Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 06 Jun 2014 00:15:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background though, ready to take over the world the next time you aren't looking :-) Ha! I can already

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Mick
On Friday 06 Jun 2014 12:18:09 Rich Freeman wrote: That would be udev. It has been around long before systemd, and you must have missed the huge flamewar when they renamed it to systemd-udevd. Maybe we'll see java renamed to java-by-oracle-with-ask-toolbar next. :) TBH I wouldn't be

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I am mostly happy with openrc and therefore have no reason to move to the systemd monoculture, unless gentoo falls in line with Debian et al. and leaves me no choice. I don't really see that happening anytime soon - it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision still works fine and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? For those tasks you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 12:03, Mick wrote: On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they want/need to continue using sleep and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 10:08:53 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 05/06/14 12:03, Mick wrote: On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 08:25:30 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 05/06/14 08:23, Mick wrote: Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate? For them to have support for sleep and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to systemd, if they want/need to continue using sleep and hibernate?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Thursday 05 Jun 2014 12:26:09 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 05/06/14 13:47, Tom Wijsman wrote: On Thu, 5 Jun 2014 06:23:38 +0100 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Are you saying that as things stand it is a matter of time before a gentoo user will have to switch from openrc to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 05 June 2014 13:58:45 Mick wrote: .., I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machine and it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background though, ready to take over the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Mick
On Friday 06 Jun 2014 00:15:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2014 13:58:45 Mick wrote: .., I've keyworded sys-power/upower-0.99.0 for now on one machine and it seems to work fine, without imposing systemd at the moment. :-) I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 03 June 2014 10:39:10 »Q« wrote: I figured out what I wanted to do (uninstall upower, install upower-pm-utils) by reading the changelogs, but I don't know what my other options were. Could I have stuck with upower, letting it pull in systemd, without messing up openrc? Apparently

[gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils. Anyone that feels like doing

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision still works fine and likely will for ages to come. That code has been bundled into a new package upower-pm-utils.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 04 Jun 2014 23:27:05 Samuli Suominen wrote: On 05/06/14 01:14, »Q« wrote: On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 22:06:07 +0200 Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The good news is that the version of upower prior to this decision still works fine and likely will for ages to come.

[gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-03 Thread »Q«
On Tue, 03 Jun 2014 18:14:56 +0300 Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: (I think I'll be forced to write up some minimal news item just to shut up the loud minority who can't be bothered to do anything themselfs, like even read package ChangeLogs if they stumble upon something manual.)