Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-16 Thread Michael Kjorling
On 2006-01-16 03:00 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone help explain the status=bounced (mail for mail.validdomain.co.uk loops back to myself error message, please? It actually is pretty self explanationary. It means that a mail was received (from a host that is allowed to relay, in

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-16 Thread Stroller
On 16 Jan 2006, at 08:53, Michael Kjorling wrote: On 2006-01-16 03:00 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone help explain the status=bounced (mail for mail.validdomain.co.uk loops back to myself error message, please? It actually is pretty self explanationary. It means that a mail was

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Ryan Viljoen
I had a similar problem with a school's mail system. I setup spam assasin but found it identified the same nicely but didnt do any thing about it. Now there are a few things that you particularly dont want such as penixensizer and viagra and such... What I landed up doing is defining a set of my

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 03:08:38 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emerged SpamAssasin on a mailserver the other day, added the appropriate line to /etc/postfix/master.cf and it all seems to be working ok. But it doesn't seem to be very accurate in the default configuration -

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jan 2006, at 10:15, Ryan Viljoen wrote: What I landed up doing is defining a set of my own rules that detected if penis, viagra, slut and such words occured it added a +10.0 to the spam assassin rating so if is clearly identified as spam. I'm somewhat cautious about this. I know you

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jan 2006, at 12:56, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: I'd strongly suggest using the Bayesian filters, per-user, that is... That way all users can put mails they'd like to be learned as being spam in the respective IMAP folder and have them automatically learned overnight. Simple setup, highly

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread John Jolet
On Jan 15, 2006, at 7:59 AM, Stroller wrote: On 15 Jan 2006, at 10:15, Ryan Viljoen wrote: What I landed up doing is defining a set of my own rules that detected if penis, viagra, slut and such words occured it added a +10.0 to the spam assassin rating so if is clearly identified as

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Sunday 15 January 2006 04:08, Stroller wrote: I'd be very happy with a 95% success rate on spam detection, but obviously false positives are a Bad Thing. Never tried it myself, but I've read many articles that say that dspam is a better filter than spamassassin, and can be trained by users

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jan 2006, at 14:36, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 15 January 2006 04:08, Stroller wrote: I'd be very happy with a 95% success rate on spam detection, but obviously false positives are a Bad Thing. Never tried it myself, but I've read many articles that say that dspam is a better

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 16 January 2006 04:28, Stroller wrote: It does indeed seem very good, but again it requires training, which is something I'm trying to avoid in this instance. Stroller. No solution you have is going to be perfect I suspect. Really it does come down to individual requirements,

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jan 2006, at 16:44, Glenn Enright wrote: On Monday 16 January 2006 04:28, Stroller wrote: It does indeed seem very good, but again it requires training, which is something I'm trying to avoid in this instance. Stroller. No solution you have is going to be perfect I suspect. Really it

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi, On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:07:51 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15 Jan 2006, at 12:56, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: I'd strongly suggest using the Bayesian filters, per-user, that is... [...] What improvement rate are you seeing for this, please? About 99% of _Spam_ mails are

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Ryan Viljoen
What I landed up doing is defining a set of my own rules that detected if penis, viagra, slut and such words occured it added a +10.0 to the spam assassin rating so if is clearly identified as spam. I'm somewhat cautious about this. I know you get very high hit rates with this, but it

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 15 January 2006 21:33, Ryan Viljoen wrote: What I landed up doing is defining a set of my own rules that detected if penis, viagra, slut and such words occured it added a +10.0 to the spam assassin rating so if is clearly identified as spam. I'm somewhat cautious about this. I know

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jan 2006, at 19:15, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: ...And if I teach them to train the filters by dragging dropping into the learn folder then I anticipate perhaps just one of them complaining but why can't I just right-click it and `mark as junk' in Outlook?. True. My answer is: because

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 15 Jan 2006, at 06:48, William Kenworthy wrote: On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 03:08 +, Stroller wrote: Hi there, I emerged SpamAssasin on a mailserver the other day, added the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mailfilter-guide.xml The reason I avoided using this for some time was that I feel it

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Samir Faci
I've followed and used this setup a few times. I actually just got it up and running a few minutes ago. I did ignore most of the info about DCC and razor etc... and I agree with you, it isn't the best documentation. But I always thought postfix was the better free mailserv out there..

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 16 Jan 2006, at 03:00, Stroller wrote: Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/cleanup[7255]: 63F853636A: message- id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 63F853636A: from=, size=4128, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 2875136369:

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Glenn Enright
On Monday 16 January 2006 06:01, Stroller wrote: I'm looking at dcc now - it looks useful, but I'm not yet clear on how to configure it (with SpamAssassin?). perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DCC in the file /etc/spamassassin/init.pre add this line loadplugin

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-15 Thread Stroller
On 16 Jan 2006, at 04:32, Stroller wrote: On 16 Jan 2006, at 03:00, Stroller wrote: Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/cleanup[7255]: 63F853636A: message- id=[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jan 16 02:51:39 baby postfix/qmgr[7222]: 63F853636A: from=, size=4128, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Jan 16

[gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-14 Thread Stroller
Hi there, I emerged SpamAssasin on a mailserver the other day, added the appropriate line to /etc/postfix/master.cf and it all seems to be working ok. But it doesn't seem to be very accurate in the default configuration - I have a mailbox with about 4,000 messages, approximately 98% of

Re: [gentoo-user] Improving SpamAssassin's accuracy...

2006-01-14 Thread William Kenworthy
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/mailfilter-guide.xml On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 03:08 +, Stroller wrote: Hi there, I emerged SpamAssasin on a mailserver the other day, added the -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list