Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble burning a 4Gb tarball at the moment. Not sure what all the problem is but I had another DVD with one. This is the command I use and the error less the looong list of files: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # tar -xvf /media/hdd/Data_2008.07.04-14.50.23_2.tar -C /backup/test/ data/Gentoo-stuff/livecd-i686-installer-2007.0.iso.bz2 tar: Skipping to next header SNIP tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls of the file: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295060992 2008-07-04 19:07 Data_2008.07.04-14.50.23_2.tar Any idea what that is all about? There are many possible reasons: 1) A well known bug in GNU tar (self incompatibility to GNU tar archives). I recommend you to use star to check the archive for correctness. 2) You did not use a recent original mkisofs to create the image 3) There is a bug in your Linux kernel. You would first need to check with a tar implementation that is kown to work (star). Jörg Hi, Sorry so long to reply but me and k3b have been having discussions about burning a huge DVD. I emerged star but it may as well be Greek, no offense to the Greek. Just something I will have to sit down and read sometime. I got the DVD burned with a larger than 4Gb file. Konqueror as a user says: Could not enter folder /media/hdd/ and I hear glass breaking. I assume that is not good. Mount gives me this with regard to the DVD: /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type udf (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) I think this is a permissions issue. Konqueror as root works just fine. May need to beat on fstab or something with regards to that. More on that in a minute. I can however access the DVD as root on the command line. So, I just used tar and started to extract it. It seems to be doing fine at the moment. I will test further with larger files tho just to make sure. At least this time it unpacked the tarball with no errors. After all, what's the point of back-ups if you can't unpack them? For the record, here is the current settings: k3b: under the burn screen I selected custom and then level 3 ISO, selected all file systems, preserve file permissions. Now back to the permissions issue. fstab: /dev/hdc /media/hdc iso9660 noauto,users0 0 /dev/hdd/media/hddautonoauto,users0 0 Anybody see any reason why a non root user can't access the DVD? I have set the permissions on /media/hdd to root/users with both having r/w access. However after I insert a DVD, something changes it to this: d- 2 root root 116 2008-07-08 11:14 hdd This is how I set it up: drwxrwxr-x 2 root users 48 2008-07-04 14:21 hdd It also changes back to my settings after I eject the DVD. I *think* I got the tar part working. Any clues on the permissions issue? Udev doing this? I got something set wrong? Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Sebastian Günther wrote: Everthing looks OK, but if there were more than 4 million files in that tarball, then you could run into trouble ;-) Only thing, what comes in mind, is that the filesystem, where the tarball itself resides, has problems with files bigger than 2,2 GB and the tarball is currupt, because it was not copied completely. And then my Latin is at the end Sebastian I am having trouble burning a 4Gb tarball at the moment. Not sure what all the problem is but I had another DVD with one. This is the command I use and the error less the looong list of files: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # tar -xvf /media/hdd/Data_2008.07.04-14.50.23_2.tar -C /backup/test/ data/Gentoo-stuff/livecd-i686-installer-2007.0.iso.bz2 tar: Skipping to next header SNIP tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls of the file: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295060992 2008-07-04 19:07 Data_2008.07.04-14.50.23_2.tar Any idea what that is all about? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am having trouble burning a 4Gb tarball at the moment. Not sure what all the problem is but I had another DVD with one. This is the command I use and the error less the looong list of files: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # tar -xvf /media/hdd/Data_2008.07.04-14.50.23_2.tar -C /backup/test/ data/Gentoo-stuff/livecd-i686-installer-2007.0.iso.bz2 tar: Skipping to next header SNIP tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls of the file: -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295060992 2008-07-04 19:07 Data_2008.07.04-14.50.23_2.tar Any idea what that is all about? There are many possible reasons: 1) A well known bug in GNU tar (self incompatibility to GNU tar archives). I recommend you to use star to check the archive for correctness. 2) You did not use a recent original mkisofs to create the image 3) There is a bug in your Linux kernel. You would first need to check with a tar implementation that is kown to work (star). Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:01 -0500 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, After getting a LOT of help on this, I got it sorted out. This is what is installed: [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.8 [1.1.6] USE=unicode -hfs 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r1 [1.0.4] USE=alsa arts dvdr dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Actually if you don't care about the GUI and compatibility with other systems, you can do DVD burning with growisofs only (without mkisofs/genisoimage respectively from cdrtools or cdrkit). I also noticed something else that was funny. I added the line to fstab but sort of forgot something else. This is one of my blonde moments here, not blonde but anyway. I forgot to make the mount point, you know, the hdd directory in /media. Dale slaps forehead AFAIK this might cause problems if you use auto-mounting software and forget to disable it before writing. The proof is in the puddin tho: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 4194346 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root112 2008-07-04 14:22 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root192 2008-07-04 14:21 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295007744 2008-07-04 12:32 Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That's a BIG file. Now I want a blue ray thingy. o_O Then I can make HUGE files. lol The good part is that you don't need isofs for DVDs. Actually you don't need any fs at all. You could write files like this: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar Unfortunately I have I/O errors (ruined media) often with this method, so I use: tar cp path/to/files | \ pipebench -q -b 5000 | \ growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0 pipebench is in portage and provides two important advantages: - you can check the speed and make adjustments it if necessary - you can adjust the buffer (-b) To restore the files from the above backup: tar xpf /dev/dvd It works perfectly for me. You can burn this way images with your preferred FS. