Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 09:50:02PM +0100, pk wrote So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! I believe that 180 or 181 is the first version that requires /usr on / (or an initramfs or whatever). And that's why it's currently masked. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Hello! 2012/3/11 Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com: The next step was to remove /usr from /etc/fstab to prevent /usr from being mounted twice (the boot process does not like it). Mmmh. Could you try to use LABEL= in /etc/fstab (not /etc/fstab), and see if that way it gets mounted, and only once? The udev developers recommend using either UUID or LABEL; and LABEL it's easier (and prettier) to set. I actually did not remove it: /dev/mapper/vg-usr /usrext4noauto,noatime 1 2 I am afraid of what would happen if I remove noauto. As far as I recall the boot procedure aborted. The last obstacle is /etc/mtab. By the time /usr is mounted I believe / is mounted as read only, so mount cannot update /etc/mtab. The trivial solutions is to delete /etc/mtab and make it a symlink to /proc/mounts . In that case it is always up to date. I think the link is to /proc/self/mounts; /proc/mounts it's a link to it, actually. You are right. Cheers, -- Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net Google Talk / XMPP: jorg...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On 2012-03-11 03:36, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of udev =181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. Ok, I thank both you and Neil for this info. In hindsight I should have looked deeper before asking but now it's out there so other's wanting to know (on the gentoo-user list), knows... Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr. So what I did was to include the fstab-sys smodule in dracut: /etc/dracut.conf # Dracut modules to omit omit_dracutmodules+=usrmount # Dracut modules to add to the default add_dracutmodules+=fstab-sys Then I created /etc/fstab.sys with just the /usr partition /dev/disk/by-uuid/90d82b02-e6c2-4011-940e-783d12b0c4fe /usr ext4noatime 1 2 Dracut could only find the partition by using the uuid (use blkid to find it easily). The next step was to remove /usr from /etc/fstab to prevent /usr from being mounted twice (the boot process does not like it). The last obstacle is /etc/mtab. By the time /usr is mounted I believe / is mounted as read only, so mount cannot update /etc/mtab. The trivial solutions is to delete /etc/mtab and make it a symlink to /proc/mounts . In that case it is always up to date. Of course, YMMV. Be careful when changing things that can prevent your machine from booting and make sure you have a live CD at hand. Cheers, -- Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com http://www.jorgeml.net Google Talk / XMPP: jorg...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
2012/3/11 Jorge Martínez López jorg...@gmail.com: Hi! I had some struggle with a separate /usr on top of LVM and the dracut thing. I noticed that udev was complaining at boot that it could not find some scripts. The usmount dracut module did not work for me because it could not find /usr. So what I did was to include the fstab-sys smodule in dracut: /etc/dracut.conf # Dracut modules to omit omit_dracutmodules+=usrmount # Dracut modules to add to the default add_dracutmodules+=fstab-sys Then I created /etc/fstab.sys with just the /usr partition /dev/disk/by-uuid/90d82b02-e6c2-4011-940e-783d12b0c4fe /usr ext4 noatime 1 2 Dracut could only find the partition by using the uuid (use blkid to find it easily). The next step was to remove /usr from /etc/fstab to prevent /usr from being mounted twice (the boot process does not like it). Mmmh. Could you try to use LABEL= in /etc/fstab (not /etc/fstab), and see if that way it gets mounted, and only once? The udev developers recommend using either UUID or LABEL; and LABEL it's easier (and prettier) to set. The last obstacle is /etc/mtab. By the time /usr is mounted I believe / is mounted as read only, so mount cannot update /etc/mtab. The trivial solutions is to delete /etc/mtab and make it a symlink to /proc/mounts . In that case it is always up to date. I think the link is to /proc/self/mounts; /proc/mounts it's a link to it, actually. Of course, YMMV. Be careful when changing things that can prevent your machine from booting and make sure you have a live CD at hand. Good advice. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root itself and /boot of course. If you're already using an initramfs to mount /usr, you may as well put root on LVM too and let it mount that too. Alternatively, have a small /, a few hundred MB, and no separate /boot. -- Neil Bothwick without C people would code in Basi, Pasal and Obol signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root itself and /boot of course. If you're already using an initramfs to mount /usr, you may as well put root on LVM too and let it mount that too. Alternatively, have a small /, a few hundred MB, and no separate /boot. That could be a good idea. I got other issues right now. I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears that the stage3 tarball is in a state where not much can be upgraded. Every time I try to update something, I get a list of blocks, either packages or USE flags. I'm going to try to beat some sense into this a while longer then I'm going to bed, right after rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/* is started. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I'm going to try to beat some sense into this a while longer then I'm going to bed, right after rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/* is started. ;-) What's the point in using -v if you're not there to watch it? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Documentation: (n.) a novel sold with software, designed to entertain the operator during episodes of bugs or glitches. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears that the stage3 tarball is in a state where not much can be upgraded. Every time I try to update something, I get a list of blocks, either packages or USE flags. I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. -- Neil Bothwick Why marry a virgin? If she wasn't good enough for the rest of them, then she isn't good enough for you. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:45:53 -0600, Dale wrote: I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears that the stage3 tarball is in a state where not much can be upgraded. Every time I try to update something, I get a list of blocks, either packages or USE flags. I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. I even tried USE=-* emerge -e system and it just griped. I have also tried to upgrade one package at a time. Each one complains about some other package. I'll try again another time. I'm ready to hang portage right now. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. I even tried USE=-* emerge -e system and it just griped. I have also tried to upgrade one package at a time. Each one complains about some other package. USE=-* is horrible. Leave the USE flags as they were in the stage 3, rebuild as needed then switch back, probably piecemeal, to what you want. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 23: Sweet sorrow signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On 2012-03-10 03:48, Dale wrote: Howdy, Howdy! this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, As long as you don't use the udev version that requires access to /usr at boot time (or mdev) then you can keep using a non-init boot (I do), as long as /bin /sbin is on root... Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for /home /opt /usr /usr/local /tmp /var, all on LVM and /boot on a separate partition outside of LVM, and it works fine. Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, 2012-03-10 at 03:45 -0600, Dale wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 00:03:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root itself and /boot of course. If you're already using an initramfs to mount /usr, you may as well put root on LVM too and let it mount that too. Alternatively, have a small /, a few hundred MB, and no separate /boot. That could be a good idea. I got other issues right now. I decided to do a fresh install on the larger drive. I sort of like to brush up every once in a while. I got to the point where I want to do a emerge -e system then copy my world file over and finish it up. It appears that the stage3 tarball is in a state where not much can be upgraded. Every time I try to update something, I get a list of blocks, either packages or USE flags. I'm going to try to beat some sense into this a while longer then I'm going to bed, right after rm -rfv /mnt/gentoo/* is started. ;-) Dale :-) :-) ah LVM, dont you just love it ... just ran low on space on a /home partition across town. ok, reclaim some space from /var/data which at 1.4T has plenty to spare. Once Ive finished I noticed a small problem ... typed 1G instead of 1T when shrinking /var/data, and the 89Gb packet capture I had there is toast :( One of those Ah F... moments ... love backups. Billk
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:30:41 -0600, Dale wrote: I've seen that if you switch to ~arch and make wholesale USE flag changes. I think I avoided most of it by switching arch, doing emerge -e system or world and then changing USE flags. I even tried USE=-* emerge -e system and it just griped. I have also tried to upgrade one package at a time. Each one complains about some other package. USE=-* is horrible. Leave the USE flags as they were in the stage 3, rebuild as needed then switch back, probably piecemeal, to what you want. Yea, each thing has its negatives. It doesn't like the default USE line either tho.sighs I'm getting a BIGGER hammer. Right now, it won't even install gentoolkit. Weird. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for /home /opt /usr /usr/local /tmp /var, all on LVM and /boot on a separate partition outside of LVM, and it works fine. I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 014: Keyboard locked - Try anything you can think of. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
* Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120309 21:55]: Howdy, [..] [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs [0.880111] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [0.880439] type=2000 audit(1331081750.879:1): initialized [0.912626] fuse init (API version 7.17) [1.258561] ehci_hcd :00:12.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [1.270152] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [1.583458] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.22.0-ioctl (2011-10-19) initialised: dm-de...@redhat.com The following here certainly are [4.258421] init-early.sh used greatest stack depth: 3696 bytes left [4.503735] init.sh used greatest stack depth: 3576 bytes left And the following are confirmation root@fireball / # dmesg | grep dracut [3.018189] dracut: Checking reiserfs: /dev/sda3 [3.018531] dracut: issuing reiserfsck -a /dev/sda3 [3.033879] dracut: Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x803 of format 3.6 with standard journal [3.034463] dracut: Blocks (total/free): 4883760/2502678 by 4096 bytes [3.034781] dracut: Filesystem is clean [3.035210] dracut: Remounting /dev/sda3 with -o ro [3.082413] dracut: Mounted root filesystem /dev/sda3 [3.158322] dracut: Switching root root@fireball / # And grub looks like this: title=Initramfs-new_kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-3.2.2-1 root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init initrd /initramfs-3.2.2-1.img Does anyone think dracut is not working? I need to make certain before diving into the next step. Looks like it's all working for you then! Todd
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! That's one case; I would not take it for granted that it would work in any other case. The fact is, udev upstream does not support a separated /usr without an initramfs since . That Neil got it working may be a fluke, good luck, the phase of the moon, or all from above combined. If you plan to keep a separated /usr and refuse to use an initramfs, I would recommend sticking to the last version *you* know for sure it works, or risk getting a nasty surprise at some upgrade. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Todd Goodman wrote: * Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com [120309 21:55]: Howdy, [..] [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... It found your initramfs... [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed The followng look like they're from your Dracut initramfs [0.880111] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [0.880439] type=2000 audit(1331081750.879:1): initialized [0.912626] fuse init (API version 7.17) [1.258561] ehci_hcd :00:12.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [1.270152] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [1.583458] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.22.0-ioctl (2011-10-19) initialised: dm-de...@redhat.com The following here certainly are [4.258421] init-early.sh used greatest stack depth: 3696 bytes left [4.503735] init.sh used greatest stack depth: 3576 bytes left And the following are confirmation root@fireball / # dmesg | grep dracut [3.018189] dracut: Checking reiserfs: /dev/sda3 [3.018531] dracut: issuing reiserfsck -a /dev/sda3 [3.033879] dracut: Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x803 of format 3.6 with standard journal [3.034463] dracut: Blocks (total/free): 4883760/2502678 by 4096 bytes [3.034781] dracut: Filesystem is clean [3.035210] dracut: Remounting /dev/sda3 with -o ro [3.082413] dracut: Mounted root filesystem /dev/sda3 [3.158322] dracut: Switching root root@fireball / # And grub looks like this: title=Initramfs-new_kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-3.2.2-1 root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init initrd /initramfs-3.2.2-1.img Does anyone think dracut is not working? I need to make certain before diving into the next step. Looks like it's all working for you then! Todd Yeppie :-D :-D :-D I don't think I asked for help getting it to work either. o_O Oh, I did get the fresh install to start compiling. Just had to get a sledge hammer and threaten it a little bit. I didn't hurt the paint job tho. lol Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 21:50:02 +0100, pk wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! testing, not masked. Although it turns out that the latest in ~amd64 is the same as you are running on stable. 181 is masked and the comments in package.mask imply it is because of the separate /usr problem. -- Neil Bothwick No trees were harmed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 2:50 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote: On 2012-03-10 16:35, Neil Bothwick wrote: I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. So udev-181 (masked) is ok to use without initrd and separate /usr then? Thanks for the info! Just posted to -devel, the news item regarding the unmasking of udev-181: This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of udev =181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. An initramfs which does this is created by =sys-kernel/genkernel-3.4.25 or =sys-kernel/dracut-017-r1. If you do not want to use these tools, be sure any initramfs you create pre-mounts /usr. Also, if you are using OpenRC, you must upgrade to = openrc-0.9.9. For more information on why this has been done, see the following url: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken; The news item is being discussed, but something similar will be submitted as news item for every Gentoo user. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Mar 10, 2012 10:38 AM, Neil Bothwick lt;n...@digimed.co.ukgt; wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:58:18 +0100, pk wrote: gt; Btw, does anyone know which version of udev requires access to /usr? I'm gt; running latest stable here 171-r5 and I have separate partitions for gt; /home /opt /usr /usr/local /tmp /var, all on LVM and /boot on a separate gt; partition outside of LVM, and it works fine. I'm using the latest testing with a separate /usr and no problems. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 014: Keyboard locked - Try anything you can think of.
[gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Howdy, Well, this is what I am thinking about jumping into. Ya'll ready for this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, /home, and such on LVM. I been using that dracut thingy to build the init thingy. Sorry, I'm full of thingys tonight. Maybe I need my meds? Anyway, the init thingy seems to be working, I think. I asked a while back how to tell for sure but it didn't get any replies so I am not real sure it is. I do get this tho: root@fireball / # dmesg | grep init [0.00] Command line: root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init [0.00] initial memory mapped : 0 - 2000 [0.00] init_memory_mapping: -bfc91000 [0.00] init_memory_mapping: 0001-00044000 [0.00] Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init [0.00] Memory: 16387452k/17825792k available (6262k kernel code, 1052572k absent, 385768k reserved, 6647k data, 4852k init) [0.003045] Security Framework initialized [0.388120] SCSI subsystem initialized [0.410739] pnp: PnP ACPI init [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... [0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed [0.880111] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [0.880439] type=2000 audit(1331081750.879:1): initialized [0.912626] fuse init (API version 7.17) [1.258561] ehci_hcd :00:12.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [1.270152] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [1.583458] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.22.0-ioctl (2011-10-19) initialised: dm-de...@redhat.com [4.258421] init-early.sh used greatest stack depth: 3696 bytes left [4.503735] init.sh used greatest stack depth: 3576 bytes left root@fireball / # dmesg | grep dracut [3.018189] dracut: Checking reiserfs: /dev/sda3 [3.018531] dracut: issuing reiserfsck -a /dev/sda3 [3.033879] dracut: Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x803 of format 3.6 with standard journal [3.034463] dracut: Blocks (total/free): 4883760/2502678 by 4096 bytes [3.034781] dracut: Filesystem is clean [3.035210] dracut: Remounting /dev/sda3 with -o ro [3.082413] dracut: Mounted root filesystem /dev/sda3 [3.158322] dracut: Switching root root@fireball / # And grub looks like this: title=Initramfs-new_kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-3.2.2-1 root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init initrd /initramfs-3.2.2-1.img Does anyone think dracut is not working? I need to make certain before diving into the next step. I have a second drive that is plenty large enough. Thanks Kashani. I plan to move everything currently to the larger drive then just sort of do a fresh install on my regular OS drive. One question I have right off the bat, how do I tell dracut to mount /usr? I think it used to have a usr USE flag but that seems to have disappeared during a upgrade. Is it magic? Does it need to mount /var as well for logging? Just for the record, dracut is the only way I could get a init thingy to build and let me boot. I tried different ways and they just didn't work. At least I think dracut is working which is a good start. ;-) I hope there is a few dracut users on here that have at least /usr on a separate partition. Thanks. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 8:48 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy, Well, this is what I am thinking about jumping into. Ya'll ready for this? I'm thinking about redoing my partition layout. I'm wanting to keep / (root) on a normal ext4 file system. I want to put /usr, /var, /home, and such on LVM. I been using that dracut thingy to build the init thingy. Sorry, I'm full of thingys tonight. Maybe I need my meds? Anyway, the init thingy seems to be working, I think. I asked a while back how to tell for sure but it didn't get any replies so I am not real sure it is. I do get this tho: root@fireball / # dmesg | grep init [ 0.00] Command line: root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init [ 0.00] initial memory mapped : 0 - 2000 [ 0.00] init_memory_mapping: -bfc91000 [ 0.00] init_memory_mapping: 0001-00044000 [ 0.00] Kernel command line: root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init [ 0.00] Memory: 16387452k/17825792k available (6262k kernel code, 1052572k absent, 385768k reserved, 6647k data, 4852k init) [ 0.003045] Security Framework initialized [ 0.388120] SCSI subsystem initialized [ 0.410739] pnp: PnP ACPI init [ 0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... [ 0.867787] Freeing initrd memory: 5084k freed [ 0.880111] audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled) [ 0.880439] type=2000 audit(1331081750.879:1): initialized [ 0.912626] fuse init (API version 7.17) [ 1.258561] ehci_hcd :00:12.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [ 1.270152] ehci_hcd :00:13.2: init command 0010005 (park)=0 ithresh=1 period=512 RUN [ 1.583458] device-mapper: ioctl: 4.22.0-ioctl (2011-10-19) initialised: dm-de...