Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:18:40 +0800 kwk...@hkbn.net wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:12:48 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Apr 23, 2012 1:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 22. April 2012, 19:52:16 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Just browsed the changelog of glibc-2.15: http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-03/msg00836.html When I read the NEWS section there with all that optimized stuff I wonder if it makes any sense to rebuild packages here after upgrading glibc? no, because it is a library. You make use of it anyway. What about statically linked packages? Rgds, Bless those who keeps on telling people there is no need to rebuild packages after glibc upgrade, for they must have not used pam or any other packages that uses dlopen(). To be fair, a complete rebuild of everything is a relatively huge task and usually a waste if done routinely. glibc is never downgraded in any sane system, only upgraded. The glibc ABI and API hardly ever take anything away, just add new stuff. Imagine if glibc behaved like boost wrt API changes shudder So leaving everything else intact after upgrading linux-headers and/or glibc gives a system that tends to do exactly what it did before and is in no way broken. Sure, one can rebuild all of world at one's leisure to take advantage of any new features those packages give, but it is not *required* This latest pam nonsense is a very rare event. I really don't feel like doing massive rebuilds routinely to maybe catch rare events... -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
Rebuilt everything. Congrats Am 23.04.2012 04:17 schrieb Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info: On Apr 23, 2012 1:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag,... What about statically linked packages? Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
Strange, never had problems in that regard. Am 23.04.2012 05:24 schrieb kwk...@hkbn.net: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:12:48 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Apr 23, 2012 1:09 A... Bless those who keeps on telling people there is no need to rebuild packages after glibc upgrade, for they must have not used pam or any other packages that uses dlopen(). Kerwin.
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
Am 23.04.2012 04:12, schrieb Pandu Poluan: On Apr 23, 2012 1:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com mailto:volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 22. April 2012, 19:52:16 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Just browsed the changelog of glibc-2.15: http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-03/msg00836.html When I read the NEWS section there with all that optimized stuff I wonder if it makes any sense to rebuild packages here after upgrading glibc? no, because it is a library. You make use of it anyway. What about statically linked packages? Rgds, Are there actually packages out there that do this? Maybe busybox with USE=static? BTW: Another reason for rebuilding (not in this case, but just to be complete) can be updates in template libraries like dev-libs/boost. Of course, this cannot happen for things written in plain C, unless we consider sys-kernel/linux-headers and friends, for example. Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:42:28 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Strange, never had problems in that regard. See, for example, the problem described in thread http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_264b8690e0ab67e3f55c0967cba101ec.xml from this list last November with glibc-2.14 upgrade, which I also encountered when upgrading my stable amd64. Maybe glibc-2.15 has improved, but I certainly won't risk it when the time comes. I'd rather spend (waste?) time to buy that peace of mind, rather than being locked out of my box. Kerwin. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
Am Montag, 23. April 2012, 06:31:31 schrieb Graham Murray: kwk...@hkbn.net writes: Bless those who keeps on telling people there is no need to rebuild packages after glibc upgrade, for they must have not used pam or any other packages that uses dlopen(). So which packages need to be rebuilt? none? if you see segfaults everywhere, rebuild. If apps fail to start, think about rebuilding. But until then, why waste the electricity? Owing to the initial non-availability of the patch file, glibc was the last package I built before rebooting. So far I have seen no problems. I can log in as both user and root, su works, X and KDE are running OK. glibc is normally very good at maintaining backward compatibility, using versioned symbols. -- #163933
[gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
Just browsed the changelog of glibc-2.15: http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-03/msg00836.html When I read the NEWS section there with all that optimized stuff I wonder if it makes any sense to rebuild packages here after upgrading glibc? Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
Am Sonntag, 22. April 2012, 19:52:16 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Just browsed the changelog of glibc-2.15: http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-03/msg00836.html When I read the NEWS section there with all that optimized stuff I wonder if it makes any sense to rebuild packages here after upgrading glibc? no, because it is a library. You make use of it anyway. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
Am 22.04.2012 20:05, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: no, because it is a library. You make use of it anyway. Ah, yes, sure ... thanks for the explanation.
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
On Apr 23, 2012 1:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 22. April 2012, 19:52:16 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Just browsed the changelog of glibc-2.15: http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-03/msg00836.html When I read the NEWS section there with all that optimized stuff I wonder if it makes any sense to rebuild packages here after upgrading glibc? no, because it is a library. You make use of it anyway. What about statically linked packages? Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:12:48 +0700 Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: On Apr 23, 2012 1:09 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 22. April 2012, 19:52:16 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: Just browsed the changelog of glibc-2.15: http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-03/msg00836.html When I read the NEWS section there with all that optimized stuff I wonder if it makes any sense to rebuild packages here after upgrading glibc? no, because it is a library. You make use of it anyway. What about statically linked packages? Rgds, Bless those who keeps on telling people there is no need to rebuild packages after glibc upgrade, for they must have not used pam or any other packages that uses dlopen(). Kerwin. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1
kwk...@hkbn.net writes: Bless those who keeps on telling people there is no need to rebuild packages after glibc upgrade, for they must have not used pam or any other packages that uses dlopen(). So which packages need to be rebuilt? Owing to the initial non-availability of the patch file, glibc was the last package I built before rebooting. So far I have seen no problems. I can log in as both user and root, su works, X and KDE are running OK. glibc is normally very good at maintaining backward compatibility, using versioned symbols.
