > Hi there, > > I have a weird problem on my Lenovo P14s laptop. Before I applied a world > upgrade (based on August 22 state portage), the internal speaker of the > laptop worked fine, but now its all silent, although all mixer levels are > 100% and no channel is muted. There was a recent move to pipewire which could have jumbled audio devices around for you - but I am not familiar with how pipewire works, or why it would have caused this problem. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/PipeWire In my use case the capture device (on board mic) is now always enabled upon a reboot and I have to manually disable it each time, because my selection is not being stored. NOTE: I don't use pulseaudio on this system, just alsa and now it is alsa plus pipewire. I haven't yet looked how to configure it. $ ps axf | grep pipe 19015 pts/5S+ 0:00 \_ /bin/grep -E --colour=auto --color=auto pipe 4334 ?Sl 0:05 /usr/bin/pipewire 4349 ?Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/pipewire-media-session 4350 ?Sl 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/pipewire -c pipewire-pulse.conf > Observed facts: > * Connecting a HDMI tv-set produces sound over the tv-set properly > * Booting Win10: Internal speakers working fine --> no hw issue > * Connecting headphone via audio jack under linux - no sound. > * Reverting to backup makes sound work again --> config/sw problem > introduced by update > * In plasma's system settings/audio tray, the Speaker output device is not > shown -- only 3xHDMI (The analog speaker seems to have gone) > > The kernel is exactly the same as before the upgrade, didn't recompile it > (sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.12.0) --> no kernel issue >From the above observations it seems your default audio card has been swapped from analogue to HDMI. This seems to be the default for many laptops. [snip...] > Any further ideas? > > Thanks, Alex You can try swapping them around by adding in /etc/asound.conf appropriate entries; e.g. this is what I have in mine: defaults.pcm.card 1 defaults.pcm.device 0 defaults.ctl.card 1 Where in my case card 1, device 0, is the analogue audio device "HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic": $ aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: Generic Digital [Generic Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: CX20757 Analog [CX20757 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Alternatively, take a look at this method of controlling the order in which audio modules are loaded: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ALSA#Laptops_with_HDMI_audio_output signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Laptop internal speakers no longer working after recent updates
Hi there, I have a weird problem on my Lenovo P14s laptop. Before I applied a world upgrade (based on August 22 state portage), the internal speaker of the laptop worked fine, but now its all silent, although all mixer levels are 100% and no channel is muted. Observed facts: * Connecting a HDMI tv-set produces sound over the tv-set properly * Booting Win10: Internal speakers working fine --> no hw issue * Connecting headphone via audio jack under linux - no sound. * Reverting to backup makes sound work again --> config/sw problem introduced by update * In plasma's system settings/audio tray, the Speaker output device is not shown -- only 3xHDMI (The analog speaker seems to have gone) The kernel is exactly the same as before the upgrade, didn't recompile it (sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.12.0) --> no kernel issue Relevant packet changes: sys-kernel/linux-firmware-20210511 -> sys-kernel/linux-firmware-20210716 dev-python/pyalsa-1.1.6-r1 = dev-python/pyalsa-1.1.6-r1 Media-libs/alsa-lib-1.2.3.2-r1 -> media-libs/alsa-lib-1.2.4 Media-libs/alsa-topology-conf-1.2.3 -> media-libs/alsa-topology-conf-1.2.4 Media-libs/alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.3 -> media-libs/alsa-ucm-conf-1.2.4 Media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.2.2 = media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.2.2 Media-sound/alsa-tools-1.2.2-r1 = media-sound/alsa-tools-1.2.2-r1 Media-sound/alsa-utils-1.2.3 -> media-sound/alsa-utils-1.2.4 Media-libs/pulseaudio-qt-1.2 = media-libs/pulseaudio-qt-1.2 Media-plugins/gst-plugins-pulse-1.16.3 = media-plugins/gst-plugins- pulse-1.16.3 Media-sound/pulseaudio-13.0-r1 = media-sound/pulseaudio-13.0-r1 Kde-plasma/plasma-meta-5.20.5 -> 5.21.5 (including all dependencies) I tried downgrading linux-firmware to the old version from the backup -- did not help. I tried logging in from a completely fresh account to exclude any bad config in the local home directory -> no success. Any further ideas? Thanks, Alex PS: lspci shows 00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Root Complex 00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir IOMMU 00:01.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:02.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:02.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge 00:02.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge 00:02.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge 00:02.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge 00:02.6 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge 00:02.7 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe GPP Bridge 00:08.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir PCIe Dummy Host Bridge 00:08.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Internal PCIe GPP Bridge to Bus 00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH SMBus Controller (rev 51) 00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH LPC Bridge (rev 51) 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 0 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 1 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 2 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 3 00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 4 00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 5 00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 6 00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Renoir Device 24: Function 7 01:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd NVMe SSD Controller SM981/PM981/PM983 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0e) 02:00.1 Serial controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 816a (rev 0e) 02:00.2 Serial controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 816b (rev 0e) 02:00.3 IPMI Interface: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 816c (rev 0e) 02:00.4 USB controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 816d (rev 0e) 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (rev 1a) 04:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS522A PCI Express Card Reader (rev 01) 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 15) 06:00.0 USB controller: Renesas Technology Corp. uPD720202 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 02) 07:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Renoir (rev d1) 07:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device 1637 07:00.2 Encryption controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 10h-1fh) Platform Security Processor 07:00.3 USB controller: Advanced
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop closure should not rfkill
On 2020-03-28 11:07, Michael wrote: On Saturday, 28 March 2020 09:43:56 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: On Friday, March 27, 2020 3:18:47 PM CET n952162 wrote: I want my wireless to continue when I close my laptop lid. Does anyone have a clue what I have to set to make that happen? I've followed it this far: /etc/acpi/events/lm_lid.sh /etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh /lib/udev/lmt-udev (laptop mode tools?) /usr/sbin/laptop_mode /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf has this (I don't find any relevant CONTROL_*): /# "Laptop mode" is the mode in which laptop mode tools makes the computer// //# consume less power. This includes the kernel "laptop_mode" feature, which// //# allows your hard drives to spin down, as well as various other settings which// //# can be tweaked by laptop mode tools. You can enable or disable all of these// //# settings using the CONTROL_... options further down in this config file.// // # ##// // //...// // //#// //# Enable laptop mode when the laptop's lid is closed, even when we're on AC// //# power? (ACPI-ONLY)// //#// //ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_WHEN_LID_CLOSED=0// / Would it be okay to just *remove* /etc/acpi/*/lm_lid.sh? checking the git-repository for laptop-mode-tools, I see the following file with a change to "disable networking by default": https://github.com/rickysarraf/laptop-mode-tools/blob/lmt-upstream/etc/lapto p-mode/conf.d/ethernet.conf IOW, I would suggest checking the file: /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/ethernet.conf -- Joost Most desktops have power management facilities from which the behaviour of various inputs (e.g. lid switch) and configured actions can be finely tuned. I mention it here in the off chance it wasn't already explored as an option. Yes, thank you. That's what we're doing, configuring acpi.
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop closure should not rfkill
On Saturday, 28 March 2020 09:43:56 GMT J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Friday, March 27, 2020 3:18:47 PM CET n952162 wrote: > > I want my wireless to continue when I close my laptop lid. Does anyone > > have a clue what I have to set to make that happen? > > > > I've followed it this far: > > /etc/acpi/events/lm_lid.sh > > > >/etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh > > > > /lib/udev/lmt-udev (laptop mode tools?) > > > >/usr/sbin/laptop_mode > > > > /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d > > > > /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf has this (I don't find any relevant > > > > CONTROL_*): > > /# "Laptop mode" is the mode in which laptop mode tools makes the > > computer// > > //# consume less power. This includes the kernel "laptop_mode" > > feature, which// > > //# allows your hard drives to spin down, as well as various other > > settings which// > > //# can be tweaked by laptop mode tools. You can enable or disable > > all of these// > > //# settings using the CONTROL_... options further down in this > > config file.// > > > > // > > # > > ##// // > > > > //...// > > // > > //#// > > //# Enable laptop mode when the laptop's lid is closed, even when > > we're on AC// > > //# power? (ACPI-ONLY)// > > //#// > > //ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_WHEN_LID_CLOSED=0// > > / > > > > Would it be okay to just *remove* /etc/acpi/*/lm_lid.sh? > > checking the git-repository for laptop-mode-tools, I see the following file > with a change to "disable networking by default": > > https://github.com/rickysarraf/laptop-mode-tools/blob/lmt-upstream/etc/lapto > p-mode/conf.d/ethernet.conf > > IOW, I would suggest checking the file: > > /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/ethernet.conf > > -- > Joost Most desktops have power management facilities from which the behaviour of various inputs (e.g. lid switch) and configured actions can be finely tuned. I mention it here in the off chance it wasn't already explored as an option. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop closure should not rfkill
On Friday, March 27, 2020 3:18:47 PM CET n952162 wrote: > I want my wireless to continue when I close my laptop lid. Does anyone > have a clue what I have to set to make that happen? > > I've followed it this far: > > /etc/acpi/events/lm_lid.sh >/etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh > /lib/udev/lmt-udev (laptop mode tools?) >/usr/sbin/laptop_mode > /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d > > > /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf has this (I don't find any relevant > CONTROL_*): > > /# "Laptop mode" is the mode in which laptop mode tools makes the > computer// > //# consume less power. This includes the kernel "laptop_mode" > feature, which// > //# allows your hard drives to spin down, as well as various other > settings which// > //# can be tweaked by laptop mode tools. You can enable or disable > all of these// > //# settings using the CONTROL_... options further down in this > config file.// > > //# > ##// // > //...// > // > //#// > //# Enable laptop mode when the laptop's lid is closed, even when > we're on AC// > //# power? (ACPI-ONLY)// > //#// > //ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_WHEN_LID_CLOSED=0// > / > > > Would it be okay to just *remove* /etc/acpi/*/lm_lid.sh? checking the git-repository for laptop-mode-tools, I see the following file with a change to "disable networking by default": https://github.com/rickysarraf/laptop-mode-tools/blob/lmt-upstream/etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/ethernet.conf IOW, I would suggest checking the file: /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d/ethernet.conf -- Joost
[gentoo-user] laptop closure should not rfkill
I want my wireless to continue when I close my laptop lid. Does anyone have a clue what I have to set to make that happen? I've followed it this far: /etc/acpi/events/lm_lid.sh /etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh /lib/udev/lmt-udev (laptop mode tools?) /usr/sbin/laptop_mode /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf has this (I don't find any relevant CONTROL_*): /# "Laptop mode" is the mode in which laptop mode tools makes the computer// //# consume less power. This includes the kernel "laptop_mode" feature, which// //# allows your hard drives to spin down, as well as various other settings which// //# can be tweaked by laptop mode tools. You can enable or disable all of these// //# settings using the CONTROL_... options further down in this config file.// //###// // //...// // //#// //# Enable laptop mode when the laptop's lid is closed, even when we're on AC// //# power? (ACPI-ONLY)// //#// //ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_WHEN_LID_CLOSED=0// / Would it be okay to just *remove* /etc/acpi/*/lm_lid.sh?