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Daniel Iliev wrote: On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:01 -0500 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, After getting a LOT of help on this, I got it sorted out. This is what is installed: [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.8 [1.1.6] USE=unicode -hfs 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r1 [1.0.4] USE=alsa arts dvdr dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Actually if you don't care about the GUI and compatibility with other systems, you can do DVD burning with growisofs only (without mkisofs/genisoimage respectively from cdrtools or cdrkit). I also noticed something else that was funny. I added the line to fstab but sort of forgot something else. This is one of my blonde moments here, not blonde but anyway. I forgot to make the mount point, you know, the hdd directory in /media. Dale slaps forehead AFAIK this might cause problems if you use auto-mounting software and forget to disable it before writing. The proof is in the puddin tho: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 4194346 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root112 2008-07-04 14:22 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root192 2008-07-04 14:21 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295007744 2008-07-04 12:32 Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That's a BIG file. Now I want a blue ray thingy. o_O Then I can make HUGE files. lol The good part is that you don't need isofs for DVDs. Actually you don't need any fs at all. You could write files like this: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar Unfortunately I have I/O errors (ruined media) often with this method, so I use: tar cp path/to/files | \ pipebench -q -b 5000 | \ growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0 pipebench is in portage and provides two important advantages: - you can check the speed and make adjustments it if necessary - you can adjust the buffer (-b) To restore the files from the above backup: tar xpf /dev/dvd It works perfectly for me. You can burn this way images with your preferred FS. Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? Also, is there a incremental GUI back-ip tool? I found reoback but haven't tried it yet. I like Kbackup but it is all or nothing. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote: Daniel Iliev wrote: On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:43:01 -0500 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again, After getting a LOT of help on this, I got it sorted out. This is what is installed: [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.8 [1.1.6] USE=unicode -hfs 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r1 [1.0.4] USE=alsa arts dvdr dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Actually if you don't care about the GUI and compatibility with other systems, you can do DVD burning with growisofs only (without mkisofs/genisoimage respectively from cdrtools or cdrkit). I also noticed something else that was funny. I added the line to fstab but sort of forgot something else. This is one of my blonde moments here, not blonde but anyway. I forgot to make the mount point, you know, the hdd directory in /media. Dale slaps forehead AFAIK this might cause problems if you use auto-mounting software and forget to disable it before writing. The proof is in the puddin tho: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 4194346 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root112 2008-07-04 14:22 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root192 2008-07-04 14:21 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295007744 2008-07-04 12:32 Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That's a BIG file. Now I want a blue ray thingy. o_O Then I can make HUGE files. lol The good part is that you don't need isofs for DVDs. Actually you don't need any fs at all. You could write files like this: growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar Unfortunately I have I/O errors (ruined media) often with this method, so I use: tar cp path/to/files | \ pipebench -q -b 5000 | \ growisofs -Z /dev/sr0=/dev/fd/0 pipebench is in portage and provides two important advantages: - you can check the speed and make adjustments it if necessary - you can adjust the buffer (-b) To restore the files from the above backup: tar xpf /dev/dvd It works perfectly for me. You can burn this way images with your preferred FS. Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests: http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html you are doing something wrong. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote: Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests: http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html you are doing something wrong. Well, Kdar does the making part. I'm not doing anything fancy when unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about half way though unpacking. I can't recall the error at the moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed. I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:19:09 -0500, Dale wrote: Well, Kdar does the making part. I'm not doing anything fancy when unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about half way though unpacking. I can't recall the error at the moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed. I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me. Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives. -- Neil Bothwick The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays adialog box and lets you press OK first. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote: Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests: http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html you are doing something wrong. Well, Kdar does the making part. I'm not doing anything fancy when unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about half way though unpacking. I can't recall the error at the moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed. I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me. Dale :-) tar can handle single files of 8gb and archives of enourmous sizes. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests: http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html you are doing something wrong. Well, quoting a troll like fefe is not a good idea too. The page is full of nonsense. OK, it at least mentions a 21 GB tar archive but not a tar archive with a 21 GB file inside. The historic tar archive format supports single files up to 8 GB in tar archives. Since POSIX.1-2001, the extended tar archive format (called pax) has no size limitations. Linux typically does not come with tar but with a tar clone called GNU tar that by default does not write standard compliant archives but it does not have a 4.7 GB limit. Putting tar archives directly on CD/DVD media works, but it may confuse people. When discussing the best way for putting large files on DVDs, you should take into account that people who insert a medium that does not get automounted typically believe that there is a problem with the medium. This is why I added support for files 4 GB to mkisofs. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:19:09 -0500, Dale wrote: Well, Kdar does the making part. I'm not doing anything fancy when unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about half way though unpacking. I can't recall the error at the moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed. I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me. Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives. I'm using Kbackup not kdar. Two different things. I think Kdar is dead. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Joerg Schilling wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? emm. It should be handle to at least 8gb. And since I use tar to write to my 280gb tapelib ... and this guy used a 21gb tarball for his tests: http://bulk.fefe.de/lk2006/bench.html you are doing something wrong. Well, quoting a troll like fefe is not a good idea too. The page is full of nonsense. OK, it at least mentions a 21 GB tar archive but not a tar archive with a 21 GB file inside. The historic tar archive format supports single files up to 8 GB in tar archives. Since POSIX.1-2001, the extended tar archive format (called pax) has no size limitations. Linux typically does not come with tar but with a tar clone called GNU tar that by default does not write standard compliant archives but it does not have a 4.7 GB limit. Putting tar archives directly on CD/DVD media works, but it may confuse people. When discussing the best way for putting large files on DVDs, you should take into account that people who insert a medium that does not get automounted typically believe that there is a problem with the medium. This is why I added support for files 4 GB to mkisofs. Jörg How did you add support for that? Are you talking about the program itself or a USE flag? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
* Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 16:13]: Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? Maybe it is more a problem of the specific fs, where you try to create it. If there the blocksize is to small (1024) then there is your problem. What does dumpe2fs -h says about the blocksize of the specific device? HTH Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpqQVyyaNHPb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sunday 06 July 2008, Dale wrote: This is why I added support for files 4 GB to mkisofs. Jörg How did you add support for that? Are you talking about the program itself or a USE flag? Jörg is the author of mkisofs. -- Alan McKinnon alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:26:19 -0500, Dale wrote: Well, Kdar does the making part. I'm not doing anything fancy when unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about half way though unpacking. I can't recall the error at the moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed. I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me. Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives. I'm using Kbackup not kdar. Two different things. I think Kdar is dead. That's what you said earlier, but this time you said you were using kdar. No, it's not dead. It was reported as such, but it is still in development. -- Neil Bothwick Don't just do something, sit there! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sonntag, 6. Juli 2008, Dale wrote: How did you add support for that? Are you talking about the program itself or a USE flag? he is the maintainer of mkisofs ;) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 11:26:19 -0500, Dale wrote: Well, Kdar does the making part. I'm not doing anything fancy when unpacking it but when I do it with it set to 4.7Gb, I get a error about half way though unpacking. I can't recall the error at the moment but I should be able to reproduce it if needed. I was thinking tar could handle huge files which is what confuses me. Kdar makes dar archives, not tar archives. I'm using Kbackup not kdar. Two different things. I think Kdar is dead. That's what you said earlier, but this time you said you were using kdar. No, it's not dead. It was reported as such, but it is still in development. Oooops, my bad. I'm using Kbackup. My fingers are going coo coo. Kdar was masked a while back so I unmerged it. Sorry for the confusion. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 06 July 2008, Dale wrote: This is why I added support for files 4 GB to mkisofs. Jörg How did you add support for that? Are you talking about the program itself or a USE flag? Jörg is the author of mkisofs. I thought that name looked familiar. Some names are so close and I am awful at remembering names anyway. Notice I mixed up Kdar and Kbackup? I was just wanting to make sure I had it set up on my rig correctly, now that we all know I am using Kbackup. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Sebastian Günther wrote: * Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 16:13]: Well, it seems tar can not handle 4.7Gb files any way. I'm not sure why but it seems happy with 2.2Gb files. Anybody know about the upper limits on tar? Maybe it is more a problem of the specific fs, where you try to create it. If there the blocksize is to small (1024) then there is your problem. What does dumpe2fs -h says about the blocksize of the specific device? HTH Sebastian I do remember it was something to do with a block. I'll create another one and get the exact error. I use reiserfs on all my partitions except /boot. According to mount, it uses udf for the DVD. Info you wanted about the partition where it was being untarred: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # dumpe2fs -h /dev/hdb1 dumpe2fs 1.40.9 (27-Apr-2008) Filesystem volume name: none Last mounted on: not available Filesystem UUID: 1151d860-e80d-4897-a791-3fabec3386da Filesystem magic number: 0xEF53 Filesystem revision #:1 (dynamic) Filesystem features: has_journal ext_attr resize_inode dir_index filetype needs_recovery sparse_super large_file Filesystem flags: signed_directory_hash Default mount options:(none) Filesystem state: clean Errors behavior: Continue Filesystem OS type: Linux Inode count: 4890624 Block count: 19537040 Reserved block count: 976852 Free blocks: 11468312 Free inodes: 4361970 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size:4096 Reserved GDT blocks: 1019 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 8192 Inode blocks per group: 512 Filesystem created: Thu Jul 3 18:18:01 2008 Last mount time: Sat Jul 5 20:52:40 2008 Last write time: Sat Jul 5 20:52:40 2008 Mount count: 3 Maximum mount count: 23 Last checked: Thu Jul 3 18:18:01 2008 Check interval: 15552000 (6 months) Next check after: Tue Dec 30 17:18:01 2008 Reserved blocks uid: 0 (user root) Reserved blocks gid: 0 (group root) First inode: 11 Inode size: 256 Journal inode:8 Default directory hash: tea Directory Hash Seed: add02ebf-4002-429a-8463-f5a4509bd066 Journal backup: inode blocks Journal size: 128M [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
* Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 21:52]: Sebastian Günther wrote: * Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [06.07.08 16:13]: [usage of reiserfs] Last time I saw a reiserfs, that I needed to maitain was with SuSe 6.3, so I don't know if there could be a problem, but I kind of doubt that. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # dumpe2fs -h /dev/hdb1 dumpe2fs 1.40.9 (27-Apr-2008) Inode count: 4890624 Block count: 19537040 Reserved block count: 976852 Free blocks: 11468312 Free inodes: 4361970 First block: 0 Block size: 4096 Fragment size:4096 Reserved GDT blocks: 1019 Blocks per group: 32768 Fragments per group: 32768 Inodes per group: 8192 Inode blocks per group: 512 Everthing looks OK, but if there were more than 4 million files in that tarball, then you could run into trouble ;-) Only thing, what comes in mind, is that the filesystem, where the tarball itself resides, has problems with files bigger than 2,2 GB and the tarball is currupt, because it was not copied completely. And then my Latin is at the end Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpk6n1JH29N6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:42:52 -0500, Dale wrote: Oooops, my bad. I'm using Kbackup. My fingers are going coo coo. Kdar was masked a while back so I unmerged it. Kdar was masked, but not dar itself. Kdar was unmasked a few weeks later. From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216063 Kdar was given last rites and pronounced dead at 3/5/08. But in the process of being wheeled down to the morgue for cremation it sat bolt upright in the gurney and coughed. Scared the sh*t out of the poor nurse. -- Neil Bothwick A woman walked into a bar and asked the barman for a large double entendre, so he gave her one. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:42:52 -0500, Dale wrote: Oooops, my bad. I'm using Kbackup. My fingers are going coo coo. Kdar was masked a while back so I unmerged it. Kdar was masked, but not dar itself. Kdar was unmasked a few weeks later. From http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=216063 Kdar was given last rites and pronounced dead at 3/5/08. But in the process of being wheeled down to the morgue for cremation it sat bolt upright in the gurney and coughed. Scared the sh*t out of the poor nurse. ROFLMAO. I didn't know that. I thought maybe something new was coming up for KDE 4 or something. I lost my emails from the list about that time so I missed the scared nurse. I did notice dar was still there tho. Thing is, how you unpack that from say a Gentoo boot CD? It's not exactly a tar file. Seems you have to have dar/kdar to unpack the thing which would be useless for a system back-up. I just wish I could have got that mondo-rescue thing to working. It seems perfect for a system back-up. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:29:34 -0500, Dale wrote: ROFLMAO. I didn't know that. I thought maybe something new was coming up for KDE 4 or something. I lost my emails from the list about that time so I missed the scared nurse. I did notice dar was still there tho. Thing is, how you unpack that from say a Gentoo boot CD? It's not exactly a tar file. Seems you have to have dar/kdar to unpack the thing which would be useless for a system back-up. It may not be on a Gentoo live CD, but it is on others, like SystemRescueCD and (I think) Knoppix. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 47: Act naturally signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:29:34 -0500, Dale wrote: ROFLMAO. I didn't know that. I thought maybe something new was coming up for KDE 4 or something. I lost my emails from the list about that time so I missed the scared nurse. I did notice dar was still there tho. Thing is, how you unpack that from say a Gentoo boot CD? It's not exactly a tar file. Seems you have to have dar/kdar to unpack the thing which would be useless for a system back-up. It may not be on a Gentoo live CD, but it is on others, like SystemRescueCD and (I think) Knoppix. I got a Knoppix, sort of a old one but got one anyway. May have to check and make sure it has dar on it. Anyway, they all have the tar command. ;-) I'm in the process of making a 4Gb tarball to see what that error was again. Watch it work this time. o_O Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Dale wrote: How did you add support for that? Are you talking about the program itself or a USE flag? Dale :-) :-) Since you have some hands on experience with this stuff, see if you can help me figure this out. I used Kbackup to create 4.7Gb tarballs of my data directory. I use k3b to burn my DVD's with. I get this error when I try to burn it: System --- K3b Version: 1.0.5 KDE Version: 3.5.9 QT Version: 3.3.8 Kernel: 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 Devices --- HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM] [CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96R, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] Burned media --- DVD+RW K3bIsoImager --- mkisofs print size result: 423 (866304 bytes) Pipe throughput: 866304 bytes read, 866304 bytes written. Used versions --- mkisofs: 2.1.1a41 growisofs: 7.1 growisofs --- About to execute 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=0' WARNING: /dev/hdd already carries isofs! /dev/hdd: Current Write Speed is 4.1x1352KBps. /dev/hdd: flushing cache /dev/hdd: stopping de-icing /dev/hdd: writing lead-out growisofs command: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:423 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m mkisofs --- /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1.tar is too large for current mkisofs settings - ignoring /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1.tar is too large for current mkisofs settings - ignoring 423 /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale. /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1.tar is too large for current mkisofs settings - ignoring Total translation table size: 0 Total rockridge attributes bytes: 169 Total directory bytes: 238 Path table size(bytes): 10 Max brk space used 21000 423 extents written (0 MB) mkisofs calculate size command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3b6Njrlb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bLQuQRa.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3beqVKic.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3b6oeC5a.tmp mkisofs command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -gui -graft-points -volid Data_2008.07.06-17.42.05_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGH40Xa.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3b2ThSXa.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bKkQVfb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bZDZ3oa.tmp Here is my thoughts. K3b seems to be using growisofs instead of the tools supplied by cdrtools. Is there some way to disable growisofs or is there another way to do this? Here is what I have installed: [I--] [ ] app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools-7.1 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2-r2 (0) [I--] [ ~] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha41 (0) Any other ideas are welcome as well. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Dale wrote: Any other ideas are welcome as well. Thanks Dale :-) :-) I got it to burn. It appears with all the unmerge/remerge stuff a setting got lost. It just won't work with udf not checked. Next issue. Now that it is burned, it can't mount it. Udf is in the kernel and it worked once before. Another setting maybe? Any other ideas? Little info here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount SNIP /dev/hdd on /media/hdd type udf (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 2 d- 2 root root 40 2008-07-06 22:55 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 192 2008-07-06 01:55 .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
* Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04.07.08 05:25]: Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? How big is the tarball? # ls -lh tarball Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try to burn it on a CD... [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # To be faster than Jörg: He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp k3b HTH Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx [EMAIL PROTECTED]@N GÜNTHER mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgpP5gsHlBGHE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:24:20 -0500 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? Hey, Dale! Nice to see you back! I believe it means your archive is too big for the media disk you. Are you trying to write 4.7[GiB] on a 4.7[GB] DVD disc? 4.7 GB (giga) = 4.7 x 10^9 = 47 (DVD media disc capacity) 4.7 GiB (gibi) = 4.7 x 2^30 = 5046586572.8 (the too large file) Gibi is often incorrectly called giga which leads to confusions. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:05:45 +0300 Daniel Iliev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe it means your archive is too big for the media disk you. Should be: I believe it means your archive is too big for the media disk you are trying to use. My apologies. -- Best regards, Daniel -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Sebastian Günther wrote: * Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04.07.08 05:25]: Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? How big is the tarball? # ls -lh tarball Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try to burn it on a CD... [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # To be faster than Jörg: He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp k3b HTH Sebastian I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so. It should fit on the DVD with no problems. I tried a lot of different settings tho. Still no joy. I don't think that file will fit on a CD. LOL Maybe this will help: System --- K3b Version: 1.0.4 KDE Version: 3.5.9 QT Version: 3.3.8 Kernel: 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 Devices --- HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM] [CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] Burned media --- DVD+RW K3bIsoImager --- mkisofs print size result: 423 (866304 bytes) Pipe throughput: 866304 bytes read, 866304 bytes written. Used versions --- mkisofs: 2.1.1a34 growisofs: 7.1 growisofs --- Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=27' umount: /media/hdd is not in the fstab (and you are not root) :-( /dev/hdd: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount growisofs command: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -C 16,432 -M /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:423 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m mkisofs --- /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. 423 Rock Ridge signatures found /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current mode - ignoring Rock Ridge signatures found /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current mode - ignoring /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale. Rock Ridge signatures found /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current mode - ignoring Total translation table size: 0 Total rockridge attributes bytes: 169 Total directory bytes: 238 Path table size(bytes): 10 Max brk space used 21000 423 extents written (0 MB) mkisofs calculate size command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bLMd7ia.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGRKstb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGlrs1b.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bbo175b.tmp mkisofs command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui -graft-points -volid Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bUa5fVb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bxZlVdb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3baD0Kxb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bJazFqa.tmp Let me know if you need any other info. Dale :-) :-) --
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Dale wrote: Sebastian Günther wrote: * Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04.07.08 05:25]: Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? How big is the tarball? # ls -lh tarball Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try to burn it on a CD... [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # To be faster than Jörg: He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp k3b HTH Sebastian I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so. It should fit on the DVD with no problems. I tried a lot of different settings tho. Still no joy. I don't think that file will fit on a CD. LOL Maybe this will help: System --- K3b Version: 1.0.4 KDE Version: 3.5.9 QT Version: 3.3.8 Kernel: 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 Devices --- HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM] [CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R] Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump] Burned media --- DVD+RW K3bIsoImager --- mkisofs print size result: 423 (866304 bytes) Pipe throughput: 866304 bytes read, 866304 bytes written. Used versions --- mkisofs: 2.1.1a34 growisofs: 7.1 growisofs --- Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=27' umount: /media/hdd is not in the fstab (and you are not root) :-( /dev/hdd: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount growisofs command: --- /usr/bin/growisofs -C 16,432 -M /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0 -use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty -use-the-force-luke=tracksize:423 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m mkisofs --- /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. 423 Rock Ridge signatures found /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current mode - ignoring Rock Ridge signatures found /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current mode - ignoring /usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes. Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale. Rock Ridge signatures found /usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File /backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current mode - ignoring Total translation table size: 0 Total rockridge attributes bytes: 169 Total directory bytes: 238 Path table size(bytes): 10 Max brk space used 21000 423 extents written (0 MB) mkisofs calculate size command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui -graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bLMd7ia.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGRKstb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGlrs1b.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bbo175b.tmp mkisofs command: --- /usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui -graft-points -volid Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bUa5fVb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bxZlVdb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3baD0Kxb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf -full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bJazFqa.tmp Let me know if you need any other info. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Am Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 schrieb Dale: After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. Is that the exact error message? Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 schrieb Dale: After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. Is that the exact error message? Bye... Dirk Hi, I put the debug stuff in the reply to Sebastian's email. From the way I understood the error, it could not handle a file larger than 2Gbs. May be reading it wrong tho. Got another test in the works at the moment. Hope it will work. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:18:54 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote: Should be: I believe it means your archive is too big for the media disk you are trying to use. If you want to be really pedantic, it should be media disc :) When CDs were introduced, Philips reverted to the correct spelling of disc. -- Neil Bothwick [ Printed on recycled electrons ] signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:01 -0500, Dale wrote: I put the debug stuff in the reply to Sebastian's email. From the way I understood the error, it could not handle a file larger than 2Gbs. May be reading it wrong tho. That's right, why do you think the files on video DVDs come in 1GB chunks. You need to split the tarball to put it on a DVD. I use dar for backing up to DVDs, it handles these details for you. -- Neil Bothwick PROSTITUTE: Receiver of swollen goods. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:01 -0500, Dale wrote: I put the debug stuff in the reply to Sebastian's email. From the way I understood the error, it could not handle a file larger than 2Gbs. May be reading it wrong tho. That's right, why do you think the files on video DVDs come in 1GB chunks. You need to split the tarball to put it on a DVD. I use dar for backing up to DVDs, it handles these details for you. LOL Never looked in a DVD before. Sort of my first one here. o_O That sort of sucks. I was hoping for one whopper file instead of a few little ones. Oh well. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Sebastian Günther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # To be faster than Jörg: He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b You are correct, the genisoimage program is a fork from a very old version of mkisofs. Enhancements and bugfixes done during the past 3 years are not available in the clone. Instead, new bugs have been added by the maintainers. Be careful: genisoimage claims to support larger files but the created filesystem images are broken. Mkisofs did add support for files 4 GB aprox. 2 years ago. Mkisofs added support for importing multi-session files 4 GB from old sessions in May 2008. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so. It should fit on the DVD with no problems. I tried a lot of different settings tho. Still no joy. I don't think that file will fit on a CD. LOL As this is an extension to what the basic compatibility mode allows, you of course need to _allow_ mkisofs to write files larger than 4 GB. See the mkisofs man page -- you need iso-level 3 or 4. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Friday 04 July 2008, Dale wrote: Sebastian Günther wrote: * Dale ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [04.07.08 05:25]: Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? How big is the tarball? # ls -lh tarball Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try to burn it on a CD... [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # To be faster than Jörg: He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp k3b HTH Sebastian I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so. It should fit on the DVD with no problems. 4GB is about the limit. Please give the exact size. Uwe -- Ignorance killed the cat, sir, curiosity was framed! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:01 -0500, Dale wrote: I put the debug stuff in the reply to Sebastian's email. From the way I understood the error, it could not handle a file larger than 2Gbs. May be reading it wrong tho. That's right, why do you think the files on video DVDs come in 1GB chunks. You need to split the tarball to put it on a DVD. I use dar for backing up to DVDs, it handles these details for you. The maximum size of a single file on a video DVD is 1 GB - one sector. This is to allow historical (e.g. Mac OS 9) OS that is not large file aware. The largefile awareness starts with the ability to correctly handle files that are 2 GB - 2 bytes. Mkisofs is largefile hot since 10 years (Solaris) and supports large files on Linux since Linux started to introduce this feature. As ISO-9660 level 1..2 limits files to 4 GB - 2 kB, we are not talking about large file support but about something different. If you are using cdrkit, you use a fork that has been created in September 2006, but that is based on code published in September 2004. As the cdrkit project does not do own development, all new features and bug fixes done in the official software are missing in the fork. If you need features implemented during the past 3 years, you cannot use the fork, _need_ to use the official software. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:12:49 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote: If you need features implemented during the past 3 years, you cannot use the fork, _need_ to use the official software. I needed to write 4GB files to DVDs up until three years ago. I no longer need to do this, hence I was unaware that mkisofs now has this capability. -- Neil Bothwick Windows isn't a virus -- viruses do something! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so. It should fit on the DVD with no problems. I tried a lot of different settings tho. Still no joy. I don't think that file will fit on a CD. LOL As this is an extension to what the basic compatibility mode allows, you of course need to _allow_ mkisofs to write files larger than 4 GB. See the mkisofs man page -- you need iso-level 3 or 4. Jörg I did try level 3 and still no joy. Also tried UDF or something and no joy. I got Kbackup to make 1Gb tarballs and it still does not burn. I got something like this: umount: /media/hdd is not in the fstab So, I added it to fstab and it is burning away. I will try large files next and see just how big I can get. Plan to try the 4Gb sucker just out of curiosity if nothing else. I thought you didn't need fstab entries for CD/DVD stuff? O_O Thanks for the help tho. Learned something new. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As this is an extension to what the basic compatibility mode allows, you of course need to _allow_ mkisofs to write files larger than 4 GB. See the mkisofs man page -- you need iso-level 3 or 4. Jörg I did try level 3 and still no joy. Also tried UDF or something and no joy. I got Kbackup to make 1Gb tarballs and it still does not burn. I got something like this: You may either have an old k3b binary or the k3b sor some reason still uses the fork. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As this is an extension to what the basic compatibility mode allows, you of course need to _allow_ mkisofs to write files larger than 4 GB. See the mkisofs man page -- you need iso-level 3 or 4. Jörg I did try level 3 and still no joy. Also tried UDF or something and no joy. I got Kbackup to make 1Gb tarballs and it still does not burn. I got something like this: You may either have an old k3b binary or the k3b sor some reason still uses the fork. Jörg I guess it is possible. This is what I did try tho. 1215138661: === Unmerging... (app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01.01_alpha34) 1215139599: ::: completed emerge (1 of 1) app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 to / I did try both versions just to see and still gave me a error. NOT to start a flame war here but which one is the most 'up to date' package? Or should I say gets maintained the best? May I also say this thing burns pretty swift. It's faster than a CD-RW. Just wish the buffers would stay fuller. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As this is an extension to what the basic compatibility mode allows, you of course need to _allow_ mkisofs to write files larger than 4 GB. See the mkisofs man page -- you need iso-level 3 or 4. Jörg I did try level 3 and still no joy. Also tried UDF or something and no joy. I got Kbackup to make 1Gb tarballs and it still does not burn. I got something like this: You may either have an old k3b binary or the k3b sor some reason still uses the fork. Jörg Now some other thoughts. I got it burned and k3b even played the successfully burned tune for me. When I insert the DVD, it opens in a new window but shows no files on the DVD. Now what? The files are just under 1Gb in size. My fstab line: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # cat /etc/fstab | grep hdd /dev/hdd/media/hdd autonoauto,users0 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Ideas? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now some other thoughts. I got it burned and k3b even played the successfully burned tune for me. When I insert the DVD, it opens in a new window but shows no files on the DVD. Now what? The files are just under 1Gb in size. This is a strong hint that you still used genisoimage instead of the real software. genisoimage creates broken filesystem images that use the remainder to 4 GB as filesize. There is no support for file content bejond 4 GB - 2kB in genisoimage. Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED](uni) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/old/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Joerg Schilling wrote: Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now some other thoughts. I got it burned and k3b even played the successfully burned tune for me. When I insert the DVD, it opens in a new window but shows no files on the DVD. Now what? The files are just under 1Gb in size. This is a strong hint that you still used genisoimage instead of the real software. genisoimage creates broken filesystem images that use the remainder to 4 GB as filesize. There is no support for file content bejond 4 GB - 2kB in genisoimage. Jörg How do I get rid of genisoimage? Can I unmerge it or something? Can k3b live without it? Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Hi again, After getting a LOT of help on this, I got it sorted out. This is what is installed: [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.8 [1.1.6] USE=unicode -hfs 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.5-r1 [1.0.4] USE=alsa arts dvdr dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB I also noticed something else that was funny. I added the line to fstab but sort of forgot something else. This is one of my blonde moments here, not blonde but anyway. I forgot to make the mount point, you know, the hdd directory in /media. Dale slaps forehead The proof is in the puddin tho: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /media/hdd/ total 4194346 dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root112 2008-07-04 14:22 . drwxr-xr-x 5 root root192 2008-07-04 14:21 .. -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4295007744 2008-07-04 12:32 Test-_2008.07.04-10.06.53_1.tar [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # That's a BIG file. Now I want a blue ray thingy. o_O Then I can make HUGE files. lol Thanks for all the help. Sorry for making such a silly mistake tho. :/ Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] DVD and large files
Hi folks, After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what? [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # equery list cdr * installed packages [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0) [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0) [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -vp k3b These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.4 USE=alsa arts dvdr dvdread encode hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -vcd -xinerama LINGUAS=-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # * UDF file system support [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # uname -r 2.6.23-gentoo-r8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I also tried switching to cdrtools with no change. Oh, also recompiled k3b after changing that, just to make sure. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
