Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-12 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:15:14 -0700
schrieb Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com:

 Hi all,
 
 Not really Gentoo-related (well except the overheating part - lots of
 compiling ;-) )
 
 I have a very old laptop. It is an LG F1 laptop (circa 2005/2006 I
 believe) about nine years old. This has a Core2 1.6GHz chip and 4GB RAM,
 even though it only sees 3GB (that should tell you it's pretty old!)
 
 Anyway, I noticed during my last compile-fest on my laptop (reinstalled,
 switched to systemd for testing) that a corner of the laptop is getting
 really hot. We are talking a fair bit of heat here, you can't keep it on
 your lap when it warms up.
 
 So I took it apart yesterday, figuring I should re-do the thermal paste.
 During this process, I discovered it's the southbridge ICH chip that's
 overheating. There's no cooler at all on this chip (the northbridge and
 CPU have heat piping), it's a bare chip.
 
 Now, I suspect there's not much I can do about this given it being a
 laptop and I might have to resign myself to the fact that I'm going to
 have to buy a laptop later this year/early next year.
 
 I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
 something about it?
 
 I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
 particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
 I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.
 
 Dan

With a Fujitsu Lifebook A530 that I lent from the University I had the problem
that it can overheat and actually shut down.  However, I semi-recently
discovered thermald, which has (in its default configuration state)
successfully kept it from overheating.  It can still get hot where the CPU is
(sensors say around 80°C), but never enough to actually overheat and shut down,
and with long running emerges, it gets more proactive such that the laptop
starts cooling down by 10-20°.  Maybe this tool can help further (especially if
you configure it explicitly)?

HTH
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Marc Joliet
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-12 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/12/2015 12:32 AM, Marc Joliet wrote:
 With a Fujitsu Lifebook A530 that I lent from the University I had the problem
 that it can overheat and actually shut down.  However, I semi-recently
 discovered thermald, which has (in its default configuration state)
 successfully kept it from overheating.  It can still get hot where the CPU is
 (sensors say around 80°C), but never enough to actually overheat and shut 
 down,
 and with long running emerges, it gets more proactive such that the laptop
 starts cooling down by 10-20°.  Maybe this tool can help further (especially 
 if
 you configure it explicitly)?
 
 HTH
 

Thanks for the tip, I'll look into thermald as well. Anything to help
extend the life of this laptop a little further.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 08.06.2015 um 00:15 schrieb Daniel Frey:
 Hi all,

 Not really Gentoo-related (well except the overheating part - lots of
 compiling ;-) )

 I have a very old laptop. It is an LG F1 laptop (circa 2005/2006 I
 believe) about nine years old. This has a Core2 1.6GHz chip and 4GB RAM,
 even though it only sees 3GB (that should tell you it's pretty old!)

 Anyway, I noticed during my last compile-fest on my laptop (reinstalled,
 switched to systemd for testing) that a corner of the laptop is getting
 really hot. We are talking a fair bit of heat here, you can't keep it on
 your lap when it warms up.

 So I took it apart yesterday, figuring I should re-do the thermal paste.
 During this process, I discovered it's the southbridge ICH chip that's
 overheating. There's no cooler at all on this chip (the northbridge and
 CPU have heat piping), it's a bare chip.

 Now, I suspect there's not much I can do about this given it being a
 laptop and I might have to resign myself to the fact that I'm going to
 have to buy a laptop later this year/early next year.

 I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
 something about it?

 I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
 particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
 I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.

 Dan



are you sure it is overheating and not operating within spec?

A lot of laptops have 'hot spots'.



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/08/2015 03:47 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 
 are you sure it is overheating and not operating within spec?
 
 A lot of laptops have 'hot spots'.
 

I've had this laptop for a really long time, and it's getting hot where
I normally rest my right wrist while typing. I would have noticed this
shortly after I bought it way back when. When it heats up, I cannot rest
my wrist for more than a few seconds, that's not normal for this old beast.

I tend to use my laptop when it's updating and I've only noticed this
the last couple of times updating.

It may be different now that I've reapplied the thermal paste to the
northbridge  CPU. I've also picked up one of those cooling pads just in
case. I've set it up now to see if it makes any difference. I'll leave
the laptop running

Dan



[gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-07 Thread Daniel Frey
Hi all,

Not really Gentoo-related (well except the overheating part - lots of
compiling ;-) )

I have a very old laptop. It is an LG F1 laptop (circa 2005/2006 I
believe) about nine years old. This has a Core2 1.6GHz chip and 4GB RAM,
even though it only sees 3GB (that should tell you it's pretty old!)

Anyway, I noticed during my last compile-fest on my laptop (reinstalled,
switched to systemd for testing) that a corner of the laptop is getting
really hot. We are talking a fair bit of heat here, you can't keep it on
your lap when it warms up.

So I took it apart yesterday, figuring I should re-do the thermal paste.
During this process, I discovered it's the southbridge ICH chip that's
overheating. There's no cooler at all on this chip (the northbridge and
CPU have heat piping), it's a bare chip.

Now, I suspect there's not much I can do about this given it being a
laptop and I might have to resign myself to the fact that I'm going to
have to buy a laptop later this year/early next year.

I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
something about it?

I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.

Dan