[gentoo-user] laptop closure should not rfkill
I want my wireless to continue when I close my laptop lid. Does anyone have a clue what I have to set to make that happen? I've followed it this far: /etc/acpi/events/lm_lid.sh /etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh /lib/udev/lmt-udev (laptop mode tools?) /usr/sbin/laptop_mode /etc/laptop-mode/conf.d /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf has this (I don't find any relevant CONTROL_*): /# "Laptop mode" is the mode in which laptop mode tools makes the computer// //# consume less power. This includes the kernel "laptop_mode" feature, which// //# allows your hard drives to spin down, as well as various other settings which// //# can be tweaked by laptop mode tools. You can enable or disable all of these// //# settings using the CONTROL_... options further down in this config file.// //###// // //...// // //#// //# Enable laptop mode when the laptop's lid is closed, even when we're on AC// //# power? (ACPI-ONLY)// //#// //ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE_WHEN_LID_CLOSED=0// / Would it be okay to just *remove* /etc/acpi/*/lm_lid.sh?
[gentoo-user] laptop/tablet convertibles linux compatibility
Hello to everyone. I'd like to buy a laptop/tablet convertible and to install Gentoo on it. Searching Google I couldn't find up to date information about the linux compatibility of this kind of device (most of the pages I found are at least a couple of years old and at any rate, they give quite contradictory information). Does anyone know what the situation is like today in this regard? In particular, I'm looking to buy some of the less expensive convertibles, at most around 300€ (350$), as my needs for it are modest (basically, as I'm a teacher, I'd like to use it as a tablet in the classroom to record absent students, marks and so on instead of the very old tablet the school provided and to use it as a laptop to read e-books and write while traveling to school by bus). Looking on amazon, I found some models which could satisfy my needs: * Asus T100TAF-BING-DK024B [1] * Asus T100TAL-BING-DK034B [2] * Acer Aspire Switch W5-012-149A [3] * HP Pavilion x2 10-n002nl [4] Does anyone know whether they work with Gentoo? Are there any models which work well and that I overlooked? Thanks in advance Stefano [1] http://www.amazon.it/Asus-T100TAF-BING-DK024B-Transformer-Convertibile-Touchscreen/dp/B00SU7V1A8/ref=sr_1_1/280-8290032-6323628?s=pc=UTF8=1446368786=1-1 [2] http://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B00P0YRGW6/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza [3] http://www.amazon.it/Acer-Aspire-Switch-W5-012-149A-Convertibile/dp/B00PMCS2WO/ref=sr_1_3/280-8290032-6323628?s=pc=UTF8=1446368786=1-3 [4] http://www.amazon.it/HP-Pavilion-10-n002nl-Touchscreen-DDR3L-1600/dp/B011760S7K/ref=sr_1_5/276-5315837-3449853?s=pc=UTF8=1446369891=1-5
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table, return the laptop to the shop as it is clearly not working properly. When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Not to be tried at home ;-) You don't have a fridge at home? ROFL Sorry, I couldn't pass that one up. ;-) At one time, I thought about putting a rig that ran sorta warm in my freezer. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On 17/12/2014 11:03, Dale wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table, return the laptop to the shop as it is clearly not working properly. When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Not to be tried at home ;-) You don't have a fridge at home? ROFL Sorry, I couldn't pass that one up. ;-) At one time, I thought about putting a rig that ran sorta warm in my freezer. So you trade heat damage for water damage? Hm, I'd be thinking it's time for new computer that DoesCoolingRight(tm) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/12/2014 11:03, Dale wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table, return the laptop to the shop as it is clearly not working properly. When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Not to be tried at home ;-) You don't have a fridge at home? ROFL Sorry, I couldn't pass that one up. ;-) At one time, I thought about putting a rig that ran sorta warm in my freezer. So you trade heat damage for water damage? Hm, I'd be thinking it's time for new computer that DoesCoolingRight(tm) It was a hand me down. Since everything in there is well below freezing, it shouldn't get water damage. Now when I take it out of the freezer, that could get interesting and cause the issue you are raising which is why I never did it either. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On Dec 17, 2014, at 8:37, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Not to be tried at home ;-) This is hilarious ;D -- -Matti
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On Dec 17, 2014, at 12:56, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/12/2014 11:03, Dale wrote: Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table, return the laptop to the shop as it is clearly not working properly. When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Not to be tried at home ;-) You don't have a fridge at home? ROFL Sorry, I couldn't pass that one up. ;-) At one time, I thought about putting a rig that ran sorta warm in my freezer. So you trade heat damage for water damage? Hm, I'd be thinking it's time for new computer that DoesCoolingRight(tm) It was a hand me down. Since everything in there is well below freezing, it shouldn't get water damage. Now when I take it out of the freezer, that could get interesting and cause the issue you are raising which is why I never did it either. Because the temperature of the laptop in the freezer will always be above dew point it will never get wet. When you take it out though it's temperature will most likely be below dew point of the ambient air so water will condensate unless the access of water is blocked by a plastic bag for example. -- -Matti
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On 12/17/2014 02:46 PM, Matti Nykyri wrote: Because the temperature of the laptop in the freezer will always be above dew point it will never get wet. When you take it out though it's temperature will most likely be below dew point of the ambient air so water will condensate Right. Which is why he should turn it off as soon as he takes it out, and let it warm up to room temperature, before he turns it back on.
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
Thanasis wrote: On 12/17/2014 02:46 PM, Matti Nykyri wrote: Because the temperature of the laptop in the freezer will always be above dew point it will never get wet. When you take it out though it's temperature will most likely be below dew point of the ambient air so water will condensate Right. Which is why he should turn it off as soon as he takes it out, and let it warm up to room temperature, before he turns it back on. And I'd let it sit for a while just to be safe. Turning something on that still has condensation on/in it is a bad thing all the way around. I still remember one time MANY years ago when we got our first color TV. It was cold as heck too. Well, we left it in the back seat of the car while we was running around doing errands and the car never warmed up between trips. We were just bouncing around town. When we finally got home, my Dad brought the TV in and it took a little bit to unhook and move the old TV out and put the new TV in. By that time, it had built up enough condensation somewhere in there that it sparked and a few seconds later it really sparked. Then the smoke got out. We all know what happens when the smoke got out. Brand new TV was junk. If I had put that old thing in the freezer just to play around or something, I'd cut it off before taking it out, take the side off and let it warm up. Once warmed up, put a little fan on it overnight or something to be safe. I might add, my deep freezer runs between -10F and about 0F. I doubt any puter would warm up much unless it is using really small heat sinks. It would certainly be under cooled for a room temp environment. It was just a thought tho. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
Hi, Stefan G. Weichinger writes: When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Haha, this whole thread reminded me of this XKCD: http://xkcd.com/1172/ Regards, -- Christian Kruse http://ck.kennt-wayne.de/ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:18:54PM +, Mick wrote: There may be nothing wrong with your configuration, but something wrong with the design of your laptop. Some laptops are not designed particularly well with regards to ventilation. In the summer I have a desk fan which I turn on and direct it on the side of the laptop, so that air blows above and below. The temperatures drop by more than 10-15C in a couple of minutes. Perhaps you should try something similar. -- Regards, Mick Okay, glad to hear I'm not doing something wrong. I'll try to clean it and be better about putting a wedge under it when I compile and walk away. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 07:37:24AM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Not to be tried at home ;-) Hahaha, I've actually considered this before but decided that I'd only end up melting my ice cream... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
;-) Yes, nice. To explain: I only let the thinkpad in there for maybe 10 minutes or so ... So the risk is minimized, I assume. Am 17. Dezember 2014 18:44:37 MEZ, schrieb Christian Kruse c...@defunct.ch: Hi, Stefan G. Weichinger writes: When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Haha, this whole thread reminded me of this XKCD: http://xkcd.com/1172/ Regards, -- Christian Kruse http://ck.kennt-wayne.de/ -- Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android-Mobiltelefon mit K-9 Mail gesendet.
[gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
Hey guys, When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. If I leave it open and on a table, everything is fine. I have a quad-core processor and MAKEOPTS=-j5. During compilation, system load is around 5 and all 4 cores are maxed out. My CPU temp is 99C or under, which is safe for this machine. dmesg shows this every few minutes whenever my machine is at max temp, which I've read is normal: [ 2092.018902] CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 179101) [ 2092.018903] CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 179101) [ 2092.018906] CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018907] CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018908] CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018916] CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.019864] CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019865] CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019866] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019867] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019868] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019874] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2099.655532] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged At the time of crash, syslog contains a bunch of '^@^@^@^@^@^@^@...', but nothing useful. It looks like my cpu clock is being scaled, but perhaps not being scaled enough. I'm guessing the processor halts when I hit 100C. Again, when I leave it well-ventilated it never goes above 99C and everything is fine. Any ideas about where I should look? Randy signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On Tuesday 16 Dec 2014 21:16:38 Randy Westlund wrote: Hey guys, When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. If I leave it open and on a table, everything is fine. I have a quad-core processor and MAKEOPTS=-j5. During compilation, system load is around 5 and all 4 cores are maxed out. My CPU temp is 99C or under, which is safe for this machine. dmesg shows this every few minutes whenever my machine is at max temp, which I've read is normal: [ 2092.018902] CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 179101) [ 2092.018903] CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 179101) [ 2092.018906] CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018907] CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018908] CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018916] CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.019864] CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019865] CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019866] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019867] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019868] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019874] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2099.655532] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged At the time of crash, syslog contains a bunch of '^@^@^@^@^@^@^@...', but nothing useful. It looks like my cpu clock is being scaled, but perhaps not being scaled enough. I'm guessing the processor halts when I hit 100C. Again, when I leave it well-ventilated it never goes above 99C and everything is fine. Any ideas about where I should look? Randy There may be nothing wrong with your configuration, but something wrong with the design of your laptop. Some laptops are not designed particularly well with regards to ventilation. In the summer I have a desk fan which I turn on and direct it on the side of the laptop, so that air blows above and below. The temperatures drop by more than 10-15C in a couple of minutes. Perhaps you should try something similar. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 04:16:38 PM Randy Westlund wrote: Hey guys, When I'm compiling something large and close the lid of my laptop (lid close events disabled) or leave it on the couch where it can't get proper airflow, it tends to overheat and crash. If I leave it open and on a table, everything is fine. I have a quad-core processor and MAKEOPTS=-j5. During compilation, system load is around 5 and all 4 cores are maxed out. My CPU temp is 99C or under, which is safe for this machine. dmesg shows this every few minutes whenever my machine is at max temp, which I've read is normal: [ 2092.018902] CPU0: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 179101) [ 2092.018903] CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 179101) [ 2092.018906] CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018907] CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018908] CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.018916] CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 227311) [ 2092.019864] CPU0: Core temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019865] CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019866] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019867] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019868] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2092.019874] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal [ 2099.655532] mce: [Hardware Error]: Machine check events logged At the time of crash, syslog contains a bunch of '^@^@^@^@^@^@^@...', but nothing useful. It looks like my cpu clock is being scaled, but perhaps not being scaled enough. I'm guessing the processor halts when I hit 100C. Again, when I leave it well-ventilated it never goes above 99C and everything is fine. Any ideas about where I should look? Randy Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table, return the laptop to the shop as it is clearly not working properly. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Overheat
Am 17.12.2014 um 07:33 schrieb J. Roeleveld: Try cleaning the vents. Also, most couches have a tendency to compress when something like a laptop is on it. Effectively blocking all airflow. If the temperature goes to 99C when on top of a table, return the laptop to the shop as it is clearly not working properly. When I compile bigger packages on my small ThinkPad X220 I sometimes put it into the fridge ;-) This effectively cools it down rather quickly ... and I ssh in via wifi. Not to be tried at home ;-)
