Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-15 Thread Dale
Mick wrote: > On Friday 15 Apr 2016 10:43:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: >> On 14/04/2016 21:39, Mick wrote: >>> I don't have NVidia or use the full plasma desktop environment on my >>> laptop (I use enlightenment instead with a Radeon card). However, I have >>> not added sddm to the video group and have

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-15 Thread Mick
On Friday 15 Apr 2016 10:43:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 14/04/2016 21:39, Mick wrote: > > I don't have NVidia or use the full plasma desktop environment on my > > laptop (I use enlightenment instead with a Radeon card). However, I have > > not added sddm to the video group and have not noticed

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-15 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/04/2016 21:39, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 14 Apr 2016 11:21:39 Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: >> 14.04.2016 10:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:33:10 AM Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: 14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: > Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Hi Dale, > I'm not

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Mick
On Thursday 14 Apr 2016 11:21:39 Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > 14.04.2016 10:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:33:10 AM Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > >> 14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: > >>> Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > >> Hi Dale, > >> > >>> I'm not sure on where you got the black

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/14/2016 09:02 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:14:05 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > >> I didn't have any problems with sddm, but that slow interface drove me >> nuts. I was using nouveau, and I read against running that with nvidia >> cards, so I installed the binary driver

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Gregory Woodbury
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 4:21 AM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > >> No idea here, logs? >> > > I didn't see anything relevant in Xorg.?.log (neither in messages) and > since there was no kdm which usually tracks all KDE messages I didn't know > where to look. Neither any new log

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:14:05 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > I didn't have any problems with sddm, but that slow interface drove me > nuts. I was using nouveau, and I read against running that with nvidia > cards, so I installed the binary driver and I went from a very slow > interface (i.e. 5-10

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/14/2016 12:33 AM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > > Sddm worked as expected, not to mention its veeery slow interface (for > that nvidia drivers can be blamed, but whatever). The black screen > appeared after logging in. > I didn't have any problems with sddm, but that slow interface drove me

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 14/04/2016 09:58, Dale wrote: J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:33:10 AM Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: 14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Hi Dale, I'm not sure on where you got the black screen. If it is when X started, did you switch to sddm or some other

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
14.04.2016 11:36, Dale wrote: Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: 14.04.2016 10:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: No idea here, logs? I didn't see anything relevant in Xorg.?.log (neither in messages) and since there was no kdm which usually tracks all KDE messages I didn't know where to look. Neither any new log

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Dale
Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > 14.04.2016 10:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: >> No idea here, logs? > > I didn't see anything relevant in Xorg.?.log (neither in messages) and > since there was no kdm which usually tracks all KDE messages I didn't > know where to look. Neither any new log files appeared. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 10:14:14 +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > cat /etc/passwd ;-) > > > > Or if you want to get clever and give just a list of usernames > > > > awk -F: '{print $1}' /etc/passwd > > This doesn't work when using LDAP authentication or similar: > > nas ~ # cat /etc/passwd | grep

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
14.04.2016 10:43, J. Roeleveld wrote: On Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:33:10 AM Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: 14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Hi Dale, I'm not sure on where you got the black screen. If it is when X started, did you switch to sddm or some other compatible

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 02:58:09 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> While at it, what is a command that lists all the users that are set up >> on a system? I tried a couple things but only found one that lists who >> is currently logged in. I would like them all listed. > cat

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, April 14, 2016 09:03:08 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 02:58:09 -0500, Dale wrote: > > While at it, what is a command that lists all the users that are set up > > on a system? I tried a couple things but only found one that lists who > > is currently logged in. I

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016 02:58:09 -0500, Dale wrote: > While at it, what is a command that lists all the users that are set up > on a system? I tried a couple things but only found one that lists who > is currently logged in. I would like them all listed. cat /etc/passwd ;-) Or if you want to get

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, April 14, 2016 02:58:09 AM Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:33:10 AM Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > >> 14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: > >>> Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > >> Hi Dale, > >> > >>> I'm not sure on where you got the black screen. If it is when X

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:33:10 AM Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: >> 14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: >>> Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: >> Hi Dale, >> >>> I'm not sure on where you got the black screen. If it is when X >>> started, did you switch to sddm or some other compatible

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, April 14, 2016 10:33:10 AM Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > 14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: > > Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > Hi Dale, > > > I'm not sure on where you got the black screen. If it is when X > > started, did you switch to sddm or some other compatible display > > manager? The old

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-14 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
14.04.2016 00:49, Dale wrote: Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: Hi guys, 12.04.2016 08:38, Dale wrote: Howdy, Well, I went and did it. So I went and did it, too. Thank gods I made a backup. After emerging plasma-meta which wasn't too easy because of dependency hell with eg networkmanager (Use-flag

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-13 Thread Dale
Howdy, Same topic sort of so going to try the same thread first. I've run up on something weird but I'm not real sure where to start looking. This is what I do and what I get in return. I have my desktop set to folder view which gives me icons on my desktop. When I click on a folder, it is

