[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008, deface wrote: The offsite backups, were actually on another server, on another link... inside the same company. if (InsideTheSameCompany == AtTheSameLocation) then ThoseWereNotOffsiteBackups = True end Kevin http://www.RawFedDogs.net http://www.WacoAgilityGroup.org Bruceville, TX Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes. Longum iter est per praecepta, breve et efficax per exempla!!!
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. Looking forward to the new site, and restoration of www.gentoo-portage.com, a site I find to be extremely useful. :- Ben - Original Message From: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:59:07 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help! On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 10/24/08, Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Here it opens. Perhaps try this: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ Liviu
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? The domain name is not down, it just doesn't point at the wiki. I'm looking at it now. But summary: everyone in this whole mess is at fault. No indication if and/or when the equipment will be rescued from coloc site; most recent content backup is from March; hosting providers bickering at each other and neither willing to help gentoo-wiki's admin get his data. Gentoo-portage should be up tommorrow, gentoo-wiki will be back eventually, but all content on both sites is probably gone forever.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:42 PM, BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. Looking forward to the new site, and restoration of www.gentoo-portage.com , a site I find to be extremely useful. :- Ben - Original Message From: Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 12:59:07 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help! On 2008-10-24, deface [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please read the latest news @ www.gentoo-wiki.com We can't. It's down. Care to share the news? -- Grant Sorry, we're temporarily experiencing some SYN DOS'n - you can also check the feeds on Twitter. http://twitter.com/mikevalstar deface
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. The site is on a machine that is rented from somebody else who hires rack space from another party. This is just begging for a disaster, or data being held hostage. Which is what happened according to the write up at that address. It's also a single point of failure. I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Wasn't this wiki also 0wned and defaced sometime in the last year? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Alan McKinnon wrote: I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Wasn't this wiki also 0wned and defaced sometime in the last year? http://gentoo-wiki.com/ Just thought I would summarize for everyone who doesn't want to read all of the below stuff: everyone in this whole mess is at fault; I personally failed to do proper backups, TelX was a dick about billing and has been extorting customers, And Skiplink handled the situation VERY poorly on the customer service end IMHO. You're a bit late to the blame party. kashani
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 2008-10-24, BRM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. It's there now, but when I tried earlier it was down. -- Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On 2008-10-24, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. Because you never did any? I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Feel free to put up a better site. Either put up or shut up. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:47:46PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-10-24, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. Because you never did any? I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Feel free to put up a better site. Either put up or shut up. put up, please :) -- Grant -- Regards, Nickolay Hodyunya.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Friday 24 October 2008 17:36:05 Nickolay Hodyunya wrote: On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:47:46PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2008-10-24, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: [...] You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Feel free to put up a better site. Either put up or shut up. put up, please :) This was totally unnecessary. Are you trying to start an flame-war for nothing? If so, why? Best regards and sorry for my poor English, -- Davi Vidal -- E-mail: davividal arroba siscompar ponto com ponto br MSN : davividal arroba msn ponto com GTalk : davividal arroba gmail ponto com Skype : davividal YIM : davi_vidal ICQ : 138815296
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Sorry. I forget to remove the list's address from To:. My fault. -- Davi Vidal -- E-mail: davividal arroba siscompar ponto com ponto br MSN : davividal arroba msn ponto com GTalk : davividal arroba gmail ponto com Skype : davividal YIM : davi_vidal ICQ : 138815296
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
Mike Edenfield ha scritto: Gentoo-portage should be up tommorrow, gentoo-wiki will be back eventually, but all content on both sites is probably gone forever. Well, there are backups until March, and Google cache still holds something. I had a similar failure on a wiki I was managing some time ago -it was wiped away in the scribblewiki.com disaster. However thanks to Google/MSN/Yahoo caches and internet archive, I was able to save something. If people go *now* and save caches of what they care about, maybe we can save some brick from the pile of rubble. I personally saved the google cache of a bunch of pages on the Macbook, since I need them :) m.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo-wiki.com - Needs your help!
On Oct 24, 2008, at 12:52 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Friday 24 October 2008 19:42:57 BRM wrote: They have a nice little site up at the www.gentoo-wiki.com site with all the grewsome details of what is going on. So as he said, please go there for the latest news. What I want to know is why there are no off-site backups. The site is on a machine that is rented from somebody else who hires rack space from another party. This is just begging for a disaster, or data being held hostage. Which is what happened according to the write up at that address. It's also a single point of failure. I have a response to that site owner and most here are not going to like it: You are an idiot. This is an elementary error and you fully deserve what has happened. Now stop whinging about how the big bad nasty terrible person is treating you and actually take some responsibility for your own mistakes. Wasn't this wiki also 0wned and defaced sometime in the last year? -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com The offsite backups, were actually on another server, on another link... inside the same company. but yes, we are making the necessary provisions this time around to suite the backups deface