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Michael Scherer a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: ** unless you have solved the problem already, could you please post the rc.log, too? michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - *From:* Zhang Jun gb2...@gmail.com *To:* gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org *Sent:* Monday, 23 April, 2012 03:50 *Subject:* Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot I get the dmesg log and kernel config, forgot to get the rc.log ( using windows now ). please help to have a look on these files, also tryed boot with different kernel parameters for acpi, only acpi=off works, but I don't think it is a good idea. I'm using grub4dos with kernel (hd0,7)/kernel-3.0.17-r1 root=/dev/sda9 ro quiet vga=792 gentoo=nodevfs acpi_enforce_resources=lax resume=swap:/dev/sda7, remove the acpi_enforce_resources=lax also not works. thanks! On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Michael Scherer a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: ** did you look at the logs? if you haven't already looked at them dmesg and /var/log/rc.log have information that could help you pinpoint the problem. one of the earlier live-cds had that problem and I got around it by starting the the cd with gentoo noacpi nox options though I doubt this can help in your case. could you provide some more information like the logs, the loader conf files and may be .config of your kernel make? michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - *From:* Zhang Jun gb2...@gmail.com *To:* gentoo-user gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org *Sent:* Sunday, 22 April, 2012 08:25 *Subject:* [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot laptop: asus F3TC, amd Turion, NV-go7300 kernel-3.0.17-r1 tuxonice screen goes dark just after I see the linux boot logo, when using kernel 2.6.x, I even do not use hotkey to control lcd backlight, default light is ok, but now, it goes dark, re-compiled kernel many times, but no luck, in kernel acpi config page, I did't see the video module, and seems no /proc/acpi/video/ . is there anyone have met this problem and have solution ? thanks! sorry, I didn't get time to test these ideads, I just turn on /etc/r.conf 'rc_logger=YES', here is rc.log rc.log Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot
Please try to deactivate everything related to framebuffer and specific video hardware in your kernel config. See if it helps, then activate one option at a time until it breaks again. Specifically: CONFIG_FB=y CONFIG_FB_BOOT_VESA_SUPPORT=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_FILLRECT=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_COPYAREA=y CONFIG_FB_CFB_IMAGEBLIT=y CONFIG_FB_MODE_HELPERS=y CONFIG_FB_TILEBLITTING=y CONFIG_FB_VESA=y CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y The only thing you really need for the start is CONFIG_VGA_CONSOLE. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp P.S.: Please don't top-post in the future. Use an email client that allows you to write your response below the text you quote. That makes large threads easier to read. Am 23.04.2012 03:50, schrieb Zhang Jun: I get the dmesg log and kernel config, forgot to get the rc.log ( using windows now ). please help to have a look on these files, also tryed boot with different kernel parameters for acpi, only acpi=off works, but I don't think it is a good idea. I'm using grub4dos with kernel (hd0,7)/kernel-3.0.17-r1 root=/dev/sda9 ro quiet vga=792 gentoo=nodevfs acpi_enforce_resources=lax resume=swap:/dev/sda7, remove the acpi_enforce_resources=lax also not works. thanks! On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Michael Scherer a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at mailto:a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: __ did you look at the logs? if you haven't already looked at them dmesg and /var/log/rc.log have information that could help you pinpoint the problem. one of the earlier live-cds had that problem and I got around it by starting the the cd with gentoo noacpi nox options though I doubt this can help in your case. could you provide some more information like the logs, the loader conf files and may be .config of your kernel make? michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at mailto:michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - *From:* Zhang Jun mailto:gb2...@gmail.com *To:* gentoo-user mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org *Sent:* Sunday, 22 April, 2012 08:25 *Subject:* [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot laptop: asus F3TC, amd Turion, NV-go7300 kernel-3.0.17-r1 tuxonice screen goes dark just after I see the linux boot logo, when using kernel 2.6.x, I even do not use hotkey to control lcd backlight, default light is ok, but now, it goes dark, re-compiled kernel many times, but no luck, in kernel acpi config page, I did't see the video module, and seems no /proc/acpi/video/ . is there anyone have met this problem and have solution ? thanks! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot
unless you have solved the problem already, could you please post the rc.log, too? michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: Zhang Jun To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, 23 April, 2012 03:50 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot I get the dmesg log and kernel config, forgot to get the rc.log ( using windows now ). please help to have a look on these files, also tryed boot with different kernel parameters for acpi, only acpi=off works, but I don't think it is a good idea. I'm using grub4dos with kernel (hd0,7)/kernel-3.0.17-r1 root=/dev/sda9 ro quiet vga=792 gentoo=nodevfs acpi_enforce_resources=lax resume=swap:/dev/sda7, remove the acpi_enforce_resources=lax also not works. thanks! On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Michael Scherer a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at wrote: did you look at the logs? if you haven't already looked at them dmesg and /var/log/rc.log have information that could help you pinpoint the problem. one of the earlier live-cds had that problem and I got around it by starting the the cd with gentoo noacpi nox options though I doubt this can help in your case. could you provide some more information like the logs, the loader conf files and may be .config of your kernel make? michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: Zhang Jun To: gentoo-user Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2012 08:25 Subject: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot laptop: asus F3TC, amd Turion, NV-go7300 kernel-3.0.17-r1 tuxonice screen goes dark just after I see the linux boot logo, when using kernel 2.6.x, I even do not use hotkey to control lcd backlight, default light is ok, but now, it goes dark, re-compiled kernel many times, but no luck, in kernel acpi config page, I did't see the video module, and seems no /proc/acpi/video/ . is there anyone have met this problem and have solution ? thanks!
[gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot
laptop: asus F3TC, amd Turion, NV-go7300 kernel-3.0.17-r1 tuxonice screen goes dark just after I see the linux boot logo, when using kernel 2.6.x, I even do not use hotkey to control lcd backlight, default light is ok, but now, it goes dark, re-compiled kernel many times, but no luck, in kernel acpi config page, I did't see the video module, and seems no /proc/acpi/video/ . is there anyone have met this problem and have solution ? thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot
did you look at the logs? if you haven't already looked at them dmesg and /var/log/rc.log have information that could help you pinpoint the problem. one of the earlier live-cds had that problem and I got around it by starting the the cd with gentoo noacpi nox options though I doubt this can help in your case. could you provide some more information like the logs, the loader conf files and may be .config of your kernel make? michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: Zhang Jun To: gentoo-user Sent: Sunday, 22 April, 2012 08:25 Subject: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot laptop: asus F3TC, amd Turion, NV-go7300 kernel-3.0.17-r1 tuxonice screen goes dark just after I see the linux boot logo, when using kernel 2.6.x, I even do not use hotkey to control lcd backlight, default light is ok, but now, it goes dark, re-compiled kernel many times, but no luck, in kernel acpi config page, I did't see the video module, and seems no /proc/acpi/video/ . is there anyone have met this problem and have solution ? thanks!
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop - Switch video/audio output to HDMI?
On 29 November 2011 23:17, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm finally joining the 21st century having purchased my first new TV in more than 13 years. My laptop runs KDE with Nvidia drivers. I'm wondering what the process is to switch the audio video output of my laptop the its HDMI port? I'd like to try using xine to play DVDs. I assume in Linux I'm going to have to mess with both Alsa and X which in the end sounds like a disaster waiting to happen but I figure I might as well see if it's actually easier than I think. When running as a normal laptop the machine uses the nvidia-drivers package and the kernel's Intel HD Audio driver. If I want to deliver audio over HDMI do I need to switch to the Nvidia audio device? Makes sense but creates more problems testing if it doesn't work really easily. Anyway, just looking for someone to point me in the right direction. Thanks, Mark The gentoo-wiki page on the Acer Revo 3600 might help you here - different hardware, but it has a quick and dirty config.
[gentoo-user] Laptop - Switch video/audio output to HDMI?
Hi, I'm finally joining the 21st century having purchased my first new TV in more than 13 years. My laptop runs KDE with Nvidia drivers. I'm wondering what the process is to switch the audio video output of my laptop the its HDMI port? I'd like to try using xine to play DVDs. I assume in Linux I'm going to have to mess with both Alsa and X which in the end sounds like a disaster waiting to happen but I figure I might as well see if it's actually easier than I think. When running as a normal laptop the machine uses the nvidia-drivers package and the kernel's Intel HD Audio driver. If I want to deliver audio over HDMI do I need to switch to the Nvidia audio device? Makes sense but creates more problems testing if it doesn't work really easily. Anyway, just looking for someone to point me in the right direction. Thanks, Mark slinky linux # lspci SNIP 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) SNIP 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0dd1 (rev a1) 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Device 0be9 (rev a1) SNIP slinky linux #
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop - Switch video/audio output to HDMI?
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 03:17:53PM -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I'm finally joining the 21st century having purchased my first new TV in more than 13 years. My laptop runs KDE with Nvidia drivers. I'm wondering what the process is to switch the audio video output of my laptop the its HDMI port? I'd like to try using xine to play DVDs. I assume in Linux I'm going to have to mess with both Alsa and X which in the end sounds like a disaster waiting to happen but I figure I might as well see if it's actually easier than I think. […] Anyway, just looking for someone to point me in the right direction. I am administrating the laptop of a friend of mine. She’s running KDE 4.4 on Debian Squeeze with Intel graphics and an external monitor/TV. KDE can switch audio to an external monitor by itself using System settings → Hardware → Multimedia → Phonon. There, in the Device Priority tab, you’ll have to change the order of items (i.e. put HDMI to the top) and then all programs that use phonon route their sound to HDMI. I *believe* that when the monitor is not present (after all, it’s a laptop), the sound should automatically be routed to the next device in the list. But I think that we had some problems in that regard. But then again, she’s running an outdated KDE. -- Gruß | Greetings | Qapla' I forbid any use of my email addresses with Facebook services. Die schwierigste Turnübung ist, sich selbst auf den Arm zu nehmen. pgp19VNAFjYCJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
Ask not will this work on Gentoo, rather ask will this work on Linux! Your answer is very interesting, Iain. I'll try what you wrote, and then take my decision ;-) Thank you very much for the explanation. Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
The best would be to run lspci on the machine as others suggested. You can paste the lspci -n output here and get the availability of drivers for linux. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ There is also lists of hardware/laptops known to be working on Gentoo. N series is not listed on Gentoo wiki but perhaps you can find it on other distros' wiki or at least find laptops with common hardware. http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Index:Laptops -- Fatih
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
The best would be to run lspci on the machine as others suggested. You can paste the lspci -n output here and get the availability of drivers for linux. http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ There is also lists of hardware/laptops known to be working on Gentoo. N series is not listed on Gentoo wiki but perhaps you can find it on other distros' wiki or at least find laptops with common hardware. http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Index:Laptops Thank you Fatih. I'll try also your suggestions. Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 11:08 +0200, Roger Cahn wrote: Ask not will this work on Gentoo, rather ask will this work on Linux! Your answer is very interesting, Iain. I'll try what you wrote, and then take my decision ;-) no probs, but no need to reply to me AND the group, just the group reply will do :) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au He who renders warfare fatal to all engaged in it will be the greatest benefactor the world has yet known. -- Sir Richard Burton
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
Thank you for your answers. To get a sensible answer on a question like that, you MUST supply the entire spec of all the hardware you intend to buy. Only then can people offer an opinion on how good or otherwise the drivers are. Here are the specifications: Specifications Processor Cache Memory Support Intel® i7 Quad Core™ Processor CPU Operating System Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium Chipset Mobile Intel® HM55 Express Chipset Main Memory DDR3 1333 MHz SDRAM, 3 x SODIMM socket for expansion up to 12GB SDRAM Display 17.3 16:9 Full HD (1920x1080)/HD+ (1600x900) LED backlight,Asus Splendid Video Intelligent Technology Video Graphics Memory NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 425M with 1GB DDR3 VRAM Hard Drive2.5 9.5mm SATA 640GB ,5400rpm 750GB,7200rpm 500GB,5400rpm;7200rpm 320GB,5400rpm;7200rpm Dual HDD support Optical Drive DVD Super Multi Double Layer Blu-ray RW Card Reader 4 in 1 SD,MMC,MS,MS-Pro card reader Video Camera 2.0 Mega Pixel web camera (Optional) Fax/Modem/LAN/WLANIntegrated 802.11 b/g/n Built-in Bluetooth™ V2.1+EDR (optional) 10/100/1000 Base T Interface 1 x E-SATA (USB 2.0 combo)1 x Microphone-in jack 1 x Headphone-out jack (S/PDIF) 1 x VGA port/Mini D-sub 15-pin for external monitor 2 x USB 2.0 ports 1 x RJ45 LAN Jack for LAN insert 1 x HDMI 1 x WLAN On/Off Switch Audio Bang Olufsen ICEpower® SonicFocus Built-in speaker and microphone Battery Pack Life 6 cells: 4400 mAh 47 Whrs AC AdapterOutput: 19 V DC, 6.32 A, 120 W Input:100-240 V AC, 50/60 Hz universal I hope it will help you...and me;-) Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
Hi, Ask not will this work on Gentoo, rather ask will this work on Linux! You'll get much better responses to your research on google at least. If it works on any mainstream Linux distribution, there's a 99.9% chance it will work on Gentoo. For example, I just did a google search for NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 425M linux and found out in a few seconds that it probably works with nvidia-drivers 260.19.06, but not nouveau (open source drivers). http://packages.gentoo.org/package/x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers tells me that nvidia-drivers 260.19.06 and 260.19.12 are hard-masked because they're in the beta phase, so you may or may not have success with them. You can repeat that search (hardware-device linux) for all the usual problematic hardware that you decide you must have working: * video camera * wireless * ethernet * bluetooth * audio however you need the actual chip or vendor name, for example Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 not just Integrated 802.11. The specs you gave are a bit light on those details. The best way to do this is run lspci on the box in the store as someone mentioned. Yes you will be able to install Linux on it for sure. Still not sure about 100% hardware compatibility. HTH, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au We have not inherited the earth from our parents, we've borrowed it from our children.
