Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. I really liked Amarok 1 and they started over for Amarok 2 and I dislike just about everything

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Roy Wright
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't get Amarok 2... Personally the change

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Philip Webb
090414 Roy Wright wrote: the change over to dolphin is disappointing. So far I've been able to mostly ignore it and use konqueror with one major exception, fish and sftp no longer work in konqueror. Only sftp works in dolphin. In the past (3.x), I always found fish bulletproof, while sftp

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. Glad I'm not the

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 08:56:51 Roy Wright wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 02:19:47 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost useless. It's JavaScript is horribly broken

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:06:03 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 14 April 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But konqueror is showing it's age, and as a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 10:48:09 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I don't like dolphin either, it reminds me too much of Nautilus. But konqueror is showing it's age, and as a browser it's now almost useless. It's JavaScript is horribly broken and using flash is just too painful to contemplate.

[gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Philip Webb
I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. There's a very limited choice of desktop backgrounds: I like the 'No picture, pavement' choice in 3.5.10 with different colors, but there's nothing similar in

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. There's a very limited choice of desktop backgrounds: I like the 'No picture,

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Philip Webb
090413 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. I would suggest totally getting rid of everything KDE3

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I also didn't mention that Kmahjongg 4.2.1 doesn't allow you to edit the layout its traditional tiles are ugly. Oh, I forgot about the games... Kolf is really really ugly now on KDE4... they changed the colors for no

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: I got KDE 4.2.1 installed with only a couple of bugs along the way. I'm not impressed: there's some eye-candy, but usability is reduced. There's a very limited choice of desktop backgrounds: I

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 13 April 2009 19:14:25 Dale wrote: Paul Hartman wrote: I would suggest totally getting rid of everything KDE3 related before trying to go KDE4... I also had lots of problems and conflicts with both installed. Once I got rid of all traces of KDE3 and started fresh with KDE4, it

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 13 April 2009 19:02:06 Philip Webb wrote: I'm quite willing to try new things, but KDE 4.2.1 is definitely a beta. It's more than that. It's an experimental approach to a new way of thinking about desktops. KDE-4 is NOT a New! Improved! KDE-3.5.x. It's so different that still

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 4.2.1 : beta is as beta does

2009-04-13 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: The only app I am really disappointed with is Amarok 2. I really liked Amarok 1 and they started over for Amarok 2 and I dislike just about everything they've done to it. The tree-view collection list is