Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-12 Thread Covington, Chris
 Guess I could, just wanted to keep the SCSI's clean for data only...

The MBR doesn't use any space, and it won't alter your partitions in
anyway.  So to me it seems like the best route.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-12 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Monday 12 September 2005 03:34 pm, Covington, Chris wrote:
  Guess I could, just wanted to keep the SCSI's clean for data only...

 The MBR doesn't use any space, and it won't alter your partitions in
 anyway.  So to me it seems like the best route.

Trouble is when the SCSI is replaced and it is not thought of because the OS 
is on the IDE HD. For me it would be cleaner to boot with a floppy or CD and 
(even keep a couple of spare floppies). I have trouble remembering certian 
things, the location of the MBR on SCSI 0 would be one of those things.

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-12 Thread Covington, Chris
 Trouble is when the SCSI is replaced and it is not thought of because
the 
 OS is on the IDE HD. For me it would be cleaner to boot with a floppy
or 
 CD and (even keep a couple of spare floppies). I have trouble
remembering 
 certian things, the location of the MBR on SCSI 0 would be one of
those 
 things. 

Well it's just as hard to remember that the MBR is on the floppy or the
cdrom as it is on the SCSI disk.

If it's about remembering which SCSI disk, just run a cron job or init
script which installs the Grub MBR in all of your SCSI disks so you
won't have to worry about remembering.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-12 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
On Monday 12 September 2005 06:43 pm, Covington, Chris wrote:
  Trouble is when the SCSI is replaced and it is not thought of because

 the

  OS is on the IDE HD. For me it would be cleaner to boot with a floppy

 or

  CD and (even keep a couple of spare floppies). I have trouble

 remembering

  certian things, the location of the MBR on SCSI 0 would be one of

 those

  things.

 Well it's just as hard to remember that the MBR is on the floppy or the
 cdrom as it is on the SCSI disk.

 If it's about remembering which SCSI disk, just run a cron job or init
 script which installs the Grub MBR in all of your SCSI disks so you
 won't have to worry about remembering.
Thats an idea, although it isn't that hard remembering the mbr is on a floppy 
if there is one in teh machine, I don't think any of my other machines have a 
floppy in them ever, let alone at boot time...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-10 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
I got the smartStart, but it won't let me set up for IDE boot. When I try to 
set-up the BIOS it will let me change most settings but says this system does 
not support IDE HD. Hence I was think ing I would boot on a floppy and have 
it find the kernel and set them machine up to use the HD. It finds the HD 
during boot up but can't boot from it...

Mike

On Friday 09 September 2005 04:19 pm, Jamie Dobbs wrote:
 Most likely you need to get hold of a copy of the Comaq SmartStart CDs
 for this machine to set it up to boot from an IDE drive, this will also
 contain the Compaq Array Controller software which will enable you to
 set up the 'BIOS' on the smart controller card to tun the array in the
 way which you want to.
 Try the Compaq website and see if you can find something there.

 Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
 I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a
  file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold
  the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after
  installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh
  3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I
  assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to
  just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os?
 
 Does this make any sense to anyone?
 
 Mike

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Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-10 Thread Ted Ozolins
Michael W. Holdeman wrote:

I got the smartStart, but it won't let me set up for IDE boot. When I try to 
set-up the BIOS it will let me change most settings but says this system does 
not support IDE HD. Hence I was think ing I would boot on a floppy and have 
it find the kernel and set them machine up to use the HD. It finds the HD 
during boot up but can't boot from it...

Mike

On Friday 09 September 2005 04:19 pm, Jamie Dobbs wrote:
  

Most likely you need to get hold of a copy of the Comaq SmartStart CDs
for this machine to set it up to boot from an IDE drive, this will also
contain the Compaq Array Controller software which will enable you to
set up the 'BIOS' on the smart controller card to tun the array in the
way which you want to.
Try the Compaq website and see if you can find something there.

Michael W. Holdeman wrote:


I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a
file server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold
the OS so as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after
installing twice and messing around I find that the firmware in teh
3000's was not designed to support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I
assume it is that it just won't boot to it. How do I build a floppy to
just get the boot process tarted then look to teh HD for kernel and os?

Does this make any sense to anyone?

Mike
  


  

Have you looked to see if there is a bios/system upgrade available? We
use a Proliant 3000 as the main document/application server at work and
had to upgrade the bios/system in order to use ide. Been working great
since.

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[gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-09 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a file 
server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold the OS so 
as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after installing twice 
and messing around I find that the firmware in teh 3000's was not designed to 
support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I assume it is that it just won't boot 
to it. How do I build a floppy to just get the boot process tarted then look 
to teh HD for kernel and os?

Does this make any sense to anyone?

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Proliant 3000

2005-09-09 Thread Jamie Dobbs
Most likely you need to get hold of a copy of the Comaq SmartStart CDs 
for this machine to set it up to boot from an IDE drive, this will also 
contain the Compaq Array Controller software which will enable you to 
set up the 'BIOS' on the smart controller card to tun the array in the 
way which you want to.

Try the Compaq website and see if you can find something there.

Michael W. Holdeman wrote:

I have a Compaq Proliant 3000, w 6 18.2 SCSI disks I am building for a file 
server for my department. I have installed an IDE HD 40gig to hold the OS so 
as to reserve all the SCSI space for data. Problem is after installing twice 
and messing around I find that the firmware in teh 3000's was not designed to 
support IDE HD's. I can install to it, I assume it is that it just won't boot 
to it. How do I build a floppy to just get the boot process tarted then look 
to teh HD for kernel and os?


Does this make any sense to anyone?

Mike
 



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