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-13 Thread Dale
Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > Hi guys, > > 12.04.2016 08:38, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> Well, I went and did it. > > So I went and did it, too. > Thank gods I made a backup. After emerging plasma-meta which wasn't > too easy because of dependency hell with eg networkmanager (Use-flag > on plasma-meta

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-13 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 09:55:48PM -0500, Dale wrote: > > If anyone is brave enough to file a bug, I can say that it doesn't focus > on the password here either. It selects the user but that's it. Since > it works on some themes and not others, makes one wonder if the theme > has something to

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-13 Thread Yuri K. Shatroff
Hi guys, 12.04.2016 08:38, Dale wrote: Howdy, Well, I went and did it. So I went and did it, too. Thank gods I made a backup. After emerging plasma-meta which wasn't too easy because of dependency hell with eg networkmanager (Use-flag on plasma-meta was off but it turned out that another

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:22:12 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > > If anyone is brave enough to file a bug, I can say that it doesn't > > focus on the password here either. It selects the user but that's > > it. Since it works on some themes and not others, makes one wonder > > if the theme has

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/12/16 19:55, Dale wrote: > If anyone is brave enough to file a bug, I can say that it doesn't focus > on the password here either. It selects the user but that's it. Since > it works on some themes and not others, makes one wonder if the theme > has something to do with it. > > Dale >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 01:21:37 PM Dale wrote: >> J. Roeleveld wrote: >>> On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 02:04:47 AM Dale wrote: <<< SNIP >>> Dale :-) :-) >>> Dale, >>> >>> Considering the amount of changes, did you reboot the system or at least

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Dale
Marc Joliet wrote: > > On Tuesday 12 April 2016 22:10:10 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > >I don't particularly like SDDM. I does not allow me to log in using > just the > > >keyboard, I always have to click into the password field after it > loaded up. > > >The field is neither active by default nor

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 14:00:37 -0700, Daniel Frey wrote: > > That's because kdm is dead. I found sddm a little flakey. On my > > laptop it works more or less as expected, but on my desktop, > > selecting reboot or power off from the desktop drops me back to sddm > > without rebooting. I'm nit sure

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Daniel Frey
On 04/12/16 11:53, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:37 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too. You just change the setting >> from kdm to sddm and it just works. It looks different but it works >> fine. That may have carried over some settings. It

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Marc Joliet
On Tuesday 12 April 2016 22:10:10 Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >I don't particularly like SDDM. I does not allow me to log in using just the >keyboard, I always have to click into the password field after it loaded up. >The field is neither active by default nor can I select it with Tab. Call it >a

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/04/2016 22:10, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 07:53:34PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:37 -0500, Dale wrote: 8< >>> Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too. You just change the setting >>> from kdm to sddm and it just works. It looks

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 07:53:34PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:37 -0500, Dale wrote: A while ago I set up a VM in which I can observe KDE 5 as it matures. Right now I find it not yet usable, mostly because many things are not yet ported and because of random crashes of

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:37 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too. You just change the setting >> from kdm to sddm and it just works. It looks different but it works >> fine. That may have carried over some settings. It selected the user >>

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 07:53:34 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:37 -0500, Dale wrote: > > Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too. You just change the setting > > from kdm to sddm and it just works. It looks different but it works > > fine. That may have carried over

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 01:21:37 PM Dale wrote: > J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 02:04:47 AM Dale wrote: > >> <<< SNIP >>> > >> > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-) :-) > > > > Dale, > > > > Considering the amount of changes, did you reboot the system or at least > > killed

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 13:21:37 -0500, Dale wrote: > Oh, I had to switch to sddm for this too. You just change the setting > from kdm to sddm and it just works. It looks different but it works > fine. That may have carried over some settings. It selected the user > and was ready for my password

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 02:04:47 AM Dale wrote: >> >> <<< SNIP >>> >> >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) > Dale, > > Considering the amount of changes, did you reboot the system or at least > killed everything running at least once? > > That should also help with the stability. >

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 02:04:47 AM Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 12/04/2016 07:38, Dale wrote: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> Well, I went and did it. On one hand, it's sort of nice. Seems to be > >> faster in a way. On the other hand, I want to wring its neck. I used to > >> have 10

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-12 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 12/04/2016 07:38, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> Well, I went and did it. On one hand, it's sort of nice. Seems to be >> faster in a way. On the other hand, I want to wring its neck. I used to >> have 10 virtual desktop thingys. I was organized like a OCD King here. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 12/04/2016 07:38, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > Well, I went and did it. On one hand, it's sort of nice. Seems to be > faster in a way. On the other hand, I want to wring its neck. I used to > have 10 virtual desktop thingys. I was organized like a OCD King here. > Well, that seems to have

[gentoo-user] KDE and the new plasma 5 thing

2016-04-11 Thread Dale
Howdy, Well, I went and did it. On one hand, it's sort of nice. Seems to be faster in a way. On the other hand, I want to wring its neck. I used to have 10 virtual desktop thingys. I was organized like a OCD King here. Well, that seems to have left the building. Google informed me that