@redhat.com [ 4.258421] init-early.sh used greatest stack depth: 3696 bytes left [ 4.503735] init.sh used greatest stack depth: 3576 bytes left root@fireball / # dmesg | grep dracut [ 3.018189] dracut: Checking reiserfs: /dev/sda3 [ 3.018531] dracut: issuing reiserfsck -a /dev/sda3 [ 3.033879] dracut: Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x803 of format 3.6 with standard journal [ 3.034463] dracut: Blocks (total/free): 4883760/2502678 by 4096 bytes [ 3.034781] dracut: Filesystem is clean [ 3.035210] dracut: Remounting /dev/sda3 with -o ro [ 3.082413] dracut: Mounted root filesystem /dev/sda3 [ 3.158322] dracut: Switching root root@fireball / # And grub looks like this: title=Initramfs-new_kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /boot/bzImage-3.2.2-1 root=/dev/sda3 init=/sbin/init initrd /initramfs-3.2.2-1.img Does anyone think dracut is not working? I need to make certain before diving into the next step. I have a second drive that is plenty large enough. Thanks Kashani. I plan to move everything currently to the larger drive then just sort of do a fresh install on my regular OS drive. One question I have right off the bat, how do I tell dracut to mount /usr? I think it used to have a usr USE flag but that seems to have disappeared during a upgrade. Is it magic? Does it need to mount /var as well for logging? Just for the record, dracut is the only way I could get a init thingy to build and let me boot. I tried different ways and they just didn't work. At least I think dracut is working which is a good start. ;-) I hope there is a few dracut users on here that have at least /usr on a separate partition. I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the magic happens at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in /etc/fstab, then dracut will mount it. It says nothing about LVM, but that is taken care of in the scripts at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/90lvm I'm not familiar with LVM, but it seems simple enough. And you can create and modify your own dracut modules, of course. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the magic happens at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in /etc/fstab, then dracut will mount it. It says nothing about LVM, but that is taken care of in the scripts at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/90lvm I'm not familiar with LVM, but it seems simple enough. And you can create and modify your own dracut modules, of course. Regards. I thought is was magic. lol I'm glad to get confirmation of this. Also, does it look to you like it is using the init thingy now? From what I see in dmesg it looks like it is working. Thanks for the reply. It's a start. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the magic happens at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in /etc/fstab, then dracut will mount it. It says nothing about LVM, but that is taken care of in the scripts at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/90lvm I'm not familiar with LVM, but it seems simple enough. And you can create and modify your own dracut modules, of course. Regards. I thought is was magic. lol I'm glad to get confirmation of this. Also, does it look to you like it is using the init thingy now? From: [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... I would say it's using an initramfs; if you only specify the dracut created one in grub or lilo, that should be the one. And from /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh:36, you should grep for the string Mounting /usr in your logs. It seems that the loglevel is info, so it should pop up by default. Finally, and it's none of my bussines, but reiserfs? Seriously? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM, /usr and really really bad thoughts.
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I keep my /usr partition in /, but seeing the modules from dracut, the magic happens at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh Basically, it seems that if /usr is specified in /etc/fstab, then dracut will mount it. It says nothing about LVM, but that is taken care of in the scripts at: /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/90lvm I'm not familiar with LVM, but it seems simple enough. And you can create and modify your own dracut modules, of course. Regards. I thought is was magic. lol I'm glad to get confirmation of this. Also, does it look to you like it is using the init thingy now? From: [0.787822] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs... I would say it's using an initramfs; if you only specify the dracut created one in grub or lilo, that should be the one. And from /usr/lib/dracut/modules.d/98usrmount/mount-usr.sh:36, you should grep for the string Mounting /usr in your logs. It seems that the loglevel is info, so it should pop up by default. Finally, and it's none of my bussines, but reiserfs? Seriously? Regards. Well, that is one of the things I want to change. I have several reasons for wanting to change this mess. One is a file system change and the other is to use LVM for stuff. I basically want LVM for everything but root itself and /boot of course. Right now, /usr is still on the root file system. I have portage on a separate partition tho. So far, reiserfs has not gave me any problems, not OS wise anyway. I did have a large drive that gave me issues but I'm not sure if it was the file system or not, tho it could very well have been. It now has ext4 tho. lol I'm going to beat some sense into this other drive and make a few partitions. I may not do this tonight but then again, I might. ;-) Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