[gentoo-user] Laptop
Hi, I want to buy a laptop Asus N series, but could anybody tell me if its possible to use it with Gentoo-Linux? And in case of yes, if it's a good choice? Thank you Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:03 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Roger Cahn did opine thusly: Hi, I want to buy a laptop Asus N series, but could anybody tell me if its possible to use it with Gentoo-Linux? And in case of yes, if it's a good choice? Thank you Roger Does it have Intel cpus? Then you can use it. Will it work with the supplied wifi card? I haven't the foggiest clue mostly as I don't know what card it has. To get a sensible answer on a question like that, you MUST supply the entire spec of all the hardware you intend to buy. Only then can people offer an opinion on how good or otherwise the drivers are. The way you composed that mail, everyone else will need to do the research on the hardware for you. Most of us would rather you did that bit yourself. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 14:03 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, Roger Cahn did opine thusly: Hi, I want to buy a laptop Asus N series, but could anybody tell me if its possible to use it with Gentoo-Linux? And in case of yes, if it's a good choice? Thank you Roger Does it have Intel cpus? Then you can use it. Will it work with the supplied wifi card? I haven't the foggiest clue mostly as I don't know what card it has. To get a sensible answer on a question like that, you MUST supply the entire spec of all the hardware you intend to buy. Only then can people offer an opinion on how good or otherwise the drivers are. The way you composed that mail, everyone else will need to do the research on the hardware for you. Most of us would rather you did that bit yourself. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com If you are able to run on a laptop like this the commands: lspci cat /proc/cpuinfo It will give a good insight of the spec of this laptop. I would take with me a live gentoo cd and try to run it on this laptop in the store. One more thing, If the wireless card is not supported, I think that you can buy one that is supported by linux for 30$. Just make sure you know how to change the cards. Reagards, Kfir
[gentoo-user] laptop-mode
With recent update to laptop-mode I decided to rework the power saving on my sony vaio. Mostly ok, but it seems laptop-mode is exclusively grabbing acpi events somehow. I have modded /etc/acpi/default.conf to trap the function keys for screen brightness and then control the LCD. However laptop-mode seems to have taken over and default.conf is no longer processed by acpid on an event, or events are not getting there. How can I either get acpid to process events through the normal files, or some other method to allow manual control of screen brightness and still keep acpi access for laptop-mode? BillK
[gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? TIA, Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
On 12/2/2009 11:26 AM, Mick wrote: 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I got that error when I copied the wrong kernel image to /boot, make sure you are copying the one detailed in the gentoo handbook (chapter 7, I think). Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 06:13 -0800, BRM wrote: the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Please post the exact error message (write it down if need be). Simply saying or something to that effect tends to lead to errors in responses (or something to that effect ;). -a
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
- Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. Thanks. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance Thanks - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I'll post that tonight. - Original Message From: Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net I got that error when I copied the wrong kernel image to /boot, make sure you are copying the one detailed in the gentoo handbook (chapter 7, I think). The last kernel I copied in I copied the file specified by the kernel's README: arch/arch/boot/bzImage - arch being x86. Though according to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-config.xml it should be arch/i386/boot/bzImage...not sure which is right off hand. Will check into it tonight. Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection...
BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: I'm still working to get my laptop back up; I have one more thing to try. Presently, I am having a problem with the compiling a 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 kernel that actually works. It might be a processor issue - linux reports it as a Pentium M which is what I have selected during 'make menuconfig', but the the grub keeps reporting that it is not a recognized format or something to that effect, so it won't load it. Questions: 1) I am using the Gentoo 2007.0 LiveCD to boot with, then chroot'ing into my installation to build the kernel. I shouldn't need a newer LiveCD, correct? Correct as long as it recognise your hardware. Thanks. 2) Grub doesn't need to be re-run (e.g. running the grub prompt and going through the install procedure) after changes to the menu file, correct? Correct, assuming you have installed GRUB correctly in the first instance Thanks - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I'll post that tonight. - Original Message From: Marcus Wanner marc...@cox.net I got that error when I copied the wrong kernel image to /boot, make sure you are copying the one detailed in the gentoo handbook (chapter 7, I think). The last kernel I copied in I copied the file specified by the kernel's README: arch/arch/boot/bzImage - arch being x86. Though according to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-config.xml it should be arch/i386/boot/bzImage...not sure which is right off hand. Will check into it tonight. Ben This may not be the problem but I ran into this a while back. Some times when I build a kernel, the bzImage in */i386/boot is actually a link, not the bzImage itself. Naturally copying a link will not boot, especially if it breaks the link or /usr is on a separate partition and not mounted yet. I ran into this twice with two different kernels. I can't recall the version tho. You may want to check that before you copy the bzImage over, just to make sure it is a file and not a link. Oh, don't forget to mount /boot too. Very common thing to forget. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop resurrection... (solved)
- Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com On Wednesday 02 December 2009 20:52:35 BRM wrote: - Original Message From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com 2009/12/2 BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com: - which makes me ask: What is your exact error message? I'll post that tonight. Exact error message was: ERROR 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format Well, I mounted the drive again - and didn't go into the chroot shell. I had been doing all the copying from within the chroot before. I found the arch/i386/boot/bzImage, which does just point to arch/x86/boot/bzImage. I had copied arch/x86/boot/bzImage but for whatever reason the md5 hashes of the image and what I had copied didn't match. So I copied it, rebooted, and viola it worked. Odd...not sure what was up with it; but it's working. Now to update the environment. - Original Message From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com Oh, don't forget to mount /boot too. Very common thing to for True; however I don't setup /boot that way unless I absolutely have to - namely for older systems that couldn't access the whole hard drive until after the kernel was loaded, or some other explicit reason. I haven't had a system like that in a long time. And it wasn't needed on this system. Thanks! Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
Just following up - for anyone searching the archives - the bug report mentioned below did solve the problem. When I had added the acpid to the default run-level, I had not restarted hald before starting it, thus the script didn't get called. Any how...it now works excellently. I use radeontool to turn off the screen, and it works without having to know about X. I also send out a message via D-Bus to the KDE Desktop to initiate the screen saver on close, and turn it off on open. (I ignore the password side of the screen saver, but you can honor that too if you like). Thanks for the help all! Ben - Original Message From: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:59:55 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close... Cool. Thanks. That looks like it should solve the issue. Ben - Original Message From: Gregory SACRE gregory.sa...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:32:32 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close... I've googled a bit and found these two things: [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/175464 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/51591 They both refer to problems with hald and acpid entering in conflict. Check if you are using hald. If you are, try stopping it and starting acpid to see if it still gives you the problem. Concerning the fact that the script isn't called, you have to check in your /etc/acpi/event/default. Make sure that you have lines such as: event=.* action=/etc/acpi/default.sh %e Basically, it says that for any event handled by acpi, launch /etc/acpi/default.sh. And in /etc/acpi/default.sh, check for the lid event. It should look like this: [...] case $group in [...] lid) /etc/acpi/screen_off.sh /tmp/screen_off 21 [...] where screen_off.sh is the script I sent you in my previous mail. HTH, Greg On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:58 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: For some reason, the script is not getting called when I press the button. That is not to say that the system doesn't recognize it - if I set KDE to put the system in stand-by when the lid is closed, it very well will. But as I said earlier, that's not what I want - I just want to turn on/off the monitor. I know kacpid is running...but I don't think acpid is...at least, when I tried /etc/init.d/acpid start it complained: * Starting acpid ... acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy Ben - Original Message From: Gregory SACRE gregory.sa...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:57:31 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close... This is the script I am using. It is spawned by the default.sh from /etc/acpi: -- SCRIPT START -- # default display on current host export XAUTHORITY=/home/your_user/.Xauthority DISPLAY=:0.0 # find out if monitor is on STATUS=`cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state` logger monitor: $STATUS # find out if DPMS is enabled DPMS=`xset -display $DISPLAY -q | grep -e 'DPMS is'` logger dpms: $DPMS # enable DPMS if disabled if [ $DPMS == DPMS is Disabled ] then logger Enabling DPMS ... xset -display $DISPLAY +dpms fi if [ `echo $STATUS | grep -i closed | wc -l` -eq 1 ] then logger [`date`] Turning display OFF xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force off else logger [`date`] Turning display ON # shows up in log xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force on# turn monitor on xset -display $DISPLAY s activate # un-blank monitor fi #clean up unset STATUS unset DPMS # comment this line out if you're manually running this script from a shell (put a # in front of it) unset DISPLAY exit 0 -- SCRIPT STOP -- Change the your_user variable. I had also to set xscreensaver to switch off my monitor instead of blanking it, because I think (not sure) that xscreensaver was switching on my monitor when it was supposed to start the screensaver (as after a while, my monitor was switched back on, and as I didn't see that happening since my xscreensaver modification, I can only assume that was the problem). HTH, Greg On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running a Dell D600, and I've located a number of tools for it but I am not seeing anything related to when I close the lid. Since I got Gentoo running on it, the Monitor continues running when I close the lid. I've found several sources for doing something as an ACPI event, which seems to be the right method. I can toggle the button with the lid open and cat /etc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state and see it change between 'open' and 'closed'; and I know I could write myself a little script do
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
I've googled a bit and found these two things: [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/175464 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/51591 They both refer to problems with hald and acpid entering in conflict. Check if you are using hald. If you are, try stopping it and starting acpid to see if it still gives you the problem. Concerning the fact that the script isn't called, you have to check in your /etc/acpi/event/default. Make sure that you have lines such as: event=.* action=/etc/acpi/default.sh %e Basically, it says that for any event handled by acpi, launch /etc/acpi/default.sh. And in /etc/acpi/default.sh, check for the lid event. It should look like this: [...] case $group in [...] lid) /etc/acpi/screen_off.sh /tmp/screen_off 21 [...] where screen_off.sh is the script I sent you in my previous mail. HTH, Greg On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:58 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: For some reason, the script is not getting called when I press the button. That is not to say that the system doesn't recognize it - if I set KDE to put the system in stand-by when the lid is closed, it very well will. But as I said earlier, that's not what I want - I just want to turn on/off the monitor. I know kacpid is running...but I don't think acpid is...at least, when I tried /etc/init.d/acpid start it complained: * Starting acpid ... acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy Ben - Original Message From: Gregory SACRE gregory.sa...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:57:31 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close... This is the script I am using. It is spawned by the default.sh from /etc/acpi: -- SCRIPT START -- # default display on current host export XAUTHORITY=/home/your_user/.Xauthority DISPLAY=:0.0 # find out if monitor is on STATUS=`cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state` logger monitor: $STATUS # find out if DPMS is enabled DPMS=`xset -display $DISPLAY -q | grep -e 'DPMS is'` logger dpms: $DPMS # enable DPMS if disabled if [ $DPMS == DPMS is Disabled ] then logger Enabling DPMS ... xset -display $DISPLAY +dpms fi if [ `echo $STATUS | grep -i closed | wc -l` -eq 1 ] then logger [`date`] Turning display OFF xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force off else logger [`date`] Turning display ON # shows up in log xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force on# turn monitor on xset -display $DISPLAY s activate # un-blank monitor fi #clean up unset STATUS unset DPMS # comment this line out if you're manually running this script from a shell (put a # in front of it) unset DISPLAY exit 0 -- SCRIPT STOP -- Change the your_user variable. I had also to set xscreensaver to switch off my monitor instead of blanking it, because I think (not sure) that xscreensaver was switching on my monitor when it was supposed to start the screensaver (as after a while, my monitor was switched back on, and as I didn't see that happening since my xscreensaver modification, I can only assume that was the problem). HTH, Greg On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running a Dell D600, and I've located a number of tools for it but I am not seeing anything related to when I close the lid. Since I got Gentoo running on it, the Monitor continues running when I close the lid. I've found several sources for doing something as an ACPI event, which seems to be the right method. I can toggle the button with the lid open and cat /etc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state and see it change between 'open' and 'closed'; and I know I could write myself a little script do something like calling radeontool to turn off the backlight, but I'd like to find a more official method. I mostly run KDE 3.5 (I'll go to KDE4 when I can...once portage 2.2 comes out and all), but I didn't see anything for a 'turn off monitor on lid close' setting (preferrably root controlled so that it affects all users). The only thing I can find is a the standby/suspend/shutdown/logoff, system performance, and CPU throttling. I don't really want to do any of that - just put the monitor into stand-by, not necessarily the whole system. Any how...I'd really like to get this working. TIA, Ben In... /etc/acpi/default.sh there's a comment (with commented code you can use following it)... # if your laptop doesnt turn on/off the display via hardware # switch and instead just generates an acpi event, you can force # X to turn off the display via dpms. note you will have to run # 'xhost +local:0' so root can access the X DISPLAY. if radeontool or something will allow you to disable the display even when you aren't
