Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update
On Friday, 23 August 2019 09:27:55 BST Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 23/08/2019 11:18, Mick wrote: > > Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and > > horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play > > anything and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s > > and sftp/fish, etc. Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so > > here comes dolphin > From what I remember, it isn't that Konqueror wasn't good enough, it's > that the person who developed it lost interest or didn't have the time > for it anymore. Yes, the world moves on and so do devs with their decisions. With the move from KDE3 to KDE4 some devs had the inspired decision to develop a new file manager, which would be a file manager only - Konqueror was like a Swiss army knife, a multitool in your Linux pocket. >From what they had written at the time I understand they came to an architectural decision for KDE4 to only keep one app for each task. It is reasonable to want to focus their horsepower on other KDE4 development needs and not diffuse their efforts on various applications just duplicating functionality. This decision also leads to simpler apps, simpler to maintain. > KDE isn't Apple or Microsoft. People work on whatever they want to work on. This was a conscious developer team decision, rather than some dev deciding to develop what gave them personal pleasure. Still, I'm missing Konqueror all the same. I now end up using more than one application to perform tasks where a multi-view Konqueror instance would suffice: - file manager - sftp client to remote server - webdav(s) client to remote server - audio CD rip/transcoder (it would present the audio content in multiple formats to drag and drop on your drive, ripping on demand) - PDF viewer - video player/viewer - archiver - gpg/smime file encryption/signing - internet browser - navigation (bookmarks/block devices/networks) Of course, Konqueror did not perform all these functions using some native code itself, but the GUI-fied seamlessness with which it hooked up to the requisite kio-slave to do what you asked without getting in the way, was what I really admired in it. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update
On 23/08/2019 11:18, Mick wrote: Konqueror was the best file manager ever, with multiple vertical and horizontal window split, with kio-slaves which would process or play anything and everything you threw at it, with browser integration, ftp/s and sftp/fish, etc. Nope, evidently konqueror wasn't good enough, so here comes dolphin From what I remember, it isn't that Konqueror wasn't good enough, it's that the person who developed it lost interest or didn't have the time for it anymore. KDE isn't Apple or Microsoft. People work on whatever they want to work on.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update
Mick wrote:
> On Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:57:14 BST Dale wrote:
>> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
I upgraded my system last night. I logged out and back in earlier and
have noticed something new. It seems to only allow one instance of
Dolphin to run at a time.
>>> When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on
>>> most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't
>>> have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.
>> That works. It gives me a new instance of it at least. I've looked
>> everywhere in the configure section and I've even found and looked at
>> the Dolphin handbook online and can't find a way to disable this.
>> Usually I click on the folder on my desktop to go where I want. I have
>> either the directory itself or links to those I go to frequently. Have
>> you seen a way to make it work the old way? Doing the keyboard shortcut
>> is a workaround for the moment tho. Thanks much for that. I'd still
>> prefer to have it the old way tho.
>>
>> Thanks so much again. At least I have a workaround for the time being.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-) :-)
> I must be pressing the keyboard buttons the wrong way, it does not work here
> on plasma-5.15.5 & dolphin-19.04.3 :-/
>
Yours are older so that may not be added yet.
root@fireball / # equery list -p plasma
* Searching for plasma ...
[IP-] [ ] kde-frameworks/plasma-5.60.0:5/5.60
[-P-] [ ] kde-frameworks/plasma-5.61.0:5/5.61
root@fireball / # equery list -p kde-apps/dolphin
* Searching for dolphin in kde-apps ...
[-P-] [ ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.04.3:5
[IP-] [ ] kde-apps/dolphin-19.08.0:5
root@fireball / #
When you get to the latest Dolphin, maybe then it will work.
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update
On Sunday, 18 August 2019 22:57:14 BST Dale wrote:
> Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> > On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
> >> I upgraded my system last night. I logged out and back in earlier and
> >> have noticed something new. It seems to only allow one instance of
> >> Dolphin to run at a time.
> >
> > When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on
> > most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't
> > have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.
>
> That works. It gives me a new instance of it at least. I've looked
> everywhere in the configure section and I've even found and looked at
> the Dolphin handbook online and can't find a way to disable this.
> Usually I click on the folder on my desktop to go where I want. I have
> either the directory itself or links to those I go to frequently. Have
> you seen a way to make it work the old way? Doing the keyboard shortcut
> is a workaround for the moment tho. Thanks much for that. I'd still
> prefer to have it the old way tho.
>
> Thanks so much again. At least I have a workaround for the time being.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
I must be pressing the keyboard buttons the wrong way, it does not work here
on plasma-5.15.5 & dolphin-19.04.3 :-/
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
>> I upgraded my system last night. I logged out and back in earlier and
>> have noticed something new. It seems to only allow one instance of
>> Dolphin to run at a time.
>
> When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on
> most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't
> have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.
>
>
>
That works. It gives me a new instance of it at least. I've looked
everywhere in the configure section and I've even found and looked at
the Dolphin handbook online and can't find a way to disable this.
Usually I click on the folder on my desktop to go where I want. I have
either the directory itself or links to those I go to frequently. Have
you seen a way to make it work the old way? Doing the keyboard shortcut
is a workaround for the moment tho. Thanks much for that. I'd still
prefer to have it the old way tho.
Thanks so much again. At least I have a workaround for the time being.
Dale
:-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: Dolphin only allowing a single instance after update
On 17/08/2019 05:56, Dale wrote:
I upgraded my system last night. I logged out and back in earlier and
have noticed something new. It seems to only allow one instance of
Dolphin to run at a time.
When you press Meta+E ("meta" being the key with the Windows logo on
most keyboard), you can start a new Dolphin instance. Dolphin doesn't
have to be already open for this to work. It's a global Plasma shortcut.
