Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: [...] 2. when devs commit to ~arch, they tend to run ~arch on their test boxes. Issues are easy to spot and get fixed quickly. If you have a mixture of the two, then you have a combination that no-one

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say within the limits you describe, your advice is fine. But that's a theoretical

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:30 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Notes about what I think happened here: 1) I missed the message about running perl-cleaner so I had to do that. 2) I had a gcc build that didn't allow the profile to get set so emerge -1 gcc fixed that. 3) After that I

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: OK, so I've been pushing forward and finally I'm emerge -e @world clean. xfce still doesn't work right. It's in fact pretty unusable at the moment as it has no menus at all, but it's only a backup environment so I'm going

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Notes about what I think happened here: 1) I missed the message about running perl-cleaner so I had to do that. 2) I had a gcc build that

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Alex Schuster
Mark Knecht writes: One minor annoyance is that the task bar at the bottom is about 1/3 black on the left. Resolution is 1920x1080 so I'd guess about the first 800 pixels are painted the wrong color. The task bar still works, it just doesn't look right. I think I have the same problem,

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote: Mark Knecht writes:    One minor annoyance is that the task bar at the bottom is about 1/3 black on the left. Resolution is 1920x1080 so I'd guess about the first 800 pixels are painted the wrong color. The task bar

[gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht
...is not so good actually. Certainly not the way I'd want others to experience Gentoo. OK, the ~amd64 upgrade to @system was easy and relatively painless. The documents were fairly clear. There are things to learn, and old friends like rc-update and df look different, but it worked and didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
Are you merely ranting or asking for help? If the former, well, OK i Hear you. But I don't care. If the latter, then you need to provide info like logs, output etc. ~amd64 works like a charm for me here. On Monday 12 April 2010 13:57:39 Mark Knecht wrote: ...is not so good actually.

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 04:57:39AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: ...is not so good actually. Certainly not the way I'd want others to experience Gentoo. OK, the ~amd64 upgrade to @system was easy and relatively painless. The documents were fairly clear. There are things to learn, and old

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Are you merely ranting or asking for help? If the former, well, OK i Hear you. But I don't care. If the latter, then you need to provide info like logs, output etc. ~amd64 works like a charm for me here.

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:14 AM, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem zeera...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 04:57:39AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: ...is not so good actually. Certainly not the way I'd want others to experience Gentoo. OK, the ~amd64 upgrade to @system was easy and relatively

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread William Kenworthy
I am however documenting my experiences for others than come after me to this question of to ~amd64 or not ~amd64. Nothing more. It worked for Alan who is a __very__ experienced and capable person. It didn't work for Mark (at this point) who is a 10 year Gentoo user but __nothing__ more than

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:42 AM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I am however documenting my experiences for others than come after me to this question of to ~amd64 or not ~amd64. Nothing more. It worked for Alan who is a __very__ experienced and capable person. It didn't work for

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 12 April 2010 14:29:00 Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Are you merely ranting or asking for help? If the former, well, OK i Hear you. But I don't care. If the latter, then you need to provide info like logs,

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:29:00 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: It's certainly not working for me at this point but I'm not upset, mad, or anything like that. I'm asking a simple question. That's it. Except you didn't really ask a question, at least not in manner that could be answered. Posting the

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: ...is not so good actually. Certainly not the way I'd want others to experience Gentoo. OK, the ~amd64 upgrade to @system was easy and relatively painless. The documents were fairly clear. There are things to learn, and

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread KH
Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: [...] 2. when devs commit to ~arch, they tend to run ~arch on their test boxes. Issues are easy to spot and get fixed quickly. If you have a mixture of the two, then you have a combination that no-one but you is using, and it will not have been

Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...

2010-04-12 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not a gnome user but I can try this if you want (135 packages to emerge in my case), or if you have more specific info about which part doesn't build I can try only the specifics. I went ahead and emerged