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
Cool. Thanks. That looks like it should solve the issue. Ben - Original Message From: Gregory SACRE gregory.sa...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:32:32 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close... I've googled a bit and found these two things: [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/175464 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/51591 They both refer to problems with hald and acpid entering in conflict. Check if you are using hald. If you are, try stopping it and starting acpid to see if it still gives you the problem. Concerning the fact that the script isn't called, you have to check in your /etc/acpi/event/default. Make sure that you have lines such as: event=.* action=/etc/acpi/default.sh %e Basically, it says that for any event handled by acpi, launch /etc/acpi/default.sh. And in /etc/acpi/default.sh, check for the lid event. It should look like this: [...] case $group in [...] lid) /etc/acpi/screen_off.sh /tmp/screen_off 21 [...] where screen_off.sh is the script I sent you in my previous mail. HTH, Greg On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 4:58 AM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: For some reason, the script is not getting called when I press the button. That is not to say that the system doesn't recognize it - if I set KDE to put the system in stand-by when the lid is closed, it very well will. But as I said earlier, that's not what I want - I just want to turn on/off the monitor. I know kacpid is running...but I don't think acpid is...at least, when I tried /etc/init.d/acpid start it complained: * Starting acpid ... acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy Ben - Original Message From: Gregory SACRE gregory.sa...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:57:31 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close... This is the script I am using. It is spawned by the default.sh from /etc/acpi: -- SCRIPT START -- # default display on current host export XAUTHORITY=/home/your_user/.Xauthority DISPLAY=:0.0 # find out if monitor is on STATUS=`cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state` logger monitor: $STATUS # find out if DPMS is enabled DPMS=`xset -display $DISPLAY -q | grep -e 'DPMS is'` logger dpms: $DPMS # enable DPMS if disabled if [ $DPMS == DPMS is Disabled ] then logger Enabling DPMS ... xset -display $DISPLAY +dpms fi if [ `echo $STATUS | grep -i closed | wc -l` -eq 1 ] then logger [`date`] Turning display OFF xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force off else logger [`date`] Turning display ON # shows up in log xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force on# turn monitor on xset -display $DISPLAY s activate # un-blank monitor fi #clean up unset STATUS unset DPMS # comment this line out if you're manually running this script from a shell (put a # in front of it) unset DISPLAY exit 0 -- SCRIPT STOP -- Change the your_user variable. I had also to set xscreensaver to switch off my monitor instead of blanking it, because I think (not sure) that xscreensaver was switching on my monitor when it was supposed to start the screensaver (as after a while, my monitor was switched back on, and as I didn't see that happening since my xscreensaver modification, I can only assume that was the problem). HTH, Greg On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running a Dell D600, and I've located a number of tools for it but I am not seeing anything related to when I close the lid. Since I got Gentoo running on it, the Monitor continues running when I close the lid. I've found several sources for doing something as an ACPI event, which seems to be the right method. I can toggle the button with the lid open and cat /etc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state and see it change between 'open' and 'closed'; and I know I could write myself a little script do something like calling radeontool to turn off the backlight, but I'd like to find a more official method. I mostly run KDE 3.5 (I'll go to KDE4 when I can...once portage 2.2 comes out and all), but I didn't see anything for a 'turn off monitor on lid close' setting (preferrably root controlled so that it affects all users). The only thing I can find is a the standby/suspend/shutdown/logoff, system performance, and CPU throttling. I don't really want to do any of that - just put the monitor into stand-by, not necessarily the whole system. Any how...I'd really like to get this working. TIA, Ben In... /etc/acpi/default.sh there's a comment (with commented code you can use following it)... # if your laptop doesnt turn on/off the display via hardware # switch
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
Hi BRM wrote: I mostly run KDE 3.5 (I'll go to KDE4 when I can...once portage 2.2 comes out and all) There's no need to wait for Portage 2.2 in order to install KDE 4, 2.1.6.4 also seems to support EAPI 2. Gian
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 02:14 -0500, Joshua Murphy wrote: if radeontool or something will allow you to disable the display even when you aren't in X, or without proper access to the display (like xset requires) you might be able to even escape needing that xhost setting. No way of testing it at all myself though. I use the dpms feature of sys-apps/vbetool to control the state of the display from a shell script called by acpid. It works even when X is not running and does not need access to the X display if X is running. Also, it works with graphics cards from multiple vendors, as it uses VESA extensions. From personal experience, I know it works with the Intel graphics chipset in my laptop (x86) and also with the Nvidia graphics card in my desktop (amd64). The latter does not have a lid to close, of course, but vbetool can still turn off the display. --Brandon Vargo
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
This is the script I am using. It is spawned by the default.sh from /etc/acpi: -- SCRIPT START -- # default display on current host export XAUTHORITY=/home/your_user/.Xauthority DISPLAY=:0.0 # find out if monitor is on STATUS=`cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state` logger monitor: $STATUS # find out if DPMS is enabled DPMS=`xset -display $DISPLAY -q | grep -e 'DPMS is'` logger dpms: $DPMS # enable DPMS if disabled if [ $DPMS == DPMS is Disabled ] then logger Enabling DPMS ... xset -display $DISPLAY +dpms fi if [ `echo $STATUS | grep -i closed | wc -l` -eq 1 ] then logger [`date`] Turning display OFF xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force off else logger [`date`] Turning display ON # shows up in log xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force on# turn monitor on xset -display $DISPLAY s activate # un-blank monitor fi #clean up unset STATUS unset DPMS # comment this line out if you're manually running this script from a shell (put a # in front of it) unset DISPLAY exit 0 -- SCRIPT STOP -- Change the your_user variable. I had also to set xscreensaver to switch off my monitor instead of blanking it, because I think (not sure) that xscreensaver was switching on my monitor when it was supposed to start the screensaver (as after a while, my monitor was switched back on, and as I didn't see that happening since my xscreensaver modification, I can only assume that was the problem). HTH, Greg On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running a Dell D600, and I've located a number of tools for it but I am not seeing anything related to when I close the lid. Since I got Gentoo running on it, the Monitor continues running when I close the lid. I've found several sources for doing something as an ACPI event, which seems to be the right method. I can toggle the button with the lid open and cat /etc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state and see it change between 'open' and 'closed'; and I know I could write myself a little script do something like calling radeontool to turn off the backlight, but I'd like to find a more official method. I mostly run KDE 3.5 (I'll go to KDE4 when I can...once portage 2.2 comes out and all), but I didn't see anything for a 'turn off monitor on lid close' setting (preferrably root controlled so that it affects all users). The only thing I can find is a the standby/suspend/shutdown/logoff, system performance, and CPU throttling. I don't really want to do any of that - just put the monitor into stand-by, not necessarily the whole system. Any how...I'd really like to get this working. TIA, Ben In... /etc/acpi/default.sh there's a comment (with commented code you can use following it)... # if your laptop doesnt turn on/off the display via hardware # switch and instead just generates an acpi event, you can force # X to turn off the display via dpms. note you will have to run # 'xhost +local:0' so root can access the X DISPLAY. if radeontool or something will allow you to disable the display even when you aren't in X, or without proper access to the display (like xset requires) you might be able to even escape needing that xhost setting. No way of testing it at all myself though. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
For some reason, the script is not getting called when I press the button. That is not to say that the system doesn't recognize it - if I set KDE to put the system in stand-by when the lid is closed, it very well will. But as I said earlier, that's not what I want - I just want to turn on/off the monitor. I know kacpid is running...but I don't think acpid is...at least, when I tried /etc/init.d/acpid start it complained: * Starting acpid ... acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy Ben - Original Message From: Gregory SACRE gregory.sa...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:57:31 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close... This is the script I am using. It is spawned by the default.sh from /etc/acpi: -- SCRIPT START -- # default display on current host export XAUTHORITY=/home/your_user/.Xauthority DISPLAY=:0.0 # find out if monitor is on STATUS=`cat /proc/acpi/button/lid/LID0/state` logger monitor: $STATUS # find out if DPMS is enabled DPMS=`xset -display $DISPLAY -q | grep -e 'DPMS is'` logger dpms: $DPMS # enable DPMS if disabled if [ $DPMS == DPMS is Disabled ] then logger Enabling DPMS ... xset -display $DISPLAY +dpms fi if [ `echo $STATUS | grep -i closed | wc -l` -eq 1 ] then logger [`date`] Turning display OFF xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force off else logger [`date`] Turning display ON # shows up in log xset -display $DISPLAY dpms force on# turn monitor on xset -display $DISPLAY s activate # un-blank monitor fi #clean up unset STATUS unset DPMS # comment this line out if you're manually running this script from a shell (put a # in front of it) unset DISPLAY exit 0 -- SCRIPT STOP -- Change the your_user variable. I had also to set xscreensaver to switch off my monitor instead of blanking it, because I think (not sure) that xscreensaver was switching on my monitor when it was supposed to start the screensaver (as after a while, my monitor was switched back on, and as I didn't see that happening since my xscreensaver modification, I can only assume that was the problem). HTH, Greg On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running a Dell D600, and I've located a number of tools for it but I am not seeing anything related to when I close the lid. Since I got Gentoo running on it, the Monitor continues running when I close the lid. I've found several sources for doing something as an ACPI event, which seems to be the right method. I can toggle the button with the lid open and cat /etc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state and see it change between 'open' and 'closed'; and I know I could write myself a little script do something like calling radeontool to turn off the backlight, but I'd like to find a more official method. I mostly run KDE 3.5 (I'll go to KDE4 when I can...once portage 2.2 comes out and all), but I didn't see anything for a 'turn off monitor on lid close' setting (preferrably root controlled so that it affects all users). The only thing I can find is a the standby/suspend/shutdown/logoff, system performance, and CPU throttling. I don't really want to do any of that - just put the monitor into stand-by, not necessarily the whole system. Any how...I'd really like to get this working. TIA, Ben In... /etc/acpi/default.sh there's a comment (with commented code you can use following it)... # if your laptop doesnt turn on/off the display via hardware # switch and instead just generates an acpi event, you can force # X to turn off the display via dpms. note you will have to run # 'xhost +local:0' so root can access the X DISPLAY. if radeontool or something will allow you to disable the display even when you aren't in X, or without proper access to the display (like xset requires) you might be able to even escape needing that xhost setting. No way of testing it at all myself though. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
[gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
I'm running a Dell D600, and I've located a number of tools for it but I am not seeing anything related to when I close the lid. Since I got Gentoo running on it, the Monitor continues running when I close the lid. I've found several sources for doing something as an ACPI event, which seems to be the right method. I can toggle the button with the lid open and cat /etc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state and see it change between 'open' and 'closed'; and I know I could write myself a little script do something like calling radeontool to turn off the backlight, but I'd like to find a more official method. I mostly run KDE 3.5 (I'll go to KDE4 when I can...once portage 2.2 comes out and all), but I didn't see anything for a 'turn off monitor on lid close' setting (preferrably root controlled so that it affects all users). The only thing I can find is a the standby/suspend/shutdown/logoff, system performance, and CPU throttling. I don't really want to do any of that - just put the monitor into stand-by, not necessarily the whole system. Any how...I'd really like to get this working. TIA, Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop Lid Close...
