Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-06-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 17:02:18 Mick wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 16:36:59 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday 29 May 2015 16:19:38 Mick wrote: > > > On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed > > > > finally [1], a

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-31 Thread Mick
On Sunday 31 May 2015 15:01:10 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 31 May 2015 13:18:06 Mick wrote: > > You could look into ~/Mail/ or wherever you keep your mails and find the > > Inbox directory. Then copy any messages you want shown there manually. > > The index will be recreated when you restart

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-31 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 31 May 2015 13:18:06 Mick wrote: > You could look into ~/Mail/ or wherever you keep your mails and find the > Inbox directory. Then copy any messages you want shown there manually. > The index will be recreated when you restart Kmail, or if you click on > 'Recreate Index' under the Pro

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-31 Thread Mick
On Sunday 31 May 2015 01:39:34 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 30 May 2015 16:43:13 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: > > > On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: > > --->8 > > > > > Have a look here for more details and warnings: > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 16:43:13 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: > > On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: > --->8 > > > Have a look here for more details and warnings: > > > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade > > Many thank

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 12:49:51 Mick wrote: > On my laptop which has stayed on Kmail-1 I have this: --->8 > Have a look here for more details and warnings: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE/KDEPIM-4.7_upgrade Many thanks Mick - that's very helpful. > I expect that sooner or later bitrot wil

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Mick
On Saturday 30 May 2015 00:20:51 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Other than the odd bug here and there I was perfectly happy with KDE3 and > > Kmail1 (still using with kde-base/kdepim-meta-4.4.11.1-r1). > > I wonder if there's a way to go back to KMail-1 and import all my e-mails > from KMail-2 archive

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 30 May 2015 09:53:23 Alan McKinnon wrote: > Akonadi was supposed to be a once-size-fits-all central store of all pim > info (contacts, addresses, mails and all metadata about that) which any > and all apps could use. > > The vision was that an enormous awesome ecosystem all buying int

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 30 May 2015 00:20:51 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > He was talking about tying the e-mail client to a database, not about > the KDE4 desktop, and I've protested at the same thing more than > once, sometimes in vigorous terms. Made no difference of course, but > then I'm just an insufficien

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-30 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 29/05/2015 17:54, Mick wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: >> Mick wrote: >>> On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with me

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:54:33 Mick wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: > > What in god's name is that stupid database for anyway? Does it perform > > any useful function? Is there any tool that gives the user any > > measurable benefit that even justifies one one hundredth o

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Mick
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:36:59 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 16:19:38 Mick wrote: > > On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed > > > finally [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with >

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Mick
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:28:57 Alan Grimes wrote: > Mick wrote: > > On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally > >> [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata > 1.0) > >> was not being sta

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 16:19:38 Mick wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally > > [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata > 1.0) > > was not being started. > > > > [1] Wheneve

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Alan Grimes
Mick wrote: > On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: > >> I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally >> [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata > 1.0) >> was not being started. >> >> [1] Whenever I've had KMail screw up I've cre

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Mick
On Friday 29 May 2015 10:36:37 Peter Humphrey wrote: > I had two sets of problems: one in KDE which I might have nailed finally > [1], and one at boot time in which /dev/md7 (RAID-1 with metadata > 1.0) > was not being started. > > [1] Whenever I've had KMail screw up I've created a new user an

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 29 May 2015 11:13:22 Stephan Müller wrote: > Am 28.05.2015 um 19:03 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > > (It would have been nice to sort on the final field but I can't see how to > > do that.) > > For example like this: > > $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/ | awk '{print $11, $9}' | sort That's som

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Stephan Müller
Am 28.05.2015 um 19:03 schrieb Peter Humphrey: > 1bb4ba53-677a-4a0e-b737-f3e274f0e71e -> ../../sda2 > 1e20e3e6-e218-485b-b5ff-be85a287e364 -> ../../sda3 > 3a2a6e94-a6f0-4479-ae87-44887946148c -> ../../sda6 > 3befff76-2a0e-49fa-9e6f-2bd0ed73cf31 -> ../../md5 > 43e655ca-a6ef-4931-99b6-3aa2ad6c30cb ->

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 29 May 2015 01:10:52 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Just keep in mind that the UUID that goes into mdadm.conf might not be > > the same UUID returned by blkid. I'm honestly not certain either way. > > You can get the mdadm ID from mdadm --detail --scan. > > Good grief! When is a UUID n

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 May 2015 19:51:24 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've found blkid, which tells me the UUIDs of my various devices, thus: > > > > # blkid /dev/md7 > > /dev/md7: UUID="ycGMf9-hEP2-tjT4-AtkJ-n8RI-pZ44-RqvlEY" > > TYPE="LVM2_member" >

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 28 May 2015 15:36:04 I wrote: >> On Thursday 28 May 2015 08:44:27 Rich Freeman wrote: >> > With an approach like yours, mdadm will attempt to create md1 by >> > looking ONLY at sda1 and sdb1, and if that pair forms a valid array

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 May 2015 15:36:04 I wrote: > On Thursday 28 May 2015 08:44:27 Rich Freeman wrote: > > With an approach like yours, mdadm will attempt to create md1 by > > looking ONLY at sda1 and sdb1, and if that pair forms a valid array it > > is started, and if not it is not. If you add a new dr

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 28 May 2015 08:44:27 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > My mdadm.conf is now this: > > DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]1 > > DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]5 > > DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]7 > > ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1 > > ARRAY /dev/md5 devices=/dev/sda5,

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Todd Goodman
* Rich Freeman [150528 08:45]: > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: [..SNIP..] > UUIDs are often preferable in these kinds of configurations, because > you're less likely to run into duplicate identifiers, they don't > change, and so on. If I mount root=UUID=foo, then my init

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > My mdadm.conf is now this: > DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]1 > DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]5 > DEVICE /dev/sd[ab]7 > ARRAY /dev/md1 devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1 > ARRAY /dev/md5 devices=/dev/sda5,/dev/sdb5 > ARRAY /dev/md7 devices=/dev/sda7,/dev/sdb7 > > I'll se

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 21:40:37 Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:16:35 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:21:37 Rich Freeman wrote: > > > I suspect that an initramfs might help > > > you out, assuming the filesystems on that RAID are useful in early > > > boot. Howeve

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:16:35 I wrote: > Since writing, I've found that my fonts have all changed as well. Yet more clarity: fonts have not been affected in applications that control their own fonts - KMail, Firefox... - but system functions and boinc-mgr (which uses whatever fonts are give

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 15:16:35 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:21:37 Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > > > This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. > > > > Just to clarify, is /usr on a separate filesyst

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 27 May 2015 09:21:37 Rich Freeman wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. > > Just to clarify, is /usr on a separate filesystem, or the same as /? > I don't think that is your problem in any case

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:59 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. Just to clarify, is /usr on a separate filesystem, or the same as /? I don't think that is your problem in any case, but it might be relevant. > ... bunch of KDE stuff I've had t

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 27/05/2015 14:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Peter Humphrey > > wrote: > >> > >> Hello list, > > > > Hi. > > > >> Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 27/05/2015 14:31, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: >> >> Hello list, > > Hi. > >> Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go bump in the > night. This >> is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and

Re: [gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, Hi. > Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go bump in the night. This > is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. I have no idea what your problem can be. But as a friendly reminder, your setup ("

[gentoo-user] General weirdness - a tale of woe.

2015-05-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go bump in the night. This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. The first thing was that my screen saver was being overlaid with a plain default desktop. That was fixed by creating a new user for myself and settin