Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:17:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world Edit at will with sense of abandon vi /etc/make.conf Edit where appropriate vi /etc/portage/* Fearlessly edit

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:30:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What a horrible suggestion, not only does it use vi - three times! - but it ends with a goto! Here's a much more horrible thing: In which way does the suggestion, horrible as it is, depart from reality? Your reality must be bad

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 01 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world What if I emerge -vC all I know I don't want. All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world. It seems fine in theory, but every time I've done it in real

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 10:30:18 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: What a horrible suggestion, not only does it use vi - three times! - but it ends with a goto! Here's a much more horrible thing: In which way does the suggestion, horrible as it is,

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: vi was written by Bill Joy Bill Joy wrote lots of good stuff in BSD Our favourite OS owes a lot to BSD using vi pays homage to those magnificent BSD'ers of old I second all the vi accolades. I like the fact that Bill Joy was horribly drunk when he

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world. It seems fine in theory, but every time I've done it in real life I get into deep dependency trees that take more time to sort out than simply emerging world first. The trouble seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Brandon Mintern
My cleanup routine pretty much involves running vim on /var/lib/portage/world and going down the list. If I see something I definitely don't need, I remove that line. If I see something that I don't remember what it was, in another terminal (just an ALT-TAB away) I run esearch package-name. After

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread reader
Brandon Mintern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Call me old school, but that method never takes me more than a few minutes to do. I am also someone in the vim camp. It fires up quickly Unless you are updating a vmappliance built on old (even for 2006) 2006 pkgs to current 2008 pkgs. I know this is

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Brandon Mintern
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brandon Mintern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Call me old school, but that method never takes me more than a few minutes to do. I am also someone in the vim camp. It fires up quickly Unless you are updating a vmappliance built on old

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Just got a new car for my wifeGreat Trade!

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Hey Neil, Looks like we caught one - a big fish this time :-) :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com --

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) Hey, watch it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Uwe Thiem
On Thursday 01 May 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 15:13:27 -0400, Brandon Mintern wrote: I was mostly responding to Neil Bothwick's implication (even if it was sarcastic) that using vim indicates bad things. Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) You were very

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-05-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 May 2008 22:41:23 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: Implication? I obviously wasn't clear enough ;-) You were very clear. Some time ago, I offered you a Hansa Draught for some help if you ever happened to come to Windhoek. That offer is void now, and I'll drink the pint myself.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to jump an 2006 install up to 2008. I've never made that big an update without a fresh install. There's no such thing as a 2006 install. What does exist, is the collection of packages

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I cannot seem to get past a kernel panic that appears to be expecting an intramfs (You may remember this from a previous thread) After hand rolling 3 different kernels and trying genkernal all its all ended in the same kernel panic. Yes,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems like you got to a working state - unorthodox method, but it does seem to have worked :-) snip But now that blockage is solved... I'm getting a failure in the dependancy gpm when I try to emerge -vu portage. I've included that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 7:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to try a saner approach to getting it updated. I thought the first move would be to set the make.profile to 2007 then emerge --sync Before changing the profile are you clean with emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world? (Or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:49:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world revdep-rebuild -p eix-test-obsolete I'd run the first eix-test-obsolete after emerge --depclean since adding.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:49:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world revdep-rebuild -p

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:49:25 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread reader
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean -p --depclean tells me: !!! You have no system list. What does that mean? Also: emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world neither man emerge nor man portage show any

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world revdep-rebuild -p eix-test-obsolete Assuming

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world revdep-rebuild -p eix-test-obsolete Assuming everything is totally

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread reader
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean -p --depclean tells me: !!! You have no system list.

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread reader
Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world revdep-rebuild -p eix-test-obsolete Assuming everything is totally clean, or at least understood, now I change the profile and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: eix-sync eix-test-obsolete emerge -pvDuN --with-bdeps=y world emerge -p --depclean -p --depclean tells me: !!! You have no system list. What does that mean? Trouble, big trouble. Does

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP !!! Error: --with-bdeps=y is an invalid option. it's --with-bdeps y (no minus/dash) So right you are Alan. Thanks. Sorry to reader. cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] -p --depclean tells me: !!! You have no system list. What does that mean? Trouble, big trouble. Does /etc/make.profile point to an actual existing profile? That's the only thing I can think of that takes system away. It's defined in the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 30 April 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once I followed the recipe above all that disappeared along with the list error. I think that older version of portage was really what was causing most of the trouble. Makes sense. Portage is rather fond of finding the kind of files and

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world What if I emerge -vC all I know I don't want. All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world. I was hoping to accomplish much the same thing by editing world. But strangely I see only a few candidates to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 3:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world What if I emerge -vC all I know I don't want. All kde all gnome all xorg for example, before update world. I was hoping to accomplish much the same thing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:17:34 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: [2] vi /var/lib/portage/world Edit at will with sense of abandon vi /etc/make.conf Edit where appropriate vi /etc/portage/* Fearlessly edit throwing caution to the winds loop_entry:

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-29 Thread Anno v. Heimburg
Ian Graeme Hilt wrote: Download the 2008 minimal install cd and install. Frankly, updating a 2006 install to 2008 is counter-productive. You'll have a much easier time doing a fresh 2008 install. Why? If he kept his box up-to-date, there are just going to be some slight changes in the

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-29 Thread Anno v. Heimburg
Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: I don't want to comment about the change. However, you could have found out easily all the available profiles by doing eselect profile list: That's a cool eselect module, didn't know about that. I don't change profiles all that often (duh), and end up having to search for

[gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-29 Thread reader
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like to jump an 2006 install up to 2008. I've never made that big an update without a fresh install. There's no such thing as a 2006 install. What does exist, is the collection of packages that were on the LiveCDs released in 2006. It's

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smoothest way to jump from 2006 to 2008

2008-04-29 Thread Sandro Hannemann
Well I am not sure, but maybe there is a way of adding more space on your appliance, if neccessary. The idea that strikes me, is you could use your current appliance as the Gentoo-life-system and you install a new machine in that free area, chroot to it and work further. Really the classical fresh