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 8:24 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm running a Dell D600, and I've located a number of tools for it but I am not seeing anything related to when I close the lid. Since I got Gentoo running on it, the Monitor continues running when I close the lid. I've found several sources for doing something as an ACPI event, which seems to be the right method. I can toggle the button with the lid open and cat /etc/acpi/button/lid/LID/state and see it change between 'open' and 'closed'; and I know I could write myself a little script do something like calling radeontool to turn off the backlight, but I'd like to find a more official method. I mostly run KDE 3.5 (I'll go to KDE4 when I can...once portage 2.2 comes out and all), but I didn't see anything for a 'turn off monitor on lid close' setting (preferrably root controlled so that it affects all users). The only thing I can find is a the standby/suspend/shutdown/logoff, system performance, and CPU throttling. I don't really want to do any of that - just put the monitor into stand-by, not necessarily the whole system. Any how...I'd really like to get this working. TIA, Ben In... /etc/acpi/default.sh there's a comment (with commented code you can use following it)... # if your laptop doesnt turn on/off the display via hardware # switch and instead just generates an acpi event, you can force # X to turn off the display via dpms. note you will have to run # 'xhost +local:0' so root can access the X DISPLAY. if radeontool or something will allow you to disable the display even when you aren't in X, or without proper access to the display (like xset requires) you might be able to even escape needing that xhost setting. No way of testing it at all myself though. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
[gentoo-user] laptop internal fan
I have a Sony VGN-FE880E and the fans don't run no matter how hot the laptop gets. I used to run Vista on this, and it worked fine. I don't recall ever having the fans active under Gentoo though. Is there anything I missed emerge-ing?
[gentoo-user] Laptop fails boot on battery
I have an Asus Z92F laptop - a modification of Asus A6F model ICH7 chipset CoreDuo T2250 1,5GB DDR2 Intel 950 graphics ATA100 HD 80GB My problem with it is that it fails to boot into linux when working only on battery. When I plug the power supply and do a fresh boot kernel loads properly. Boot proces freezes when kernel enumerates block devices, it is unable to identify my hard drive. I've been trying with different kernel versions (2.6.20 - 2.6.24), and kernel settings - no luck - the only way to boot into linux is to connect to power supply. I'll appreciate any advice -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
My Windows Vista laptop ate the big one from M$ and died under the weight of Windows Update. The hardware seems to check out fine overnight so I'm going to finally do dual boot on this machine like I wanted to when I bought it. Data: 80GB hard drive 2GB DRAM Questions: 1) What's the recommended order to install dual boot today. I prefer to go Gentoo first, XP second. Any issues? 2) What recommendations do folks have about splitting an 80GB drive up. I'm thinking of maybe 50-60GB for Gentoo, followed by Win XP using 20-30GB at the end of the drive. Partitions? I'm considering: sda1 - /boot = 50MB sda2 - swap (unsure whether I should dedicate 4GB to this. That's 5% of my drive and I won't likely ever use all of 2GB or RAM.) sda3 - /var = 2GB sda4 ==extended sda5 - / balance of Linux side, say 55GB sda6 == Windows drive C: Any and all comments and ideas welcomed. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
On Friday 2 May 2008, 18:41, Mark Knecht wrote: Data: 80GB hard drive 2GB DRAM Questions: 1) What's the recommended order to install dual boot today. I prefer to go Gentoo first, XP second. Any issues? Yes. XP will blow away the MBR and replace it with its own MBR, so, to be able to boot linux again, you'll have to boot with a livecd, chroot, and re-install grub (or lilo). On the other hand, if you install windows first, and linux last, you will have no problems when you'll have to configure grub: just add another entry for booting a non-linux OS. 2) What recommendations do folks have about splitting an 80GB drive up. I'm thinking of maybe 50-60GB for Gentoo, followed by Win XP using 20-30GB at the end of the drive. Partitions? I'm considering: sda1 - /boot = 50MB sda2 - swap (unsure whether I should dedicate 4GB to this. That's 5% of my drive and I won't likely ever use all of 2GB or RAM.) sda3 - /var = 2GB sda4 ==extended sda5 - / balance of Linux side, say 55GB sda6 == Windows drive C: Any and all comments and ideas welcomed. Any particular reason to put windows at the end of the drive? This should however not be a problem, it you partition the space at the beginning of the disk *before* installing XP (eg, doing (c)fdisk from a livecd). On my laptop, I partitioned as follows: hda1 - windows (23GB) hda2 - extended hda5 - /boot (50MB) hda6 - swap (2GB) hda7 - /home (45GB) hda8 - / (remaining space, ~10GB) I don't need a separate /var. Do you have special requirements to keep it separated? On the other hand, I like to use a dedicated partition for /home. This is useful because you can share your home folder among different distros (in case you have more than one installed), and, more important, if you need you can wipe / and reinstall without touching /home (probably saving /etc and something else beforehand if you want...but still quicker than backing up several GB of data, which you are forced to do if you have /home on /). -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
On Friday 02 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: My Windows Vista laptop ate the big one from M$ and died under the weight of Windows Update. The hardware seems to check out fine overnight so I'm going to finally do dual boot on this machine like I wanted to when I bought it. Data: 80GB hard drive 2GB DRAM Questions: 1) What's the recommended order to install dual boot today. I prefer to go Gentoo first, XP second. Any issues? All of this is mostly my own viewpoint from experience. There may be other ways: Other way round. Windows operating systems have a nasty habit of assuming they are the only system on the machine and merrily trash everything in sight for their own nefarious purposes. Then they overwrite any existing bootloader. I do this: Install XP. If you can get it to limit the partition size it uses, so much the better Resize windows partition downwards with Linux LiveCD. Most recent ones support this. Install Linux and set up a chainloader as normal in grub to boot windows Finally boot Windows and let it do what it wants with the partitions that need checking. This is expected behaviour caused by the downward resize 2) What recommendations do folks have about splitting an 80GB drive up. I'm thinking of maybe 50-60GB for Gentoo, followed by Win XP using 20-30GB at the end of the drive. Partitions? I'm considering: sda1 - /boot = 50MB sda2 - swap (unsure whether I should dedicate 4GB to this. That's 5% of my drive and I won't likely ever use all of 2GB or RAM.) sda3 - /var = 2GB sda4 ==extended sda5 - / balance of Linux side, say 55GB sda6 == Windows drive C: Again, you have to take account of windows brain-deadedness and the even greater braindeadedness of windows administrators. They don't expect boot partitions I would allocate as little as possible for windows itself. Say 10G, which allows for the OS plus it's virtual memory file plus other cache stuff From sda2 onwards, lay out your partitions as for a regular Linux installation. Use your own preferences for swap, lvm, filesystems etc. Being able to share data between both OSes is useful, so leave the most space possible for data: You have two options: FAT32. This is gross and gives you no security. It's also the easiest as both OSes support it out the box. Ext3/ReiserFS: Better solution security-wise but requires some setup. You have to download and install windows drivers from sourceforge. There's a third option - use the ntfs-ng driver in Linux. It seems just silly to use this for your main data storage though. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
Am Freitag, 2. Mai 2008 schrieb Mark Knecht: My Windows Vista laptop ate the big one from M$ and died under the weight of Windows Update. The hardware seems to check out fine overnight so I'm going to finally do dual boot on this machine like I wanted to when I bought it. Data: 80GB hard drive 2GB DRAM Questions: 1) What's the recommended order to install dual boot today. I prefer to go Gentoo first, XP second. Any issues? Dunno. All machines I ever setup as dual boot had Windows pre-installed, so I can only say: There are no issues when installing Windows first. 2) What recommendations do folks have about splitting an 80GB drive up. I'm thinking of maybe 50-60GB for Gentoo, followed by Win XP using 20-30GB at the end of the drive. Partitions? I'm considering: sda1 - /boot = 50MB sda2 - swap (unsure whether I should dedicate 4GB to this. That's 5% of my drive and I won't likely ever use all of 2GB or RAM.) sda3 - /var = 2GB sda4 ==extended sda5 - / balance of Linux side, say 55GB sda6 == Windows drive C: Any and all comments and ideas welcomed. Here they are: I mostly keep 20G for Windows, but it could well be 10 :-) My setup: sda1 - Windows sda2 - /boot, ext2, 32m. sda3 - /, xfs, 256m (Setting up this way frees you from using initramfs) sda4 - LVM, for everything else. LVM Setup (one volume group having the machine name in its name, like /dev/machine-name_vg00/volume, with volume being: usr - /usr, xfs, starting with 3G, growing on demand var - /var, xfs, 1G opt - /opt, xfs, 1G johndoe - /home/johndoe, xfs, size depends overlays - /gentoo/overlays, xfs, 1G (portage tree and overlays) build - /gentoo/build, xfs, size depends (up to 6G if you want to build OOo) distfiles - /gentoo/distfiles, xfs, 2G swap - swap, swap, 2G (optional) whatever you need in addition. You wrote this is a laptop, so if you consider encrypting the volumes (incl. /) you need an initramfs anyway, which means you could also put / on a logical volume (in which case the above would change to: sda3 - LVM and root - /, xfs, 256m). HTH... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
