[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-03-10, Michael wrote: > Perhaps I'm picking up on semantics, but shouldn't this sentence: > > "... The gap between the DOS disklabel and the first partition" > > read: > > "The gap between the MBR and the first partition"? Yes, thanks -- MBR is more accurate, I've changed that sentence.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-10 Thread Michael
On Friday, 8 March 2024 23:24:02 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > > For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux > > distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. > > > > [...] > > > > Is there an easier way to do this? > >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-03-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Grant Edwards wrote: > For many years, I've used a hard drive on which I have 8-10 Linux > distros installed -- each in a separate (single) partition. > > [...] > > Is there an easier way to do this? After some additional studying of UEFI and boot managers like rEFInd, I decided

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-27 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 27 February 2024 00:12:07 GMT Mark Knecht wrote: > I have no experience beyond three operating systems on a single machine > but if you grabbed just 2 or 3 USB flash drives then I would think you > could test it pretty easily. I believe the UEFI boot procedures are > storing a unique

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 4:45 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-02-26, Wol wrote: > > On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: > > > >> The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like > >> that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. > >> > > And then, if USB isn't the

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, Wol wrote: > On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like >> that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. >> > And then, if USB isn't the default boot media, he might as well sort out > UEFI boot, and multi-boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Wol
On 26/02/2024 20:51, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: I agree, using the custom.cfg file would not work if needing to boot different kernels of the same OS and those kernels were being updated. The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like that and just

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > I agree, using the custom.cfg file would not work if needing to boot > different kernels of the same OS and those kernels were being updated. The simple answer is to quit wasting time trying to multi-boot like that and just buy a dozen USB flash drives. -- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread eric
On 2/26/24 11:01, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: On 2/26/24 04:57, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: You could also write a script that keeps all the distros up to date from within whichever one you're currently booted by mounting subvolumes to /mnt or wherever, chrooting in

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-26 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-26, eric wrote: > On 2/26/24 04:57, gentoo-u...@krasauskas.dev wrote: >> You could also write a script that keeps all the distros up to date >> from within whichever one you're currently booted by mounting >> subvolumes to /mnt or wherever, chrooting in and running the update. > > To

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > The only other idea I had was to install to a different > disk and then use something like Clonezilla to move it to the partition > you want it in on your system. > > While I suspect you were being sarcastic I do not think any solution > that involves a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 12:52 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards < grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different > >> distros on a single disk and

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards > wrote: >> >> The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different >> distros on a single disk and buy a pocketful of USB 3 thumb drives. >> > > Given performance does drop a bit and there can be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 11:59 AM Grant Edwards wrote: > > > The simple solution is to give up on multi-booting a dozen different > distros on a single disk and buy a pocketful of USB 3 thumb drives. > Given performance does drop a bit and there can be issues with allocating hardware, why not use

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Wols Lists wrote: > On 23/02/2024 00:28, Grant Edwards wrote: >> In my experience, 's bootloader does not boot other >> installations by calling other bootloaders. It does so by rummaging >> through all of the other partitions looking for kernel images, >> intird files, grub.cfg

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Wols Lists
On 23/02/2024 00:28, Grant Edwards wrote: In my experience, 's bootloader does not boot other installations by calling other bootloaders. It does so by rummaging through all of the other partitions looking for kernel images, intird files, grub.cfg files, etc. It then adds menu entries to the

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Michael wrote: > The problem starts if/when kernel images are overwritten by > successive Linux OS distros. This is likely when derivatives of the > same main distros e.g. Ubuntu all create a directory called > /EFI/ubuntu/ in the ESP and drop their kernels & initrd images in >

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-23, Wojciech Kuzyszyn wrote: > I guess most (all) of the distro's you are talking about use GRUB (or > at least they allow to do it). Yes, I belive that they are all now using Grub2. > If that's true, I'm pretty sure you can happily let them overwrite > the GRUB in MBR as many times

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-23 Thread Michael
On Friday, 23 February 2024 00:28:59 GMT Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > > On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any > >> better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files > >> in the ESP

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Wojciech Kuzyszyn
Hello! I guess most (all) of the distro's you are talking about use GRUB (or at least they allow to do it). If that's true, I'm pretty sure you can happily let them overwrite the GRUB in MBR as many times as they want, since it's the same (or just probably minor version differences) bootloader.

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: >> I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any >> better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files >> in the ESP partiton and multiple distro's using the same name in the >> boot slots

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Wol
On 22/02/2024 21:45, Grant Edwards wrote: I've been reading up on UEFI, and it doesn't seem to be any better. People complain about distro's stomping on each other's files in the ESP partiton and multiple distro's using the same name in the boot slots stored in NVM. And then the boot choice

[gentoo-user] Re: How to set up drive with many Linux distros?

2024-02-22 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2024-02-22, Wol wrote: > On 22/02/2024 19:17, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> However, the choice to install bootloaders in partitions instead of >> the MBR has been removed from most (all?) of the common installers. >> This forces me to jump through hoops when installing a new Linux >> distro: > >