Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-16 Thread Philip Webb
090916 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Currently I am playing around with fluxbox. selection of applications in the application (root-) menu via keyboard. Only the first application can be selected via its first character. As I said in an earlier msg, you can navigate the menu with the arrow keys.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-15 Thread Mick
On Monday 14 September 2009, Thomas Kahle wrote: Hey, Since IceWM seems to be gone into hibernation phase I am looking for a replacement which should -- be widely configurable via ascii files -- be as far as possible controllable by keyboard -- be also useable with the mouse --

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 14 September 2009, Thomas Kahle wrote: Hey,  Since IceWM seems to be gone into hibernation phase I am looking for  a replacement which should  -- be widely configurable via ascii files  -- be as far as

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-15 Thread Jacob Todd
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ... -- NOT tiling May I ask why not tiling? unless you're doing office work (spreadsheats, powerpointers, money laundering and the like), the WIMP paradigm isn't efficient. -- Jake Todd // If it isn't broke, tweak

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-15 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ...  -- NOT tiling May I ask why not tiling? unless you're doing office work (spreadsheats, powerpointers, money laundering and the like), the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-15 Thread meino . cramer
Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com [09-09-16 03:55]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, ... -- NOT tiling May I ask why not tiling? Simply answer: I dont like it. :) mcc unless you're doing office work (spreadsheats, powerpointers, money

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-15 Thread meino . cramer
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [09-09-12 20:42]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses (...) or want session management. One thing, which is a must-have

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-14 Thread Willie Wong
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 01:34:27PM -0400, Penguin Lover Philip Webb squawked: 090912 Lars Gust?bel wrote: I've been using fvwm2 for years now ... I have a graphical system monitor on my third desktop ... Can you have multiple desktops with Fvwm ? I couldn't find anything about it in the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-14 Thread Thomas Kahle
Hey, Since IceWM seems to be gone into hibernation phase I am looking for a replacement which should -- be widely configurable via ascii files -- be as far as possible controllable by keyboard -- be also useable with the mouse -- no eye-candy -- not ugly -- NOT tiling --

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-13 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:34:27 -0400, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 090912 Lars Gustäbel wrote: I've been using fvwm2 for years now ... I have a graphical system monitor on my third desktop ... Can you have multiple desktops with Fvwm ? I couldn't find anything about it in the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-13 Thread Jesús Guerrero
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:52:40 -0500, forgottenwizard phrexianrea...@hushmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 02:55:34AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: forgottenwizard phrexianrea...@hushmail.com [09-09-13 02:12]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 01:37:45PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Sep

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-13 Thread Hazen Valliant-Saunders
I used to be partial to E17, too unstable, Xfce4 is nice, not too much overhead. GKRellm is nice, ther are others, but I'm more of a console jockey. 2009/9/13 Jesús Guerrero i92gu...@terra.es On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 22:52:40 -0500, forgottenwizard phrexianrea...@hushmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep

[gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses (...) or want session management. One thing, which is a must-have of windowmanagers I want to use is the possibility to control the windowmanager nearly completly with the keyboard (hotkeys

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread commo_puke
Xfce4 or fluxbox with some tweaking --Original Message-- From: meino.cra...@gmx.de To: Gentoo ReplyTo: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager Sent: Sep 12, 2009 8:40 AM Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
Subject: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager Sent: Sep 12, 2009 8:40 AM Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses (...) or want session management. One thing, which is a must-have of windowmanagers I want to use

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
090912 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want ... session management. a must-have of windowmanagers is to control nearly completly with the keyboard Since IceWM seems to be in hibernation I am looking for a replacement -- widely

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net [09-09-12 16:50]: 090912 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want ... session management. a must-have of windowmanagers is to control nearly completly with the keyboard Since IceWM seems to be in

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Lars Gustäbel
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I would like to hear from others what experiences they made with what windowmanagers. Hi! I've been using fvwm2 (http://fvwm.org) for years now and am quite happy with it. Although it may look old and strange at first (the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
Lars Gustäbel l...@gustaebel.de [09-09-12 18:52]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I would like to hear from others what experiences they made with what windowmanagers. Hi! I've been using fvwm2 (http://fvwm.org) for years now and am quite happy

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
090912 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net [09-09-12 16:50]: Fluxbox is your WM ! Yes! In IceWM I can type ALT-TAB, which pops up the application menu Or in other words: Starting applications does not involve the mouse. In/With fluxbox I again have to dive into

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
090912 Lars Gustäbel wrote: I've been using fvwm2 for years now ... I have a graphical system monitor on my third desktop ... Can you have multiple desktops with Fvwm ? I couldn't find anything about it in the manual dropped further investigation of Fvwm as a result. --

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 17:38:28 +0200 meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: One thing I really miss (hopefully only based on the lack of experience with the configuration of fluxbox): In IceWM I can type ALT-TAB, which pops up the application menu (so far I can use the key file in ~/.fluxbox to acchieve

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses (...) or want session management. One thing, which is a must-have of windowmanagers I want to use is the possibility to control the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Matthias Krebs
Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses (...) or want session management. One thing, which is a must-have of windowmanagers I want to use is the possibility to control the windowmanager nearly completly with the keyboard (hotkeys

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread pk
Philip Webb wrote: Can you have multiple desktops with Fvwm ? I couldn't find anything about it in the manual dropped further investigation of Fvwm as a result. Virtual desktops are part of the X window manager specification:

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Philip Webb
090912 pk wrote: Philip Webb wrote: Can you have multiple desktops with Fvwm ? Virtual desktops are part of the X window manager specification: http://standards.freedesktop.org/wm-spec/wm-spec-latest.html#id2505816 The application that handles the desktops are called a pager:

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread forgottenwizard
On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 01:37:45PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses (...) or want session management. One thing, which is a must-have

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread John H. Moe
Lars Gustbel wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 03:40:56PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: I would like to hear from others what experiences they made with what windowmanagers. Hi! I've been using fvwm2 (http://fvwm.org) for years now and am quite happy with it.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread Jacob Todd
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 09:30:49AM +1000, John H. Moe wrote: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head meta content=text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 http-equiv=Content-Type title/title /head body bgcolor=#ff text=#00 Lars Gustauml;bel wrote: blockquote

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread meino . cramer
forgottenwizard phrexianrea...@hushmail.com [09-09-13 02:12]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 01:37:45PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, for a long time I used IceWM as my windowmanager since I dont want to mimicry other OSses

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] In search of a good windowmanager

2009-09-12 Thread forgottenwizard
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 02:55:34AM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: forgottenwizard phrexianrea...@hushmail.com [09-09-13 02:12]: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 01:37:45PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 8:40 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, for a long time I