Hi, On linux-2.6.25 NTFS write support is finally stable... CONFIG_NTFS_FS=y CONFIG_NTFS_RW=y No need to go FAT anymore... Cheers, Sandro -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 02 May 2008, Mark Knecht wrote: My Windows Vista laptop ate the big one from M$ and died under the weight of Windows Update. The hardware seems to check out fine overnight so I'm going to finally do dual boot on this machine like I wanted to when I bought it. Data: 80GB hard drive 2GB DRAM Questions: 1) What's the recommended order to install dual boot today. I prefer to go Gentoo first, XP second. Any issues? All of this is mostly my own viewpoint from experience. There may be other ways: Other way round. Windows operating systems have a nasty habit of assuming they are the only system on the machine and merrily trash everything in sight for their own nefarious purposes. Then they overwrite any existing bootloader. I do this: Install XP. If you can get it to limit the partition size it uses, so much the better Resize windows partition downwards with Linux LiveCD. Most recent ones support this. Install Linux and set up a chainloader as normal in grub to boot windows Finally boot Windows and let it do what it wants with the partitions that need checking. This is expected behaviour caused by the downward resize 2) What recommendations do folks have about splitting an 80GB drive up. I'm thinking of maybe 50-60GB for Gentoo, followed by Win XP using 20-30GB at the end of the drive. Partitions? I'm considering: sda1 - /boot = 50MB sda2 - swap (unsure whether I should dedicate 4GB to this. That's 5% of my drive and I won't likely ever use all of 2GB or RAM.) sda3 - /var = 2GB sda4 ==extended sda5 - / balance of Linux side, say 55GB sda6 == Windows drive C: Again, you have to take account of windows brain-deadedness and the even greater braindeadedness of windows administrators. They don't expect boot partitions I would allocate as little as possible for windows itself. Say 10G, which allows for the OS plus it's virtual memory file plus other cache stuff From sda2 onwards, lay out your partitions as for a regular Linux installation. Use your own preferences for swap, lvm, filesystems etc. Being able to share data between both OSes is useful, so leave the most space possible for data: You have two options: FAT32. This is gross and gives you no security. It's also the easiest as both OSes support it out the box. Ext3/ReiserFS: Better solution security-wise but requires some setup. You have to download and install windows drivers from sourceforge. There's a third option - use the ntfs-ng driver in Linux. It seems just silly to use this for your main data storage though. First, thanks to everyone for the quick answers. 1) I'll go with Windows first. That's relatively fast and if I run into hardware problems it will show up more quickly which is good. Saves me the time of doing the Gentoo install and then finding issues. 2) If I do Windows first then /dev/sda1 will be NTFS. Does this change how I install grub? I'm a little fuzzy as to where the MBR is. Is it in the first partition or in a special area by itself? The commands from the install guide is this: livecd conf.d # grub grub root (hd0,0) grub setup (hd0) quit I presume I'll use grub root(hd0,4) to point at my root and still use grub setup (hd0) to get grub installed into the MBR? Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
Am Freitag, 2. Mai 2008 schrieb Mark Knecht: I presume I'll use grub root(hd0,4) to point at my root and still use That should be grub's root (/boot), NOT linux' (/), means (hd0,1) if /boot is sda2. grub setup (hd0) to get grub installed into the MBR? That's correct. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Freitag, 2. Mai 2008 schrieb Mark Knecht: I presume I'll use grub root(hd0,4) to point at my root and still use That should be grub's root (/boot), NOT linux' (/), means (hd0,1) if /boot is sda2. grub setup (hd0) to get grub installed into the MBR? That's correct. Bye... Dirk Thanks Dirk. Windows is nearly installed so I'll move on to Gentoo in the next hour or so. I went with a 10G NTFS partition and will use the rest for Gentoo. I've been using a Windows etx3 driver to access Linux partitions so I'll do that here and set up a common personal data area for both environments where I can keep my files. I've also got about 8 external 1394 and USB drives so if I need more of anything I can always plug one of them in. I really appreciate everyone's inputs. Thanks! Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:01 AM, Etaoin Shrdlu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP: sda1 - /boot = 50MB sda2 - swap (unsure whether I should dedicate 4GB to this. That's 5% of my drive and I won't likely ever use all of 2GB or RAM.) sda3 - /var = 2GB sda4 ==extended sda5 - / balance of Linux side, say 55GB sda6 == Windows drive C: Any and all comments and ideas welcomed. Any particular reason to put windows at the end of the drive? This should however not be a problem, it you partition the space at the beginning of the disk *before* installing XP (eg, doing (c)fdisk from a livecd). On my laptop, I partitioned as follows: hda1 - windows (23GB) hda2 - extended hda5 - /boot (50MB) hda6 - swap (2GB) hda7 - /home (45GB) hda8 - / (remaining space, ~10GB) I don't need a separate /var. Do you have special requirements to keep it separated? On the other hand, I like to use a dedicated partition for /home. This is useful because you can share your home folder among different distros (in case you have more than one installed), and, more important, if you need you can wipe / and reinstall without touching /home (probably saving /etc and something else beforehand if you want...but still quicker than backing up several GB of data, which you are forced to do if you have /home on /). Great inputs. I'm going to use a 10GB partition for /home, a 40GB partition for data shared with XP, and a 1.3GB /var partition. My reason for keeping /var on it's own is that I sometimes run into programs that spew so much stuff into /var that they will fill up the partition. If that happens then I cannot log into X until I clean it up. It's just what I do. I put in a 2GB swap partition. It's not 2x memory but I really think it's unlikely that I'll need it. If I do then I'll size down the data sharing partition which I'm putting at the end of the drive and put it out there. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Sandro Hannemann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, On linux-2.6.25 NTFS write support is finally stable... CONFIG_NTFS_FS=y CONFIG_NTFS_RW=y No need to go FAT anymore... Cheers, Sandro I'll keep that in mind. Thanks. However that's not on the 2007.0 install CD so it will get enabled after I get the machine built. Thanks, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop dual-boot rebuild - disk partition questions
On Friday 02 May 2008, Sandro Hannemann wrote: Hi, On linux-2.6.25 NTFS write support is finally stable... CONFIG_NTFS_FS=y CONFIG_NTFS_RW=y No need to go FAT anymore... Not quite. It's not ntfs-ng, it's the same old ntfs write support that's been there for ages, and it's *partial* write support. From fs/Kconfig line 836: config NTFS_RW bool NTFS write support depends on NTFS_FS help This enables the partial, but safe, write support in the NTFS driver. The only supported operation is overwriting existing files, without changing the file length. No file or directory creation, deletion or renaming is possible. Note only non-resident files can be written to so you may find that some very small files (500 bytes or so) cannot be written to. While we cannot guarantee that it will not damage any data, we have so far not received a single report where the driver would have damaged someones data so we assume it is perfectly safe to use. Note: While write support is safe in this version (a rewrite from scratch of the NTFS support), it should be noted that the old NTFS write support, included in Linux 2.5.10 and before (since 1997), is not safe. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
| My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. The laptop has stopped freezing now. Not sure what was going on. Thanks a lot for all the help and I'll refer back if I need to. - Grant Do you recall what you did? Recompile a package? Blow out some dust bunnies? Cross your toes? I believe it stopped freezing after it's periodic ext3 filesystem check after a reboot, but it didn't report any type of error after the check. Another possibility was upgrading to xscreensaver-5.05 from 5.04. Overall I'm puzzled but happy. - Grant Dale -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Grant wrote: Dale said this part. o_O Do you recall what you did? Recompile a package? Blow out some dust bunnies? Cross your toes? I believe it stopped freezing after it's periodic ext3 filesystem check after a reboot, but it didn't report any type of error after the check. Another possibility was upgrading to xscreensaver-5.05 from 5.04. Overall I'm puzzled but happy. - Grant Dale Sounds good. At least if someone else runs into this and takes the time to search, they can find something to check/try before posting. Glad it is working for ya tho. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
| My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. The laptop has stopped freezing now. Not sure what was going on. Thanks a lot for all the help and I'll refer back if I need to. - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Grant wrote: | My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. The laptop has stopped freezing now. Not sure what was going on. Thanks a lot for all the help and I'll refer back if I need to. - Grant Do you recall what you did? Recompile a package? Blow out some dust bunnies? Cross your toes? Just curious. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph wrote: | On 03/31/08 09:26, Grant wrote: | My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes | and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there | is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How | do you troubleshoot something like this? | | - Grant | | Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. +1 to that. I had a laptop that was doing the exact same thing. I installed lm_sensors and saw that at rest my temp was generally 40C (that's with powersave enabled). When I compiled the temp would go up to 75C...I think the highest I ever got it was 77C.* A /little/ over 40 is too hot... *For the Americans (like me) the easy way for C - F is double it, subtract 10% and add 32. So the temps would be 104F, 167F and 171F. - -- Eric Martin PGP fingerprint = D1C4 086E DBB5 C18E 6FDA B215 6A25 7174 A941 3B9F -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8phDdheOldgSlQgRAuKcAKDcYnv7PuepF5no3Z74on/6wYUfIACgvWXz ETwrpz+31+rq0tB4UqSWCMY= =0div -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? - Grant It's a bit hard with a laptop but there are some things you can do. 1) Does it freeze under no load? Just boot it and wait. don't log in, etc. 2) Does it only boot once logged in? What's running? 3) From another machine can you ssh in and then watch from there? Is the laptop dead or is it just not responding to its own keyboard? If it's still alive what's in the log files? Probably there are lots more things to do but these are the sort of things I'd try first. Good luck, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
2008/3/31, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list Which logs didi you check? For sure you will get something there. Do you have syslog-ng running or something similar? laptop? arch? Di you tried to run a live cd, for example?
