Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha
On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:54 AM, »Q« boxc...@gmx.net wrote: On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:43:21 +0300 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:32:08 +0100 Marc Stürmer wrote: Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist? Since Eudev has always been opensource under the GPLv2, like udev too, there's no need to /offer/ it. If they choose to use it, they can use it, no offer/questions necessary. Simple. As far as I understand, Pandu meant we can recommend them to use, but not some offer in commercial or proprietary terms. Yup, that's what I meant. Sorry for the confusion; I'm not a native English speaker, so I may have used an improper verb there :-) They've added something called devuan-eudev to their github workspace today, https://github.com/devuan/devuan-eudev. It would be nice if there could be one eudev project with the aim of supporting Gentoo, Devuan, and whatever other distros want to use it. Or if there must be multiple eudevs, it would be nice if the different teams could communicate and maybe take some patches from each other. (I'm no dev, so take my opinions on what would be nice for development with a chunk of salt.) Actually, that's my point by saying offer: Rather than letting them build eudev from scratch, let's work together on the eudev we have, promote it to something distro-neutral, then let Gentoo and Devuan (and whatever other distros) derive from that 'upstream' Uh, I do make myself clear(er) here, don't I? Rgds, -- FdS Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • LOPSA Member #15248 • Blog : http://pandu.poluan.info/blog/ • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha
Am 01.12.2014 um 09:22 schrieb Pandu Poluan: Actually, that's my point by saying offer: Rather than letting them build eudev from scratch, let's work together on the eudev we have, promote it to something distro-neutral, then let Gentoo and Devuan (and whatever other distros) derive from that 'upstream' Eudev is an already established opensource project with a working infrastructure and development team. It's got a leader, it's got an IRC channel, an open git repository for development and even a home page. So if they want to work with the already established team, I am sure they are welcome to add their man power to it. The building blocks are all there in place, they just need to come over and start working together. Also I do think that veteran unix admins do know how OSS development does work and how not; so if they fork Eudev instead of working together I presume they have their reasons for it.
[gentoo-user] Re: Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha
On Sun, 30 Nov 2014 07:43:21 +0300 Andrew Savchenko birc...@gentoo.org wrote: On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 17:32:08 +0100 Marc Stürmer wrote: Am 29.11.2014 um 11:11 schrieb Pandu Poluan: What do you think, people? Shouldn't we offer them our eudev project to assist? Since Eudev has always been opensource under the GPLv2, like udev too, there's no need to /offer/ it. If they choose to use it, they can use it, no offer/questions necessary. Simple. As far as I understand, Pandu meant we can recommend them to use, but not some offer in commercial or proprietary terms. They've added something called devuan-eudev to their github workspace today, https://github.com/devuan/devuan-eudev. It would be nice if there could be one eudev project with the aim of supporting Gentoo, Devuan, and whatever other distros want to use it. Or if there must be multiple eudevs, it would be nice if the different teams could communicate and maybe take some patches from each other. (I'm no dev, so take my opinions on what would be nice for development with a chunk of salt.)