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:26:34AM -0700, Grant wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? The first thing to determine is that whether it is freezing of the user interface or the underlying kernel. For desktops I often compile the kernel with the option that it flashes the keyboard LEDs when it is panicking, so I can see at a glance that the omelette has hit the fan. So: a) This freezing behaviour, does it manifest only in X, or does it happen if you boot into a non-graphical environment? b) If both, is it possible to have your laptop on a private network with ssh/telnet listening? If so, please see if after the freezing behaviour, you can still telnet/ssh into the laptop? If you can, can you run top from the terminal and see if anything is just taking up 100% resource? Other things to check: c) could your laptop be overheating? d) is this a new phenomenon or something that has happened consistently since the dawn of time? i.e. did you update any software recently or is this something that just happened right out of the box with your spanking new hardware? e) If this is a spanking new machine, and if it comes with one of the bastard OSes pre-installed, does this also happen running that operating system? (Maybe you are due a refund?) HTH, W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Grant wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? There's a decent troubleshooting HOWTO on the wiki for stability. I'm not where I had it bookmarked but try to locate the thing and if you can't I'll send back the link. -- Steven Lembark +1 888 359 3508 Workhorse Computing 85-09 90th St [EMAIL PROTECTED] Woodhaven, NY 11421 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:36:40PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: The first thing to determine is that whether it is freezing of the user interface or the underlying kernel. For desktops I often compile the kernel with the option that it flashes the keyboard LEDs when it is panicking, so I can see at a glance that the omelette has hit the fan. On second thought, I am not sure if the keyboard flashing is optional... every desktop that I've come across that kernel panic'd did flash the LEDs, that and the fact the last time I built my desktop kernel is over a year ago makes me a non-authority on kernel options. W -- Willie W. Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] 408 Fine Hall, Department of Mathematics, Princeton University, Princeton A mathematician's reputation rests on the number of bad proofs he has given. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On 03/31/08 09:26, Grant wrote: My Gentoo laptop keeps freezing. It will stay up for about 30 minutes and then stop responding altogether. I've checked the logs but there is nothing informative there. I'm all up to date with packages. How do you troubleshoot something like this? - Grant Start with ls_sensors and monitor CPU and motherboard temp. -- #Joseph GPG KeyID: ED0E1FB7 -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
Willie Wong wrote: On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 12:36:40PM -0400, Willie Wong wrote: The first thing to determine is that whether it is freezing of the user interface or the underlying kernel. For desktops I often compile the kernel with the option that it flashes the keyboard LEDs when it is panicking, so I can see at a glance that the omelette has hit the fan. On second thought, I am not sure if the keyboard flashing is optional... every desktop that I've come across that kernel panic'd did flash the LEDs, that and the fact the last time I built my desktop kernel is over a year ago makes me a non-authority on kernel options. W I would like to know where this is to if it is a option. Never heard of this before. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop keeps freezing
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 09:31:50 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: 1) Does it freeze under no load? Just boot it and wait. don't log in, etc. I'd also try booting from a Knoppix CD to see if it still happens. It is doesn't, the problem is in software, not hardware. Running memtest86 wouldn't be a bad idea either. -- Neil Bothwick Do not merely believe in miracles; rely on them. * Finagle signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop: Thinkpad T43: Disks Very Slow Under Load, Were Fast in the Past
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I had problems with CFS too. Similar to the one's you describe. Under heavy disk/cpu-load (like emerge and updatedb in parallel) the system was unresponsive. I changed the scheduler back to anticipatory and the problem was gone. Interestingly i also have a thinkpad, X30 in my case. best Thomas fire-eyes wrote: | Andrey Falko wrote: | On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hello, | | I'm running gentoo on an IBM Thinkpad T43. In the past, disk access was | fine under load (CPU or disk). These days, the disk becomes painfully | slow under moderate to high CPU usage (such as compiling) or copying | more than a few MB. GUI's become almost totally unresponsive and at | times I have to down the system hard. | | So it seems it's some sort of a change in kernels compared to the past. | I have always run a vanilla kernel, manually configured and installed. | Right now I am running 2.6.24.3. | | The system uses an SATA disk drive. | | Here is the boot line in grub.conf: | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-stable root=/dev/sda4 rw hdc=noprobe | acpi_sleep=s3_bios panic=5 elevator=cfq nmi_watchdog=0 | | /boot/vmlinuz-stable being a symlink to the kernel I consider stable | within /boot/. I also have vmlinuz-last called by another grub entry if | I need it. | | Here is my kernel config: http://fire-eyes.org/t/config-2.6.24.3.txt | (may disappear in the future) | | I am looking for feedback into what may be causing this mess. It makes | for a very frustrating time using this laptop. | | What is the version of the kernel where you did not have issues? | 2.6.24 and 23 have a new CPU scheduler (CFS), which should work | better than the old one. It is possible that the new scheduler does | not suit your needs. | | Thanks for the reply. | | I do not recall, other than it was four or more months ago. Do you | happen to know what version of the kernel that scheduler showed up in? | Also, is that scheduler not irrelevant here as I was passing elevator=cfq? | | By the way, I did a little experimentation. I changed my scheduler to | deadline, and set preemption to desktop. Before the scheduler was cfq, | and the preemption to low-latency desktop. | | Things already feel snappier gui-wise, but I have yet to push the | disk/cpu to see what will happen. I believe it is at least the start of | improvements, however. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH0P8nrpEWPKIUt7MRAqXHAJ96MDsVC0xAwm2f/5uSWbQLxZLLsgCdELyO WnJkehZ+0MSsujfd1vaSrPY= =WA+M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop: Thinkpad T43: Disks Very Slow Under Load, Were Fast in the Past
Thomas Kahle wrote: Hi, I had problems with CFS too. Similar to the one's you describe. Under heavy disk/cpu-load (like emerge and updatedb in parallel) the system was unresponsive. I changed the scheduler back to anticipatory and the problem was gone. Interestingly i also have a thinkpad, X30 in my case. Curious. I will try antic. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop: Thinkpad T43: Disks Very Slow Under Load, Were Fast in the Past
maybe your partitions are near full? -- thing.
[gentoo-user] Laptop: Thinkpad T43: Disks Very Slow Under Load, Were Fast in the Past
Hello, I'm running gentoo on an IBM Thinkpad T43. In the past, disk access was fine under load (CPU or disk). These days, the disk becomes painfully slow under moderate to high CPU usage (such as compiling) or copying more than a few MB. GUI's become almost totally unresponsive and at times I have to down the system hard. So it seems it's some sort of a change in kernels compared to the past. I have always run a vanilla kernel, manually configured and installed. Right now I am running 2.6.24.3. The system uses an SATA disk drive. Here is the boot line in grub.conf: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-stable root=/dev/sda4 rw hdc=noprobe acpi_sleep=s3_bios panic=5 elevator=cfq nmi_watchdog=0 /boot/vmlinuz-stable being a symlink to the kernel I consider stable within /boot/. I also have vmlinuz-last called by another grub entry if I need it. Here is my kernel config: http://fire-eyes.org/t/config-2.6.24.3.txt (may disappear in the future) I am looking for feedback into what may be causing this mess. It makes for a very frustrating time using this laptop. Thank you! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop: Thinkpad T43: Disks Very Slow Under Load, Were Fast in the Past
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm running gentoo on an IBM Thinkpad T43. In the past, disk access was fine under load (CPU or disk). These days, the disk becomes painfully slow under moderate to high CPU usage (such as compiling) or copying more than a few MB. GUI's become almost totally unresponsive and at times I have to down the system hard. So it seems it's some sort of a change in kernels compared to the past. I have always run a vanilla kernel, manually configured and installed. Right now I am running 2.6.24.3. The system uses an SATA disk drive. Here is the boot line in grub.conf: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-stable root=/dev/sda4 rw hdc=noprobe acpi_sleep=s3_bios panic=5 elevator=cfq nmi_watchdog=0 /boot/vmlinuz-stable being a symlink to the kernel I consider stable within /boot/. I also have vmlinuz-last called by another grub entry if I need it. Here is my kernel config: http://fire-eyes.org/t/config-2.6.24.3.txt (may disappear in the future) I am looking for feedback into what may be causing this mess. It makes for a very frustrating time using this laptop. What is the version of the kernel where you did not have issues? 2.6.24 and 23 have a new CPU scheduler (CFS), which should work better than the old one. It is possible that the new scheduler does not suit your needs. Tell us the kernel version that work well for you, and we'll if it might be a regression of CFS in 24 or a possible weakness of CFS. Thank you! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop: Thinkpad T43: Disks Very Slow Under Load, Were Fast in the Past
Andrey Falko wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:38 PM, fire-eyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm running gentoo on an IBM Thinkpad T43. In the past, disk access was fine under load (CPU or disk). These days, the disk becomes painfully slow under moderate to high CPU usage (such as compiling) or copying more than a few MB. GUI's become almost totally unresponsive and at times I have to down the system hard. So it seems it's some sort of a change in kernels compared to the past. I have always run a vanilla kernel, manually configured and installed. Right now I am running 2.6.24.3. The system uses an SATA disk drive. Here is the boot line in grub.conf: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-stable root=/dev/sda4 rw hdc=noprobe acpi_sleep=s3_bios panic=5 elevator=cfq nmi_watchdog=0 /boot/vmlinuz-stable being a symlink to the kernel I consider stable within /boot/. I also have vmlinuz-last called by another grub entry if I need it. Here is my kernel config: http://fire-eyes.org/t/config-2.6.24.3.txt (may disappear in the future) I am looking for feedback into what may be causing this mess. It makes for a very frustrating time using this laptop. What is the version of the kernel where you did not have issues? 2.6.24 and 23 have a new CPU scheduler (CFS), which should work better than the old one. It is possible that the new scheduler does not suit your needs. Thanks for the reply. I do not recall, other than it was four or more months ago. Do you happen to know what version of the kernel that scheduler showed up in? Also, is that scheduler not irrelevant here as I was passing elevator=cfq? By the way, I did a little experimentation. I changed my scheduler to deadline, and set preemption to desktop. Before the scheduler was cfq, and the preemption to low-latency desktop. Things already feel snappier gui-wise, but I have yet to push the disk/cpu to see what will happen. I believe it is at least the start of improvements, however. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?
On 12/25/2007 8:56 AM Stroller said the following: On 25 Dec 2007, at 15:59, Drew Tomlinson wrote: ... I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that matters for displaying video). Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware? I can post my xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve performance. You should demonstrate that your xorg.conf is referencing the appropriate ATi driver. Stroller. Thank you for your reply. I'm not sure how to demonstrate other that pasting the relevant section xorg log: (II) LoadModule: fglrx (II) Loading /usr/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers//fglrx_drv.so (II) Module fglrx: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc. compiled for 7.1.0, module version = 8.43.2 Module class: X.Org Video Driver Is this sufficient? Thanks, Drew Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?
On 12/25/2007 9:49 AM András Csányi said the following: 2007/12/25, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board. lspci detects it as: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a bit jumpy as if the video hardware is not fast enough. Keeping the video smaller in a window produces much better results. As you might expect, the larger the video picture, the worse the jumpiness gets. Results are the same with both Totem and VLC. I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that matters for displaying video). Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware? I can post my xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve performance. Hi! I have this problem but i have another ATI inegrated card (01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]) The solution is the next: - use fglrx (you have to test the 3D rendering with fgl_fglxgears command) - use mplayer with -vo gl or -vo gl2 option (the gl and gl2 is opengl video output) I have fglrx and verified it works. I have not tried mplayer. Does mplayer work better than other players? I hope i can help you. András ps.: sorry my english :) Your English is good. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?
2007/12/29, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The solution is the next: - use fglrx (you have to test the 3D rendering with fgl_fglxgears command) - use mplayer with -vo gl or -vo gl2 option (the gl and gl2 is opengl video output) I have fglrx and verified it works. I have not tried mplayer. Does mplayer work better than other players? My opinion the mplayer is the best media player. I tryed gxine, vlc but the mplayer is the best for me. Look the man page (i think this is really big) and you will see the options. András -- - - -- Csanyi Andras -- http://sayusi.hu -- Sayusi Ando -- Bízzál Istenben és tartsd szárazon a puskaport!.-- Cromwell z� ��(��j)b� b�
[gentoo-user] Laptop ATI Integrated Video Performance?
I have a Gateway laptop with an integrated ATI graphics board. lspci detects it as: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] However when attempting to view a DVD at full screen, the display is a bit jumpy as if the video hardware is not fast enough. Keeping the video smaller in a window produces much better results. As you might expect, the larger the video picture, the worse the jumpiness gets. Results are the same with both Totem and VLC. I'm using x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.433 and have followed guides and verified direct rendering is enabled (however I don't know if that matters for displaying video). Is this the best I can expect for this video hardware? I can post my xorg.conf if there's a possibility that some tweak will improve performance. Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
